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post Jan 10 2014, 02:36 PM, updated 12y ago

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Last few post from previous thread.

QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 10 2014, 09:14 AM)
just wanna share with u guys

Algeria Navy just recently launched their new LPD..looking at the design, i wonder if TLDM can do the same..looks like Algeria have the know-how in building the LPD with below 10k tonne displacement (joint-ventured with Italian company)

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hope that Menhan do some joint-ventured project for LPD program
anyway, before this, Algerian Airforce did procured SU-30MKA that looks exactly like our SU-30MKM, even the western system..we copy from India (excluded the israeli tech), Algerian copied from us

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QUOTE(Strike @ Jan 10 2014, 10:32 AM)
#14 but limit age 27 lel

kalau civilian staff mcm mana? boleh ke?
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this is graduate officer intake
as long you have a degree that relevance you can apply,
but still have to go 6 month basic training and commission as Captain
if you have master you can go up to 35 years old and commission as Major while PHD as let col.
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 10 2014, 09:14 PM)
just wanna share with u guys

Algeria Navy just recently launched their new LPD..looking at the design, i wonder if TLDM can do the same..looks like Algeria have the know-how in building the LPD with below 10k tonne displacement (joint-ventured with Italian company)
I like the idea. Yang pertama dalam kelas dia. Gabungan LPD dan Dan Destroyer. Dia tak perlukan komponen besar untuk layered defense since the ship already got 25mm, 76/62 Super Rapid and Aster-15 as point defence. Cuma takde ASW capabilities je.
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jan 10 2014, 04:42 PM)
Kebetulan lalu saja.
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What type of gun is that?
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Opps terbabas pulak kat sini~
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What type of gun is that?
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Railway gun is a waste of resource....a squadron of Ju-87 could do more damages...beside these giant guns are deployed when air superiority is achieved
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jan 10 2014, 04:42 PM)
Kebetulan lalu saja.
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KAI delivery of the Indonesian Air Force T-50i Golden Eagle.

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Turkish MRAP in Malaysia

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Road test in Malaysia

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Expo image

More likely for PDRM to use in ESSCOM area and upgrade it's capability
Though most MRAP looks the same, this one looks badass
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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 10 2014, 09:36 PM)
KAI delivery of the Indonesian Air Force T-50i Golden Eagle.

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 10 2014, 09:51 PM)
Turkish MRAP in Malaysia

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Road test in Malaysia

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More likely for PDRM to use in ESSCOM area and upgrade it's capability
Though most MRAP looks the same, this one looks badass
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 10 2014, 09:51 PM)
Turkish MRAP in Malaysia

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Road test in Malaysia

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Expo image

More likely for PDRM to use in ESSCOM area and upgrade it's capability
Though most MRAP looks the same, this one looks badass
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Malaysia now seems to like Turkish vehicles. And its not bad looking
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Jan 10 2014, 10:36 PM)
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Malaysia now seems to like Turkish vehicles. And its not bad looking
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2013 Taiwan Aerospace and Defense Technology Exposition
By Jason M. Wong | 9 January 2014 Thursday

The only military trade show in Taiwan, the Taiwan Aerospace and Defense Technology Exposition was held from August 15 – 18, 2013 in Taipei, Taiwan. As the premier opportunity for the Taiwanese Ministry of Nation Defense to highlight equipment and capabilities, the show was hosted at the Taiwan World Trade Center, in the shadow of the Taipei 101 skyscraper. Although the show was a means to highlight and display of Taiwan’s military might, a number of international exhibitors were present to show off weapons currently in use with the Taiwanese military.

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http://sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2302

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Looks like SGPV will proceed with exocet and vl-mica system.. oh well cry.gif

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 12 2014, 12:58 AM)
Looks like SGPV will proceed with exocet and vl-mica system.. oh well  cry.gif

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Wait for the contract out first.
if the cost is on the right price I'm okay with it.
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ASW capability without torpedo ... depends solely to torpedo launch from heli?
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QUOTE(caksz @ Jan 12 2014, 04:15 AM)
ASW capability without torpedo ... depends solely to torpedo launch from heli?
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The torpedo system is there, but still classified of make and model
Reportedly will be the most potent torpedo in RMN inventory
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Be dazzled by aerobatics at Singapore Airshow
12 January 2014 Sunday | 8:36 AM

A record four aerial display teams are likely to take part in the biennial event

Expect heart-stopping aerobatics at next month's Singapore Airshow, which is set to boast a record four aerial display teams this year.

The Republic of Singapore Air Force's Black Knights will be joined by the Republic of Korea Air Force's Black Eagles and, for the first time, the Indonesian Air Force's (TNI-AU) Jupiter Aerobatic Team.

The Sunday Times also understands that stunt pilots from China's People's Liberation Army Air Force August 1st, or Bayi Aerobatics Team, are looking to make their Singapore debut at the biennial six-day event at Changi Exhibition Centre. The six-man team made its international debut at the Moscow Airshow last August, flying the J-10 aircraft.

If its participation is confirmed, this will be the biggest line-up of aerobatic display teams to take part in the 65-minute aerial display since the Singapore Airshow began in 2008.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/...irshow-20140112

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 12 2014, 12:58 AM)
Looks like SGPV will proceed with exocet and vl-mica system.. oh well  cry.gif

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kan ada tanda *not confirm. MICA je yang confirm.
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jan 12 2014, 11:40 AM)
kan ada tanda *not confirm. MICA je yang confirm.
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I dun really mind the SSM, I mind about the VL-Mica.. huhu.. sad.gif
It's a short-range SAM, though I know it's the best in it's class

Me prefer Aster or RIM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 05:38 AM)
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HUA!

QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 12 2014, 11:48 AM)
I dun really mind the SSM, I mind about the VL-Mica.. huhu..  sad.gif
It's a short-range SAM, though I know it's the best in it's class

Me prefer Aster or RIM
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remember Mica are used for defense rather then offence!
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TUDM buka muzium di Pangkalan Udara Gong Kedak

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BESUT: Pelbagai peralatan dan bahan sejarah Tentera Udara Di Raja Malaysia (TUDM) kini dipamerkan
di Muzium Pangkalan Udara Gong Kedak (PUGK) di sini, yang dibuka mulai semalam.

Muzium itu, yang pembukaannya dirasmikan Panglima Tentera Udara, Tan Sri Datuk Seri Rodzali Daud,
diilhamkan bekas pengerusi muzium, Leftenan Kolonel Azhar Mohamad.
Kini, ia dinaungi bekas Komandan PUGK, Brigadier Jeneral Mohd Asghar Khan Goriman Khan.


Komandan PUGK, Kolonel Zahani Zainal Abidin hari ini berkata, muzium itu ditempatkan di bahagian teknikal
PUGK dengan bangunan asalnya ialah bekas mahkamah tentera.

“Muzium itu terbahagi kepada tiga galeri yang merangkumi bahan sejarah PUGK dan TUDM, auditorium dan
bahan pameran Aerospace Technology System Corporation (ATSC) dan Hitech Padu,” katanya kepada pemberita.

"Selain itu, muzium ini juga mempamerkan pesawat pemintas F-5E yang suatu ketika dulu pernah menjadi
kebanggaan negara dan juga jet pejuang yang terpenting dalam mempertahankan kedaulatan ruang angkasa.

"Pakaian tentera udara sejak Perang Dunia kedua, peralatan teknikal dan persenjataan pesawat tempur
pelbagai peranan Sukhoi SU-30MKM buatan Russia dan peralatan khusus skuadron di Pangkalan Udara juga dipamerkan," katanya.

Zahani berkata, buat permulaan, muzium itu dibuka kepada pelajar sekolah. - BERNAMA


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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 12 2014, 11:48 AM)
I dun really mind the SSM, I mind about the VL-Mica.. huhu..  sad.gif
It's a short-range SAM, though I know it's the best in it's class

Me prefer Aster or RIM
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I heard the big problem is we only can afford mica vl.
the ship have alocate additional space for future upgrade to add in more vls.
perhap in future we can go for type26 for aaw role
Anyway the only complain I have is it lack of superior ciws though 57mm gun and mica can fit for the role.
I hope we can get millennium ciws and searams.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 12:26 PM)
HUA!
remember Mica are used for defense rather then offence!
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offense is the best defense.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

probably what was meant was its range, shorter than Aster-30 maybe..

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:18 PM)
I heard the big problem is we only can afford mica vl.
the ship have alocate additional space for future upgrade to add in more vls.
perhap in future we can go for type26 for aaw role
Anyway the only complain I have is it lack of superior ciws though 57mm gun and mica can fit for the role.
I hope we can get millennium ciws and searams.
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kenot kot, ada org nnt perleceh ciws is serious business yo.. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:18 PM)
I heard the big problem is we only can afford mica vl.
the ship have alocate additional space for future upgrade to add in more vls.
perhap in future we can go for type26 for aaw role
Anyway the only complain I have is it lack of superior ciws though 57mm gun and mica can fit for the role.
I hope we can get millennium ciws and searams.
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Nice to hear that
At least I wish the navy should moves toward acquiring or equipping to long-range SAM

Or even cruise missile like NSM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 12 2014, 01:25 PM)
offense is the best defense.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

probably what was meant was its range, shorter than Aster-30 maybe..
kenot kot, ada org nnt perleceh ciws is serious business yo.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Tak kisah lar.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:30 PM)
Tak kisah lar.
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apa leh buat..itu yg kroni...I mean Mindef yg mahukan...Mica pun advanced la jugak, advanced la drpd Seawolf.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 12 2014, 01:29 PM)
Nice to hear that
At least I wish the navy should moves toward acquiring or equipping to long-range SAM

Or even cruise missile like NSM
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Exocet block 3 can do that well.
QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 12 2014, 01:35 PM)
apa leh buat..itu yg kroni...I mean Mindef yg mahukan...Mica pun advanced la jugak, advanced la drpd Seawolf.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Masalah bukan kat kroni sekarang.
tapi pasal tak cukup $$$.
That because the government can't afford usd3bil price tags.
Pocket memang kering nak fund av8 dan sgpv.
nasib baik belum include mmrca and aew lagi.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:43 PM)
Masalah bukan kat kroni sekarang.
tapi pasal tak cukup $$$.
That because the government can't afford usd3bil price tags.
Pocket memang kering nak fund av8 dan sgpv.
nasib baik belum include mmrca and aew lagi.
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kalau duit tu diurus dgn telus, semua mampu bro tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 12 2014, 01:47 PM)
kalau duit tu diurus dgn telus, semua mampu bro  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Bila ada wang boros je.
bila tak ada wang baru tau susah.
sigh. What to do.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:51 PM)
Bila ada wang boros je.
bila tak ada wang baru tau susah.
sigh. What to do.
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Agree very much on this issue.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 12:26 PM)
HUA!
remember Mica are used for defense rather then offence!
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How are you bro? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:51 PM)
Bila ada wang boros je.
bila tak ada wang baru tau susah.
sigh. What to do.
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maybe nex time we should spend the money on refurbished stuff..untuk cukupkan dari segi kuantiti..quality set aside for awhile..like used blackhawks from US, used LPD, tanks and etc.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 12 2014, 01:35 PM)
apa leh buat..itu yg kroni...I mean Mindef yg mahukan...Mica pun advanced la jugak, advanced la drpd Seawolf.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I see what you did there tongue.gif
truth to be told, me don't think that the ship would not stop at just Mica

QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 04:42 PM)
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How are you bro? tongue.gif
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Haha, could not be better, a little sore from last friday tabata
HUA!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 05:25 PM)
I see what you did there  tongue.gif
truth to be told, me don't think that the ship would not stop at just Mica
Haha, could not be better, a little sore from last friday tabata
HUA!
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Wah bro.. drink lots of water.. did you drank those syrup that will help ease your sore throat? wink.gif

'Hua' mean what? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 05:40 PM)
Wah bro.. drink lots of water.. did you drank those syrup that will help ease your sore throat? wink.gif

'Hua' mean what?  hmm.gif
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haha muscle sore from workout not throat sore,
sure me have to take a lot of protein to sooth the sore, well mostly egg white

HUA means Heard Understood and Acknowledge and usually used by US army as battle cry, and it can also means

"Good copy"
"Roger," "solid copy," "good," "great," "message received," "understood," "acknowledged"
"Glad to meet you," "welcome"
"All right!"
"Thank you"
"Eh?"
"You've taken the correct action"
"You're wrong, but you outrank me."
"Outstanding!"
"That's cool" or "that's OK." As in, "That's hooah."
To motivate another soldier.
Did not hear what was said, but not going to ask to repeat.
Anything and everything except "no."


so MasBoleh! HUA?
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 06:33 PM)
haha muscle sore from workout not throat sore,
sure me have to take a lot of protein to sooth the sore, well mostly egg white

HUA means Heard Understood and Acknowledge and usually used by US army as battle cry, and it can also means

"Good copy"
"Roger," "solid copy," "good," "great," "message received," "understood," "acknowledged"
"Glad to meet you," "welcome"
"All right!"
"Thank you"
"Eh?"
"You've taken the correct action"
"You're wrong, but you outrank me."
"Outstanding!"
"That's cool" or "that's OK." As in, "That's hooah."
To motivate another soldier.
Did not hear what was said, but not going to ask to repeat.
Anything and everything except "no."
so MasBoleh! HUA?
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lol my bad.. i misunderstood it. I have the same problem like you, just mine from Karate training lol...

i see. Thank you so much for telling me. Wah, it means so many different meaning ,so which 1 are you talking about? lol
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 06:49 PM)
lol my bad.. i misunderstood it. I have the same problem like you, just mine from Karate training lol...

i see. Thank you so much for telling me. Wah, it means so many different meaning ,so which 1 are you talking about? lol
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you practice karate?

I used to practice Gi Toku Kai when I was still in school

no more now haha
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haha, all also can as long we can understand HUA!

you practice karate?

I used to practice Gi Toku Kai when I was still in school

no more now haha
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I think i require the voice tone and face expression to determine the 'Hua' meaning in different situation lol.

yea.. haha..

That style seem to be pretty rare. I practice Shito-Ryu and I am in Hayashi-Ha (if you got read newspaper about it before tongue.gif )

now you train real combat martial arts right? Can say is mixed martial art tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jan 12 2014, 06:53 PM)
Better VL MICA than this

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I see what you did there!

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I think i require the voice tone and face expression to determine the 'Hua' meaning in different situation lol.

yea.. haha..

That style seem to be pretty rare. I practice Shito-Ryu and I am in Hayashi-Ha (if you got read newspaper about it before tongue.gif )

now you train real combat martial arts right? Can say is mixed martial art tongue.gif
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Go Toku Kai is quite popular in Pahang and Swak
My sensei is now the president of GTK Malaysia

but that is the old story, the last time I was at th dojo is when I was 12 before going to mid high school
then the rest is history, I felt wanted to learn back, but when I saw only small children practicing, I got cold feet and turn away

yep now trying MMA and it is tiring as hell!
but I really want to learn the PASKAU Sang Moo Do hand to hand combat
it is quite popular now as one of the creator is now opening a public Dojo some where in Kepong iinm
and this make the martial art is now exclusive to the PASKAU commando only anymore
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 12 2014, 12:58 AM)
Looks like SGPV will proceed with exocet and vl-mica system.. oh well  cry.gif
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so MICA-VL will be use mainly as incoming missile counter-measure, not for anti-aircraft (i mean jet fighter of cos)
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 07:07 PM)
I see what you did there!
Go Toku Kai is quite popular in Pahang and Swak
My sensei is now the president of GTK Malaysia

but that is the old story, the last time I was at th dojo is when I was 12 before going to mid high school
then the rest is history, I felt wanted to learn back, but when I saw only small children practicing, I got cold feet and turn away

yep now trying MMA and it is tiring as hell!
but I really want to learn the PASKAU Sang Moo Do hand to hand combat
it is quite popular now as one of the creator is now opening a public Dojo some where in Kepong iinm
and this make the martial art is now exclusive to the PASKAU commando only anymore
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oo i see. I 1st time heard of it >.< Perhaps Shito-ryu and Shotokan more famous in East Coast State. smile.gif

GO for Kyokushin Karate wink.gif They have dojo in KL but quite pricey for adults.

Wah.. i see. I thought you in Military got go for Military training and Military combat yet you still wanna go out and learn more martial arts, you really have huge interest in martial arts laugh.gif You gonna be RED in future man XD
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Friday, January 10, 2013 10:14 AM

Vietnam would like to buy Russian-made T-90 main battle tanks to increase its military power

According to the website Voice of Russia, Vietnam would like to buy Russian-made main battle tank T-90. Vietnam wants to equip its armed forces with modern main battle tanks to response about the increase of military power from its neighboring countries.
   
Vietnamese armed forces are currently equipped with old tanks delivered by Russia and China, the Russian T-55 and T-62, and the Chinese-made Type 59.

The T-90 is the latest generation of Russian-made main battle tank. It is currently the most modern tank in service with the Russian Ground Forces and Naval Infantry.

At the Defense Exhibition Russian Arms Expo 2013, the Russian Defense Company Uralvagonzavod has presented the latest upgrade of T-90 main battle tank, the T-90S also called T-90MS.

In 2001, India bought 310 T-90S tanks from Russia, of which 120 were delivered complete, 90 in semi-knocked down kits, and 100 in completely knocked down kits. The T-90 was selected because it is a direct development of the T-72 that India already employs with 60% logistics commonality with T-90 simplifying training and maintenance.

Russia has long been Vietnam’s top supplier of weapon and military equipment. In August 2013, Vietnamese Defense Minister Phung Quang was in Russia to boost military ties, in line with the two countries’ efforts to build on a strategic partnership they signed last year.

In 2012, Vietnam signed a deal to borrow $8 billion from Russia to build its first nuclear power plant. Russian state-run utility and nuclear energy company Rosatom is expected to start the project next year, with operations ready in 2020.

In 2009 Vietnam ordered six Kilo-class, diesel-electric submarines, the first of which is scheduled to go into service this month, Mr. Hardy said. Since 2009 Vietnam has also acquired 20 Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighter aircraft, Svetlyak-class (Project 1041.2) fast attack craft, and Gepard frigates from Russia, he said.

Vietnam doesn’t publicize its defense budget for the recent years as it often considers military activities to be state secrets. The defense budget was last disclosed in the 2009 Defense White Paper, reaching $1.46 billion in 2008, equal to 1.8% of GDP that year.


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Video of the Nakhoda Ragam Corvette being moved into dry dock for a new paint job before this year scheduled delivery to Indonesia.



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Corvette "Nakhoda Ragam" being moved in to Milford Haven Dry Dock on the 30th of July 2013, assisted by Williams Shipping's "Wilanne" and "Lilah".


Pictures of the new paint job can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex-brown/se...ith/8998197054/

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so MICA-VL will be use mainly as incoming missile counter-measure, not for anti-aircraft (i mean jet fighter of cos)
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Actually, any airborne threats. By logic no air craft will fly within target (ship) defense range (include ship ECM range).
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Gowind class by DCNS

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 07:13 PM)
oo i see. I 1st time heard of it >.< Perhaps Shito-ryu and Shotokan more famous in East Coast State. smile.gif

GO for Kyokushin Karate wink.gif They have dojo in KL but quite pricey for adults.

Wah.. i see. I thought you in Military got go for Military training and Military combat yet you still wanna go out and learn more martial arts, you really have huge interest in martial arts  laugh.gif  You gonna be RED in future man XD
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nah, me just a civi
the closet thing I ever got into military is PKBM during high school
but since I'm a brat (me dad, uncle and grandfather was in the military) so the culture is kind of stuck with me

Shito-Ryu, I think they still have a dojo here in Kuantan, need to check back!
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 01:43 PM)
Exocet block 3 can do that well.

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I wish RMN pick NSM instead, nsm got stealth and same range as exocet block 3

for vl mica i fine with it, since essm range only about 50-60km where most anti ship missile launch by aircraft are well beyond that range
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holy shiat

well..their country in war during end of 60's..terribly in a mess at that time..while we celebrated freedom since 1950's

fast forwarding to 2013, they have formidable defence (adequate subs, long range SAMs, etc2 & now wanna buy T-90), they have better high-speed internet, they have beautiful chicks, they also starting to build Nuclear Power Plant!

wow....just........WOW................................


meanwhile, in so-called advance Malaysia....................wait? where were we? owh, that Kalimah Allah issue again doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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Malaysian naval chief says procurements unlikely in 2014 given fiscal climate

Dzirhan Mahadzir, Kuala Lumpur - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
09 January 2014
 
The Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) does not expect to undertake any significant development programmes in 2014 beyond existing commitments due to budgetary constraints, the navy chief Admiral Aziz Jaafar has said.

Speaking to reporters following his annual New Year address to the RMN at the Ministry of Defence in Kuala Lumpur, Adm Aziz said the current financial situation precluded any major programmes, including the procurement of additional ships.

That said, he added that should any opportunities to purchase secondhand ships that met the RMN's operational criteria come up, the RMN would ask the government to fund such a purchase.

"We are open to such possibilities, if it arises but it would depend on the financial situation of the government," he said, citing previous failed attempts to purchase the Bruneian Nakhoda Ragam-class OPVs because no funding was available.


