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 Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2

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post Feb 3 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Feb 3 2014, 09:35 AM)
Seriously, I also interested to know what type of property BBW will buy? What location(s)? what developer(s)? and what is the right price?  hmm.gif
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Istana banglasia. RM100k. laugh.gif
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post Feb 4 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Feb 4 2014, 07:54 PM)
I found this quite funny, I choose to name myself blowwater in forum, of cos i know la...and u use this to laugh at me ? i dont understand the logic lo...haha, cracking my head...
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post Feb 5 2014, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Feb 5 2014, 12:19 AM)
And dare to troll he do audit before, from the wavelength definately I am sure he got no accounting background but surface knowledge...

Cherroy mod already give few good senarios, this is forum we cant get everyone agree on the same thing, but try to learn the right thing wink.gif
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Oh tats normal fr her. Usually she knows ethg but all all half pail la. brows.gif

Let's forgive her icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 6 2014, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 6 2014, 06:56 AM)
Luckily accountants of banks in malaysia don't think and apply your accounting principal. Otherwise, the borrowers all kena top up frequently.

If you are the accountant of a bank, I think no people will take loan from your bank  tongue.gif

From "mark-to-market" to "bank a seliing debts to bank b", I won't surprise if you come up with something else later  doh.gif
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Tats y retired early kena goreng gua. tongue.gif

Gd to retire in young age. When bored can stay in lyn giv some nonsense advise ma. brows.gif

Let's back to prop market la. So far I dun see banks afraid of giving out loan but vely strict. Stil quite lotsa ppl successfully gotten loans. I assume it's a gd sign tat no hard landing wan. If market make a u turn then prop ll not even c a crash. Stagnant is the worst. My guess la. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 8 2014, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 8 2014, 12:14 AM)
Any of them as long it is not inflated...
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Appreciate with few example. Tq
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post Feb 8 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Feb 8 2014, 11:07 AM)
Same as property, if u target property drop 20% from now but does not happen n price correction only happen after 3 yrs. So, u oso will miss the boat or down grade ur target or oredy out of ur budget.
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Regarding if, IF drop 20% after 3 yrs, (assumption niacin, ok) it's worth waiting if price stay stagnant. Wat if price up again let's assume 5% per yr? Then drop 20% after 3 yrs means 4th yr la, how har? Still can use I TOLD U SO boh?
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post Feb 8 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Feb 8 2014, 02:00 PM)
LOL..... Boss, any drop sure got ppl come out say they expected that, I already say before and etc........ U still haven't give up making ppl understand ya.....  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
I sees such debate will go on regardless market conditions..... Jus different time different nickname group of ppl....  tongue.gif
Every new year ppl will say this yr is different from last yr or last few yrs.....  tongue.gif
Anyway, Happy New Year!  rclxm9.gif
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biggrin.gif Just dropby to remind ma. My comments r so min in tis thread now cos I'm enjoying fruit ma. icon_rolleyes.gif

Stime someone just need to know most prop investors r there for long run rg 10yrs 20yrs. Nothin wrong holding it collecting rental n not selling. I dun c myself bleed at all. When banks come to me, they r happily giving approval cos the rental income with no loan for most of my props r income. Not liability. icon_rolleyes.gif

So far onli sold 4 in the past 23 yrs. Am I a flipper??? Gua oso dunno. But seldom sell unless the price offered to me is way beyond my imagination, just like wat I did for the particular 4 units. tongue.gif
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post Feb 8 2014, 06:28 PM

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Approaching 40yrs like tis oso not bad. Not too big not too small. Ngam Ngam Ho. brows.gif


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post Feb 8 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Feb 8 2014, 07:59 PM)
U can never skip my comments. Hahahaha...very thick skin.
Anybody can give their names of these artist?
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1. Song Hye Kyo
2. Vivian Hsu
3. Ha Ji Won
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post Feb 8 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Feb 8 2014, 09:37 PM)
40s is it? Damn
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Approaching 40
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post Feb 9 2014, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:49 AM)
Bearbear, get a life. Your life is not only about property and the bubble.

Go out and enjoy. If you drink but don't have kaki, call me  cool2.gif
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Bear bear wanna repo more owners ma. But my guess is no matter how hard bear blow wateva water here, action speak louder. It's either buy or no buy. As simple as abc.
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post Feb 9 2014, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Feb 8 2014, 10:34 PM)
U r the real boss!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
However, those negative or ddd will says u are prop agent, UUU, BBB, u painting a rosy picture, misleading ppl, u r lucky, u invested when prop price is low or still affordable, now is not like before and etc etc......  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Boss I'm just a kicimiao. laugh.gif

Regardless of how ppl gonna hate the increment for the last 3 decades, those vested oledi enjoying liao. So y bother so much with their childish assumption??? tongue.gif

Another 3 decades later then maybe all of us here bring tongkat out together n c who got the last laugh lo. Y stuck in a cyber world like bbw and some of his old frens who keep changing nicks???

