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 Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2

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SUStikaram
post Jan 15 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Jan 15 2014, 10:45 AM)
First time buyer.
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Retire uncle and auntie with lots of fd wish to buy cheap too.
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post Jan 20 2014, 12:49 AM

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Everyone read post here for the past 2years know all poll go one direction.

One person can vote many times.
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post Jan 20 2014, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Jan 20 2014, 11:36 PM)
Buy near the lrt or mrt & u will not go wrong..
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but still many buying none mrt lrt ktm at 460k n thinking to make 750k upon vp.
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post Jan 20 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jan 20 2014, 04:03 PM)
What had this news do with properties bubble ?
Please post it to SP Setia project thread or start a new thread.
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A friends working inside sp setia said forecast sales drop for the first time in sp setia history after all the boom years.

properties bubble sight?

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post Jan 20 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(kradun @ Jan 21 2014, 12:53 AM)
I fully support retirement purpose product.

Retired uncle n auntie have huge fd in public bank.

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SUStikaram
post Jan 22 2014, 12:14 AM

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My observation.

My generation ppl like to drive.

but more n more young generation prefer using lrt n ktm.


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post Jan 25 2014, 12:06 PM

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I am vacation in one country.

the local english newspaper also put malaysia as property bubble rank together with hk. Sg. China vietnam etc.
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post Jan 28 2014, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jan 27 2014, 05:54 PM)
Ya I always spread false information, but I think I manage to fool you only  brows.gif
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Imo.yes u r always spread false info.

Majority of my friends dont believe agent like you.
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post Jan 29 2014, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(JC999 @ Jan 29 2014, 01:21 AM)
Boss 10k gross your take home pay is only 7.9K, u still have to pay taxes...
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Bnm is going to increase blr soon as too many investor ship out cash for the last 5 weeks n inflation at all time high.
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post Jan 30 2014, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Jan 30 2014, 06:35 PM)
Foreigner RPGT for the 1st 5 years = 30%. 6th year onwards = 5%. Foreigner can only sell to foreigner.
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Foreigner can only sell to foreigner rules start when?
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post Feb 1 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Feb 1 2014, 11:01 AM)
No festive feeling in this thread. CNY pun nak marah marah...

Regardless of what you guys say in this forum, it is business as usual in the reality world. Presumption: 89% of property buyers out there have not heard of "PropertyTalk @ Lowyat" (sarcastically, many do not know accetera owned hundreds of property threads here).
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But also. Many do know you too.

Sarcastically, what are you going to do to make yourself more famous?

You may copy that couple with" the halal bak kut teh n selamet berpuka puasa". Someting like that.

.when r you getting married? U r not young already.
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post Feb 2 2014, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Feb 2 2014, 01:53 PM)
Just listened to melody fm radio news regarding property in MAL. Foreseen second half of the yr demand will be better due to market need some time ( first half of yr) to absorb government policy. Foreseen house price won't drop due to average holding power of buyers still very strong in the market. Wat do you think?

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Tq
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Second half will see.

Negative.
Increase in unemployment
increase in interest rate
Weaker RM meaning ppl lost confidence on msia
More foreign fund ship out money from malaysia.
China market worsen
Neighbour Sg n Thailand economy worst.
More Units VP . More empty/ less attractive rental yield
More consumer money spend on petrol n food tnb n less money spen for investment
why 1st buyer buy overprice in market if govt Pr1ma is more resonable price n better entry price?
More auction units in the market for not so strong holding power.
weak prime minister only care about kankung price resulted political unstable like 'allah issues'
so many good vounrer klse counter very cheap..better goreng klse


Positive
Cost push construction cost. Eg all illegal bangla in jail
ppl absorb n use to govt new policy.
petrol subsidy will drop.tol wilk increase so price of property sure increase
i am DDD..... so i can only think more negative than positive on property investment in 2014 2nd half


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post Feb 2 2014, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Feb 2 2014, 03:12 PM)
More negative. So wat is the impact u predict ? Demand ? price ? Up ? Down or stagnant?
The radio news is demand slow, price won't drop coz average holding power still very strong.
So, will u let go property with cut margin or hold property till meet ur expectation price ?
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I am DDD ma. So 2nd half u know la.

