Dear all daddy & mummy,

For those who successfully get a baby with ivf please advice.
My wife had ET with 3 embryo 13 days ago. we ask to come back for luteal support every 4 days cost RM320/visit which include

1. Cyclogest pessary: one pessary (400mg), twice daily
2. Crinone vaginal gel: one gel (90mg) daily
3. Utrogestan vaginal capsule: two capsules (100mg), three times daily
4. Pregnyl injection: 5000 iu every four days
5. Proluton injection: one ampous (250mg) every four days

2nd visit with urine & blood test and result is positive
3rd visit also same with positive result.Today we been told to come back every 4 days for the next 12 weeks. Mean RM320 x 21 = RM 6,720

Do we really need this kind of treatment?? after spending about RM16K for the IVF and some more need to go hospital every 4days... This was too tiring and expensive..

Please advice  

i'm with Metro IVF Dr.Tee. For those for gone tru IVF did you really have this luteal support? Before we sign up the IVF consultant told us after ET we have to come back 3 times for the luteal support but now they  told us need to come back for another 12 weeks?! I was like      maybe because of the roller coaster emotion and tiring to come back every  4 days..

Hi Scubamy

I'm also one of Dr Tee patients,that's a lot of support med you got there.
I was only prescribed utrogestan pessary 100mgx3 and progynovax2 daily & proluton injections every 4days but still cost me Rm320 each visits.
He will gradually stop the meds during the first trimester.The oral and pessary will stop at 9 weeks and injections may continue until you complete first trimester.mine was completely stopped at 11weeks...
I guess your ultimate goal is to have a baby so a lil sacrifice during these 3mths is bearable right?Better be safe than sorry.

Cheers and good luck.

got a close friend to my wife who did this not long ago. if i'm not mistaken they did it Penang coz the cost is cheaper compared to KL. it cost them around 12k-18k if im not mistaken.

the baby is now 8 months old and healthier than ever. will ask them bout the info and will share it here to you guys

Hi, I'm considering to do IVF since I have been TTC for 5yrs and I'm now 35yrs old with ovarian endometriosis and blocked left fallopian tube. However, I'm concerned of a bb's health conceived via IVF. Heard that cleft is a common defect in IVF bbs. Is that true? Read plenty of forums on IVF but none mentioned on risks / birth defects associated with IVF, apart from the emotional roller coasters.

Any advice anyone? Thanks!

Hi, I'm considering to do IVF since I have been TTC for 5yrs and I'm now 35yrs old with ovarian endometriosis and blocked left fallopian tube. However, I'm concerned of a bb's health conceived via IVF. Heard that cleft is a common defect in IVF bbs. Is that true? Read plenty of forums on IVF but none mentioned on risks / birth defects associated with IVF, apart from the emotional roller coasters.

Any advice anyone? Thanks!

I know how u feel, my wife went thru it b4. she was so hurt deep inside but never tell anyone about her feeling including me. Just take care...

Anyway, my wife is going to deliver next week    How?

You might not believe it or people will say bullshit but somehow it works for me and my wife.

A friend of friend told to eat Durian..musang king. Eat for 1 week then can start to get intimate during the ovulation time.

Yes conceived naturally...we did try iui and ivf, none of them successful.

Is it true frozen embryo transfer success rate higher than fresh embryo? > Not sure about this, last time doctor told us is grade B for embryo. No success also..

It is the same problem here as well, fresh ET failed twice with us.
For now, go get some rest as you need to clear your body of all the hormonal injections that you taken, go for some holiday and relax. Nourish your body and ensure that your menstrual cycle has return back to normal before you continue the frozen ET cycle.
Our Frozen ET cycle would take place end of this month (after more than 3 months hiatus, doing Chinese traditional medicine + treatment in the mean time), i'll update if there are any further news

Our first IVF cycle only had 4 viable fertilized embryos, 3 of them were used in the first ET (unsuccessful), leaving only one embryo frozen.
We then moved to KL Fertility under Dr Helena to perform our second IVF cycle, in which 7 viable fertilized  embryos were obtained, 2 have been used for the first ET after second IVF cycle (unsuccessful), leaving 5 frozen. Subsequently we had the remaining one frozen from the first IVF cycle transferred over to KL Fertility, making a total of 6 frozen embryos.
We will slowly consume the remaining embryos in our FET cycle, in theory, we should have 3 more FET rounds to complete (if things go well). I guess we all have done our best for now, we can now only leave it to the powers beyond our control to determine the success of those remaining cycles.
All the best to your IVF as well... cheers!