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m'sia kena mula bina 4 guided-missile cruisers, 10 guided missile destroyers, 25 frigates dan beli 8 SSGs & 8 SSKs..baru boleh gaduh2 dgn china di spratly..
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m'sia kena mula bina 4 guided-missile cruisers, 10 guided missile destroyers, 25 frigates dan beli 8 SSGs & 8 SSKs..baru boleh gaduh2 dgn china di spratly..
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menjerit orang-orang kat parlimen tu nanti
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I wish RMN pick NSM instead, nsm got stealth and same range as exocet block 3

for vl mica i fine with it, since essm range only about 50-60km where most anti ship missile launch by aircraft are well beyond that range
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it is still unconfirmed anyway
If I were the menhan I would go for CVS401 Perseus.

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Philippine Navy selects PT PAL for SSV procurement

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
09 January 2014
 
Indonesia's PT PAL has been selected to construct two strategic sealift vessels (SSVs) for the Philippine Navy (PN).

PT PAL executive Edy Andarto told IHS Jane's on 10 January that the company has received a notice of award (NoA) from the PN to build the ships, and that a contract will be signed soon.

Andarto also confirmed that PT PAL had offered the PN an SSV design based loosely on the Makassar-class landing platform docks (LPDs) that the company constructed for the Indonesian Navy. The Makassar-class platform was designed by South Korean company Daesun.

The SSV programme, which replaced and downsized a previous amphibious multirole vessel project, is worth PHP4 billion (USD90 million).


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menjerit orang-orang kat parlimen tu nanti
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QUOTE(leon-chua @ Jan 12 2014, 08:46 PM)
m'sia kena mula bina 4 guided-missile cruisers, 10 guided missile destroyers, 25 frigates dan beli 8 SSGs & 8 SSKs..baru boleh gaduh2 dgn china di spratly..
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We can't afford it.
I would go for 13units gowind class.
redesignate as 3950tonnage guided-missile frigates.
Fully equipe with aster 15/30 80 cell + 8 cell MdCN + 8 CVS401 Perseus.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 12 2014, 08:54 PM)
We can't afford it.
I would go for 13units gowind class.
redesignate as 3950tonnage guided-missile frigates.
Fully equipe with aster 15/30 80 cell + 8 cell MdCN + 8 CVS401 Perseus.
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woa..13 units..anything above 10 units is considered luxury for us Malaysia nowadays won't u say? haha biggrin.gif
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We can't afford it.
I would go for 13units gowind class.
redesignate as 3950tonnage guided-missile frigates.
Fully equipe with aster 15/30 80 cell + 8 cell MdCN + 8 CVS401 Perseus.
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or take FREMM-ER or FREDA version an anti-air warfare frigate derive from FREMM DCNS

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The FREDA design features a more powerful version of the Héraklès radar and 32 cells of SYLVER A50 in place of the 16 cells of A43 and 16 cells of A70. The SYLVER A50 would allow it to fire the 120 km-range Aster 30 missile; the towed array sonar would not be fitted.

At Euronaval 2012 DCNS showed a new concept called FREMM-ER for the FREDA requirement, again based on the FREMM, but specifically mentioning the ballistic missile defence mission as well as anti-air. FREMM-ER has a modified superstructure replacing Héraklès with the new Thales Sea Fire 500 radar, whose four fixed plates resemble those of the US Navy's AN/SPY-1


source wikipedia, euronaval


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 08:22 PM)
nah, me just a civi
the closet thing I ever got into military is PKBM during high school
but since I'm a brat (me dad, uncle and grandfather was in the military) so the culture is kind of stuck with me

Shito-Ryu, I think they still have a dojo here in Kuantan, need to check back!
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haha i see. wink.gif

well not a bad thing to be in military, you serve and protect the nation, you shall be proud of it right? wink.gif

haha.. actually most of these karate is sport based.
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We can't afford it.
I would go for 13units gowind class.
redesignate as 3950tonnage guided-missile frigates.
Fully equipe with aster 15/30 80 cell + 8 cell MdCN + 8 CVS401 Perseus.
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Kayuh pelan2 bro..we got another 15 hull to go..huhuuh
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 09:17 PM)
haha i see. wink.gif

well not a bad thing to be in military, you serve and protect the nation, you shall be proud of it right? wink.gif

haha.. actually most of these karate is sport based.
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HUA!
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China Stepping Up Intervention on South China Sea

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The US has described new Chinese rules on fishing access to disputed areas of the
South China Sea as "provocative and potentially dangerous"

US: China new sea rules 'provocative'
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New fishing rules reflect a continued desire to affirm China’s maritime sovereignty in
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Hainan's New Fishing Rules: A Preliminary Analysis
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The Philippines and Vietnam have condemned China's new law that requires foreign fishermen
to seek Beijing's approval to operate in much of the South China Sea, where overlapping territorial claims
have increased tensions.

Philippines, Vietnam condemn China's new fishing law that reinforces claim on South China Sea
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The fishing rules, approved by China's southern Hainan province, took effect on January 1
and require foreign fishing vessels to obtain approval to enter disputed waters in the South China Sea,
which the local government says are under its jurisdiction.

Japan condemns China fishing curbs; vows to defend islands
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HUA!
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Do you think we will ever be in war with China along with other ASEAN nation? wink.gif
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 12 2014, 09:54 PM)
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Do you think we will ever be in war with China along with other ASEAN nation? wink.gif
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Full scale war?
nope

but small skirmishes that I'm afraid off
they are quite opportunist
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Japan shows off its military might in dispute with China
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The Japanese Self Defence Force has held a military drill with the theme of island defence as tensions continue with China over some disputed islands. Report by Jeremy Barnes.


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 10:54 PM)
Full scale war?
nope

but small skirmishes that I'm afraid off
they are quite opportunist
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hope we wouldn't have to face like vietnam did.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 12 2014, 10:54 PM)
Full scale war?
nope

but small skirmishes that I'm afraid off
they are quite opportunist
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Why do you think China won't go for full scale war? tongue.gif Perhaps China will be like US , invading other nation with motives haha
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hope we wouldn't have to face like vietnam did..  sad.gif
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jan 13 2014, 07:31 AM)
Why do you think China won't go for full scale war? tongue.gif Perhaps China will be like US , invading other nation with motives haha
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nope, China is a rising in economic and it shows that it do not stop in this 10 - 20 years
going for a full scale war will effect its economic growth that will lead to international embargo and even international conflict with other country that condemn the action
surely their country are self suffice but not for long
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 13 2014, 07:42 AM)
yep, that is what we afraid off
nope, China is a rising in economic and it shows that it do not stop in this 10 - 20 years
going for a full scale war will effect its economic growth that will lead to international embargo and even international conflict with other country that condemn the action
surely their country are self suffice but not for long
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Then why US who also doing well in term of economy decides to invade middle east countries with conspiracies? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 13 2014, 07:42 AM)
yep, that is what we afraid off
nope, China is a rising in economic and it shows that it do not stop in this 10 - 20 years
going for a full scale war will effect its economic growth that will lead to international embargo and even international conflict with other country that condemn the action
surely their country are self suffice but not for long
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That's the reason why they claim the entire South China Sea. To be self-sufficient. China is looking for a secure source of energy. Middle-East is mostly under US control, except for Iran. Even so, the sea lanes from Iran to China is too long and too vulnerable. Chinese navy simply didn't have the resources to secure the sea lanes. Russia is ally now, but that can change. They fought several border clashes in the past. Spratly Island on the other hand, are nearby and within easy reach. All the countries around the area is militarily weak and can easily be bullied into an agreement favorable to china.
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RAFALE at AIROD


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SU-30MKM at AIROD
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Rafale body with RMAF roundel, Airod logo..
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A new life for the Rafale M F1

A very good news from LeMamouth : The retrofit process of the 10 first Rafale M has begun at the SIAe (Industrial Aeronautic Service) facilities near Clermont- Ferrand.

The Rafale M1 to M10 were delivered between 2000 and 2002 at the early F1 standard with limited capabilities (Mica EM and, Magic 2 missiles for Air defense and buddy-buddy refueling pod)

They were put in storage in 2008 waiting for their retrofit to be funded (€300 millions agreed in 2009). The first aircraft to be upgraded will be the M10. Each retrofit is expected to last 18 months. The final integration work will take place in Bordeaux-Merignac where the airframes will directly be inserted in the Rafale assembly line.



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tuler, jgn la kasi aku ejakulasi pramatang wey...
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Rafale? Sweet dream je. tongue.gif
Advance super hornet ftw. flex.gif
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Advance super hornet ftw. flex.gif
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Dpt Rafale, cantek, dapat Super Horny pun ok jugak..janji rudal ye ampuh..
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Kalau super horny boleh dapat jsm, paveway, jdam dan aim9x.
Not sure if we can get aim-120d currently we are only approve for c-5.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 13 2014, 03:50 PM)
Kalau super horny boleh dapat jsm, paveway, jdam dan aim9x.
Not sure if we can get aim-120d currently we are only approve for c-5.
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ok la tu...advanced MRAAM nnt leh dpt bundled masa beli Pak-Fa nnt tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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so comfirm TUDM angkat Super Horny?
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 13 2014, 03:52 PM)
ok la tu...advanced MRAAM nnt leh dpt bundled masa beli Pak-Fa nnt  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(acam2812 @ Jan 13 2014, 03:54 PM)
so comfirm TUDM angkat Super Horny?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 13 2014, 03:50 PM)
Kalau super horny boleh dapat jsm, paveway, jdam dan aim9x.
Not sure if we can get aim-120d currently we are only approve for c-5.
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get C-7 pun ok lah.... C-5
tak dapat AIM120 C-7 beli Rafale saja....
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 13 2014, 02:58 PM)
tuler, jgn la kasi aku ejakulasi pramatang wey...
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 13 2014, 03:37 PM)
Dpt Rafale, cantek, dapat Super Horny pun ok jugak..janji rudal ye ampuh..
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 13 2014, 05:34 PM)
get C-7 pun ok lah.... C-5
tak dapat AIM120 C-7 beli Rafale saja....
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But mayb we should try ask for aim120d first.

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pelik benor nickname Super Horny..Cik Su tu bole terima lagi..  sweat.gif
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Cik horny dah lama digunakan. laugh.gif
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lol @yinchet wants 13 gowind classes xD
nvr gonna happen la brader
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lol @yinchet wants 13 gowind classes xD
nvr gonna happen la brader
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pasukan kapal selam tentera laut malaysia mesti sekarang dah ada kat atas sabah sarawak rasanya.. china nak serang dah tempat kepulauan spratly tu dalam masa beberapa hari lagi..

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WASHINGTON, Jan 14, 2014 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress January 13 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Singapore for an upgrade of F-16 Block 52 aircraft and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $2.43 billion.

The Government of Singapore has requested an upgrade of 60 F-16C/D/D+ aircraft. The upgrades will address reliability, supportability, and combat effectiveness concerns associated with its aging F-16 fleet. The items being procured in this proposed sale include:

70 Active Electronically Scanned Array Radars (AESA)
70 LN-260 Embedded Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation Systems (GPS/INS)
70 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
70 APX-125 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) Combined Interrogator Transponders
3 AIM-9X Block II Captive Air Training Missiles
3 TGM-65G Maverick Missiles for testing and integration
4 GBU-50 Guided Bomb Units (GBU) for testing and integration
5 GBU-38 Joint Direct Attack Munitions for testing and integration
3 CBU-105 (D-4)/B Sensor Fused Weapons for testing and integration
1 AIS Interface Test Adapters for software updates
1 Classified Computer Program Identification Numbers (CPINs)
4 GBU-49 Enhanced Paveways for testing and integration
2 DSU-38 Laser Seekers for testing and integration
6 GBU-12 Paveway II, Guidance Control Units

Also included are Modular Mission Computers, a software maintenance facility, cockpit multifunction displays, radios, secure communications, video recorders; a Joint Mission Planning System (JMPS); maintenance, repair and return, aircraft and ground support equipment, spare and repair parts, tool and test equipment; engine support equipment, publications and technical documentation; aerial refueling support, aircraft ferry services, flight test; personnel training and training equipment, site surveys, construction, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated cost is $2.43 billion...

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/singa...lock-52-upgrade


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WASHINGTON, Jan 14, 2014 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress January 13 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Singapore for an upgrade of F-16 Block 52 aircraft and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $2.43 billion.
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huh?
What super hornet confirmed?

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huh?
What super hornet confirmed?
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Now that SG can get AESA, we might get super hornet with aesa too. From what i understand from reading around, SH is not attractive for MY if no AESA included in the deal.
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QUOTE(lulz @ Jan 15 2014, 07:37 AM)
Now that SG can get AESA, we might get super hornet with aesa too. From what i understand from reading around, SH is not attractive for MY if no AESA included in the deal.
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Sg already got their AESA radar long time ago.
I dun think aesa radar is the problem but the weapons package are.
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Indonesia Purchases Air Defense System From Thales

Jan. 14, 2014 - 07:01PM   | 
By ANDREW CHUTER   |   Comments

LONDON — The Indonesian Army has turned to the British arm of Thales to plug a gap in its short-range air defenses with a deal to purchase its Forceshield integrated system of vehicle-mounted missiles and radars.

Under the deal, Thales operations in Britain and France will equip five Indonesian Army batteries with Starstreak missiles, ControlMaster200 radars and weapon coordination systems, lightweight multiple launchers and RapidRanger weapon launchers, said David Beatty, vice president for advanced weapon systems at Thales UK.

Beatty said that although there are no options in the contract for additional deliveries, “once we show we can deliver our solution and the customer likes it, we hope to develop good relations for follow-on orders from the Indonesian authorities.”

The purchase is the latest in a string of orders aimed at modernizing the Indonesian Army. The military is adding main battle tanks, 155mm artillery, infantry fighting vehicles, and other weapons to its inventory.

The Indonesians also purchased next-generation light anti-tank weapons developed by Saab for the British and Swedish armies. The missiles are built by Thales at the Northern Ireland weapon facilities that are also responsible for Starstreak work.

The air defense deal is worth more than £100 million (US $164 million), said Thales, and includes an agreement with Indonesian state-owned company PT LEN Industri to partner on integration of some of the systems involved in the contract as well as future collaboration in the military and civil sectors.

The deal being announced this week is a combination of two contracts, one going back to November 2011 with Indonesia to acquire the first of five required batteries.

No deliveries were made under the earlier arrangement and the delivery schedule being worked on by Thales combines the two contracts, Beatty said.

The Thales executive said the company hopes to get “deliveries of the man-portable elements of the weapon underway this year but that equipment with longer lead times like the ControlMaster200 medium-range air-defense radar would take longer and it would take several years to deliver the complete integrated system.”

Starstreak will provide air defense out to about 7 kilometers against ground attack aircraft, pop-up attack helicopters, drones and cruise missiles and is seen as a replacement for the longer range British Rapier missile systems previously a mainstay of Indonesian anti-air capabilities.

Operating at speeds in excess of Mach 3 and able to travel at more than a kilometer a second, Starstreak is the fastest short-range surface-to-air missile in the world. Britain, South Africa and most recently Thailand are all operators of the laser beam-riding weapon.

Thales beat Saab with its RBS-70-based air defense system, although earlier several other weapons suppliers had shown an interest in the requirement, including Poland and China.

The RapidRanger launcher and fire control system equipped with four Starstreak missile tubes will be integrated into the Spanish-designed Vamtac vehicle for the Indonesians. The vehicle is similar in appearance to the Humvee.

A version of the LandRover Defender will be used to mount a lightweight multiple launcher version of Starstreak. The lightweight launcher can also be used dismounted for firing off a man-portable tripod.

It’s the first sale of an integrated turn-key air defense solution by Thales since the company relaunched its offerings in the sector under the ForceShield banner nearly two years ago.


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QUOTE(lulz @ Jan 15 2014, 07:37 AM)
Now that SG can get AESA, we might get super hornet with aesa too. From what i understand from reading around, SH is not attractive for MY if no AESA included in the deal.
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AN\APG-73 no longer produced. We already got congress approval for AN/APG-79 before.

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 15 2014, 09:49 AM)
does malaysia have something familar?

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does malaysia have something familar?
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QUOTE(lulz @ Jan 15 2014, 07:37 AM)
Now that SG can get AESA, we might get super hornet with aesa too. From what i understand from reading around, SH is not attractive for MY if no AESA included in the deal.
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their eagles already come with aesa out of the box.
now is upgrade their vipers to aesa.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 15 2014, 09:02 AM)
Sg already got their AESA radar long time ago.
I dun think aesa radar is the problem but the weapons package are.
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jan 15 2014, 10:04 AM)
AN\APG-73 no longer produced. We already got congress approval for AN/APG-79 before.
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jan 15 2014, 10:31 AM)
their eagles already come with aesa out of the box.
now is upgrade their vipers to aesa.
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hope TUDM will get super horny and some stealth fighter and attack heli if permit.
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QUOTE(acam2812 @ Jan 15 2014, 10:47 AM)
hope TUDM will get super horny and some stealth fighter and attack heli if permit.
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only can buy from 2014~2016, start year 2017 close to 2018 election so all procurement will stop.
And F18 Block3 Advance Super hornet if no order, boeing will close production at 2017.
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QUOTE(souless223 @ Jan 14 2014, 08:22 PM)
if i became ministry of defence i'd inject 3billion usd into malaysian military R&D
and hopefully from there we get cheaper local tech and some revenue from international sales
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QUOTE(king of fighter @ Jan 15 2014, 12:41 AM)
pasukan kapal selam tentera laut malaysia mesti sekarang dah ada kat atas sabah sarawak rasanya.. china nak serang dah tempat kepulauan spratly tu dalam masa beberapa hari lagi..

Chinese media: Confrontation at Pag-asa Island unavoidable

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/96603/chi...and-unavoidable
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kita tak tau dia kat mana,
that's how submarine works

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 15 2014, 07:28 AM)
huh?
What super hornet confirmed?
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 15 2014, 12:31 PM)
ko jadik PM
Mindef bagi aku
PDRM bagi yinchet  tongue.gif
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amboi dah siap jemaah menteri
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Video of KAI 1st successful ferry flight delivery of the T-50i Golden Eagle to Indonesia.


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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Jan 15 2014, 12:37 PM)
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 15 2014, 12:31 PM)
ko jadik PM
Mindef bagi aku
PDRM bagi yinchet  tongue.gif
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kita tak tau dia kat mana,
that's how submarine works
nope, Aesa for F-16
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 15 2014, 01:02 PM)
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Japan self-defence ship, fishing boat collide; two in critical condition

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TOKYO : A Japanese Self-Defence Force ship and a leisure fishing boat collided off the coast of Hiroshima in western Japan,
leaving two of the fishing boat's crew in critical condition, the country's defence minister said on Wednesday.

The fishing boat, with four crew, capsized after the collision with the vessel "Osumi" at around 8 a.m. (2300 GMT).
The cause of the collision is still being investigated, the Japanese Coast Guard said.

"This accident is very regrettable," Defence Minister Itsunori Onodera told an emergency news conference after the accident,
pledging full cooperation and help with the probe.

The accident comes as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe boosts military spending to counter a more militarily assertive China,
with ships from the two countries shadowing each other around a group of East China Sea islets claimed by both.

Japan calls the islands the Senkaku and China calls them the Diaoyu.

The accident occurred in the Seto Inland Sea to the east of Atatajima, a small island off the coast of Hiroshima city,
the Coast Guard said, adding that the remaining two crew of the fishing boat were conscious and their lives were not in danger.



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Today KD Jebat also suffered collision with an unidentified cargo/tanker ship, damage is considered small and none got hurt
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jan 15 2014, 10:04 AM)
AN\APG-73 no longer produced. We already got congress approval for AN/APG-79 before.
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That what I told every1 still got ppl insist we are not getting aesa radar.
especially certain blog who asking ppl belanja coffees. tongue.gif

QUOTE(acam2812 @ Jan 15 2014, 10:47 AM)
hope TUDM will get super horny and some stealth fighter and attack heli if permit.
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Stealth fighter? I dun think we are getting it anytime soon.
attack heli cuma tunggu budget.

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ko jadik PM
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kita tak tau dia kat mana,
that's how submarine works
nope, Aesa for F-16
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Navy Frigate, Commercial Vessel Brush Against Each Other In Melaka Strait

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 15 (Bernama) -- A patrolling Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) frigate and an unidentified commercial vessel brushed against each other in the Melaka Strait at 3 am Wednesday, said Chief of Navy Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar.

No one was injured in the incident which occurred 24 nautical miles north-west of One Fathom Bank in Selangor waters during rain and rough seas, he told reporters at Wisma Pertahanan, here.

Abdul Aziz said the frigate, KD Jebat, based in Lumut, Perak, suffered slight damage but quick action by the commanding officer and the crew saved the vessel from serious damage.

He said KD Jebat was on routine patrol in the Melaka Strait when the incident happened.

"The RMN has set up a board to investigate the cause of the accident," he said, adding that efforts were being made to identify the commercial vessel.

