Guy just ask a question, i intend to apply Malaysian permanent residence soon, but
abit confused about something.

The immigration rule states that i must stay in Malaysia continuously for 5 yrs before i can
apply.

I am now soon approaching the 5th year, but i work in singapore but stay in Johore, so every day
i exit and enter malaysia for my work purposes.

I have a MACS stamp on my passport, renewed each year, with now just stamped the 5th year.

My question is does this count as a valid stay in Malaysia continuously for 5 yrs? Anyone
has experience in this area using the 5 year stamps of MACS from Johore checkpoint as a valid
stay of 5 yrs in Malaysia?

Thanks in advance

Rosli

dont stay in malaysia, it sucks

High inflation and pervasive discrimination even in application forms.

The application seems okay for me atleast only ask the normal stuff like name/age and etc
similar to other countries, so that seems okay

Inflation is singapore is far worse than what i pay in Johore, hence i stay Johore

But going back to the original question anyone used the MACS status on their passport as
a valid stay in malaysia for 5yrs?

Why do you say this may i ask if you do not mind

#1 politically unstable
#2 Racial profiling are on large, any non-bumiputras are institutional discriminated because of political agendas
#3 Country currency are getting weaker.
#4 Foreign workers are being treated differently according to origins (racism)
#5 Unhealthy competitive attitudes and lost of positive cultural attitudes due to failure of education
#6 Unhealthy religious conducts.

most may disagree with me, but im just telling you what i see and heard first hand.
the 1Malaysia ideal will not be materialise anytime soon as it is being viewed as a political distraction/propaganda.
and authority(Police/Rela) corruption are on large with the population largely uninformed plus misinformation of the propaganda machine.

Money can still be made tho but i would suggest elsewhere to build a future/family.

[edit]
From the mouth of a foreign friend of mine who have been staying here for almost a decade.
The malays are lazy
The chineses thinks they own everything
The indians lies and lies and lies again.

google it
there's source everywhere
even like the one where a plain-cloth Jakim Authority openly ask for bribe and thrown a racist remarks when they "caught" a chinese/malay couple.


This post has been edited by Pepper: Jan 12 2014, 03:35 AM

if you are bangala and voted before, then confirm can get 100%.

This post has been edited by metalslug: Jan 13 2014, 01:20 PM

If he voted before, that means he ALREADY got nationality. No need PR.

Anyway, it is a serious question. I too wonder if his stay counts as continous, because he exits everyday to go to Singapore.

This post has been edited by dkk: Jan 13 2014, 04:55 PM

Maybe he is from Singapore?

My cousin is married to a foreigner, the husband has been living and working in malaysia for 20 years, until now can't even get a PR, why? Because he is cainis.

Whereas I know a friend, just because his grandma is a malaysian, his uncle and auntie decided to migrate to singapore...but they have PR, why? Because they are...well all i can say is the they are the majority people.

Sorry to say, but our immigration ah...very bias.

just to add on, Johore is worst in criminal.

My friend is EIGHTY TWO ! She's been here since her twenties. Husband already died. Still red IC.

Unfortunately no.

immigration will check how frequent u leave this country and ask for valid reason.

Not meant to discourage you but some of my relatives have been staying here for a long time but still couldn't manage to get a PR. Finally they got so fed up and migrated to the US.
Now they're doing very well over there.

Better to settle down in Sg if you can cope with the high cost of living. Less nonsense there

I just read an article in the Star yesterday...about an indian boy whose mother is a filipino...he has a birth cert and passport but NRIIIIDDDD refuse to issue him IC card !!!!

Now the poor 15 year old boy cannot undertake his SPM, wonder what is he going to do for his future, can't work, can't own property.

I very geram at NRIIIIIDDDD when I hear this.

Always happen to the chinese and indians and no one else. It is as if they got something against us.

I got a malay friend whose relatives are singaporeans..just because their grandma is a malaysian...even though their parents have renounce their msian citizenship long ago and took up singaporean citizenship, immmigration gives them PR.

Come on be fair...

As if? I think the words "as if" does not belong in that sentence. They do.

Shhh...we all know the answer.

I've a aus friend, they love to stay in malaysia while we dislike.

idk, all i know id that one of the OZ folk who used to work here complaints how any non bumi are either marginalised or institutionally discriminated.
he quit the job after two years.

He worked in GLC, MNC, or local private company?

dont know

its not bout you applying or not. its like they will not grant you any PR.bro, most of the time it is rejected unless you have rm800k to invest in a house/condo. Even then its just basically a retirement visa. malaysia my second home. the application just for show. also you be ask to pay between 100k to 200k bribe. If you are working in upper mid level profesional. u stand better chance to be granted PR in singapore as long as your company gives a support/sponsorship letter. In msia its possible only if you are owner/director of a company worth few hundred million.