Hi,

Am lying down next to my baby girl and suddenly have the urge to check out this forum. I used to read this forum when I was ttc and sourcing for advice to go for ivf treatmemnt. I have learned one thing is that whatever we do must listen to our heart and take things at a time and relax. Yes.. It might be easy said then done. But hey I went thru the whole process hence thought of sharing my experience here.
I decided to go for ivf after 3 years of ttc and realized that ttc naturally has became very stressful for both hunky and I. So decided to seek for help. There r so many doc in town serious and mixed reviews too.. So, I just listen to my heart and I actually wrote an email to dr Wong from sunfert. Never thought he would reply but I got his reply middle of the night. That's when I told myself I will go with him. Met him and did the test etc... Problem is on my hub..and I am fully ok. So doc actually asked to try iui if we want to but of course he did explained that chances of doing ivf, icsi will be far more successful. Again... I listen to my heard and told hubby I will go for ivf.

The process was tough with all the japs around. But always remember to relax... I didn't even tell people in workplace that what I was going thru... Only family knew. Hence I was taking it quite easy and i have all the support from my family too...took 2 weeks leave relaxing at home.

I was successfully with twins!! One baby girl and one baby boy!! Both hub n me were thrilled as it was one first attempt!!! I never felt so lucky and was really over the moon... Really thank god for such great gift!!

So I guess what I wanted to share here is don't give up or don't think negatively.. Positive and must be strong to take the challenge that god is testing us.. ,ost importantly listen to what your heart tells u. Which doc u r more comfortable with.. When u r ready to go thru this... Etc. it will really helps.

Hope everyone here who is planning to try or on the journey of ivf will be successful like mine!! Spread my love to everyone as whatever miserable period u r going thru soon will be replaced by bundle of joys and happiness!

I had 3 failed cycle of IVF.
1st IVF mc at week 6
2nd and 3rd ivf, embryo does not stick. None egg make it to day 5
Is really a stressful experience for me

Hi King King,

Glad to hear that you and wifey has decided to start with Alpha. I and hubby planning to engage with Alpha too, since we had our 6/10 eggs remaining frozen in KLFC (sigh.....long story guys). We are engaging Dr.Leong too after getting feedback and recommendation from an agent. As we are now dealing with frozen eggs and NOT fresh eggs. I am yet to meet him, but hey thanks for your word...it really adds on to my confidence. My appointment is on the 7 July 2015. I heard he has a looooooo que waiting to see him. Its ok, am already immune to waiting hours and hours in KLFC.

Just to give some answers for your questions:
1. I turned 37 this month and my hubby is 45 when we tried our 1st IVF/ICSI in KLFC. We actually started in March 2015.
2. Talking about KLFC, the whole treatment cost us around RM17k ++++ extra jabs, blood test for me and hubby, semen test, semen freezing, TESA procedure around RM5k since he had an extreme low sperm count (which we are still in doubt) egg thawing fee, egg freezing fee
3. Emotional roller coaster....hahahhha....talking about it. My hubby works overseas so i had to go through it by myself with my parents help. He joined me towards my 2nd last day of my jabs. I knew its not going to easy for me, as i am afraid of needles. I will scream out of my life looking at a needle nearing me. I was too nervous and scared for couple of days. But as the days goes by i am feeling numb about it. My only problem was to get myself driven to the clinics to get those injections as i said, i cant jab it by myself. So all my injections was done by a doctor at nearby clinic. I think this is a better way, coz less anxiety is passed on to the process of jabbing if we have to do it ourselves. The doctor does it professionally anyway. Each time it cost me RM15/jab. So 2 jabs is RM30. Towards the end of the injections, i was feeling crankly, hot, so numb, stiff.....Thank god my family was there for me.
4. We both had our both families concern, as you can see we are getting tooooooo old hahahahah. What choice do we have?? Honeymoon many times also no result. Hubby has poor sperm...still has no choice. Our families understand our needs. Even if without their consent, i think its important that any fertility issues resolution should be made by the couples and not by family members. Its your life, not theirs.
5. Last question sounds tricky......hmmmm....let me try. We were asked to stop the IVF/ICSI programme in KLFC and shifting it now to Alpha for some reasons.

Hope this helps you....keep posting ya. Good Luck! God Bless!

Hi,

I am not sure about Dr. Helena's way of treatment and diagnosis, cause i was all the way under Dr.P with lots of hope and trust. Well, on my ER day on wards all my appointments was full of disappointments.

Following situations and considerations made us to move to other centres, mainly cause:
1. My hubby was not properly tested and diagnosed to confirm that his sperm is not suitable to fertilize my frozen eggs. Actually my hubby went thru TESA in KLFC with the hope to get some quality sperm but unfortunately he failed. So immediately decision to make within 10 mins either go for "donor" or "use up hubby's sample". We decided to fertilize 4/10 frozen eggs with watever the embryologist could find....results no good embryo was formed....so no ET was done on me.