-- BERNAMA


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ko jadik PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 15 2014, 02:31 PM)
That what I told every1 still got ppl insist we are not getting aesa radar.
especially certain blog who asking ppl belanja coffees. tongue.gif
Stealth fighter? I dun think we are getting it anytime soon.
attack heli cuma tunggu budget.
Lolz apa ni.
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elok le tu, ada bonus kene jaga lembu skali  icon_idea.gif
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Thales announces order for ForceSHIELD Integrated Air Defence system and STARStreak missiles for Indonesian Ministry of Defence

Wed, 15/01/2014

Thales UK today announced that it has signed a contract worth over £100 million with the Indonesian Ministry of Defence for ForceSHIELD, Thales’s integrated Advanced Air Defence system. In addition to the supply of STARStreak short-range air defence missiles, the system comprises CONTROLMaster200 radar and weapon coordination systems, RAPIDRanger mobile weapon systems and Lightweight Multiple Launchers (LML), as well as associated communications, training and support equipment.

Victor Chavez, CEO of Thales UK, said: “Thales is the only European defence contractor with the in-depth knowledge and range of advanced technologies to deliver a leading-edge integrated air defence solution such as ForceSHIELD. This solution for the Indonesian Army marks a new approach to air defence in that it provides a complete turnkey solution comprising latest-generation ‘sensor to effects’ technologies. I would like to express my gratitude to the Prime Minister for his personal support on this project and the support of the government – it makes a huge difference to industry and our customers.”

For the realisation of this programme, Thales will increase its existing industrial cooperation with the Republic of Indonesia, and has signed an agreement with the Indonesian company PT LEN Industri. The Group will continue to develop a long-term partnership with the Indonesian industry on future programmes in both the military and civil sectors.


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did we took the F/A-18D AESA radar upgrade?
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Singapore Wants To Upgrade 60 F-16s

The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress January 13 of a possible foreign military sale to Singapore for an upgrade of F-16 aircraft. The estimated cost is $2.43 billion U.S.
More from the agency’s news release:

The Government of Singapore has requested an upgrade of 60 F-16C/D/D+ aircraft. The upgrades will address reliability, supportability, and combat effectiveness concerns associated with its aging F-16 fleet. The items being procured in this proposed sale include:

• 70 Active Electronically Scanned Array Radars (AESA)
• 70 LN-260 Embedded Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation Systems (GPS/INS)
• 70 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
• 70 APX-125 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) Combined Interrogator Transponders
• 3 AIM-9X Block II Captive Air Training Missiles
• 3 TGM-65G Maverick Missiles for testing and integration
• 4 GBU-50 Guided Bomb Units (GBU) for testing and integration
• 5 GBU-38 Joint Direct Attack Munitions for testing and integration
• 3 CBU-105 (D-4)/B Sensor Fused Weapons for testing and integration
• 1 AIS Interface Test Adapters for software updates
• 1 Classified Computer Program Identification Numbers (CPINs)
• 4 GBU-49 Enhanced Paveways for testing and integration
• 2 DSU-38 Laser Seekers for testing and integration
• 6 GBU-12 Paveway II, Guidance Control Units

Also included are Modular Mission Computers, a software maintenance facility, cockpit multifunction displays, radios, secure communications, video recorders; a Joint Mission Planning System (JMPS); maintenance, repair and return, aircraft and ground support equipment, spare and repair parts, tool and test equipment; engine support equipment, publications and technical documentation; aerial refueling support, aircraft ferry services, flight test; personnel training and training equipment, site surveys, construction, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated cost is $2.43 billion.

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did we took the F/A-18D AESA radar upgrade?
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but cant remember when!
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In June 2012, the Ministry of Defense of Indonesia and Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS) signed the contract for the first SIGMA 10514 Perusak Kawal Rudal (PKR) Frigate. In accordance with the agreed planning for the construction of this frigate, the Steel Cutting Ceremony took place simultaneously on 15 January 2014 at PT PAL (Persero) Shipyard in Surabaya (Indonesia) and DSNS in Vlissingen (the Netherlands).

DSNS will build two modules and subsequently ship them to the yard in Surabaya. The simultaneous construction and testing of the modules at two different locations signifies the unique modular building strategy of Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding; a method unparalleled in the naval shipbuilding industry.

All modules will be assembled at the PT PAL (Persero) Shipyard under main contractor ship of DSNS followed by Harbor Acceptance Tests and Sea Acceptance Trials.

The engineering process for the second SIGMA 10514 PKR frigate proceeds as scheduled and construction is foreseen to start in approximately six months.

The acquisition of the SIGMA 10514 PKR Frigate is part of the further modernization and expansion of the Indonesian Navy, TNI-AL. The main missions and tasks of the SIGMA PKR 10514 will be in the domains of naval warfare as well as Maritime Security missions and tasks. Also, the vessel may be used for humanitarian support tasks.

Main characteristics
•    Length:        105 mtr
•    Width:        14 mtrs
•    Displacement:    approx 2400 tons
•    Propulsion:    Combined Diesel and Electric(CODOE)
•    Crew:        100 + 20 spare accommodation
•    Helicopter:        ability to carry an organic helicopter
•    Combat System:
o    Extensive Air, Surface and Sub-Surface Surveillance capabilities
o    Guided Missile Systems and gun systems for Anti-Air Warfare and Anti-Surface Warfare
o    Torpedo systems for Anti-Submarine Warfare
o    Active and Passive Electronic Warfare Systems
o    Tacticos Combat Management System


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Nov 28/11: Malaysia. Boeing in St. Louis, MO receives a $17.3 million firm-fixed-price order for the design, development, and installation of engineering change proposal (ECP 618) retrofit kits for the RMAF’s 8 F/A-18D Hornet fighters, under the Foreign Military Sales Program. This contract action also includes training for ECP 618 and ECP 624, and the installation of other systems that are part of the Malaysian upgrade. Conversations with Boeing explain that:

    “This contract includes design, development, and installation of retrofit kits that will provide enhanced navigation and targeting capabilities, along with associated training for maintenance and air crews. The majority of work to be performed under this contract is within the scope defined in the baseline Foreign Military Sales case and not the May 2011 Defense Security Cooperation Agency announcement for the Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared [targeting pods, see DID coverage] which itself was an amendment to the existing baseline FMS case.”

That scope includes GPS improvements, a colored moving-map cockpit display, changes to IFF, and the addition of the JHMCS helmet-mounted sight. Work will be performed in St. Louis, MO (70%), and Butterworth, Malaysia (30%), and is expected to be complete in April 2015. US Naval Air Systems Command in Patuxent River, MD will manage the sale on behalf of its FMS client.


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The Army's Ground Combat Vehicle is all but canceled with funding slashed in the 2014 omnibus spending bill.
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Though long-touted as a “must have” for the future Army, the Ground Combat Vehicle is all but canceled.

The 2014 omnibus spending bill, passed by the House on Wednesday, provides what could be the final nail in the coffin.

The Army had requested $592 million for the program in fiscal 2014.
But lawmakers gave only $100 million - essentially enough to start closing shop.

Army Times reported in August that the program was facing a major delay or cancellation.

The Army, driven by the findings of its Unified Quest exercises in late 2013, said it plans to shrink squads and brigades.
The Army long argued for the GCV because it can carry an entire squad. The Bradley carries seven soldiers.
Nine soldiers comprise the current Army squad.

Squads aren’t the only things being cut. Funding also is taking a big hit, and the Army will spend more than 80 percent of its combat
vehicle modernization budget on GCV over the next five years. The program comes in at least $29 billion without overruns,
setbacks and other problems these programs tend to face. Some estimates place the cost as high as $34 billion.

An April 17 Congressional Research Service report raised significant questions about the cost and need for the next-generation
combat troop carrier. This comes on the heels of an April 2013 Congressional Budget Office analysis that recommended the Army
replace the $29 billion program with more Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles or foreign vehicles.

GCV’s size was a hot topic, as well. BAE Systems’ GCV tips the scales at a whopping 70 tons, for example. This matches the enhanced
M1A2 tank, making it the world’s heaviest infantry fighting vehicle. Much of its weight comes from multiple armor packages that rest
on a steel core hull to provide maximum protection. But Army leadership said in November it wants to use emerging (undeveloped)
technologies to ensure the heaviest vehicles come in at 30 tons. That is the optimal size for sustainment and operations in the heavily
urbanized environments that lay ahead, officials said.


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That quite heavily damage.
darn we are already lacking of ship.
hopefully it will fixed asap.
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Spanish firm offers 3 planes to Philippine Air Force

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Posted at 01/13/2014 7:57 PM | Updated as of 01/13/2014 8:01 PM

MANILA - The Department of National Defense has named a Spanish aircraft company as the single calculated bidder that will supply three brand new medium-lift aircraft to the Philippine Air Force.

The DND Bids and Awards Committee said EADS Casa Airbus Military passed all the technical and financial specifications set by the committee.

EADS Casa Airbus Military took part in the previous bidding in November but was disqualified for failing to meet documentary requirements. The bidding was declared a failure after another firm was also disqualified.

EADS Casa Airbus Military is offering three C295 aircraft, with integrated logistics system, for P5.288 billion to the DND.

DND Undersecretary Fernando Manalo said the first aircraft should be delivered 18 months after the opening of the credit.

An Indonesian firm that took part in the bidding said it is going to file a motion for reconsideration before the DND-BAC.

The Air Force is need of dire need of medium-lift aircraft to complement its three C-130 planes, which saw action in the relief operations for the victims of super typhoon Yolanda.


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Vietnam inducts first Russian-made submarine

Xinhua, January 15, 2014

A ceremony was held at Cam Ranh port in southern Vietnamese province of Khanh Hoa on Wednesday to induct its first Russian-made Kilo class submarine, the HQ 182- Hanoi, into service.

The newly-named submarine is the first of six diesel-powered Kilo-636 Varshavyanka attacking models that Vietnam bought from Russia to enhance its navy's capacity.

Deputy Defence Minister and Navy Commander Admiral Nguyen Van Hien said the crew of the submarine should be deeply aware of their political missions and targets.

According to Vietnam's state-run news agency VNA, Captain Nguyen Van Quan said the sailors will work very hard to make effective use of this modern submarine.

Having a displacement of 3,000-3,950 tonnes, the 73.8-meter- long submarine can operate at a maximum depth of 300 metres and at a range of 6,000-7,500 nautical miles for 45 days and nights with 52 crewmembers, said the VNA.

"It has the quietest engine in the world and is the best choice for reconnaissance and patrols," VNA said. 


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Indonesia to Field Thales’ ForceSHIELD Short Range Air Defense Systems
By Tamir Eshel | 16 January 2014 Thursday

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence has signed a contract with Thales UK for the delivery of Thales ForceSHIELD integrated air defense system. The contract worth over £100 million (US$164 million) covers the supply five light air defense batteries comprised of STARStreak short-range air defence missiles and CONTROLMaster200 radar and weapon coordination systems. Some of the units will be man-portable while others will employ the RAPIDRanger mobile weapon systems and Lightweight Multiple Launchers (LML). “This solution for the Indonesian Army marks a new approach to air defence in that it provides a complete turnkey solution comprising latest-generation ‘sensor to effects’ technologies.” said Victor Chavez, CEO of Thales UK.

Thales’s ForceSHIELD solution is based on customising and combining a range of new and existing product lines such as radars, communications, engagement and fire control systems, launchers and Very Short Range Air Defense (VSHORAD) missiles. Employing this flexible approach Thales can tailor solutions to meet changing requirements such as the increasing array of asymmetric and conventional air threats that exists in today’s security environment.

The CONTROLMaster200 comprises the latest generation solid-state radar, capable of detecting and tracking 200 targets simultaneously out to ranges up to 250km. It incorporates the CONTROLView engagement control system that evaluates threats, assigns weapons, and coordinates combat management activity – enabling complex and critical decisions to be made faster and with greater precision and security.

The RAPIDRanger is a unique lightweight vehicle-based launcher and fire control system, which can be integrated into a network-enabled force structure and coordinated with a variety of Command and Control systems. Equipped with the STARStreak high-velocity missile, RAPIDRanger has the ability to defeat a wide variety of air threats, including ground attack aircraft, pop-up Attack Helicopters, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) and cruise missiles.

The STARStreak missile operates at a speed in excess of Mach 3 to defeat fast-moving threats and those with short unmasking times. The three-dart ‘hittile’ configuration maximises
lethality and the highly-accurate laser beam riding guidance enables engagement of low-signature targets and is said to be immune to all known countermeasures.

To implement the program Thales plans to increase its industrial cooperation with the Republic of Indonesia, and has already signed an agreement with the Indonesian company PT LEN Industri. Thales said it also plans additional partnerships with the Indonesian industry on future programmes in both the military and civil sectors.

The Indonesian Army is already operating the Swedish RBS-70, Polish GROM and Chinese TD-2000B – all VSHORAD missile systems, acquired in the 1990s, mid-and late 2000s. Each of these systems is equipped with associated radar and control systems.

http://defense-update.com/20140116_indones...se-systems.html

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Almirante Padilla-class frigate (Kasturi class cousin) also under SLEP programme.
Equipment upgrades include:

Smart-s Mk2 radar
SETIS combat system
Sting-EO Mk2 naval fire control tracking system
MIRADOR electro-optical multi-sensor surveillance, tracking and fire control system
Vigile Radar Electronic Support Measures (RESM) system
TERMA SKSW DL-12T decoy system
MTU M-93 engines
New communication systems

In addition, OTO Melara DART ammunition and 16 SSM-700K Hae Sung I (Sea Star) anti-ship missiles were ordered

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Indonesia to Field Thales’ ForceSHIELD Short Range Air Defense Systems

http://defense-update.com/20140116_indones...se-systems.html
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£100m Indonesia missile deal firm Thales targets bigger contracts

BY CLARE WEIR – 16 January 2014

The boss of a Northern Ireland defence company which has landed a £100m missile contract with the Indonesian government has said that even bigger deals could be in the pipeline.

Thales, which has bases in Castlereagh and Crossgar, beat off tough global competition from the USA, China and Russia to supply an "integrated advanced air defence system", including missiles and launchers which are designed, developed and manufactured in Northern Ireland.

David Beatty, managing director of Thales in Northern Ireland, said that the company had been working on the deal since around 2008.

He said no new jobs are being added to the 500-strong workforce this time, but the contract could be a springboard to increasing employment at the plant.

"This contract has been in the planning for some time, we anticipated it and we tailored our staffing levels to accommodate it," he said.

"This was a two-phase project, we landed an initial contract in 2011 and we were working on it a long time before that, perhaps as far back as 2008.

"We are supplying radar, communications equipment, launchers and missiles, including the basic STARStreak missile, made in Belfast and Crossgar, and the new RAPIDRanger, which has been completely designed here, and a large part of the whole overall system will be manufactured and integrated here.


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The Finnish Army acquires Leopard 2A6 main battle tanks from Holland

On January 16th 2014 the Finnish Minister of Defence approved the proposal for acquiring one hundred used Leopard 2A6 main battle tanks for the Finnish Army.

The main battle tanks acquired from Holland will be delivered to Finland between 2015 and 2019. The purchase price is 199,9 million Euro. The acquisition will secure the striking force of the Army until the 2030's.

This acquisition does not require any extra financing but is included in the budget planned for the defence administration.

Other options for this acquisition would have been to upgrade the life cycle for the Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks that the Finnish Defence Forces use today or to buy new main battle tanks. The cost for a life cycle upgrade of the Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks to Leopard 2A6 level would have been approx. 5 million Euro per tank and for acquiring new Leopard main battle tanks approx. 10 million Euro per tank.

The used Leopard 2A6 main battle tanks that will now be acquired were modernized between 2000 and 2006 and their performance is considerably better than the performance of the main battle tanks now in use by the Finnish Army. The new main battle tanks have greater fire-power, better developed ballistic protection and a system for the leader to independently act in the dark as well as an inside splinter protection.

The main battle tank acquisition also includes spare parts for ten years, inside simulators, maintenance simulators, special tools and testing equipment as well as ammunition.

The Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks that the Finnish Defence Forces use today will continue to be in operative use and be used by the reserve until the end of their life cycle.  They will also be used for driver's training and as spare parts for the new main battle tanks.


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Defense dep’t inks contract for 28 Israeli-made ‘armored infantry fighting vehicles

January 16, 2014 10:35 am

The Department of National Defense (DND) has formally signed the contact for the delivery of 28 “armored infantry fighting vehicles” which will boost the inventory of the Army’s light armored units.

DND Assistant Secretary Patrick Velez said that this project is worth P882 million. He said the contract was already signed last week.

He added that the contract was awarded to Israeli’s leading defense manufacturer, Elbit Systems Land and C4I.

Four of the 28 “armored infantry fighting vehicles” are recovery models which can be used to tow units damaged or incapacitated in the battlefield.

For security reasons, Velez declined to give specifics of the vehicles’ armament, speed and armor but stressed that these armored infantry fighting vehicles “are very capable.”

Full delivery of these vehicles is expected within a year or around January 2015.

The PA, which has around 10 infantry divisions, is equipped with 343 AFVs (armored fighting vehicles).

Capt. Anthony Bacus, Army spokesperson, said earlier that these AFVs are distributed to the various infantry units to provide them with mobility and additional firepower.

“Around 85 percent of these AFVs are on green status (fully mission capable) while another 10 percent are on yellow status (undergoing repair) and five percent are on red (beyond repair),” he added.

Some 150 of these are the United Kingdom-built GKN “Simba” with the remaining AFVs consisting of US designed V-150 and V-200 APCs, M-113 “Bradley”, Turkish made ACV-300s and British Scorpion CVRTs.

These AFVs give the PA dependable armor capability and are organized into a 14-vehicle mechanized infantry companion for deployment with regular units. PNA


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Beijing (AFP) - China has started constructing the second of four planned
aircraft carriers, a top government official said according to media reports on Saturday.

The ship is under construction in the northeastern port of Dalian and will take
six years to build, the reports said quoting Wang Min, Communist Party chief
for Dalian's Liaoning province.


The country's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, was completed in September 2012 in a symbolic milestone for the
country's increasingly muscular military.

Another two are in the pipeline, according to Wang, in a projection of power that could be seen as contradicting
Beijing's long-stated policy of arming itself strictly for self-defence.

When the Liaoning went into service, Beijing and Tokyo were locked in a territorial row over the Japanese-controlled Senkaku
Islands in the East China Sea which China also claims and calls the Diaoyus.

The row continues to simmer, along with other sovereignty disputes with the Philippines and Vietnam.

Early this month a Japanese newspaper said China was overhauling its military structure in order to strengthen its attack
capability and secure air and naval superiority in the South China and East China seas.

The Liaoning carrier conducted its maiden mission in the South China Sea in January.

It followed an incident in December in which a US warship was forced to avoid a collision with a Chinese naval vessel,
prompting Washington to accuse China of being the aggressor.


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Indonesia closes in on Grumman F-5 Tiger replacement

Jan. 17, 2014 at 2:01 AM  |  1 comments

JAKARTA, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- Indonesia's Defense Ministry said it is looking at several jet fighters, including Russian, American and Swedish aircraft, as a replacement for its aging Grumman F-5 Tigers.

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said he wants to ensure the purchase is part of Indonesia's Strategic Plan II 2015 to 2020, Antara news agency reported.

The ministry has five or six options as a replacement for the Tigers that have been in service for about 30 years.

"We have received proposals from several jet fighter manufacturers for replacing the F-5 Tiger fighter aircraft," Yusgiantoro said.

"We are in the process of evaluating which jet fighter will best suit our requirements, whether the aircraft is from Russia, United States or other countries. I hope the finalized next-generation jet fighter is capable of carrying long-range missiles."

Among the aircraft being evaluated are the Russian Sukhoi Su-35, the American Boeing F-15 Eagle and Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, and the Swedish SAAB JAS 39 Gripen, said Gen. Moeldoko, Indonesia's top military commander.

The ministry is looking at buying 16 aircraft, but the type and number of aircraft "depends on Indonesia's financial position," Moeldoko said.

Defense analyst FlightGlobal said its database shows Indonesia operates six F-5Es, as well as three F-model trainers. Its air force also has 10 F-16A/Bs and 16 Su-27/30s in active use.

The purchase of Tiger replacements would be part of a larger upgrade of military capability outlined by Air Chief Marshal Ida Bagus Putu Dunia in October.

Indonesia is aiming to create eight new squadrons of fighter aircraft -- more than 100 aircraft -- by 2024, the Jakarta Globe newspaper reported at the time.

The Globe report also said Yusgiantoro confirmed the air force had received a squadron of 16 supersonic advanced trainer T-50 Golden Eagles -- so-called baby F-16s -- from South Korea at the Iswahyudi Military Air Base in Madiun on Java Island.

The T-50, which can be used as a light fighter, was developed by Korea Aerospace Industries and Lockheed Martin and is South Korea's first indigenous supersonic aircraft.

Its maiden flight was in 2002 and it entered service with the Korean air force in 2005.

In October, Indonesia also officially received six Russian-made Sukhoi SU-30MK2 fighter aircraft -- the last of a contract for 16 Sukhoi aircraft signed in 2007 that includes pilot training.

Sukhoi sent the aircraft to Indonesia in knocked-down form accompanied by 13 technicians to oversee assembly testing before handing them over to the military.

The Sukhoi fighters are for the air force's Squadron 11 at Hasanuddin Air Base in Makassar, the Globe reported.


