aahahha yes i always support pioneer but their design not so cantik.
thankfully i see all the new players even lower end got quite nice display thingy.

as for brothers, i think i will buy stuff there but not install there. i went there yesterday to inquire about purchasing woofer n stuff. i duno whether the salesman knows wads he is talking about. dah lah some car audio things i duno how 2 explain in cantonese. they hav no english speaking workers. lol