2. We were not given sufficient counseling in terms of making us understand what was actually right and wrong about our blood test prior to us starting with the entire IVF program. If we were told earlier that my hubby's sperm was that bad, i don;t think so i will consider to commence the treatment in KLFC.

3. In the effort to save the remaining 6 frozen eggs, we decided to use a donor sperm....but the bad news is.....Dr.P doesn't do with donor sperm anymore, cause he doesn't have the license to do so. Then why in the first place ask us to consider for donor sperm?? Why didn't he test my hubby completely and advice us that IVF will be successful with a donor sperm as a standby?? This made me to walk into sooo many hospitals name it...Metro Klang, TMC Puchong, TMC Kota Damansara, PrinceCourt KL, Alpha FC....just to get a clear understanding of my current situation. what went wrong?? It all boils down to know there is such a huge difference the way other hospitals counsel us compare with KLFC.

4. Thinking about donor, its not an easy thing to find a donor, suitable donor, affordable donor, quality sperm from donor....i was going nuts pass 2 - 3 months looking for a donor. We some how manage to get a donor and wanted to continue with KLFC but was told NO...cause no license to do with a donor?? What the hell!!! So how?? What shall we do next??

5. All the other hospitals listed above, were afraid to give us the assurance that 100% fertilization may take place with frozen eggs as their main reason was:

a. its frozen eggs thus quality will drop over the time
b. due to the stress of transfer from KLFC to their location, quality may drop
c. upon thawing no guarantee the eggs may survive

Oh god! give me a break please.....Dr.P is the only person on the earth that guarantees my frozen eggs quality is not compromised.... the rest centres NO..NO...NO...GUARANTEE. My frustration level has gone to the hike by now.

6. Last resort i consulted Dr.Leong and narrated my entire story...well...he too said the same thing...no assurance given...but i don't have a choice now, coz we are in need of a donor. Finally, agreed to stick with Alpha under Dr.Leong. My treatment is scheduled to start by end of July 2015, hope to gain more and all my lost hope....just for my hubby and future baby...

7. I guess GOD is watching over me and all my hard work in trying to save my eggs. Need more of his blessings....Moral of the story NEVER GIVE UP LADIES!

*P/S: I am not trying to discourage or demotivate any members in this forum. The decision to proceed depends on the level of trust, confidence and comfort of each individual with the consulting doctor. This is just my side of the story. No patients leave the clinic without paying consultation fees (the minimum a doctor earns per day per patients). So please take your time to raise any doubtful questions and leave the clinic with a satisfactory answer. Remember the more you speak the more doctors will listen. Never ever assume that doctors knows the best and we know the least.

Hi sister,

Sorry to hear about yours. Yes its true, at times these dr's just remain silent or speaks few words to reveal about the failure that happens. I think if we do not know the possible root cause that'z contributed to a failure, how are we suppose to find solution or correction for improvement. I belief as a patient who has undergone all the theory speaking treatment and practical experimentation of doctors on us...only we can do the inner corrections to our body. Perhaps doctor's medication helps but not to 100%. Many patients who has failed numerous IUI, IVF, ICSI has improved their success in following cycle by performing some kind of corrections.

Failure in cycles should not hinder us to seek improvement. As you said the rest we leave it to GOD and seek for his guidance.

Sister you may try taking some Chinese herbs that'z gud to strengthen your uterus and egg production. U can make it into a delicious soup and consume it daily except during your period.

Which centre are you planning to move next, if you don;t mind me asking.

Take care and GOD bless!

It is under Dr Helena. It is FET cycle, the fresh cycle didn't work out.
This is actually our third IVF cycle, first 2 (both fresh, one at another center, one at KLFC) failed to give any results. Only FET (with much needed 3 months of rest for the mother) was successful.

For the successful cycle, we thawed 3 embryos, 2 survived to day 5, with singleton pregnancy. The embryo that didn't survive to day 5 was from our first IVF round at a different center and was moved over to KLFC (after we decide not to continue there).

Our first 2 failed cycles are fresh transfers for both. We do have frozen embryos, one from the first IVF cycle, and 5 frozen from the the second IVF, total 6 in the bank. We took 3 embryos of the 6 to thaw for our successful cycle, 1 from our first IVF cycle, and 2 from KLFC IVF cycle, and waited till day 5 for the results. Only the 2 from KLFC survived, and one of them is our baby now (singleton). We still have 3 more frozen embryos still awaiting the day that they can be thawed.

Note that my wife had a break of 3 months between the failed cycle and the successful FET, in between she went for TCM consistently. She relaxed and quit her job, and mainly rest at home in preparation for the frozen cycle transfer. The reduction of stress helped immensely for our cycle, hence I would suggest that you reduce your stress and relax.

Hope this helps