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Malaysia to strengthen military exercise with US

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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia’s military exercises and training with the United States will be strengthened in order
to bolster defence cooperation between the two countries.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said such two-way cooperation was important to build confidence
and to share new experiences and training techniques among military officers from both countries.

He said this during a meeting with US Secretary of Defence Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon, Washington yesterday.

Both leaders also discussed various international defence issues, including developments in Afghanistan and North Korea,
as well as Asean’s role in overcoming regional security challenges. 

During the meeting, Hagel praised Malaysia’s commitments in Southeast Asia and called on Asean member countries to
unite and cooperate with each other to ensure regional stability.

“Malaysia is an important US ally in Southeast Asia, which has contributed a lot to security and defence, whether on its
own or by working with other Asean nations,” he said.

The meeting with Hagel was held as part of Hishammuddin’s inaugural visit to the United States after taking over the
national defence portfolio.

The two are expected to meet again at the US-Asean informal meeting in Hawaii next April.


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Found this somewhere, not sure if you guys already had it here. I think we already knew more than this...

China's South China Sea Territory Claims

sos: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kanris-kokusai/.../9/b9ef579e.jpg

Tengah dok saja-saja browsing website Jepun (maklumla weeaboo) suddenly I found this.

From where I found this, this seems to be quite dated, because there's an October 2013 timestamp on the post this was contained in (it's an archive from a Japanese BBS).

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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Jan 19 2014, 05:22 PM)
Found this somewhere, not sure if you guys already had it here. I think we already knew more than this...

China's South China Sea Territory Claims

sos: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kanris-kokusai/.../9/b9ef579e.jpg

Tengah dok saja-saja browsing website Jepun (maklumla weeaboo) suddenly I found this.

From where I found this, this seems to be quite dated, because there's an October 2013 timestamp on the post this was contained in (it's an archive from a Japanese BBS).

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Looking through Soviet T-72 scope

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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Jan 19 2014, 05:22 PM)
Found this somewhere, not sure if you guys already had it here. I think we already knew more than this...

China's South China Sea Territory Claims

sos: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kanris-kokusai/.../9/b9ef579e.jpg

Tengah dok saja-saja browsing website Jepun (maklumla weeaboo) suddenly I found this.

From where I found this, this seems to be quite dated, because there's an October 2013 timestamp on the post this was contained in (it's an archive from a Japanese BBS).

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china so far away from SEA but claim so large area..dafak so greedy mad.gif
meanwhile, even if we able to get the malaysia-claimed territory via ICJ or etc, doesn't it seems too big to guard it? so large..while we only have a few modern ships in our arsenal.. unsure.gif
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I read and watch the desert storm's documentary, seems like the Iraqis monkey model were still operated with only hand cranked turret?
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hi guys, i had one question to ask. can we import firearm model scale around 1:2 for pistol and 1:3 to 1:6 for sniper and machine guns? please advise
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KD Kasturi SLEP (All photos by Malaysian Defence).

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KD Lekir undergoing her SLEP at Boustead Naval Shipyard. On her right, is one of the Laksamana class corvettes undergoing an extensive refit.


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KD Kasturi Bofors 57mm gun seen from the bridge.


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KD Kasturi Exocet MM40 Block II SSM launchers.


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KD Kasturi as seen from the landing pad. The lights just below the radar platform are the guide lights for landing helicopters.


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Royal Thai Army AH-1F Cobra during Armed Forces Day.

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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Jan 19 2014, 05:22 PM)
Found this somewhere, not sure if you guys already had it here. I think we already knew more than this...

China's South China Sea Territory Claims

sos: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kanris-kokusai/.../9/b9ef579e.jpg

Tengah dok saja-saja browsing website Jepun (maklumla weeaboo) suddenly I found this.

From where I found this, this seems to be quite dated, because there's an October 2013 timestamp on the post this was contained in (it's an archive from a Japanese BBS).

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Unaccurate map. even claimed area by malaysia overlapped with indonesia border. Up to date, we got no issue in Natuna border with indonesia.
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Modernized S-61T™ Helicopter Launches First Flight
U.S. Department of State Already Under Contract for 13 Aircraft
6 January 2014 Monday

SHELTON, Connecticut - Sikorsky Aircraft Corp. today announced the successful maiden test flight of the modernized S-61T™ helicopter with an integrated glass cockpit and enhanced performance capabilities. Sikorsky is a subsidiary of United Technologies Corp. (NYSE:UTX).

In 2010, Sikorsky began a program to upgrade S-61™ aircraft and return them to productive service. An industry workhorse, the S-61 helicopter has performed missions reliably for U.S. and foreign allied militaries during the past several decades. The modernized S-61T helicopter represents the latest version, with a full structural refurbishment, overhaul of all major dynamic components, and installation of key upgrades including new composite main rotor blades (CMRB), a survivability suite and state-of-the-art glass cockpit, as well as all new electrical wiring throughout the aircraft. The initial test flight was completed in late 2013.

Sikorsky is under contract with the U.S. Department of State (DoS) for refurbished S-61 aircraft and already has delivered 16 helicopters. The latest order is for 13 S-61T models, with the first delivery scheduled in the first quarter of 2014. The five-year IDIQ (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) agreement with DoS allows for the purchase of up to 110 modernized S-61 aircraft. The IDIQ purchase agreement serves as the contracting vehicle for any U.S. government agency to purchase the new helicopter.

“The first flight of the S-61T represents a major milestone in the program,” said Steven Rogers, Director S-61 Programs. “The modernized S-61T helicopter can be outfitted to meet a wide variety of requirements, and we believe it provides best-in-class-value for a mid-size, multi-mission helicopter.”

Sikorsky Aircraft Corp., based in Stratford, Conn., is a world leader in helicopter design, manufacture and service. United Technologies Corp., based in Hartford, Conn., provides a broad range of high technology products and support services to the aerospace and building systems industries worldwide.

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if nobody didn't realized, nuri's actual designation is S61A4

so...
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if nobody didn't realized, nuri's actual designation is S61A4

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so..does that mean our Nuri can be upgraded to S-61T?
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GPMG....

LMG is like fn minimi or hk21
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very close resemblance to its predecessors MG42
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The Ops Fajar (Operation Dawn) ebook are available to download

http://navy.mil.my/index.php/media-massa/g...ory/16-op-fajar
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I found other forum blame our ship no crew control and monitor the radar & Navigator at ship bridge ?any idea how our ship can't avoid it ?
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I found other forum blame our ship no crew control and monitor the radar & Navigator at ship bridge ?any idea how our ship can't avoid it ?
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radar din pickup the other ship signal? i thought there's supposed to be one observer outside the bridge with his binocular on..maybe it was foggy..

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I found other forum blame our ship no crew control and monitor the radar & Navigator at ship bridge ?any idea how our ship can't avoid it ?
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There's a storm happening in the morning (3am? something) of the collision
Bad visibility and limited radar detection during bad weather probably lead to the collision
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There's a storm happening in the morning (3am? something) of the collision
Bad visibility and limited radar detection during bad weather probably lead to the collision
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Storm that night....very restricted in visibility. Bear in mind...if raining heavily radar wont able to pickup surface contact due to low rain cloud... maneuvre at sea quite confusing cause no route...u can be anyway. The only guide is navigation lights and Rules of the Road (ROR). if one ship doesnt follow...will give trouble to others... like who suppose to give way but didnt. Merchant ships normally set to auto pilot....thats why sometimes langgar bot kecik pun x sedar.
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radar din pickup the other ship signal? i thought there's supposed to be one observer outside the bridge with his binocular on..maybe it was foggy..
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Foggy wont effect so much on radar...but if raining yes. Because thick & low cloud will disturb the radar echoes.... high sea state also disturb radar echo... there is settings to minimise the effect in radar...but depends. Sometimes good sometimes not effective.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 22 2014, 05:23 PM)
I found other forum blame our ship no crew control and monitor the radar & Navigator at ship bridge ?any idea how our ship can't avoid it ?
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Wait for the investigation out first.
it not fair to shoot without knowing what really happen that night.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 22 2014, 07:00 PM)
Storm that night....very restricted in visibility. Bear in mind...if raining heavily radar wont able to pickup surface contact due to low rain cloud... maneuvre at sea quite confusing cause no route...u can be anyway. The only guide is navigation lights and Rules of the Road (ROR). if one ship doesnt follow...will give trouble to others... like who suppose to give way but didnt. Merchant ships normally set to auto pilot....thats why sometimes langgar bot kecik pun x sedar.
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KD Jebat have small Navigator antenna from Thales (in right low of main combat radar), event bad weather, at lease have 10km range to detect any object in road path and to avoid collision, some more the commercial ship is not small.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 22 2014, 07:30 PM)
KD Jebat have small Navigator antenna from Thales (in right low of main combat radar), event bad weather, at lease have 10km range to detect any object in road path and to avoid collision, some more the commercial ship is not small.
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They got 4 types of radars for different purposes... for nav, air, long range surveillance & fire control.

Normally they will run severals radar at a time...depending on situation. I had served onboard her sister ship b4 joining sub... so I knew the Emcon policy.

But anything can happened...wait for the investigation result.

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Nama pun kemalangan, tp dengar2 OOW tgh dlm hot seat nih
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Nama pun kemalangan, tp dengar2 OOW tgh dlm hot seat nih
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Tu x boleh ckp apa dah...incharge of the watch mmg kena la eventhough org lain buat...sorng lagi CO la...
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Tu x boleh ckp apa dah...incharge of the watch mmg kena la eventhough org lain buat...sorng lagi CO la...
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bukan slalu dalam ribut mmg kapal kecik ikut kapal besar ka?
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Tension with OZ escalates as RI deploys warships
By Bagus BT Saragih and Ina Parlina | 23 January 2014 Thursday | 9:35 AM

With Canberra pressing ahead with its hard-line policy of turning back asylum seekers to Indonesian waters, Jakarta told its neighbor on Wednesday the policy could lead to violations of Indonesia’s sovereignty and that it had increased security on its borders to prevent incursions.

A number of Indonesian Navy warships have been deployed and four Air Force defense radars have been programmed to closely monitor the southern border, military officials told The Jakarta Post on Wednesday.

“We are watching four radars in Timika, Merauke [in Papua], Saumlaki [Maluku] and Buraen [East Nusa Tenggara], which all face Australia,” Air Force chief spokesman Air Commodore Hadi Tjahjanto said.

“If we notice any border violations, our air base in Makassar will be ready. Australia is reachable from there.” Hadi was referring to the Sultan Hasanuddin Air Force Base in the South Sulawesi provincial capital, which is the base of the 11th squadron, consisting of 16 Russian-made Sukhoi Su-27/30 Flankers.

The Flankers have a maximum range of some 3,000 kilometers. The sea border lies some 1,000 km from Makassar. At Mach 1, or the speed of sound, the Flankers would reach the border in little over an hour.

Navy chief spokesman Commodore Untung Suropati confirmed that a number of warships had moved toward the Australian border. He said these included frigates, fast torpedo craft (KCT), fast missile craft (KCR) and corvettes as well as maritime patrol aircraft. He declined to reveal the precise number and location of the assets.

“All the ships are on the move, patrolling the waters,” he said.

Tension between the two neighbors reached a new height Wednesday after Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that stopping the boats was “a matter of sovereignty” and Jakarta should understand Canberra was taking the issue seriously.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who suspended cooperation with Australia following allegations that it attempted to spy on him and members of his inner circle, skipped the Davos meeting to oversee the handling of recent nationwide flooding and the eruption of the Mount Sinabung volcano.

Abbott’s statement came only days after Australia admitted that its naval ships had entered Indonesian waters. It later apologized to Indonesia for the incursion.

Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Djoko Suyanto said it was Australia that should respect Indonesia’s sovereignty, “which was violated by the Australian navy.”

“Asylum seekers that have entered a country, including Australia, must be managed according to the UN Convention on Refugees,” he asserted in a written statement.

Australia is a signatory to the convention. He added that the country concerned must also handle the problem in cooperation with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) or the International Organization for Migration (IOM).

Yudhoyono’s foreign affairs spokesman Teuku Faizasyah said, “A violation of our national territory for any reason cannot be tolerated.”

“If Prime Minister Abbott asks President Yudhoyono and the Indonesian people to understand Australia’s seriousness with regards to its sovereignty, in the same vein, Indonesia also asks Australia to understand our firm commitment to our vital interests.”

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bukan slalu dalam ribut mmg kapal kecik ikut kapal besar ka?
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Tak penah tgk plak. ada la kot tp radar x leh pickup.
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Tak penah tgk plak. ada la kot tp radar x leh pickup.
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aku pernah dengo cerita dari nelayan kat kuantan nih, kalo cuaca buruk ribut, kapal kecik2 ni dia ikut kapal2 besar
pasal system depa lagi bagus
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Army Day celebrations will be held in Port Dickson in March 2014, exact day will be posted as soon as it's decided, there will be display and demonstration.



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Thailand to launch lead-in fighter programme after new government forms

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
22 January 2014

The Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) expects to launch a USD400 million programme to acquire lead-in fighter trainer (LIFT) aircraft following the formation of a new Thai government, RTAF spokesman Group Captain Prapas Sonjaidee told IHS Jane's on 22 January 2014.

The aircraft acquired through the LIFT programme will replace a handful of ageing Northrop F-5 trainers in service with the RTAF and eventually its fleet of Aero L-39 Albatros trainer/light attack aircraft procured in the early 1990s. The procurement programme has become pressing since the RTAF started operating a fleet of 12 JAS 39 Gripen fighters, which were delivered from 2011-2013.


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Hornet v. MiG
U.S. Marine aviators to Malaysian MiG pilots: Show us what you got.
By Ed Darack

Nearly three miles above the turquoise waters of the South China Sea last July, U.S. Marine Lieutenant Colonel Dan Shipley eyed the dim outline of a fast-approaching Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum. Flying with the Royal Malaysian Air Force on a training mission, Shipley had been tracking the MiG by radar from the cockpit of his Boeing F/A-18D Hornet. While Shipley and Captain Justin Archibald, the Hor-net’s weapons and sensors officer, could have tried to simulate firing an air-to-air missile at the MiG from a distance, the war game required that the two confirm with their eyes that the MiG really was a MiG, and not a friendly military aircraft or an unarmed civilian airplane.

The Hornet and MiG rocketed past each other at a combined velocity of nearly 1,000 mph, granting each side a clear, albeit fleeting, view of the opposing jet. Both fighter pilots banked hard, each trying to maneuver into position first and stay there long enough to make the other one fall victim to an air-to-air missile or a volley of cannon rounds.

The MiG went nose-high, its pilot relying on the Fulcrum’s superior thrust-to-weight ratio to vertically outrun the Hornet. Anticipating this, Shipley had pulled the Hornet’s nose up and torqued the jet inside the trajectory of the MiG, a maneuver generating 6.8 Gs. Fifteen seconds and two high-G turns later, with the tail of the MiG directly ahead and the distinctive squeal in his headset telling him the infrared seeker in one of the Hornet’s missiles had a lock, Shipley squeezed a red trigger on his control stick, sending a signal to fire. Forty-five seconds into the engagement, the Hornet’s mission computer confirmed a simulated kill.

Later that day, Shipley and Archibald met up with the MiG pilot, Major Ahmad Khusairi bin Ahmad Fadli, in an air-conditioned briefing room at Malaysia’s Kuantan Air Base, about 150 miles east of Kuala Lumpur. While the three aviators discussed the day’s mission and analyzed data from the two aircraft’s computers, the F/A-18 and the single-seat MiG-29 were prepped for the next day’s training flight.

For three weeks each summer, in an exercise known as Air Warrior, the aviators of a Marine Corps Hornet squadron duel with the fighter pilots of the Royal Malaysian Air Force, the only MiG-equipped foreign air force that Marine aviators train with overseas on an annual basis. Accompanying the Hornets to Kuantan Air Base are elements of a C-130J Super Hercules transport and inflight refueling squadron, part of an air controller squadron, and logistics support personnel. Each year a different Hornet fighter squadron arrives in Malaysia for the exercise; last year, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (All Weather) 225, based at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar near San Diego, California, was chosen to participate.

The U.S. aviators come to Kuantan realizing that because they fly more often than the Malaysians, they are more seasoned, particularly since almost all have actual combat experience. But Air Warrior focuses on air superiority sorties, which the Marine pilots have typically flown only against other U.S. aviators and aircraft. “I’ve trained against Air Force F-16s, F-15s, even the F-22 Raptor, but this is the first time with the Fulcrum,” says Shipley, the executive officer of 225 and a former Blue Angels demonstration pilot. “It is just a phenomenal experience for us to see how a MiG actually performs.” The experience might one day be critical for U.S. pilots, given that the MiG-29 is flown by various U.S. adversaries, including Syria, Iran, Cuba, and North Korea.

Air Warrior, however, is far more than a tactical exercise involving the forces of two friendly nations. The South China Sea is a region where the United States might engage an enemy in a future conflict, so it pays for the military to build allies there—the facet of Air Warrior that will pay the biggest long-term dividends. “By deploying to Malaysia, operating there, and then redeploying there, year after year, we’re not only honing our skill-sets used in that particular exercise, but building and bolstering our relationships in that part of the world,” says Lieutenant Colonel Rob Scott, chief of the future operations group at the Pentagon’s Plans, Policies, and Operations Department for the Marine Corps.

The U.S. ground crews assigned to Air Warrior must prepare for a challenging tour of duty at Kuantan Air Base. Because there were no hangars available to the U.S. maintenance crews, they had to work outside in oppressive heat and humidity. Each day began early, with the maintenance teams wiping thick beads of dew from the Hornets’ canopies. By 9:30 each morning on the flightline, every crew member’s olive drab T-shirt was soaked with sweat. By noon, the pounding sun had driven all but a few crew members into the shade. “One of the things the staff had to look out for was to make sure the maintainers didn’t become heat casualties—that they constantly were drinking water,” says Sergeant Major Ron Halcovich. “The maintainers, once they get working, will forget about everything else that is going on around them.” Fortunately, during the three weeks of Air Warrior, there were no heat casualties.

“This is comparatively an austere environment,” says Major Peter McArdle, 225’s maintenance officer. “It is more austere than Iraq, for instance, in terms of services available and conditions.” McArdle explains that air bases in Iraq, such as Al Asad, which is controlled by U.S. forces, are essentially kept to the same standards as those in the States. “Training in an austere environment is good for the Marines to learn how to operate with limited parts support, limited ground support, smaller ramp space than they’re used to,” says McArdle.

One of the greatest hazards for the Hornets during Air Warrior came from a virtually invisible source: FOD—foreign object debris. A close inspection of the Kuantan flightline reveals chunks of broken concrete every few feet. Most of the pieces are pebble size, but even a paper clip, if sucked into an intake, can destroy the turbine blades of a Hornet’s engines, grounding the craft. Each day of Air Warrior, the Marines spent time doing “FOD sweeps,” shoulder-to-shoulder walks to scan the pavement for debris.

MiG-29s, on the other hand, have special engine intake louvers that block foreign objects, so the Malaysians don’t rank FOD removal nearly as high in priority as U.S. aviation units do.

In Air Warrior engagements, each side consists of one to three aircraft; sometimes the two sides are equally matched and sometimes they are lopsided, with one aircraft, for example, trying to defend itself against two opponents. Regardless of the number of aircraft, all engagements begin the same: After takeoff, the MiGs and Hornets climb to 15,000 feet. Traveling at 350 knots (about 400 mph), they maintain a separation from each other of about a mile. The agreed-upon “hard deck” lies 5,000 feet above ground level; if a fighter flies below 5,000 feet, it has “crashed.” The two sides split, and once out of visual range, the high-G dance begins: Each turns toward the other, with each pilot trying to get a tactical advantage over the other, putting his aircraft in position to fire its weapons. (The U.S. fighters are equipped with Sidewinder missiles stripped of motors and warheads. The MiGs are flying “slick,” without their usual array of air-to-air missiles.)

While each engagement evolves uniquely, both sides follow the same approach: Work the aircraft for all of its advantages over the other, and try to deny the opponent from working his advantages over you. Since the MiG-29 and F/A-18 are fairly evenly matched, victory usually boils down to pilot skill.

“The Americans have better radar, better weapons, so we try to get in close,” says Major Patricia Yapp Syau Yin of the Malaysian air force, recounting a one-on-one engagement she had against a Hornet. “Try to defeat their radar capabilities by doing aggressive moves—zooming in. We have to try to roll in behind them, not roll in front of them. Weapon-wise, software-wise, they are one up. But power-wise, we are one up.” The MiG-29N that the Malaysians fly has a top speed of Mach 2.3 and a climb rate of 65,000 feet per minute; the F/A-18D’s maximum speed is Mach 1.8 with a climb rate of 50,000 feet per minute. The Hornet, however, is a more maneuverable aircraft, with a fly-by-wire control system and more advanced avionics and cockpit displays.

Captain Matt Wieand, a Hornet pilot who flew against Syau Yin, says: “You make the turn in and come into the merge, and you feel the adrenaline. It is like a high-speed chess game, and a little like a dance, that ultimately is all about energy management. You assess the MiG’s status, and if you misjudge the MiG’s energy state or its pilot’s options, you can get killed. You can trade potential energy [altitude] for kinetic energy [speed], and you always have to be thinking ahead. In this business, airspeed is life.”

