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enriquelee
post Jan 21 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(my_nickleo @ Jan 20 2014, 01:44 PM)
Water mark already exist after I done my own ponding test, but developer refused to accept my defect complaints.  They insist the ponding test must be done by their worker, so I let them do it.  But they lied about refilling water prior joint inspection.  If there is nothing wrong with the test, why they have to lie about it?
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If water mark exist, even without ponding test the developer should repair it.
Anyhow, it is good to know that your developer have agreed to repair it for you.

QUOTE(MANSTIR @ Jan 20 2014, 06:11 PM)
5MM gone in 1 hour (its huge amount of water) then there's no sign of leakage, how we can be assure it will not effecting concreate in a long run?
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If really 5mm gone in 1 hour and no sign of leakage, probably the reason will be the floor trap is not properly sealed.
FYI, if after ponding test there is no sign of leakage then your bathroom not likely will have waterproofing problem as when you use your bathroom, you will not pond it.
And i don't think water can affect a proper cured concrete much.
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post Jan 21 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jan 21 2014, 09:05 AM)
If water mark exist, even without ponding test the developer should repair it.
Anyhow, it is good to know that your developer have agreed to repair it for you.
If really 5mm gone in 1 hour and no sign of leakage, probably the reason will be the floor trap is not properly sealed.
FYI, if after ponding test there is no sign of leakage then your bathroom not likely will have waterproofing problem as when you use your bathroom, you will not pond it.
And i don't think water can affect a proper cured concrete much.
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Developer was trying to avoid repair, to be specific, the sub-con that was doing defect rectification tries to avoid as much repair works they can.

This photos was submitted for defect claims, but was rejected by defect team...

Water mark at ceiling of downstair room:
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Water mark also can be seen at side wall of bathroom:
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post Jan 21 2014, 11:31 AM

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This is a clear water seepage that developer must repair.
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post Jan 21 2014, 11:41 AM

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Can kindly pm me or post the developer name here , this is a very IRRESPONSIBLE developer we all need to be wary.

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post Jan 21 2014, 12:00 PM

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post Jan 21 2014, 12:03 PM

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is there any ways to check leakage for condo units? i think not all owners, especially those investors would do leakage checking..

anyone who is living in condo, could you share your experience when you got your unit? many thanks
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QUOTE(Like a Bause @ Jan 21 2014, 12:03 PM)
is there any ways to check leakage for condo units? i think not all owners, especially those investors would do leakage checking..

anyone who is living in condo, could you share your experience when you got your unit? many thanks
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Just do a visual checking, look for water mark. Especially during heavy rain day.
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post Jan 22 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jan 21 2014, 11:31 AM)
This is a clear water seepage that developer must repair.
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For water seepage at bathroom side wall, what type of repair can be done, beside hack off tiles & redo water proofing?
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QUOTE(my_nickleo @ Jan 22 2014, 12:11 PM)
For water seepage at bathroom side wall, what type of repair can be done, beside hack off tiles & redo water proofing?
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As i know that shoild be the way.
Either from internal side or out side the wall.
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post Jan 22 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jan 22 2014, 02:18 PM)
As i know that shoild be the way.
Either from internal side or out side the wall.
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Developer repaint & redo ponding test, now my bathroom side wall looks like this:
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Very sad...... sad.gif

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post Jan 22 2014, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(my_nickleo @ Jan 22 2014, 03:29 PM)
Developer repaint & redo ponding test, now my bathroom side wall looks like this:
Very sad......  sad.gif
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Ask them to repair the wall surface and repaint it.
Then further monitor for water seepage.
And FYI, waterproofing contractor is giving out 10 warranty to the developer.
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post Jan 25 2014, 01:22 AM

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my_nickleo, u can submit the developer an inspection report with photo showing the defect clearly and then give them 2 week notice if no rectification done within another 2 week, u will bring the issue to Tribunal for Homebuyer under national housing board of development and concurrently u will engage ur own contractor to submit the quotation to developer for the rectification work. If the development no action taken then give them a notice that u will start the rectification work after and back charge to the Vendor's solicitor (which bank pay to the lawyer to hold the retention money for the warranty purpose).

I use this way to force my developer to rectify all my complaints. Any non compliance still can claim to the Vendor solicitor BUT make sure is not exceeded 8 months they hand over the key to u. Do read thru the S&P agreement then u will know where u stand on ur own right.

I strongly suggest u force the developer to hack the entire bathroom floor then redo waterproofing and retile the floor again. As this is the proper rectification method and it can last longer and avoid for future leak.

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How to do the water ponding test?
Use tape to seal up the floor water trap?
what kind of tape ?
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hi guys, sorry for reviving old topic. I am having issue for my condo water ponding test. I seal the drainage with masking tape and put on 3kg heavy object. Flood the area and i was there observe around 1 hour before i left.

Today i went to the unit again, the flood gone and i notice there are some water in the drainage. Does this mean there is water leaking or i didn't done the sealing well.

Was trying to contact my neighbour downstair to check the ceiling but they are not available
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 15 2018, 05:39 PM)
hi guys, sorry for reviving old topic. I am having issue for my condo water ponding test. I seal the drainage with masking tape and put on 3kg heavy object. Flood the area and i was there observe around 1 hour before i left.

Today i went to the unit again, the flood gone and i notice there are some water in the drainage. Does this mean there is water leaking or i didn't done the sealing well.

Was trying to contact my neighbour downstair to check the ceiling but they are not available
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masking tape is a very poor choice.
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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 15 2018, 08:48 PM)
masking tape is a very poor choice.
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first time doing, dont know what should i use sad.gif sad.gif

any recommendation?

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Use same diameter pipe and silicone the edges?
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post Jul 28 2019, 01:30 AM

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Is there a guideline for architect to follow when carry out ponding test before sign as acceptance? The ponding test is to do only at wet area (showering area), or both with the dry area (basin & wc area)?
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QUOTE(s30ckf @ Jul 28 2019, 01:30 AM)
Is there a guideline for architect to follow when carry out ponding test before sign as acceptance? The ponding test is to do only at wet area (showering area), or both with the dry area (basin & wc area)?
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A ponding test is done by sealing up all drainage exits in the area and flooding the entire area with 1-3 inches of water. The test may be carried out for a period of 24-72 hours depending on the situation.
Observations on the water level should be steady without any wetness on the outside wall and bottom floor (one floor below if more than one storey)

Should be both basin & wc area as long within the bathroom floor being wet area thus would be exposed to standing/ponding water by the user.


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post Jul 29 2019, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(s30ckf @ Jul 28 2019, 01:30 AM)
Is there a guideline for architect to follow when carry out ponding test before sign as acceptance? The ponding test is to do only at wet area (showering area), or both with the dry area (basin & wc area)?
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A ponding test is done by sealing up all drainage exits in the area and flooding the entire area with 1-3 inches of water. The test may be carried out for a period of 24-72 hours depending on the situation.
Observations on the water level should be steady without any wetness on the outside wall and bottom floor (one floor below if more than one storey)

Should be both basin & wc area as long within the bathroom floor being wet area thus would be exposed to standing/ponding water by the user.
Installed bathroom tiles and grouting compound must be waterproof.

You can also add in a layer of waterproofing membrane if required to the manufacturer's installation guidelines

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