There ex-msian who applied for PR. they become british citinzenship 30 yrs. networth rm10 million. were rejected too. Immigresen ask rm300k bribe for approval

its not bout you applying or not. its like they will not grant you any PR.bro, most of the time it is rejected unless you have rm800k to invest in a house/condo. Even then its just basically a retirement visa. malaysia my second home. the application just for show. also you be ask to pay between 100k to 200k bribe. If you are working in upper mid level profesional. u stand better chance to be granted PR in singapore as long as your company gives a support/sponsorship letter. In msia its possible only if you are owner/director of a company worth few hundred million.

There ex-msian who applied for PR. they become british citinzenship 30 yrs ago. networth rm10 million. were rejected too. Immigresen ask rm300k bribe for approval

This post has been edited by Z1000: Jan 19 2014, 05:27 PM

u earn SG Dollar n spend in Malaysia all the price is divide by 2.5 off course u say like nothing

Correct, but i intend to settle in Malaysia, Singapore is no longer the same singapore
of them past, now it looks like the province of the phillipines/india/china.

Thats the thing i am puzzled about, because with a MACS you do not have to stamp your passport at all,
so how will they know that i even left?

Would going to work be a valid reason?

Not just cost of living, its like no matter where you go you see filipinos or indians from India or PRC
citizens, its gotten to a point of being unbearable.

Hence although i agree Malaysia is not perfect, but seems better than singapore for me atleast
right now

From my knowledge you need stay in Malaysia for 5 years above with either Working Visa, Spouse Visa or a successful applicant for Malaysia My Second Home individual.

I could be wrong, you can always call up Malaysia immigration for more details.

In case immigration does not provide a clear answer you might want to try Talent Corp as they have experts who help expats or those interested in residence passes. Their job is to reverse the brain drain so they may help you

usually they track you with your pasport number.

because they bring in their Aus currency and enjoy here like a king. u see the difference?

nope, they work in malaysia.

are you malay? or muslim? if yes, then go ahead and take my place.

same here in KL, it's more like these countries bangladesh, nepal, arab, africa, indonesia, myanmar nowadays. hardly can see any locals in some area.

http://devel.malaysiandigest.com/news/2600...y-illegals.html

Don't think of it like that. Look at it this way: it is like London!

That's true. A lot of pinoys and indian nationals. Rude punya some more. I dont have problem mixing with local chinese, malay and indians there but... lain2 susah

P.s soli I also considered a bangla in singapore haha..

Got what you meant, one more question.

My grandfather was in the Malaysian police until he retired, 60s, documents and pension statements are still with me.
He received pension from the Malaysian govt until year 1996 when he passed away

Does Malaysia allow or have visas for people that can prove hereditary lines in Malaysia, something
down the lines of India's PIO visa or Ireland visa for people that can prove ancestry in Malaysia?

pinoys and india indians have a big problems in singapore, because some of the local singaporean chinese
seem to hate them with a vengeance, saw once in Tampines (Singapore), local chinese shop owner refused
business from a pinoy ask him to get out of his shop.

Some india indians also have been beaten up by local chinese/indians in geylang area.

xenophobic i think??

Anyway, the country is good for earning money.. but for staying/retirement.. not so good.

Yeah safety is the best feature, but everywhere HDB view... macam playing SIM CITY..

[qu8ote=RosliCool,Jan 11 2014, 04:06 PM]
Guy just ask a question, i intend to apply Malaysian permanent residence soon, but
abit confused about something.

The immigration rule states that i must stay in Malaysia continuously for 5 yrs before i can
apply.

I am now soon approaching the 5th year, but i work in singapore but stay in Johore, so every day
i exit and enter malaysia for my work purposes.

I have a MACS stamp on my passport, renewed each year, with now just stamped the 5th year.

My question is does this count as a valid stay in Malaysia continuously for 5 yrs? Anyone
has experience in this area using the 5 year stamps of MACS from Johore checkpoint as a valid
stay of 5 yrs in Malaysia?

Thanks in advance

Rosli

[/quote]

Unfortunately not you are not eligible for Pr status in Malaysia unless you are married to a Malaysian and have a pas lawatan long term social pass for atleast 5 years there are few other categories aswell such as point system and expatriates but usually for those other categories European and American are easy to get pr status

Malaysia will be heaven for Malays from S'pore. But for other race (sans the Banglas, Myanmarese and other 4th world countries)... M'sia sucks.