Just minutes after training to shoot down one another, the MiGs and Hornets fly side by side, refueling. With a para-drogue-tipped fuel hose coursing behind the two refueling pods of a KC-130J Super Hercules, an F/A-18 and a MiG each plug in to refuel, with less than 50 feet separating the tips of the fighters’ wings. Each Hornet fluidly connects to the fuel line; the MiGs, however, which have been retrofitted with NATO standard fueling probes, have a tougher time, though after a few jabs, most of them eventually succeed. “This was my first time [refueling during Air Warrior]—not that good an experience,” says Major Nasruddin Khalid. “I plug in, and the hose disconnected. I tried twice until I reach my bingo fuel, then came back alone.”

Major Josh Vance, the operations officer of the refueling squadron, points out that during some missions, three Hornets and three MiGs were flying just yards from one another off the rear of the tanker while awaiting clearance to connect to the fuel hoses. Tight formation flying, the MiG pilots’ unfamiliarity with the KC-130J and the turbulence patterns generated by its six-blade propellers, and language issues (all Malaysian pilots speak English, but many have strong accents) make for an environment where a mishap—even a disaster—can happen in a fraction of a second.

But in the midst of the high-risk training and detailed coordination of aircraft and ground crews, the Malaysian and American aviators find common ground. “We talk the same language,” says Major Sebastian William of the Malaysian air force, referring to “pilot speak.” “Whatever we talk about is understood by both parties.”

“You have your comedians, your jokers,” says Marine Corps Major Chad Sund. “You have two groups of people who grew up in different cultures, but there are so many similarities.”

By the end of Air Warrior, the Marines had won virtually all of the air-to-air fights (with a few draws). But the Malaysians say they appreciate even the losses. “Every year we learn something new from the Americans,” says Major William. “With the limited number of assets, we can train only so much. Everything that we can take from the Americans, we will take.” The Hornet pilots too value the experience. “Training here is looked at the same way as training back in the States,” says Peter McArdle. “It doesn’t matter if we ‘killed’ everybody. We evaluate how we did and try to determine if and how we could do it better next time.”

Though he has more than 2,000 hours in the Hornet, Shipley was grateful for the opportunity to rack up more air time. “It’s as real as it can get without an AIM-9 actually coming off the rail,” he says. “I was excited. The guy I fought was actually pretty experienced. He was [call sign] Taro. We’re more experienced than [the Malaysian pilots], as we do a lot more practice. But Taro did a lot of out-of-plane maneuvering, not often seen from the Malaysian pilots. He was really good.” Shipley hopes to participate in a future Air Warrior.

“These exercises are tremendously valuable,” says retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, a global military strategist and author. “They strengthen alliances at both the political and practical levels, but they also allow us to identify and address a wide range of problems in interoperability, from fuel nozzle mismatches to radio incompatibilities—the sort of down-and-dirty details that can make a huge difference in a period of crisis. Human relationships remain critical in 21st century warfare, and these exercises do at least as much to build trust between individuals as they do to rehearse common flight procedures.”

The learning and bond-building will continue, but—starting this year—with new equipment: The Malaysians are replacing their MiG-29s with the newer, more advanced Sukhoi Su-30, a fighter/attack aircraft flown by a number of countries, including some with which the United States has had tense relations (China and Venezuela). While Malaysia is officially neutral, it certainly leans toward friendly these days—due in large measure to Air Warrior.

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Hornet v. MiG
U.S. Marine aviators to Malaysian MiG pilots: Show us what you got.
By Ed Darack

Nearly three miles above the turquoise waters of the South China Sea last July, U.S. Marine Lieutenant Colonel Dan Shipley eyed the dim outline of a fast-approaching Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum. Flying with the Royal Malaysian Air Force on a training mission, Shipley had been tracking the MiG by radar from the cockpit of his Boeing F/A-18D Hornet. While Shipley and Captain Justin Archibald, the Hor-net’s weapons and sensors officer, could have tried to simulate firing an air-to-air missile at the MiG from a distance, the war game required that the two confirm with their eyes that the MiG really was a MiG, and not a friendly military aircraft or an unarmed civilian airplane.

The Hornet and MiG rocketed past each other at a combined velocity of nearly 1,000 mph, granting each side a clear, albeit fleeting, view of the opposing jet. Both fighter pilots banked hard, each trying to maneuver into position first and stay there long enough to make the other one fall victim to an air-to-air missile or a volley of cannon rounds.

The MiG went nose-high, its pilot relying on the Fulcrum’s superior thrust-to-weight ratio to vertically outrun the Hornet. Anticipating this, Shipley had pulled the Hornet’s nose up and torqued the jet inside the trajectory of the MiG, a maneuver generating 6.8 Gs. Fifteen seconds and two high-G turns later, with the tail of the MiG directly ahead and the distinctive squeal in his headset telling him the infrared seeker in one of the Hornet’s missiles had a lock, Shipley squeezed a red trigger on his control stick, sending a signal to fire. Forty-five seconds into the engagement, the Hornet’s mission computer confirmed a simulated kill.

Later that day, Shipley and Archibald met up with the MiG pilot, Major Ahmad Khusairi bin Ahmad Fadli, in an air-conditioned briefing room at Malaysia’s Kuantan Air Base, about 150 miles east of Kuala Lumpur. While the three aviators discussed the day’s mission and analyzed data from the two aircraft’s computers, the F/A-18 and the single-seat MiG-29 were prepped for the next day’s training flight.

For three weeks each summer, in an exercise known as Air Warrior, the aviators of a Marine Corps Hornet squadron duel with the fighter pilots of the Royal Malaysian Air Force, the only MiG-equipped foreign air force that Marine aviators train with overseas on an annual basis. Accompanying the Hornets to Kuantan Air Base are elements of a C-130J Super Hercules transport and inflight refueling squadron, part of an air controller squadron, and logistics support personnel. Each year a different Hornet fighter squadron arrives in Malaysia for the exercise; last year, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (All Weather) 225, based at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar near San Diego, California, was chosen to participate.

The U.S. aviators come to Kuantan realizing that because they fly more often than the Malaysians, they are more seasoned, particularly since almost all have actual combat experience. But Air Warrior focuses on air superiority sorties, which the Marine pilots have typically flown only against other U.S. aviators and aircraft. “I’ve trained against Air Force F-16s, F-15s, even the F-22 Raptor, but this is the first time with the Fulcrum,” says Shipley, the executive officer of 225 and a former Blue Angels demonstration pilot. “It is just a phenomenal experience for us to see how a MiG actually performs.” The experience might one day be critical for U.S. pilots, given that the MiG-29 is flown by various U.S. adversaries, including Syria, Iran, Cuba, and North Korea.

Air Warrior, however, is far more than a tactical exercise involving the forces of two friendly nations. The South China Sea is a region where the United States might engage an enemy in a future conflict, so it pays for the military to build allies there—the facet of Air Warrior that will pay the biggest long-term dividends. “By deploying to Malaysia, operating there, and then redeploying there, year after year, we’re not only honing our skill-sets used in that particular exercise, but building and bolstering our relationships in that part of the world,” says Lieutenant Colonel Rob Scott, chief of the future operations group at the Pentagon’s Plans, Policies, and Operations Department for the Marine Corps.

The U.S. ground crews assigned to Air Warrior must prepare for a challenging tour of duty at Kuantan Air Base. Because there were no hangars available to the U.S. maintenance crews, they had to work outside in oppressive heat and humidity. Each day began early, with the maintenance teams wiping thick beads of dew from the Hornets’ canopies. By 9:30 each morning on the flightline, every crew member’s olive drab T-shirt was soaked with sweat. By noon, the pounding sun had driven all but a few crew members into the shade. “One of the things the staff had to look out for was to make sure the maintainers didn’t become heat casualties—that they constantly were drinking water,” says Sergeant Major Ron Halcovich. “The maintainers, once they get working, will forget about everything else that is going on around them.” Fortunately, during the three weeks of Air Warrior, there were no heat casualties.

“This is comparatively an austere environment,” says Major Peter McArdle, 225’s maintenance officer. “It is more austere than Iraq, for instance, in terms of services available and conditions.” McArdle explains that air bases in Iraq, such as Al Asad, which is controlled by U.S. forces, are essentially kept to the same standards as those in the States. “Training in an austere environment is good for the Marines to learn how to operate with limited parts support, limited ground support, smaller ramp space than they’re used to,” says McArdle.

One of the greatest hazards for the Hornets during Air Warrior came from a virtually invisible source: FOD—foreign object debris. A close inspection of the Kuantan flightline reveals chunks of broken concrete every few feet. Most of the pieces are pebble size, but even a paper clip, if sucked into an intake, can destroy the turbine blades of a Hornet’s engines, grounding the craft. Each day of Air Warrior, the Marines spent time doing “FOD sweeps,” shoulder-to-shoulder walks to scan the pavement for debris.

MiG-29s, on the other hand, have special engine intake louvers that block foreign objects, so the Malaysians don’t rank FOD removal nearly as high in priority as U.S. aviation units do.

In Air Warrior engagements, each side consists of one to three aircraft; sometimes the two sides are equally matched and sometimes they are lopsided, with one aircraft, for example, trying to defend itself against two opponents. Regardless of the number of aircraft, all engagements begin the same: After takeoff, the MiGs and Hornets climb to 15,000 feet. Traveling at 350 knots (about 400 mph), they maintain a separation from each other of about a mile. The agreed-upon “hard deck” lies 5,000 feet above ground level; if a fighter flies below 5,000 feet, it has “crashed.” The two sides split, and once out of visual range, the high-G dance begins: Each turns toward the other, with each pilot trying to get a tactical advantage over the other, putting his aircraft in position to fire its weapons. (The U.S. fighters are equipped with Sidewinder missiles stripped of motors and warheads. The MiGs are flying “slick,” without their usual array of air-to-air missiles.)

While each engagement evolves uniquely, both sides follow the same approach: Work the aircraft for all of its advantages over the other, and try to deny the opponent from working his advantages over you. Since the MiG-29 and F/A-18 are fairly evenly matched, victory usually boils down to pilot skill.

“The Americans have better radar, better weapons, so we try to get in close,” says Major Patricia Yapp Syau Yin of the Malaysian air force, recounting a one-on-one engagement she had against a Hornet. “Try to defeat their radar capabilities by doing aggressive moves—zooming in. We have to try to roll in behind them, not roll in front of them. Weapon-wise, software-wise, they are one up. But power-wise, we are one up.” The MiG-29N that the Malaysians fly has a top speed of Mach 2.3 and a climb rate of 65,000 feet per minute; the F/A-18D’s maximum speed is Mach 1.8 with a climb rate of 50,000 feet per minute. The Hornet, however, is a more maneuverable aircraft, with a fly-by-wire control system and more advanced avionics and cockpit displays.

Captain Matt Wieand, a Hornet pilot who flew against Syau Yin, says: “You make the turn in and come into the merge, and you feel the adrenaline. It is like a high-speed chess game, and a little like a dance, that ultimately is all about energy management. You assess the MiG’s status, and if you misjudge the MiG’s energy state or its pilot’s options, you can get killed. You can trade potential energy [altitude] for kinetic energy [speed], and you always have to be thinking ahead. In this business, airspeed is life.”

Just minutes after training to shoot down one another, the MiGs and Hornets fly side by side, refueling. With a para-drogue-tipped fuel hose coursing behind the two refueling pods of a KC-130J Super Hercules, an F/A-18 and a MiG each plug in to refuel, with less than 50 feet separating the tips of the fighters’ wings. Each Hornet fluidly connects to the fuel line; the MiGs, however, which have been retrofitted with NATO standard fueling probes, have a tougher time, though after a few jabs, most of them eventually succeed. “This was my first time [refueling during Air Warrior]—not that good an experience,” says Major Nasruddin Khalid. “I plug in, and the hose disconnected. I tried twice until I reach my bingo fuel, then came back alone.”

Major Josh Vance, the operations officer of the refueling squadron, points out that during some missions, three Hornets and three MiGs were flying just yards from one another off the rear of the tanker while awaiting clearance to connect to the fuel hoses. Tight formation flying, the MiG pilots’ unfamiliarity with the KC-130J and the turbulence patterns generated by its six-blade propellers, and language issues (all Malaysian pilots speak English, but many have strong accents) make for an environment where a mishap—even a disaster—can happen in a fraction of a second.

But in the midst of the high-risk training and detailed coordination of aircraft and ground crews, the Malaysian and American aviators find common ground. “We talk the same language,” says Major Sebastian William of the Malaysian air force, referring to “pilot speak.” “Whatever we talk about is understood by both parties.”

“You have your comedians, your jokers,” says Marine Corps Major Chad Sund. “You have two groups of people who grew up in different cultures, but there are so many similarities.”

By the end of Air Warrior, the Marines had won virtually all of the air-to-air fights (with a few draws). But the Malaysians say they appreciate even the losses. “Every year we learn something new from the Americans,” says Major William. “With the limited number of assets, we can train only so much. Everything that we can take from the Americans, we will take.” The Hornet pilots too value the experience. “Training here is looked at the same way as training back in the States,” says Peter McArdle. “It doesn’t matter if we ‘killed’ everybody. We evaluate how we did and try to determine if and how we could do it better next time.”

Though he has more than 2,000 hours in the Hornet, Shipley was grateful for the opportunity to rack up more air time. “It’s as real as it can get without an AIM-9 actually coming off the rail,” he says. “I was excited. The guy I fought was actually pretty experienced. He was [call sign] Taro. We’re more experienced than [the Malaysian pilots], as we do a lot more practice. But Taro did a lot of out-of-plane maneuvering, not often seen from the Malaysian pilots. He was really good.” Shipley hopes to participate in a future Air Warrior.

“These exercises are tremendously valuable,” says retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, a global military strategist and author. “They strengthen alliances at both the political and practical levels, but they also allow us to identify and address a wide range of problems in interoperability, from fuel nozzle mismatches to radio incompatibilities—the sort of down-and-dirty details that can make a huge difference in a period of crisis. Human relationships remain critical in 21st century warfare, and these exercises do at least as much to build trust between individuals as they do to rehearse common flight procedures.”

The learning and bond-building will continue, but—starting this year—with new equipment: The Malaysians are replacing their MiG-29s with the newer, more advanced Sukhoi Su-30, a fighter/attack aircraft flown by a number of countries, including some with which the United States has had tense relations (China and Venezuela). While Malaysia is officially neutral, it certainly leans toward friendly these days—due in large measure to Air Warrior.

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auww smokey lose..  sad.gif
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rilek le abang TGB, ni tahun bila punya nih, yang main ni suma era budak2 cycle 2, takde Ace mau pun Mav punya geng
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SOS link is dated 2009.
dah la 5 tahun punya cerita.
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Jan 26 2014, 12:24 PM)
SOS link is dated 2009.
dah la 5 tahun punya cerita.
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deyy deyy citer thread mrsm xpyh bwk sini la deyy..haha sori la slowpoke..baru baca la..din notice the year until yesterday..  biggrin.gif
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tara apa lahh

ei abang senior ni garang lah
nak masuk fellow bulleh
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Tension with OZ escalates as RI deploys warships
By Bagus BT Saragih and Ina Parlina | 23 January 2014 Thursday | 9:35 AM

With Canberra pressing ahead with its hard-line policy of turning back asylum seekers to Indonesian waters, Jakarta told its neighbor on Wednesday the policy could lead to violations of Indonesia’s sovereignty and that it had increased security on its borders to prevent incursions.

A number of Indonesian Navy warships have been deployed and four Air Force defense radars have been programmed to closely monitor the southern border, military officials told The Jakarta Post on Wednesday.

“We are watching four radars in Timika, Merauke [in Papua], Saumlaki [Maluku] and Buraen [East Nusa Tenggara], which all face Australia,” Air Force chief spokesman Air Commodore Hadi Tjahjanto said.

“If we notice any border violations, our air base in Makassar will be ready. Australia is reachable from there.” Hadi was referring to the Sultan Hasanuddin Air Force Base in the South Sulawesi provincial capital, which is the base of the 11th squadron, consisting of 16 Russian-made Sukhoi Su-27/30 Flankers.

The Flankers have a maximum range of some 3,000 kilometers. The sea border lies some 1,000 km from Makassar. At Mach 1, or the speed of sound, the Flankers would reach the border in little over an hour.

Navy chief spokesman Commodore Untung Suropati confirmed that a number of warships had moved toward the Australian border. He said these included frigates, fast torpedo craft (KCT), fast missile craft (KCR) and corvettes as well as maritime patrol aircraft. He declined to reveal the precise number and location of the assets.

“All the ships are on the move, patrolling the waters,” he said.

Tension between the two neighbors reached a new height Wednesday after Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that stopping the boats was “a matter of sovereignty” and Jakarta should understand Canberra was taking the issue seriously.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who suspended cooperation with Australia following allegations that it attempted to spy on him and members of his inner circle, skipped the Davos meeting to oversee the handling of recent nationwide flooding and the eruption of the Mount Sinabung volcano.

Abbott’s statement came only days after Australia admitted that its naval ships had entered Indonesian waters. It later apologized to Indonesia for the incursion.

Political, Legal and Security Affairs Minister Djoko Suyanto said it was Australia that should respect Indonesia’s sovereignty, “which was violated by the Australian navy.”

“Asylum seekers that have entered a country, including Australia, must be managed according to the UN Convention on Refugees,” he asserted in a written statement.

Australia is a signatory to the convention. He added that the country concerned must also handle the problem in cooperation with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) or the International Organization for Migration (IOM).

Yudhoyono’s foreign affairs spokesman Teuku Faizasyah said, “A violation of our national territory for any reason cannot be tolerated.”

“If Prime Minister Abbott asks President Yudhoyono and the Indonesian people to understand Australia’s seriousness with regards to its sovereignty, in the same vein, Indonesia also asks Australia to understand our firm commitment to our vital interests.”

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Ehh...

What's the story here?

Yahoo News: China Deploys ships near Malaysian Waters

Any thoughts on this matter?

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What's the story here?
Yahoo News: China Deploys ships near Malaysian Waters
Any thoughts on this matter?
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These same group of ships also practiced landings in Paracel Islands with Vietnam watching.
[Chinese ships leave Paracel Islands after landing drills]

Usually patrols like this don't warrant any military or political response, and they do it all the time,
Not until they build something on top of it, then it's show time!
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I like the way they claim so far away from mainland, is like malaysia suddenly claim an isle near PNG as our own..... sleep.gif
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80km from miri. of my.. why we no attack like command and conquer.
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for more tactical, send hornets as bait, while they're distracted by the hornets..scorpenes can easily fire torpedo on them..btw what is that china's heli? looks big.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 26 2014, 10:03 PM)
Ehh...

What's the story here?

Yahoo News: China Deploys ships near Malaysian Waters

Any thoughts on this matter?
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i also digging news about this…any other source?been searching in real world issue subforrum also
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Two of the three corvettes photographed at Barrow on 23rd January 2014 looking more like warships now that the Oto Melara 76mm gun main armament has been refitted.


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Nakhoda Ragman Corvettes Being Prepared for Indonesian Navy

25 January 2014 by David Billinge

The end of January saw the 19-tonne Oto Melara 76mm gun turrets being refitted to the three Nakhoda Ragam class corvettes which have been stored in Barrow since 2007 as part of the preparations for their transfer to the Indonesian Navy.

The three corvettes KDB 'Nakhoda Ragam', KDB 'Bendhara Sakam' and KDB 'Jerambak' have been acquired by the Indonesian government from Brunei for the Indonesian Navy.

Brunei originally ordered the vessels in 1995, but refused to take delivery of the vessels in 2002, the contractual dispute was settled by arbitration in 2007 in favor of BAE systems and three ships where handed over to Brunei.

The three vessels where then moved to Barrow, where they have been maintained by James Fisher Marine Services, under contract to the German Lürssen shipyard, who had been contracted by Brunei, to build three Darussalam class OPV and four Ijtihad class corvettes for the Brunei Navy as a replacement for the non-delivered Nakhoda Ragam class corvettes.

It is understood that Indonesia has paid just a fifth of the original £600m value of the three vessels which are now expected to become operational with the Indonesian Navy during 2014.


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 26 2014, 10:03 PM)
Ehh...

What's the story here?

Yahoo News: China Deploys ships near Malaysian Waters

Any thoughts on this matter?
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dun worry. Instead of taking a unified ASEAN stand against China's aggresive move into south china sea, Malaysia have decided to more 'China-friendly"..
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for more tactical, send hornets as bait, while they're distracted by the hornets..scorpenes can easily fire torpedo on them..btw what is that china's heli? looks big..  hmm.gif
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We'll avoid any means of military action with China.... they are more more superior. We just show our presence to maintain soverignity while they show their presence to claim soverignity.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 01:47 AM)
for more tactical, send hornets as bait, while they're distracted by the hornets..scorpenes can easily fire torpedo on them..btw what is that china's heli? looks big..  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 27 2014, 09:34 AM)
We'll avoid any means of military action with China.... they are more more superior. We just show our presence to maintain soverignity while they show their presence to claim soverignity.
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true true..jgn dijolok sarang tebuan..

anyway maybe our country's ahlil nujum figures that China, not the US, will be the number 1 superpower in 10 years time
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...should send PASKAL to the James shoal..station there...buat mcm pulau layang-layang...or hantar mig buat fly pass/buzz kat kapal tu kasi ajar sikit jangan senang2 masuk rumah orang..hhuhuhuhuhuu
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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Jan 27 2014, 10:23 AM)
...should send PASKAL to the James shoal..station there...buat mcm pulau layang-layang...or hantar mig buat fly pass/buzz kat kapal tu kasi ajar sikit jangan senang2 masuk rumah orang..hhuhuhuhuhuu
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Shoal are not an island. Most of the time, James Shoal submerge under the water. Only surface few hour on super low tide.

