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 New 2014 Honda City, come show the excitement!

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KingKo
post Mar 8 2014, 02:47 AM

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no rear camera and gps?
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QUOTE(Jeff_lwh @ Mar 7 2014, 05:05 PM)
Received this from Alex Ng - Tenaga Setia Auto.  Enjoy!
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Good information, but no selling price yet??
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post Mar 10 2014, 06:29 PM

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post Mar 11 2014, 10:29 AM

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Hoping for competitive pricing range for this City. Features pretty basic but if the pricing matches it, should be good.
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post Mar 11 2014, 03:05 PM

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Seen like going to delay the announcement.. mad.gif
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post Mar 11 2014, 06:32 PM

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OMG, Rear Drum Brakes, just like Nissan.

Hope all you Honda Fans will NOT BUY this new City.

Nissan has taken all their loyal fans as fools, now its Honda turn.
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post Mar 11 2014, 06:55 PM

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What's wrong with drum brakes? The car that only produce 120hp for rear drum brake is more than enough and you get to save up on rear brake maintenance because is cheaper to maintain. You should worry about VSA/ESP. This feature is more important and it's a must to have for every car safely feature. The E and V spec come standard VSA. In addition 6 airbags for V SPEC. it's a good deal.

Almera vois doesn't even have this important safety features and not even altis 1.8e and 2.0g has it.


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why E version dun hv fog light??
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post Mar 12 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 11 2014, 06:32 PM)
OMG, Rear Drum Brakes, just like Nissan.

Hope all you Honda Fans will NOT BUY this new City.

Nissan has taken all their loyal fans as fools, now its Honda turn.
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Whats wrong with having rear disc brakes?

This is a NA 1.5L B segment car, not some turbocharged C segment car (which also weighs heavier)

Just because the Vios has it, so the Honda also must have?
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post Mar 12 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 11 2014, 06:32 PM)
OMG, Rear Drum Brakes, just like Nissan.

Hope all you Honda Fans will NOT BUY this new City.

Nissan has taken all their loyal fans as fools, now its Honda turn.
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Haha,I guess Toyota will be the next to "fool" people with Rear drum brake....

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post Mar 12 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 12 2014, 09:09 AM)
Whats wrong with having rear disc brakes?

This is a NA 1.5L B segment car, not some turbocharged C segment car (which also weighs heavier)

Just because the Vios has it, so the Honda also must have?
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It is like all the while since iDSI City and some minor hybrid models, all Honda cars fitted with rear disc.

So it is like, since they are going to fight that VIOS or BIOS or VIUS whatever, they already doing so much on the spec list with a good pricing, why let go of something like the rear disc?

And we all know that Toyota salesman having easy job already by how they con people to buy Vios (no need con la actually, people will buy without asking technical shit, janji Toyota), now suddenly Toyota salesman become so technical-savvy by telling people "you see, City fitted with drum even on highest spec, our Vios is rear disc".

Eh, no joke... My friend bought a Vios G instead of TRD (which he wanted), just because salesman say TRD suspension is too hard too racy for normal use (I am like @@).
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post Mar 12 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 11 2014, 06:32 PM)
OMG, Rear Drum Brakes, just like Nissan.

Hope all you Honda Fans will NOT BUY this new City.

Nissan has taken all their loyal fans as fools, now its Honda turn.
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90% of B-seg drivers don't drive hard enough to tell the difference between rear drums or rear discs anyway.

Most are after the looks of rear discs only because rear discs = race car.

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Mar 12 2014, 11:20 AM)
It is like all the while since iDSI City and some minor hybrid models, all Honda cars fitted with rear disc.

So it is like, since they are going to fight that VIOS or BIOS or VIUS whatever, they already doing so much on the spec list with a good pricing, why let go of something like the rear disc?

And we all know that Toyota salesman having easy job already by how they con people to buy Vios (no need con la actually, people will buy without asking technical shit, janji Toyota), now suddenly Toyota salesman become so technical-savvy by telling people "you see, City fitted with drum even on highest spec, our Vios is rear disc".

Eh, no joke... My friend bought a Vios G instead of TRD (which he wanted), just because salesman say TRD suspension is too hard too racy for normal use (I am like @@).
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True. marketing-wise it doesn't bode well for the City to have rear drums.

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post Mar 12 2014, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Mar 12 2014, 11:20 AM)
It is like all the while since iDSI City and some minor hybrid models, all Honda cars fitted with rear disc.

So it is like, since they are going to fight that VIOS or BIOS or VIUS whatever, they already doing so much on the spec list with a good pricing, why let go of something like the rear disc?

And we all know that Toyota salesman having easy job already by how they con people to buy Vios (no need con la actually, people will buy without asking technical shit, janji Toyota), now suddenly Toyota salesman become so technical-savvy by telling people "you see, City fitted with drum even on highest spec, our Vios is rear disc".