As long as ppl still drive n eat banana... i will not cut margin.

if klse ytlpower pbb gamuda topgrove reit drop too much and many opportunity there. I will cut margin and shift my investment to klse


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post Feb 2 2014, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Feb 2 2014, 04:40 PM)
Shift to Klse hmm. Little bit diff with me. I won't shift to share so fast. In property will shift to land n will keep some cash for share. Coz i predict crisis will from USA share. Ringgit will further depreciation. Need to diversify.
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Klse have lots of opportunity during crisis....

many retire uncle n auntie sapu alot during crisis with cash.

capital gain tax free and liquid. smile.gif


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post Feb 2 2014, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Martinis @ Feb 2 2014, 07:58 PM)
When ringgit depreciates, we have imported inflation. With inflation comes higher cost of building which translates to higher property prices and hence if you own property now, you are hedged.
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why last time asia financial crisis. 1usd 3.8 rm

house price crash? No no higher property price? tongue.gif
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post Feb 4 2014, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Feb 4 2014, 07:48 PM)
i think Cherroy explained vr well, as well as how to classify doubtful loan.

I know accounting std as well, but i think better to be humble and learn for master.  rclxms.gif
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Pardon me.

cherry was wrong again

margin call is just a contract. It is not part of accounting stadard.

In accounting standard. It is fair value accounting rules come in.

wat is fair value accounting rules? It is rules that required bank to mark thier asset to market.

why?

Because. Investor like u and me one day decided to invest in cimb bank klse share. The cimb have the responsible to help me aka investors understand the value of the asset at specific time. Rather just historical price.

therefore. During property crisis. Large financial institution or bank that i do audit. Recognised significant losses. This is under doubtful debts.

no need become npl....bank need to follow fair value accounting. Therefore doubtful debts come in.
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post Feb 4 2014, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Feb 4 2014, 08:20 PM)
cherroy never mentioned margin call, its me smile.gif

what iceman mentioned earlier was totally wrong. thats all

read the entire conversation u will know what we were talking about.
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Accountant knew where cherry wrong. U r just a follower. Not your fault.Period.
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post Feb 4 2014, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Feb 4 2014, 08:27 PM)
i am accountant  blush.gif

from what u explained just now, i doubt that u are auditor...
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If u r so good.

why cant u point out margin call is not accounting rules?

why u asked question with accounts clerk knowledge? ...

oh your name is blowwater. No wonder! tongue.gif:p:p smile.gif smile.gifsmile.gif
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post Feb 4 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 4 2014, 10:09 PM)
Fair value accounting rules only applied when the bank is holding the asset.
A property collateral loan, the value is based on loan, not property in the bank book.
Banks do not own the property at this stage.

If a loan is seviced on time, aka the loan is paid on time, (which is non-npl) disregards the borrower property previously valued at 800k, now become 500k, the loan amount still 800k, and bank still register 800k in the balance sheet as asset.

Insufficient collateral (500K value vs 800K) loan is another issue to deal with, not related to balance sheet until the bank foreclose and holding the property directly whereby fair value accounting start to apply on the property value.

Fundamentally, if a loan is serviced on time, bank won't classify as NPL, disregard the property or collateral is unde! rwater or not, and bank will register the loan amount figure as asset in the balance sheet.
Only if the loan start become dubious aka cannot be serviced, then NPL issue start to incur, and NPL is one of fair value accounting issue, aka
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Omg!Your accounting fail. U r really 'lek enm cik'

pls google what is asset and what is bank toxic assets.
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post Feb 4 2014, 10:12 PM

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Astro .

Sifu from taiwan said year of horse is no good for property sector or anything related to property.

more property agent going to unemployed?


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