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100% price escalation on Rafale fighter aircraft to Rs 1.75 lakh crore likely to dent IAF's strike capability

Sunday, Jan 26, 2014, 7:02 IST | Place: New Delhi | Agency: DNA
Pradip R Sagar 
 
India’s biggest deal of procuring 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) for $18 billion (Rs90,000 crore) has hit rough weather. Two years after French aircraft maker Dassault Aviation bagged the deal for its Rafale fighter jets on account of being the lowest bidder, its cost has now shot up by 100 per cent.

In January 2012, when Rafale was declared the winner, its price was quoted between $60-65 million (Rs373-Rs400 crore). A top defence ministry official said the price of a fighter jet made by Dassault could now cost $120 million (Rs746 crore). The second bidder, Eurofighter, had quoted $80-85 million (Rs497-Rs528 crore).

The price hike would mean that the deal would cost India nothing less than $28-30 billion (Rs1.75 lakh crore-Rs1.86 lakh crore),” said an Indian Air Force (IAF) official, who is privy to discussions of the cost negotiation committee.

The defence ministry headed by AK Antony has developed cold feet after the cost doubled compared to the original estimate. With the general elections just months away, Antony is unsure about the fate of the deal, a defence ministry official said. “As the negotiations continue, the cost is spiralling out of hand. It is a major worry,” he said.

An IAF official said that in 2007, when the tender was floated, the cost of the programme was $12 billion (Rs42,000 crore). When the lowest bidder was declared in January 2012, the cost of the deal shot up to $18 billion (Rs90,000 crore).

Eighteen of the 126 planes will be purchased directly from Dassault, while Hindustan Aeronautics Limited will manufacture the other 108 under a licence, at an upcoming facility in Bangalore.

The IAF, which is fighting its depleting combat strength, was banking on Rafale as this was going to be the force’s leading fighter plane for the next four decades. “With chances of the MMRCA deal getting inked appearing dim, there seems to be no

solution to the immediate problem of shrinking squadron numbers as existing aircraft are forced into retirement,” said another IAF official.

The air force is seeking to replace its ageing MiG-21s with a modern fighter and MMRCA fits between India’s high-end Sukhoi-30MKIs and its low-end Tejas LCA lightweight fighter. The IAF has a sanctioned strength of 45 fighter jet squadrons. However, it only has 30 squadrons operational as old aircraft have been retired.


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Shoal are not an island. Most of the time, James Shoal submerge under the water. Only surface few hour on super low tide.
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..ya i know it a shoal...it doesn't stop us to to build Station Lima right??same like layang2...
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..ya i know it a shoal...it doesn't stop us to to build Station Lima right??same like layang2...
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22m underwater when sink. how many tons of granite or concrete you think we need to build a structure/shelter?
Station Lima is a coral atoll and above the sea level all the time.

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Sunday, January 26, 2014

India's Arjun Mk.II Debuts At Republic Day 2014

The Arjun Mk.II main battle tank made its debut at India's 65th Republic Day Parade today. Incorporating over seventy improvements over the Arjun Mk.I, the improved variant is in a final phase (hopefully) of user trials, according to the DRDO. In a statement put out yesterday, the DRDO stated, "Arjun Mark II incorporates enhanced firepower with Automated Target Tracking and greater variety of ammunition including Gun-fired anti-tank missile and the devastating Thermobaric ammunition; enhanced protection that include Explosive Reactive Armor, Laser Warning come Countermeasure System, a Mine Plough, a Remotely operable Anti-Aircraft weapon, a Roof mounted driving seat; Advanced Land Navigation System and Enhanced night vision capabilities."


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We'll avoid any means of military action with China.... they are more more superior. We just show our presence to maintain soverignity while they show their presence to claim soverignity.
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i know..i know..just my strategy..lel..but if this dispute still not settle, then when will any of us (countries that claims sovereignity in the islands) going to explore the rich natural gas and petroleum in the spratlys? sad.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 12:05 PM)
i know..i know..just my strategy..lel..but if this dispute still not settle, then when will any of us (countries that claims sovereignity in the islands) going to explore the rich natural gas and petroleum in the spratlys?  sad.gif
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the best deal you can hope for is to cooperate with china and do joint venture.

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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 11:36 AM)
More like "PENGECUT" much.

WW3 in 2015 is 100% Guarantee !! I be ready.
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sapa cakap? john titor ke? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

we are taking a more pragmatic approach with China..they are our closet superpower and will overtake US in economy within a decade and military in 15 years..
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 12:33 PM)
Even superpower need oil to run their engine of mass destruction. So now claiming the SEA waters .. what can Malaysia do ? Nak mintak duit royalty from China for taking their oil ?? Ada biji ke ?? Or just yak yak yak about maintaining their ketuanan melayu more than the region security itself.
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you arr really need to study a bit about international relations, dasar luar negara malaysia..
we will not provoke china and start a war, that's against our policy
we will continue to object china's breaching our sovereignty
befriend to China will be more benefiting than against them
even if the whole SEA joint forces, still can't outmatch the number in China's South Sea Fleet
imo, a cooperation should be created with China to explore the rich oil in spratlys via joint venture
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 01:03 PM)
Heloooo ~~ REality check .. they already did breach our sovereignty. For China, Action is more powerful than words. Mana Bijan buat bising? Mana ATM ? Why did they not deploy our Navy just to see their Military at sea?
Is That million dollar Subs is just for show, nothing more.
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FYI, our scorpene always on duty in the area..watching very silently..
during ops daulat, china ships retreat from the area quickly after knowing scorpene is in the area..
which might explain why they brought 3 ASW helicopter now

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 27 2014, 12:20 PM)
sapa cakap? john titor ke?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

we are taking a more pragmatic approach with China..they are our closet superpower and will overtake US in economy within a decade and military in 15 years..
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What to say....military expert. Even we at mindef cant predict that... btw, we are not pengecut. Just to save everybody including publics. If war with China...its finish. Dont provoke...our action is based on self defense.
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 01:03 PM)
Heloooo ~~ REality check .. they already did breach our sovereignty. For China, Action is more powerful than words. Mana Bijan buat bising? Mana ATM ? Why did they not deploy our Navy just to see their Military at sea?
Is That million dollar Subs is just for show, nothing more.
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Good judgement from keyboard warrior.... are u the one to be sent if crisis happen?? Who said no action from us?? Ops has been established there...but we still remain neutral. We know the disaster...we already simulate various scenarios in CBT thru JMAP. U know the result right...

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 27 2014, 01:28 PM)
Good judgement from keyboard warrior.... are u the one to be sent if crisis happen?? Who said no action from us?? Ops has been established there...but we still remain neutral. We know the disaster...we already simulate various scenarios in CBT thru JMAP.  U know the result right...
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LTZ bro..navy ada arah hantar subs pegi scout kapal china tuh tak? smile.gif
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LTZ bro..navy ada arah hantar subs pegi scout kapal china tuh tak?  smile.gif
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Dlm forum lain mentioned...kenapa baru sedar hal ni, nape x intercept awal2... jawapan dia, we have been shadowing their ships long2 time ago since their claim. We maintain our ships incl sub 24hrs within visual range. Nape tak intercept?? When u intercept u provoke them...our policy clear, neutral... maintain diplomacy. Act only self defense. This story baru discover la... benda dah lama. TLDM & TUDM know what to do.... ade plak org nk ajar ape nk buat. As usual mindef maintain silent all the time.
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 01:39 PM)
When Sulu people go to Sabah .. got simulate they start war is it ? No .. kasih minum teh and kopi and proclaim them not a threat and terrorist. Last-last.. kena pakai jet to drop bomb, and call in battalionss of ATM on them cause cant handle the 300 Suluk Sparta who start the shooting first. 

Your simulation suck banana.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 27 2014, 09:10 AM)
dun worry. Instead of taking a unified ASEAN stand against China's aggresive move into south china sea, Malaysia have decided to more 'China-friendly"..
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Realisticly, our options are very limited. ASEAN is a joke. and forming an ASEAN military alliance is as near to impossible as you can get. Asking the west for help mean's they will ask something of us in return, and most probably it'll be more then we can afford.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 27 2014, 01:44 PM)
Dlm forum lain mentioned...kenapa baru sedar hal ni, nape x intercept awal2... jawapan dia, we have been shadowing their ships long2 time ago since their claim. We maintain our ships incl sub 24hrs within visual range. Nape tak intercept?? When u intercept u provoke them...our policy clear, neutral... maintain diplomacy. Act only self defense. This story baru discover la... benda dah lama. TLDM & TUDM know what to do.... ade plak org nk ajar ape nk buat. As usual mindef maintain silent all the time.
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i knew it..our armed forces alredy act.. notworthy.gif
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i knew it..our armed forces alredy act..  notworthy.gif
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But some forumer stupid enough by hoping us to sink PLAN ship by submarine.
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But some forumer stupid enough by hoping us to sink PLAN ship by submarine.
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usual..they really need to open their Pengajian Malaysia book and read the Dasar Luar Negara chapter
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usual..they really need to open their Pengajian Malaysia book and read the Dasar Luar Negara chapter
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For what? They already lost some common sense. laugh.gif
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some1 try to act smart but dun even know how to evaluate the conditions and sum up best stratergy to ensure our interest is protected.
One must know what we are lacking and what we are good at; using it wisely to the odds into our favor.

#Yinchet 27/1/2014. tongue.gif

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dat SAM and ASM range though ohmy.gif
are they that close to sarawak?

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80km (or is it nautical miles?) from sarawak shore, too close imo.
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QUOTE(lulz @ Jan 27 2014, 02:12 PM)
80km (or is it nautical miles?) from sarawak shore, too close imo.
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are they that close to sarawak?
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Not up to scale...
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order la dulu land-based mobile supersonic anti-ship missiles from Russia.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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lel, diorang dah lama buat moves mcm ni, kenapa boleh huha sampai masuk yahoo news,
is that this is the farthest their so called "patrol" goes to claim their sovereignity

The same group also practiced landing kat paracel island with vietnam watching, no international news pun.
Only pinoy media pick that up, and if you follow history vietnam should response with blood even!

We dun make noise, but we got the arms to sink their ships
While pinoy protest all the time, they can't even put a decent ship or planes to counter anything!
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don't feed the dupe troll

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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 03:10 PM)
Dah kalah .. request barrage from a cheap fag .. Your military intel is that weak till dupe can unleash load of info on how weak is Malaysian military compare to China military.
  

ALL HAIL CHINA !! NEW GOVERNMENT OF SABAH AND SARAWAK !!!
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..what info? you're very slowpoke one...other people already know about it...
..if Malaysia is so weak then why send so called 'advance ship' just to patrol here???

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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 03:10 PM)
Dah kalah .. request barrage from a cheap fag .. Your military intel is that weak till dupe can unleash load of info on how weak is Malaysian military compare to China military.
 

ALL HAIL CHINA !! NEW GOVERNMENT OF SABAH AND SARAWAK !!!
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Thanks for ur support.... b4 new govn is built in sabah & sarawak, everything jd padang jarak padang terkukur dulu... and not to forget semenanjung as well. I know u are monitoring this to prepare to buy flight ticket to fly somewhere.
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 04:00 PM)
Nope .. i am waiting for a new red flag to appear and breathe a new ideology as Sabah and Sarawak will welcome the new lords while seeing the fall of Semenanjung state. China don't need to attack Semenanjung.. they just leave it to PERKASA extremist to do it for them. Molotov cocktail anyone ??  whistling.gif
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Ok...understood again with ur level. So as some said...dont feed the troll. Buang masa layan hang...ingt boleh share infos.
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QUOTE(MAD GOD @ Jan 27 2014, 04:00 PM)
Nope .. i am waiting for a new red flag to appear and breathe a new ideology as Sabah and Sarawak will welcome the new lords while seeing the fall of Semenanjung state. China don't need to attack Semenanjung.. they just leave it to PERKASA extremist to do it for them. Molotov cocktail anyone ??  whistling.gif
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haihh what are ur intention by joining this thread if u dun even want to discuss properly..talk about wanting war, balls n stuff but u dun even know a thing about our foreign policy..see, someone bash u a bit n u alredy involve politics..dafaq perkasa have to do with all these..if dun want to discuss properly then gtfo la.. sad.gif
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hai dupe

btw, there's something called "ignore member" in the control panel. turd really don't know what he's talking about. people curse is like a praise to him and his ego.

but what to do, this is /k/ not dedicated military bulletin. so best if use ignore function and be done with it

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Jan 27 2014, 04:26 PM)
hai dupe

btw, there's something called "ignore member" in the control panel. turd really don't know what he's talking about. people curse is like a praise to him and his ego.

but what to do, this is /k/ not dedicated military bulletin. so best if use ignore function and be done with it
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Or could use report button.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 27 2014, 05:36 PM)
Or could use report button.
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ko la buat heheh...aku dah ignore dah mangkuk hayun tersebut

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Jan 27 2014, 04:38 PM)
ko la buat heheh...aku dah ignore dah mangkuk hayun tersebut
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Dah buat dah.
setiap tahun mesti ada budak macam ini.
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This will be the first LHD design where the marines gonna transport using MV22-B Osprey or other helicopter. looks like the days of invasion using LCAC are over.

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This will be the first LHD design where the marines gonna transport using MV22-B Osprey or other helicopter. looks like the days of invasion using LCAC are over.
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Osprey can transport tanks like LCAC?
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This will be the first LHD design where the marines gonna transport using MV22-B Osprey or other helicopter. looks like the days of invasion using LCAC are over.
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Marines still needs LCAC to move their marines and equipment in large number...
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^^^can someone kick out tis joker?

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USS George Washington (CVN 73) Carrier Strike Group formation sails in the Atlantic Ocean. Washington is conducting Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX) in preparation for their upcoming deployment

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^^^can someone kick out tis joker?
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Marsun signs M58 contract with Thai navy, set for more orders in 2014

Mrityunjoy Mazumdar, Alameda, California - IHS Jane's Navy International
23 January 2014

Thai shipbuilder Marsun, which is fast emerging as the pre-eminent supplier of patrol boats to the Royal Thai Navy (RTN), finally signed the long-expected contract for what is likely to be the first of several M58 large patrol boats for the RTN in late 2013.

The M58 will be built at the RTN-owned Thonburi Naval Dockyard with Marsun providing technical assistance, drawings, and the material package. The contract calls for delivery of the patrol vessel within 700 days of contract signing.

The M58 has a length of 58 m, a beam of 9.3 m, and a full load displacement of 520 tons. It is the largest patrol boat to be ordered from Marsun by the RTN to date. It will be powered by three Caterpillar 3516C diesels for a top speed in excess of 24 kt, while its range is 2,500 n miles. Armament comprises a 76/62 Oto Melara main gun, an MSI 30 mm cannon, and two 0.50-calibre heavy machine guns with fire control by a Thales Mirador electro-optic director.

Besides the M58, Marsun is getting ready to launch a trio of M36 patrol boats - T111, T112 and T113 - in mid-February with delivery slated for mid-March. The M36 is an evolution of Marsun's crew boat design. It has a length of 36 m, a beam of 7.6m, and a full load displacement of 140 tons. Powered by three Cummins KTA50 engines, top speed is 27 kt, and range is 1,200 n miles. Armament comprises a 30 mm MSI cannon and two 0.50-calibre heavy machine guns.

Marsun delivered three smaller M21 patrol craft to the RTN's Coast Guard Squadron in 2013 and expects the RTN to order another six in February, a Marsun official told IHS Jane's . However, he said the ongoing political crisis in Thailand could mean a delay of "several months".

The RTN is expected to take delivery of the M21 patrol craft in two batches, with the first batch of three slated for delivery in 24 months and the second within 28 months of contract signing.

Marsun is also building a 63.5 m, 1,250-ton double-hulled oil tanker named Matra (pennant 836) to Bureau Veritas classification rules in conjunction with the RTN-owned Bangkok Dock Company. The keel was laid on 25 May 2012 and delivery is slated for March, according to Marsun. Powered by two Wärtsilä 4L-20 engines, top speed is 12 kt and range is 4,000 n miles at 10 kt.

To date, Marsun has built or is building 28 naval vessels for the RTN, 24 landing craft for the Royal Thai Army and 95 other patrol craft for various Thai government agencies as well as naval vessels for export to Pakistan and Gabon.


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No need reply him.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 04:45 PM)
Osprey can transport tanks like LCAC?
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Marines still needs LCAC to move their marines and equipment in large number...
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They will use san antonio class with the bigger well deck to transpoer their equipments.
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i tot M'sia previously has promised China with Military base in SEA??? and it seems James shoal is a right place... kecoh kecoh bakpo
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i tot M'sia previously has promised China with Military base in SEA??? and it seems James shoal is a right place... kecoh kecoh bakpo
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we did? blink.gif
sos plz~
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yeah, but wouldnt san antionio class be sued when the beach head or port is firmly secured? LCAC needed to transport hardware during battle..
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blush.gif naaah its actually joint exercise between two country navy , but M'sia hasn't decide which place will take place....

and today China gv a signal "we want James shoal"
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The 2nd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment of the Australian Army will be retrained as marines by 2014.

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aha, joint/piggyback procurement.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 27 2014, 04:56 PM)
yeah, but wouldnt san antionio class be sued when the beach head or port is firmly secured? LCAC needed to transport hardware during battle..
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Cutaway illustration of the U.S. Navy's San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock ship (LPD). The amphibious transports are used to transport and land Marines, their equipment, and supplies by embarked air cushion or conventional landing craft or amphibious vehicles, augmented by helicopters or vertical take off and landing aircraft in amphibious assault, special operations, or expeditionary warfare missions.

LCAC also fit into san antonio class, they got bigger well deck compare to USS America which is cater to more aerial invasion.
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Cutaway illustration of the U.S. Navy's San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock ship (LPD). The amphibious transports are used to transport and land Marines, their equipment, and supplies by embarked air cushion or conventional landing craft or amphibious vehicles, augmented by helicopters or vertical take off and landing aircraft in amphibious assault, special operations, or expeditionary warfare missions.