Eh, no joke... My friend bought a Vios G instead of TRD (which he wanted), just because salesman say TRD suspension is too hard too racy for normal use (I am like @@).
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Compared to the older model, does it offer 6 airbags? VSC? and all those stuff?

Honda has to cut some corners.

well, at least they're not using front solid disc brakes
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post Mar 12 2014, 09:10 PM

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I agree, marketing wise, the New Honda City is "inferior" compared to current 5th Gen City in Malaysia.

Friends and colleagues have been saying these:
* no paddle shift
* rear drum brakes

They are not car enthusiasts, but they do look at features and compare cars. They *all* say the current gen City is better.

Looks like the new 6th Gen City's nemesis is its own brother, the 5th Gen City.

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post Mar 12 2014, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Mar 12 2014, 09:10 PM)
I agree, marketing wise, the New Honda City is "inferior" compared to current 5th Gen City in Malaysia.

Friends and colleagues have been saying these:
* no paddle shift
* rear drum brakes

They are not car enthusiasts, but they do look at features and compare cars. They *all* say the current gen City is better.

Looks like the new 6th Gen City's nemesis is its own brother, the 5th Gen City.
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All the while paddle shift only on Honda AT equipped cars. CVT usually with tiptronic buttons although they work the same. But yes, it is missing nonetheless.

Drum brakes, as I have said, might be nothing wrong to the car. But the marketing part is failing. Hoohaa big to take down rivals, but score an own goal.
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post Mar 13 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Mar 12 2014, 10:31 PM)
All the while paddle shift only on Honda AT equipped cars. CVT usually with tiptronic buttons although they work the same. But yes, it is missing nonetheless.

Drum brakes, as I have said, might be nothing wrong to the car. But the marketing part is failing. Hoohaa big to take down rivals, but score an own goal.
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Honda Malaysia can't do anything since India and Thailand models have fitted all Citys with drum brakes no matter high or low spec mah. You expect HM to r&d and produce a rear axle able to fit in rear disks? sweat.gif I guess paddle shift is saved for facelift lah. Actually kind of useless in a CVT car but still, got "FEEL" bah. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 13 2014, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(kongbingleek @ Mar 13 2014, 09:55 PM)
Honda Malaysia can't do anything since India and Thailand models have fitted all Citys with drum brakes no matter high or low spec mah. You expect HM to r&d and produce a rear axle able to fit in rear disks?  sweat.gif I guess paddle shift is saved for facelift lah. Actually kind of useless in a CVT car but still, got "FEEL" bah. icon_idea.gif
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For car enthusiasts or those knowledgeable on cars like us, we know that rear disc is not necessary for a light 1.5L car like City. But to the majority of the car-buying public, they think no paddle shifters & rear drums are downgrade because the *previous gen City had it*.

Would I buy the new City if I'm looking for one? Yes for the 6-airbags + VSC variant. It is up to us to explain to our friends, families & colleagues that the safety features are more important than paddle shifters.
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post Mar 13 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Mar 13 2014, 11:05 PM)
For car enthusiasts or those knowledgeable on cars like us, we know that rear disc is not necessary for a light 1.5L car like City. But to the majority of the car-buying public, they think no paddle shifters & rear drums are downgrade because the *previous gen City had it*.

Would I buy the new City if I'm looking for one? Yes for the 6-airbags + VSC variant. It is up to us to explain to our friends, families & colleagues that the safety features are more important than paddle shifters.
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Yes, but you know the biggest let down IMHO, is that Honda make the suspension softer than before. It is like losing out the core philosophy a bit. In order to sell cars, it is like finally even Honda give up their philosophy.

And drum brake wise, like I say may be sufficient, but it is bad for marketing wise, and making the ever greedy UMW Toyota job too easy.
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post Mar 13 2014, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Mar 13 2014, 11:13 PM)
Yes, but you know the biggest let down IMHO, is that Honda make the suspension softer than before. It is like losing out the core philosophy a bit. In order to sell cars, it is like finally even Honda give up their philosophy.

And drum brake wise, like I say may be sufficient, but it is bad for marketing wise, and making the ever greedy UMW Toyota job too easy.
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Are you sure about the suspension? That's like, a Honda is not a Honda anymore!

Honda should be
* free revving, sweet sounding engines
* good handling

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Mar 13 2014, 11:16 PM)
Are you sure about the suspension? That's like, a Honda is not a Honda anymore!

Honda should be
* free revving, sweet sounding engines
* good handling
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Various test drive review (Paultan, Live Life Drive) mentioned the same thing. It is biased to comfort suspension setup. While it is still better than Vios and Almera like, it is definitely "not so Honda" IMHO.
They say people complained about the current City slightly harsh setup, but I think this is what Honda should have, it is like the identity itself.

My sister drove current City and I am very well know of how the handling is despite not top notch, lesser than Fiesta but better than Polo Sedan itself to me. Now the review is saying it is not any better than Polo Sedan.

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