Btw how many ten yrs do v hav??? I hav done my part liao. Hope everyone gets to taste the success in prop. thumbup.gif

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post Feb 9 2014, 07:29 AM

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Time for a 15km jog. Wish to hav tika the jogger to enjoy the fresh air together. bruce.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 09:28 AM)
oi.. whatblow water.. u go do land search.. rm30 only.. u will know name and ic.. and address as well last address.. I shall upload my mother official land search for ref and action..
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It's ok bro bear. Dun publish pnc thingy here la. sweat.gif

Btw do u mind sharing ur age???

Stimes, other than personality, those around u oso ll determine which direction u r heading to.

Eg. If too many around u r giving u too much data every morning u might hav too much of thinking to do and miss some real deal in real life. If u know wat I'm trying to tell.

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Feb 9 2014, 10:00 AM)
let me kpc guess 1st.. being the middle manegemt bbw is ard 35 yo..  hmm.gif
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Below 30 for my guess.
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 11:49 AM)
Just a guy who reads a lot.. age below 40 guess lor.. u want me to pm you.. or not land search..
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It's ok bro. I hav a team of lawyer, secretary and agent to do tat for me. I dun wish to look at ur pnc. If I look at it n if athg happen to u tomolo then I might b liable to tat. tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 11:22 AM)
U guys... there are flaws to the above statement and u guys cant see.. see like this ppl gauge ur knowledge liao... still cant see
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So long le. Dun wanna read la. Dunno bout others but definitely not me to read tat. shakehead.gif
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 12:31 PM)
Ok lor... later susilawati..hehe.. that aside u guys earn so much di.. leaving this market like dis.. u desyroying the younger generation
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Boss I spent 21 yrs since buying 1st prop. U decide if u wanna call me lucky. Earn much onot depend on how much one wish to hav. I onli need a simple life. Buying props at young age is bcos I dun wanna face the problem of workers everyday when getting older like now. So I reckon my decision to start investing at the very young age paid off handsomely. biggrin.gif

I hav a vely gd biz stil running n generating vely reasonable margin. But facing 100 workers is not a easy for me. Maybe it is for others but definitely I find it quite hard. If they take turn to b jokers, I ll need a 3 mths to settle 1 cycle of probs. sweat.gif

Whereas props is so diff. I just leave it to my agents and lawyer. Agents to hunt for gd deals n bring in tenants with reasonable rate, make sure rentals r collected on time. Each of them ll take care of the tenants they brought in. And lawyer ll make sure tenants get the nails if they fail to pay me on time. It's not tat scary in props. If u do it the proper way, u r earning while in holiday. The props r generating while u r sleeping. laugh.gif

I dun hav to afraid of the props fall sick like how my workers did all the time. I dun hav to worry bout props gone Mia just like how I worry bout any of my workers go Mia after getting bonus. Props won't be caught by police or immigration officers just like how they disturb my legal foreign workers (boland ma so enforcers bojiao).

In work, I hav to make sure ethg runs smooth in order to get back the credit fr clients. In props, I dun need to beg for payment. Yes bad tenants r there, but leave it to agents and lawyer. They ll file in court to make sure I get the rental. And touch wood, I'm lucky tat my bad experiences r vely min. icon_rolleyes.gif

Hope u get a beta pic y some prefer props even I myself realized the biz is actually generating income quicker than rental increment. But one obvious diff is biz dun bring u appreciation. wink.gif

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post Feb 9 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Feb 9 2014, 12:55 PM)
rental income...last time can la...my old property i bought still giving good rental income...
but now for new property...the rental yield really really low...
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My key point(s) here is bout how soon one decide to invest. Regardless in prop, stock, commodity, UT, or etc etc.

The reason older props generating beta roi is bcos the market is moving forward Liao. Props prices adjusted so are the rentals. I blif the 4% roi today (gd to hav 5% / 6%) ll b 10% on cost price or more maybe after 10 or 15 yrs. no need to flip la. Keep til 1 day when the offer is too irresistible lo. drool.gif

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post Feb 9 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 9 2014, 04:53 PM)
U cant equate your era with now.. hello.. last time salary enough to play game property...

now a days because of flippers.. this game cannot play liao even though banks give out 70 % max loan and 35 years duration..

why u want young generation to follow suit.. last time u buy rental yields good coz entry price low maa... now entry price beyond reach (I m sure kv yeoh will say .. u know how.. ppl joint with auntie uncle play)... u are sending a wrong message into the market...

U look like developers talk talk till sky.. all the hell stuff diam diam.. youngster absorbing your secondary not more than a year di cannot service loan.. what d point..

sumore adding cost to inflated prop.. the agents mark up.. then also sapu 3% and thete you call the new price...all affected into so call selling price dat owner only let go at this price...

suan lahh... the graph of human population goes up.. property price dont.. that d rule..
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My nick is here to stay. Hope those missing nicks for the past few yrs ll come back again. icon_rolleyes.gif

Assuming u r darn rite. Not worth buying Liao. Dev die Liao. Those vp props kenot flip cos no one buy. No more new development even for BTS. How ar??? Will it b buyer market or rental market??? wink.gif

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