LCAC also fit into san antonio class, they got bigger well deck compare to USS America which is cater to more aerial invasion.
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Malaysian Marines coming soon, bila mau beli ini kapal?
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 27 2014, 05:09 PM)
Malaysian Marines coming soon, bila mau beli ini kapal?
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tapi kapal besar cam ni, malaysia dun have destroyer or frigates to protect it. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

And the cost of the ship is USD1.6billion cry.gif and still exclude those handware inside.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 27 2014, 01:44 PM)
Dlm forum lain mentioned...kenapa baru sedar hal ni, nape x intercept awal2... jawapan dia, we have been shadowing their ships long2 time ago since their claim. We maintain our ships incl sub 24hrs within visual range. Nape tak intercept?? When u intercept u provoke them...our policy clear, neutral... maintain diplomacy. Act only self defense. This story baru discover la... benda dah lama. TLDM & TUDM know what to do.... ade plak org nk ajar ape nk buat. As usual mindef maintain silent all the time.
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http://rentaka.weebly.com/1/post/2014/01/n...ea-islands.html
marine force deme pun ikut sama

QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jan 27 2014, 04:52 PM)
i tot M'sia previously has promised China with Military base in SEA??? and it seems James shoal is a right place... kecoh kecoh bakpo
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Mmg PLAN buat latihan besar-besaran nih
http://rentaka.weebly.com/1/post/2014/01/n...ea-islands.html
marine force deme pun ikut sama
joint ex ada laa, mana ada bagi base  rclxub.gif
kalo itu offer aku mau itu Daring class
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pardon, it's actually joint-ex not military base, but i don't think it's wise decision to make a joint ex wit china navy during turbulence time ,where our close neighbor in SEA really need our support in this critical time
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jan 27 2014, 05:24 PM)
pardon, it's actually joint-ex not military base, but i don't think it's wise decision to make a joint ex wit china navy during turbulence time ,where our close neighbor in SEA really need our support in this critical time
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hmm..let see..

they were never there when we in deep shit back in communist era..they never help us..even some of them scream ganyang back in those days..someone wanna seek possibility to steal sabah from us using 'diplomatic' way..& there's this very 'neutral' fella who didnt care what happen to ASEAN & will just kow-tow to any big-player as long as the big player promise not to disturb their rice bowl..mao pakai wa mia jalan pun takpa, mao bikin itu death rail track pun takpa, janji jgn kacau wa mia nasi

i think this is why we stand on our own way during this critical time...
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asean got socialist, republic, absolute monarchy, junta and republic monarchy. worse mix ever.
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i think this is why we stand on our own way during this critical time...
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but are we strong enough to stand on our own way on this?
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hmm..let see..

they were never there when we in deep shit back in communist era..they never help us..even some of them scream ganyang back in those days..someone wanna seek possibility to steal sabah from us using 'diplomatic' way..& there's this very 'neutral' fella who didnt care what happen to ASEAN & will just kow-tow to any big-player as long as the big player promise not to disturb their rice bowl..mao pakai wa mia jalan pun takpa, mao bikin itu death rail track pun takpa, janji jgn kacau wa mia nasi

i think this is why we stand on our own way during this critical time...
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at wht price? sovereignty? at least we're much stronger thn Philippine n Indonesia until 2013 lol
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jan 27 2014, 05:24 PM)
pardon, it's actually joint-ex not military base, but i don't think it's wise decision to make a joint ex wit china navy during turbulence time ,where our close neighbor in SEA really need our support in this critical time
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I think Malaysia view in this matter is the most diplomatic way
and yes it is kind of pain sometime but it is the safer route
+ Philippines and Vietnam are never consult us about this matter

QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jan 27 2014, 05:34 PM)
asean got socialist, republic, absolute monarchy, junta and republic monarchy. worse mix ever.
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hear hear
but looks like a good mix for a cocktail though!
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Training together to spy/estimate each other preparedness and strong points is normal. Hopefully malaysia can sedut a lot of data from their navy.
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Training together to spy/estimate each other preparedness and strong points  is normal. Hopefully malaysia can sedut a lot of data from their navy.
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but are we strong enough to stand on our own way on this?
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what i mean is to use our own diplomatic way to deal with China

hey, we've been dealing with Brits, Japs, & commies before..experience shud taught us better

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 27 2014, 05:44 PM)
I think Malaysia view in this matter is the most diplomatic way
and yes it is kind of pain sometime but it is the safer route
+ Philippines and Vietnam are never consult us about this matter
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Can't really help it, they had blood spilled ady

If we could build something on top that James shoal, we would decades ago!
unfortunately it's a sandbar at least 15 meters below water..
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 27 2014, 05:48 PM)
what i mean is to use our own diplomatic way to deal with China

hey, we've been dealing with Brits, Japs, & commies before..experience shud taught us better
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Thats what we are doing now... whatever public said askar pengecut or whatsoever.... all of us want that way. We know our strength and our status now is to avoid any use of force....even minimize the presence. Cant reveal much as it still SECRET.....
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Jan 27 2014, 05:38 PM)
at wht price? sovereignty? at least we're much stronger thn Philippine n Indonesia until 2013 lol
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stronger than Philippine, yes, but not Indonesia..i think sooner or later Indonesia will exceed us in defence..they were kinda serious in defence matter recently

big-player always disobey any small fry 'sovereignty'..history has shows us that..for now the most appropriate things to do is diplomatic way, while at the same time preparing our defenses...

but as i see currently, we're very slow in preparing almost everything, while China going full-throttle commissioning their vessels
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 27 2014, 05:55 PM)
stronger than Philippine, yes, but not Indonesia..i think sooner or later Indonesia will exceed us in defence..they were kinda serious in defence matter recently

big-player always disobey any small fry 'sovereignty'..history has shows us that..for now the most appropriate things to do is diplomatic way, while at the same time preparing our defenses...

but as i see currently, we're very slow in preparing almost everything, while China going full-throttle commissioning their vessels
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i think Indo already exceed us..
why arr gov din really pay much attention to defence lately..?
when Najib was defence minister, a lot of defence procurement happened..i thought when he become PM, defence would be much more bolstered.. cry.gif
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at least we're much stronger thn Philippine n Indonesia until 2013 lol
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where did you heard that?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 06:08 PM)
i think Indo already exceed us..
why arr gov din really pay much attention to defence lately..?
when Najib was defence minister, a lot of defence procurement happened..i thought when he become PM, defence would be much more bolstered..  cry.gif
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u tgk la sapa kita punya defence minister

dia masuk jer, apa pun slow, apa pun hancur sad.gif
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at wht price? sovereignty? at least we're much stronger thn Philippine n Indonesia until 2013 lol
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i think until 2011 is more correct..stronger in terms of no. of modern assets..by now Indo has exceed us..but i think we are still stronger than Pinoys.. smile.gif
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u tgk la sapa kita punya defence minister

dia masuk jer, apa pun slow, apa pun hancur  sad.gif
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Looks like TNI-AU likely to choose the Sukhoi Su-35 for the F-5 Tiger replacement.

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TNI Angkatan Udara Pilih Sukhoi Gantikan F-5 Tiger

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Pesawat tempur F-5 Tiger milik TNI Angkatan Udara akan memasuki masa pensiun dan segera dikandangkan tahun ini. Meski begitu, TNI Angkatan Udara maupun Kementerian Pertahanan belum memutuskan pesawat pengganti Tiger. Kepala Staf Angkatan Udara Marsekal Ida Bagus Putu Dunia mengatakan baru membuat kajian soal opsi-opsi pesawat pengganti.

"Kajian tersebut sudah saya kirim ke Menteri Pertahanan dan Markas Besar TNI. Nanti akan diputuskan di sana," kata Putu Dunia kepada wartawan di Markas Besar TNI Angkatan Udara, Cilangkap, Jakarta Timur, Senin, 27 Januari 2014.

Dalam kajian tersebut, TNI Angkatan Udara merekomendasikan sejumlah pesawat tempur canggih pengganti F-5 Tiger. Antara lain pesawat tempur Sukhoi SU-35 buatan Rusia, F-16 Fighting Falcon di atas blok 24 buatan Amerika Serikat, F-15 Strike Eagle buatan Amerika Serikat, atau SAAB Gripen buatan Swedia.

TNI Angkatan Udara juga membuat peringkat dari pesawat-pesawat tersebut sesuai kebutuhan mereka. Pada urutan pertama adalah Sukhoi SU-35, disusul SAAB Gripen, dan terakhir adalah F-15 Strike Eagle. Dengan kata lain, pesawat tempur bikinan Rusia menjadi pilihan utama pengganti F-5 Tiger.

Menurut Putu, ketiga pesawat pengganti itu dipilih karena daya tangkal yang mumpuni, khususnya terhadap negara-negara tetangga. "Termasuk faktor persenjataan, perawatan, dan banyak faktor lain," kata dia.

Putu menginginkan pemerintah segera membeli pesawat tempur pengganti F-5 Tiger pada periode 2015-2019. Idealnya, kebutuhan TNI Angkatan Udara sebanyak 16 unit atau satu skuadron. "Tapi kami kembalikan pada kemampuan keuangan negara," kata dia.

Sebelumnya, Panglima TNI Jenderal Moeldoko menginginkan Sukhoi SU-35 sebagai pengganti F-5 Tiger. Menurut dia, pesawat buatan Rusia itu punya efek gentar yang tinggi di kawasan Asia Tenggara dan Pasifik. Sedangkan Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro ingin Angkatan Udara punya pesawat tempur canggih yang mampu menggendong rudal jarak jauh, seperti Brahmos buatan India.

INDRA WIJAYA


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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 06:27 PM)
haiyaa..susah2 position as defence minister tuh reserve untuk jeneral tentera yg appointed by MKN je la..tak payah kasi kat regular politician..  doh.gif
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Still money control by kewangan... so cant do much. Uniform aku lusuh nk ganti cukup susah...PLKN every intake ade je baju baru.
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Looks like TNI-AU likely to choose the Sukhoi Su-35 for the F-5 Tiger replacement.

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Misleading title, from the article there is no mention of su-35 is chosen, its only the current favourite.

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. Pada urutan pertama adalah Sukhoi SU-35, disusul SAAB Gripen, dan terakhir adalah F-15 Strike Eagle. Dengan kata lain, pesawat tempur bikinan Rusia menjadi pilihan utama pengganti F-5 Tiger.


edit:fuuuggg. Didnt see the likely

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Misleading title, from the article there is no mention of su-35 is chosen, its only the current favourite.
edit:fuuuggg. Didnt see the likely
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That's why i wrote "likely", but it is just a matter of time for TNI-AU to finally choose the Su-35. TNI-AU Chief have sent in his recommendation to the Defence Minister & TNI Headquarter with the number 1 choice is the Su-35 followed by Saab Gripen E/F in second. Besides that the TNI Chief wants the Su-35 & although he did not mentioned the type but the Indonesian Defence Minister also wants an aircraft that could carry the Brahmos missiles.

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 07:27 PM)
haiyaa..susah2 position as defence minister tuh reserve untuk jeneral tentera yg appointed by MKN je la..tak payah kasi kat regular politician..  doh.gif
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minister post must be civilian to maintain civilian control of the military

dun wan junta to take over like the neighbor do
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minister post must be civilian to maintain civilian control of the military

dun wan junta to take over like the neighbor do
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yes i see the purpose..but what to do if the civilian who become the minister doesn't really voice out the military opinions and requests to the parliament? sad.gif
pity to the soldiers like LTZ dun get new uniform..hehe laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:43 PM)
yes i see the purpose..but what to do if the civilian who become the minister doesn't really voice out the military opinions and requests to the parliament?  sad.gif
pity to the soldiers like LTZ dun get new uniform..hehe  laugh.gif
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hence the bureaucracy in the command structure. bureaucracy sound like a bad word but you don't expect him to go to wisma kementah ketuk pejabat Mr Hisham mintak baju baru kan? even in the army the new digital urban delta 3L337 camo will be issued by phases. wait till the old uniform is really write off then give him something new.
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Indonesian Navy receives 37 Russian amphibious tanks

Monday, 27 January 2014, 19:42 WIB

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REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, JAKARTA - Russia handed over 37 amphibious tanks to Indonesian Navy. Indonesian Minister of Defence Purnomo Yusgiantoro received the tanks at Karang Tekok Marine Combat Training Center, Situbondo, East Java, on Monday.

Army chief Gen Moeldoko, Navy chief Admiral Marsetio, Marine Corps Commandant Maj Gen A Faridz Washington and Russian Embassy officials were also present during the ceremony. BMP-3F vehicles were produced by weapon manufacturer, Kurganmashzavod, after Ministries of Defense from both countries signed purchasing agreement. Russia handed 17 BMP-3F tanks on December 11, 2011.

"We must modernize our weapons, including tanks," Army chief Gen Moeldoko said on Monday.

Moeldoko said that the adequate defense equipment was part of self esteem building for soldiers. Using old weapons would only degrade their fighting spirit.


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indonesia really spent a lot. acquired more military stuffs. who are they trying to invade?
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indonesia really spent a lot. acquired more military stuffs. who are they trying to invade?
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indonesia really spent a lot. acquired more military stuffs. who are they trying to invade?
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It's not a matter of planning an invasion or not. Right now they're receiving pressure not just from China like we are. They're also having pressure from the Aussies.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 27 2014, 08:43 PM)
yes i see the purpose..but what to do if the civilian who become the minister doesn't really voice out the military opinions and requests to the parliament?  sad.gif
pity to the soldiers like LTZ dun get new uniform..hehe  laugh.gif
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MoF is the problem here. Read somewhere that TUDM wanted Super Hornet but MoF force them to take su-30, despite the added cost of customizing stock Suks to MKM spec.
Same case with 50M spent on equipment fire department don't want.

having kerismudin as head just make it worse.
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jan 27 2014, 09:24 PM)
MoF is the problem here. Read somewhere that TUDM wanted Super Hornet but MoF force them to take su-30, despite the added cost of customizing stock Suks to MKM spec.
Same case with 50M spent on equipment fire department don't want.

having kerismudin as head just make it worse.
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Why China Wants the Su-35
By Peter Wood | 10 October 2013 Thursday | 04:19 PM

The image below demonstrates the comparative ranges (two way) of Su-27s (thick yellow lines), Su-35s flying on internal fuel (thick red lines) and Su-35s with two drop tanks (thin red lines) flying from two major air bases in China. Note: All distances are estimated combat radii.

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http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=...bd#.UmVxYqNhiK0
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jan 27 2014, 09:24 PM)
MoF is the problem here. Read somewhere that TUDM wanted Super Hornet but MoF force them to take su-30, despite the added cost of customizing stock Suks to MKM spec.
Same case with 50M spent on equipment fire department don't want.

having kerismudin as head just make it worse.
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Pendekar is also not what army want wasn't it? sad.gif
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Pendekar is also not what army want wasn't it?  sad.gif
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I know if S.korea's K2 we must order like a 100 unit, dunno about the T-90 though
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Indonesian Air Force Shortlists Jet Fighters

27 Jan 2014 20:58:41| News in English | Penulis : Supervisor

Jakarta (Antara) - The Indonesian Air Force (TNI AU) has yet to make a decision on the jet fighter that will reportedly replace the outdated F-5 Tiger jet fighter.

"We studied several types of jet planes to find the right jet fighter to replace the F-5 Tiger. We have submitted the study results to Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro and the Indonesian Military Headquarters," Chief of Staff of TNI AU Marshall Ida Bagus Putu Dunia said here on Monday.

Marshall¿s statement came after the TNI AU Officers Meeting and Task Commanders Assembly was opened in the TNI AU Headquarters in Cilangkap Sub-district, E Jakarta.

The Chief said TNI AU has recommended several modern aircraft to the Ministry such as the Sukhoi Su-35 of Russia, the F-16 Fighting Falcon and the F-15 Strike Eagle of the USA and the Swedish SAAB JAS 39 Gripen.

The Chief said the TNI AU has ranked the shortlisted jet planes. "The Sukhoi Su-35 is ranked first, followed by the SAAB JAS 39 Gripen and the F-15 Strike Eagle," stated Ida.

He said the three planes were shortlisted for their proven deterrent power including weaponry, maintenance and maneuvrability.

The TNI AU hopes that the government will purchase the fighter aircraft immediately for the 2015-2019 period to replace the F-5 Tiger.

The Chief said the TNI AU needs at least a squadron or 16 units of the new jet fighters to guard Indonesian airspace.

"However, the purchase depends on the state budget," Marshall added. (*)


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Netherlands Leopard Tank brake test. shocking.gif


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Netherlands Leopard Tank brake test.  shocking.gif
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i will shat brix... shocking.gif
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FUUUuuuuu

if its me i will ammoshaf brick & trus fainted liao
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Pendekar is also not what army want wasn't it?  sad.gif
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QUOTE(acam2812 @ Jan 27 2014, 09:21 PM)
indonesia really spent a lot. acquired more military stuffs. who are they trying to invade?
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It's more because rapid improvement in economic situation, the defense budget is still at 0.8 percent GDP since the 2004.

I think SBY is one of Indonesia's best presidents ever, when he started his administration in 2004, Indonesia's GDP is less than $500 billion and it's already more than $1 trillion in 2014.

TNI's operational budget is about $4 billion each year; but still at 0.8 percent GDP, the defense budget has reached about $8 billion in 2014.

That's why the extra cash is spent to replace old assets like BTR-50, F-5 Tiger, Hawk Mk53 and others.

SBY will no longer be elligible for third election..... so whether the MEF 2024 program is continued could depend on the next president.
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hope indonesia will get another SBY type of president

plis no suharto & hell no sukarno type of president..we dun want 'ganyang malaysia' to go to a new level as china pose a serious threat currently..it will only destroy both malaysia & indonesia
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 28 2014, 01:18 AM)
I think the pendekar is the one deal that kompromi with our demand,
I know if S.korea's K2 we must order like a 100 unit, dunno about the T-90 though
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I don't think it was the K2 but it was the K1 tank with a 105mm gun that was being offered to Malaysia. CMIIW.
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 28 2014, 09:30 AM)
hope indonesia will get another SBY type of president

plis no suharto & hell no sukarno type of president..we dun want 'ganyang malaysia' to go to a new level as china pose a serious threat currently..it will only destroy both malaysia & indonesia
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Yes...he is often criticized internally of being too docile. During his military career, he is seen more as a strategist than a field commander.

I agree that Indonesia shouldn't get Probowo-like president; conflicts will weaken both Malaysia and Indonesia. Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia should have strong relationship due to their malay background. There are not many malays in the world; we should unite.

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Indonesia will purchase up to 70 BTR-4 to replace the ridiculously old BTR-50. The APC is even older than TNI's most senior general. rclxub.gif

http://koarmatim.tnial.mil.id/index.php?op...i-al&Itemid=191

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UAE will purchase thirty F-16 "Block 61" for about $2 billion

http://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/uae_13-60.pdf

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Indonesia will purchase up to 70 BTR-4 to replace the ridiculously old BTR-50. The APC is even older than TNI's most senior general.  rclxub.gif

http://koarmatim.tnial.mil.id/index.php?op...i-al&Itemid=191
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BTR-4 is for PT-76 replacement, referred to the article

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Though it is still early.
Happy Chinese new years to all Malaysian, military fans and /k/
and lastly "huat ahhhh" 4d no 1111 tongue.gif

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British Army wants AH-64E Apache before end of decade

Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
22 January 2014

The British Army Air Corps (AAC) expects to replace its current AgustaWestland-Boeing WAH-64D Apache Longbow AH.1 attack helicopter fleet with the latest-variant AH-64E (formerly AH-64D Block III) "by the end of the decade", a senior service official disclosed on 23 January.

Speaking at the IQPC International Military Helicopter conference in London, the deputy commander of the tri-service Joint Helicopter Command (JHC), Brigadier Neil Sexton, said that, with the AAC's Apache AH.1 helicopters (Block I standard) suffering from obsolescence issues, the army "rather hopes" that the Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian will be chosen as its successor, for fielding before 2020.

"The army is absolutely sold on [the Apache's] performance in Afghanistan," Brig Sexton said, adding: "[The Apache AH.1] has an extremely high profile with the public, mainly down to Captain Wales [Prince Harry] in Afghanistan."

As well the proven performance of the AH.1-variant Apache now in service, Brig Sexton noted that the enhanced capabilities of the AH-64E are proving to be highly alluring to the United Kingdom, especially with regard to manned-unmanned teaming. "We are watching very closely what the US is doing with this," he said, adding: "There is a lot of future potential for this with [the British Army's] Watchkeeper unmanned aerial vehicle."

In terms of numbers, Brig Sexton said that he does not expect any AH-64Es to be procured as one-for-one replacements for the Apaches currently in service (67 were purchased, with one lost on operations in Afghanistan), adding "but we don't need that". The most likely scenario will see the most costly systems on the current AH.1 aircraft - the M-TADS (targeting system), the fire control system, and the engines - being refitted into newly built airframes, with the equipment left over providing a ready-made pool of spares.

According to the brigadier, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) expects the acquisition process for the AH-64E to be decided "in the next couple of years", with a contract being signed shortly after. He could not say though whether this process would begin before the next UK general election in 2015. While Brig Sexton said that any procurement decision must be made with the US Army production run in mind, Boeing officials previously told IHS Jane's that programme delays incurred by sequestration were having the unintended consequence of buying the United Kingdom time in making its decision.

"With the US Army staring down the tunnel of sequestration, the new-build of 56 [AH-64E] helicopters has been delayed [634 AH-64Ds will also be remanufactured to AH-64E standard, of which 43 have been done to date]," said David Koopersmith, Vice President Attack Helicopter Programme for Boeing. "The [US Army] production line will not now start until about 2019/2020 and will run through until at least 2026, giving the UK the luxury of some flexibility," Koopersmith said at the Seoul International Aerospace and Defence Exhibition (ADEX) in October 2013.

The MoD is currently undertaking a capability sustainment programme (CSP) to sustain the UK's attack helicopter capability out to 2040 and beyond, but has declined to say when it will report the findings of this study. The AH-64E is understood to be one of a number of options being considered, with others being the procurement of a new helicopter type altogether or even the scrapping of the capability.


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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 28 2014, 11:07 AM)
Though it is still early.
Happy Chinese new years to all Malaysian, military fans and /k/
and lastly "huat ahhhh" 4d no 1111 tongue.gif
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1111

kompom eh?
must buy big lah this time
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Malaysian sources deny PLAN drills around James Shoal
Dzirhan Mahadzir, Kuala Lumpur - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
26 January 2014

Malaysian military sources have said there is no basis to Chinese media claims that a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) task group conducted a patrol around the James Shoal region of Malaysia's Exclusive Economic Zone on 26 January.

The sources told IHS Jane's that Malaysian ships and aircraft operating in the area, which lies 50 n miles from the East Malaysian town of Bintulu, reported no sightings nor electronic surveillance returns of the three ships cited in the Chinese media reports: the Type 071 landing ship dock amphibious assault ship Changbaishan (989); Luyang I-class (Type 052B) destroyer Wuhan (169); and Luyang II-class (Type 052C) destroyer Haikou (171)

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i think the chinese has retreated from the area
or...mindef is hiding the truth to the public..
or..this is a illuminati chinese scam.. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 28 2014, 01:05 PM)
1111

kompom eh?
must buy big lah this time
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Thread v11.
So bagi no1111 laugh.gif

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 28 2014, 08:49 AM)
Netherlands Leopard Tank brake test.  shocking.gif


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Malaysian sources deny PLAN drills around James Shoal
Dzirhan Mahadzir, Kuala Lumpur - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
26 January 2014

Malaysian military sources have said there is no basis to Chinese media claims that a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) task group conducted a patrol around the James Shoal region of Malaysia's Exclusive Economic Zone on 26 January.