Let's just put it this way, other than Malays (which is more like going back to their homeland) and 4th world country refugees...M'sia is a no-go-land. Heck , if we can afford to, i think many of us kaput from here long time ago liao.

I have been working in Malaysia fior the past 5 years. Where do I go to obtain and submit application for PR? I live in Subang jaya.

This post has been edited by Sam2222: Nov 5 2017, 04:33 PM

Jabatan Pendaftaran Negara?
U from where?

What do you think are the chances of an ex-Malaysian (Chinese) getting their M2H (Malaysian as a 2nd home) approved if they have quite substantial assets overseas? I was told it is quite impossible (being Chinese) but then i have heard of an American (ex-Malaysian Chinese) now living in Penang who got his approved as M2H - couldn't verify if true as i only spoke briefly to someone who knew a case like that. Is money all the Immigration Office needs? Are there any migration experts around here?

This post has been edited by Garysydney: Nov 6 2017, 11:19 AM

I don’t think MM2H is an issue - the majority of applicants are Chinese from China.

As long as you meet the requirements (sufficient monthly income, liquid assets and placing FD) then I don’t see any issue.

I met a colleague yesterday and she has lived and worked in Sydney (ex-Malaysian Chinese) for more than 30 years. She and hubby are about 60 with a daughter in her late 20s and has recently gone back to KL for 2 months and she said that Msia is a good place to retire as she can speak Malay and cost of living is less than half of Sydney. She has taken Aussie citizenship more than 20 years ago. She says she wants to apply for the MM2H visa and wonder if she stands a good chance. She has quite a lot of retirement funds and she also has a house worth about A$2.2mil (which she probably will not sell).

She is concerned that the Immigration Dept might hold a grudge against ex-Malaysian (esp if you are Chinese) or are they happy with anyone coming in as long as they have money?

You probably won't have a lot wanting to come back unless they still have strong family ties in Msia.

This post has been edited by Garysydney: Nov 7 2017, 04:34 AM

Age above 60 is easy. You won’t need to prove your income, and only need to place FD of 150K, it won’t be a problem.

I’ve met with MM2H agents before and they advised as long as financial requirements met and you don’t have any transmitable diseases it shouldn’t be a problem at all.

Although one of the benefits which is a tax free car has now been removed - but if you receive a pension from overseas ita not taxed in Malaysia

Thank you very much - no wonder she was mentioning something about a tax-free car or something you can bring back to Msia.

Yup a few months too late for that! But if comparing the living costs in Aus vs Malaysia I’m sure she won’t have a problem affording a car here.

She told me she bought a house in KL but i didn't ask where. She is an Australian citizen so i presume she must have bought it under a relative's name. She says life in KL is so cheap and there is so much choices when it comes to food. I was surprised when she told me that she may be going back to KL to retire as people with children usually won't want to go back. The fact that they have taken Aussie citizenship usually reflects the fact that they will not go back to Msia anymore to live.

As long as you buy a property over the minimum threshold (depends on state - currently 1million in KL I believe, has been increasing every few years) it’s no issue for foreigner to buy a property, even without any visa / permit to actually stay in Malaysia.

I totally forgotten about the RM1mil threshold - yes, she must have bought it under her own name otherwise she wouldn't be in KL for 2 mths. KL properties are very cheap for Sydneysiders as in Sydney, even studios that are more than 1 hour's drive from city (outside metropolitan area) is more than RM1mil. Melbourne is slightly cheaper than Sydney but not by much. Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Hobart is still quite affordable (about half Sydney prices) but hard to get jobs in those cities.

Your "foreign" friend sounds very malaysian to me

My take:

Malaysia is good place to live if your rich/well connected

Malaysia also is decent place if your poor, you cant really go anywhere else easily & still get decent enough benefits to survive. Look to educate kids so they can go somewhere better

Malaysia is not a good place atm for middle class. Cost to maintain lifestyle is consistently increasing and have better quality of life in same bracket in other countries

People deriving their income from overseas find living in Msia cheap. The reason for this is probably because of the weak ringgit. When i go back to KL on holidays 20 years ago, this was not very obvious. All my Msian friends who have migrated over to Aust donkey years ago love to go back to Msia nowadays because everything is so cheap!! I don't know much about those working in Spore (Msians) - i am sure they find the same thing too.

Yes, because by malaysian standards those ppl are already in the high income/rich bracket. Life in Malaysia for sure looks good as they can get better perks than their higher cost of living adopted countries

Its middle class malaysians who live & work in malaysia that are at biggest disadvantage atm