The sources told IHS Jane's that Malaysian ships and aircraft operating in the area, which lies 50 n miles from the East Malaysian town of Bintulu, reported no sightings nor electronic surveillance returns of the three ships cited in the Chinese media reports: the Type 071 landing ship dock amphibious assault ship Changbaishan (989); Luyang I-class (Type 052B) destroyer Wuhan (169); and Luyang II-class (Type 052C) destroyer Haikou (171)

sos

i think the chinese has retreated from the area
or...mindef is hiding the truth to the public..
or..this is a illuminati chinese scam..  laugh.gif
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No lar china fleet come here for early cny celebration.
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No lar china fleet come here for early cny celebration.
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they're here to deliver fresh limau mandarin from mainland laugh.gif
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they're here to deliver fresh limau mandarin from mainland  laugh.gif
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No lar.
they come here to hide their great leader songlap money.
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Thread v11.
So bagi no1111 laugh.gif
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I read in Dzirhan fb page told that according to his reliable source, China Navy didnt landed & excercised at James Shoal at all..they only did it at Paracel Island

any comment?
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 28 2014, 02:48 PM)
I read in Dzirhan fb page told that according to his reliable source, China Navy didnt landed & excercised at James Shoal at all..they only did it at Paracel Island

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Yes they are.... only Paracel. Not in james shoal. It is closely monitored by RMN. fyi... RMN is shadowing their activities very2 close... eventhough some people said we didnt perform our duty...we didnt intercept them. Starting from their 1st sail from China we knew that already...thanks to our allies of course. We feed each other...
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 28 2014, 03:14 PM)
Yes they are.... only Paracel. Not in james shoal. It is closely monitored by RMN. fyi... RMN is shadowing their activities very2 close... eventhough some people said we didnt perform our duty...we didnt intercept them. Starting from their 1st sail from China we knew that already...thanks to our allies of course. We feed each other...
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Yg selalu buat eks dgn kita tu kira allies la.... of course they have interest also. But changing info will benefit both to counter PLA dreams
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 28 2014, 03:14 PM)
Yes they are.... only Paracel. Not in james shoal. It is closely monitored by RMN. fyi... RMN is shadowing their activities very2 close... eventhough some people said we didnt perform our duty...we didnt intercept them. Starting from their 1st sail from China we knew that already...thanks to our allies of course. We feed each other...
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so, there's no need for us to bruhaha isnt it?

no wonder recently china gave live pandas to us..seems like China did respect the diplomatic relationship with us, for a time being
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 28 2014, 03:45 PM)
so, there's no need for us to bruhaha isnt it?

no wonder recently china gave live pandas to us..seems like China did respect the diplomatic relationship with us, for a time being
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mana pandan panda tu? Sorry never been to zoo for ages?
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India unveils new local-made Arjun Mk-II main battle tank at the Republic Day Military Parade 2014.




Sunday, January 26, 2014 03:36 PM



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The Arjun Mk.II MBT (Main Battle Tank) was unveiled for the first time to the public at India's 65th Republic Day Military Parade, January 26, 2014. Thle latest version of Arjun MBT is aimed at exemplifying DRDO’s strength in the area of defence technology – design and development, leading to the production of state of the art weapon systems for India’s armed forces.


Mark two version of Arjun the Indian Main Battle Tank, incorporating over seventy improvements over Arjun Mark I, has been developed by DRDO in a record time of just under three years.

The upgraded version has 89 improvements over its predecessor. These include long-range missile firing capabilities, panoramic sights with night vision, enhanced weapon penetration, digital control, better hunter-killer capability, improved auxiliary power unit (APU), better communication equipment and navigation aid. The tank will have frontal explosive reactive armour (ERA) to protect against incoming missiles

In August 2013, the upgraded version of main battle tank Arjun was undergoing final testing in Pokhran field firing range.

The automotive trials has test the new suspension of the tank designed to handle up to 70 tonnes of weight.

The tank, Arjun Mark-II, is being tested for different parameters. The first test will examine its missile firing ability while the second one will look into its automotive aspects ie, its movement ability especially with added load.

A major modification on the new version of the tank is its missile firing capability. The new LAHAT missile is primarily meant for targeting armoured vehicles and fortifications over extended ranges.



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The picture looks old though, when was this?
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Malaysia does sign for its Tiger HAP?
By William Steuer | 28 January 2014 Thursday

France proposed sale of six Tiger HAP used.

This is a case that lasts for months already: the sale of six attack helicopters Tiger HAP (Support Protection) used in Malaysia, which showed for a long time its desire to strengthen its capacity to support close fire. Taken from the stocks of the Light Aviation Army (Alat) and delivered to "Standard 1" or the one currently used by France in overseas operations, these helicopters have been delivered from the beginning of the year 2014. But the signing of the contract does not come.

"This project equipment had experienced a big boost early last year," says a close case. Early 2013, Malaysia is experiencing a difficult security situation, linked to land claims Philippine rebels on the state of Sabah in effect. Events which led to several weeks of military action (Operation "Daulat"), mobilizing many local air assets.

As early as July 2013, the French offer comes on the table Malaysian military, while wishing to have helicopters early 2014. The agreement provided for the delivery of Tiger HAP set configuration "Standard 1", but the missile capacity of the new standard just HAD to arrive unit. Helicopters are therefore fitted with formidable 30mm cannon, rockets and possibly air-to-air Mistral missiles.

Since the pressure is slightly settled and signed long in coming, but the French team remain confident and hope to properly hang the sale to their list of 2014 the Asia-Pacific region rich in opportunities in the short and medium term for the French defense industry. Kuala Lumpur is already good customer of Airbus products Helicopters, with a recent order of 12 EC725 Caracal whose deliveries began in December 2012 and are now completed.

http://www.air-cosmos.com/defense/la-malai...-tigre-hap.html

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Huh? Tiger Attack Chopper for MAF? Since when? Or this just another croc n bull story?
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Let's wait for official announcement, I think MAF already choose the tigers from the very beginning since 2010
And the lahad datu incident only puts the plan on high gear

Just dunno which version we might get
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 29 2014, 12:26 AM)
Let's wait for official announcement, I think MAF already choose the tigers from the very beginning since 2010
And the lahad datu incident only puts the plan on high gear

Just dunno which version we might get
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HAP variant unlikely.. tongue.gif I just want to know what anti-armor missile it going to be equid biggrin.gif

I still think it best for malaysia to upgrade it SAM capabilities + AEWC + more anti-ship missile


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or..or..we buy china's ZW-10 attack heli..to ease the tensions between us a bit..lel
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Malaysian sources deny PLAN drills around James Shoal

Dzirhan Mahadzir, Kuala Lumpur

IHS Jane's Defence Weekly 26 January 2014 Malaysian military sources have said there is no basis to Chinese media claims that a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) task group conducted a patrol around the James Shoal region of Malaysia's Exclusive Economic Zone on 26 January. The sources told IHS Jane's that Malaysian ships and aircraft operating in the area, which lies 50 n miles from the East Malaysian town of Bintulu, reported no sightings nor electronic surveillance returns of the three ships cited in the Chinese media reports: the Type 071 landing ship dock amphibious assault ship Changbaishan (989); Luyang I-class (Type 052B) destroyer Wuhan (169); and Luyang II-class (Type 052C) destroyer Haikou (171)

http://www.janes.com


i think its already latest official news
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from fb;
i think its already latest official news
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So everyone got trolled by china?
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So everyone got trolled by china news media?
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Wow singapore going for a330mrtt.
now I'm so ao envy of singapore procurment.
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They just past thru James Shoal at night...no exs or landing conducted. It has been reported by our ship & P3C Orion.
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 29 2014, 01:56 AM)
from fb;
i think its already latest official news
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Still not convinced.
Until KEMENTAH or PM himself deny the incident ever happened I'm not holding a third-party announcement as official government denial.
This is too serious a matter to depend on other sources.

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 28 2014, 06:28 PM)
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 07:44 AM)
They just past thru James Shoal at night...no exs or landing conducted. It has been reported by our ship & P3C Orion.
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I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue.
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And since when we have P3C Orion?

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 29 2014, 12:39 AM)
HAP variant unlikely..  tongue.gif  I just want to know what anti-armor missile it going to be equid biggrin.gif

I still think it best for malaysia to upgrade it SAM capabilities + AEWC + more anti-ship missile
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2014, 08:10 AM)
I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue.
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Ally....

Got direct access to this matter since the beginning...but cant reveal much coz under classified infos

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2014, 08:10 AM)
I never said they landed or had exercises there.But they still stopped at the shoal and swore an oath to defence PRC territories. This is already a serious issue.
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The Australians periodically fly their P-3C Orion LRMP aircraft from Butterworth to conduct maritime surveillance in the Indian Ocean and South China Sea, and share information with the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), adds the expert.
http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnist/mo...-sabah-1.238098

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US Navy P-3 Orion surveillance aircraft frequently fly over areas that the Philippines says are within its legal territory but where China has deployed military vessels, said Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 29 2014, 02:00 AM)
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Ally....

Got direct access to this matter since the beginning...but cant reveal much coz under classified infos
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Just to tell u guys....ATM never take this matter for granted. Since the beginning of the provocation, we already deployed assets to shadow them....at the same time thru diplomacy channel. The news just cameout for publics...but it already happened some times ago....see the limitation we have now. Lots of ops to take care... from north to south...east to west.
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Marine Corps gets more war machines

Wahyoe Boediwardhana, The Jakarta Post, Situbondo | Archipelago | Tue, January 28 2014, 7:05 PM

Dozens of Russian-made BMP-3F amphibious infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) made a formation as soon as they landed on Asembagus beach in Situbondo regency, East Java. Operated by the Indonesian Navy’s Marine Corps, the amphibious IFV column then detected a target some three kilometers away to be neutralized.

With support from dozens of 70-mm rockets fired by a RM-70 Grad multiple launcher rocket system (MLRS), and French-made 105-mm howitzer, the amphibious IFVs approached the target with guns blazing. The installed weaponry includes a 100-mm cannon, 100-mm rocket, 30-mm automatic cannon and 7.62-mm machine guns.

The simulated target, located in the Marine Corps’ Combat Training Center (Puslatpur), was eliminated.

The simulation was held on Monday during a handover ceremony of 37 BMP-3Fs from the Russian government to the Indonesian government. In December 2010, the Marine Corps received the first batch of 17 IFV units.

“The vehicles fit into the development of our defense forces to turn the Indonesian Navy into a world class navy,” Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said.

In total, the Marine Corps now has 55 BMP-3Fs, including one BREM-L recovery vehicle. The amphibious IFVs will be deployed to the 1st Marines in Surabaya and to the 2nd Marines in Jakarta.

Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Gen. Moeldoko, who also attended the ceremony, said that the new IFVs were part of TNI efforts to modernize its ageing war machines, such as its Soviet Union-made PT-76 amphibious light tanks and French-made AMX-13 light tanks.

The Marine Corps still has about 50 PT-76s, made in 1954, while the Indonesian Army has hundreds of AMX-13, made between the 1950s and the 1960s.

“We cannot upgrade them anymore because they are already too old,” Moeldoko said.

“AMX-13 and PT-76 will be decommissioned gradually and replaced with newer models until the end of Renstra II.”

Renstra II refers to the five-year Strategic Plan II in 2015-2019 to modernize the TNI. Renstra I is in 2009-2014.

Purnomo said more modern weaponry would be procured in Renstra II, such as the Ukrainian-made BTR-4 armored personnel carrier (APC).

Russian Ambassador to Jakarta Mikhail Galuzin said he was very proud to be able to supply the BMP-3Fs for TNI.

“Because we are strategic partners and we have deep trust in the future,” he said on the sidelines of the ceremony.

Purnomo said the Russian government had agreed to the sale of two Kilo-class submarines to Indonesia, which included Klub-S cruise missiles with a range of between 300 km and 400 km.

“We will send a team to Russia in February to asses whether Indonesia will buy new submarines or used submarines and upgrade their capabilities,” he said.

“We want the Klub-S missiles to be included because of their range.”

After the handover ceremony, Purnomo went to Pasuruan regency to visit the Eighth Cavalry Battalion/Tank, which will house German-made Leopard 2 main battle tanks (MBT) and Marder IFVs.

The Eighth, part of the Army’s Strategic Reserve Command’s (Kostrad) Second Division, will get 40 units of the MBTs and IFVs with the first delivery in October and the rest sent in batches until 2015.

“All in all, we will receive 105 Leopard 2 MBTs and 50 Marder IFVs. They will be deployed at Kostrad’s First and Second Divisions,” Purnomo said after visiting the battalion.

“There is also a discourse to deploy them in border areas.”


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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 09:25 AM)
Just to tell u guys....ATM never take this matter for granted. Since the beginning of the provocation, we already deployed assets to shadow them....at the same time thru diplomacy channel.  The news just cameout for publics...but it already happened some times ago....see the limitation we have now. Lots of ops to take care... from north to south...east to west.
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Yup thing might look simple in front of the news but what happend behind the scene is unknown to us normal citizens.
I trust you guys would do a good jobs protecting our country interest.
but I dun trust those politician.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 29 2014, 09:45 AM)
Yup thing might look simple in front of the news but what happend behind the scene is unknown to us normal citizens.
I trust you guys would do a good jobs protecting our country interest.
but I dun trust those politician.
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sometime I do think that we need to review our media policy about getting silence abbot defense matter
we see that the mainstream media are playing it cool, but the international media are publishing about this,
sometime this create a some sort of panic in the country

it is better to have one media (preferably BERNAMA )to have a little cover about this matter before Reuters
it will give the impression that it is under control
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 29 2014, 10:51 AM)
sometime I do think that we need to review our media policy about getting silence abbot defense matter
we see that the mainstream media are playing it cool, but the international media are publishing about this,
sometime this create a some sort of panic in the country

it is better to have one media (preferably BERNAMA )to have a little cover about this matter before Reuters
it will give the impression that it is under control
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It still depend on mkn and government decision.
I think mostly they want to put sentiments of anti china to the lowest possible.
If it were me I think it would rather put the information as minimal as possible as you can't predict which politician might go full retard with such issue.
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On another things.
Sgpv seem to be getting uav s-100 perhaps
As for torpedo launcher we could be getting the similar setting as the fremm class.
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Tuesday, January 28. 2014

PAF to receive 2 attack AW-109s this year

Posted online by Jigs Nepomuceno in Top Stories at 17:13

MANILA — The Philippine Air Force (PAF) said on Tuesday that two units of the attack version of the AgustaWestland AW-109 "Power" helicopters will be delivered this year.

"Two units will be delivered by 2014 and (by) 2015 (the remaining) six units will be delivered. As per signed contract, two units will be delivered 365 days upon LC (letter of credit) opening," PAF spokesperson Col. Miguel Ernesto Okol said.

He added that the pilots and flight crew who will man the brand-new aircraft have already been identified.

"Pilot(s) and (flight) crew (are now) identified. However, the date for training is TBDL (to be determined later)," Okol said.

The Philippines and AgustaWestland signed the P3.44- billion contract for the attack version of the AW-109s last Nov. 6.

The PAF’s AW-109 "Power" configuration will feature a dedicated mission package and equipment, including a combination of weapon systems.

“It gives us great pleasure to sign this contract with the Philippine Air Force, further reinforcing the already strong partnership with the Department of National Defense. This latest achievement provides clear evidence of the customer’s confidence in the product while we’ve demonstrated that we are a reliable partner, able to offer a cost-effective solution. We are committed to deliver the improved mission capabilities and high quality services the customer deserves,” AgustaWestland chief executive officer Daniele Romiti earlier said.

The AW-109 "Power" is a three-ton class eight-seat twin engine helicopter.

The spacious cabin is designed to be fitted with a number of modular equipment packages for quick and easy conversion between roles.

The aircraft’s safety and survivability features include a fully separated fuel system, dual hydraulic boost system, dual electrical systems and redundant lubrication and cooling systems for the main transmission and engines.

The AW-109s' superior speed, capacity and productivity combined with reliability and ease of maintenance make it the most cost effective helicopter in its class for a range of government tasks.

Over 580 AW-109 "Power" and AW-109 LUH helicopters have been ordered for parapublic, military and commercial applications by customers in around 50 countries. (PNA)


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Indonesia selects Ukrainian BTRs, Russian BMPs

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
27 January 2014

Ukroboronprom, Ukraine's state-owned defence industry holding group, said on 24 January that it has been selected to supply the Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) with the amphibious BTR-4 8x8 wheeled armoured personnel carrier (APC).

Ukroboronprom said the MoD's initial requirement is for five units and that a contract to secure the sale is expected to be signed during the first quarter of 2014. It will represent Ukraine's first military sale to Indonesia in nearly two decades.

IHS Jane's understands that the BTR-4s - developed and built by the Kharkov Morozov Machine Building Plant in Kharkov, Ukraine - are to be acquired by the Indonesian Marine Corps and are intended to augment and eventually replace fleets of refurbished BTR-50 tracked APCs that were procured from Ukraine in the 1990s.


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which reminds me, why m'sia not interested with Russian vehicles?
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Still not convinced.
Until KEMENTAH or PM himself deny the incident ever happened I'm not holding a third-party announcement as official government denial.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia has denied foreign reports that China had encroached into Sarawak waters and was flexing its muscle in the country's maritime borders as a show of power.

Royal Malaysian Navy chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar who rubbished them as inaccurate reporting, said China was actually holding a high-level maritime exercise with its navy and airforce, away from the country's exclusive economic zone and it was held in conjunction with the recent launch of its aircraft carrier Liaoning.

The New Straits Times understands the exercise involved the aircraft carrier, and maritime assets including a submarine, the amphibious dock landing ship Changbaishan, two destroyers, as well as frigates with support from its air force fighter-jets. The exercise, Aziz said was being conducted northwest of the disputed Spratly islands, which was over 1,000 nautical miles away from Malaysia's 200nm exclusive economic zone, adding that no Chinese ship encroached James Shoal, located 80km northwest of Bintulu, Sarawak.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 29 2014, 11:04 AM)
It still depend on mkn and government decision.
I think mostly they want to put sentiments of anti china to the lowest possible.
If it were me I think it would rather put the information as minimal as possible as you can't predict which politician might go full retard with such issue.
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On another things.
Sgpv seem to be getting uav s-100 perhaps
As for torpedo launcher we could be getting the similar setting as the fremm class.
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minimal is all needed
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From time-time proven that our armed forces were very weak in PR.
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The 3 ex-Nakhoda Ragam Class will be named by the Indonesian Navy:

- KRI Bung Tomo
- KRI John Lie (Indonesian hero of Chinese origin)
- KRI Usman Harun

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From time-time proven that our armed forces were very weak in PR.
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True, maybe the MKN should take over this matter
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True, maybe the MKN should take over this matter
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Actually...everything related to military ops is under MKN already. They are the link between political decision & military action. So normally politics always on the top
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KRI John Lie (ex-Nakhoda Ragam Class) of the Indonesian Navy being refitted with the Oto Melara 76mm gun.

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Like ops fajar in aden...after bunga melati 2 captured. The tri service are really in battle mode to storm the ship. Paskal, Paskau, GGK started their training & rehearsal once inderapura & lekiu left Lumut. Everyday...boarding, firing, spierig etc. I dont know how many amounts of ammo they brought that time. On the day...during that night when all assault boats & helos were ready... decision from PM thru MKN... pay the money. All were dissapointed..... sampai balik sini org cakap PASKAL standard basuh darah kambing je...bagi makan KFC je.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 06:28 PM)
Like ops fajar in aden...after bunga melati 2 captured. The tri service are really in battle mode to storm the ship. Paskal, Paskau, GGK started their training & rehearsal once inderapura & lekiu left Lumut. Everyday...boarding, firing, spierig etc. I dont know how many amounts of ammo they brought that time. On the day...during that night when all assault boats & helos were ready... decision from  PM thru MKN... pay the money. All were dissapointed..... sampai balik sini org cakap PASKAL standard basuh darah kambing je...bagi makan KFC je.
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on ur personal experience,would they hv done the ops successfully?one sincere question

i read somewhere tht paskal helped in a mission with french special operations n sarkozy personally mentioned them in an article but later googled cant find anymore...is this true of their involvement?
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 06:28 PM)
Like ops fajar in aden...after bunga melati 2 captured. The tri service are really in battle mode to storm the ship. Paskal, Paskau, GGK started their training & rehearsal once inderapura & lekiu left Lumut. Everyday...boarding, firing, spierig etc. I dont know how many amounts of ammo they brought that time. On the day...during that night when all assault boats & helos were ready... decision from  PM thru MKN... pay the money. All were dissapointed..... sampai balik sini org cakap PASKAL standard basuh darah kambing je...bagi makan KFC je.
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MISC nak bayo duit, lagi pun tak silap aku, intel kata kapal tu terletak kat 2 tempat berbeza kemungkinan hostage sekali, jadi terlampau berisiko tinggi
kalo serang satu takut satu lagi pulak kene letup
+ waktu somalis pirate ni kelengkapan depa bukan tahap militia lagi tp dah small scale army
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on ur personal experience,would they hv done the ops successfully?one sincere question

i read somewhere tht paskal helped in a mission with french special operations n sarkozy personally mentioned them in an article but later googled cant find anymore...is this true of their involvement?
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That one regarding medical facilities...during rescue mission we bought mobile hospital onboard inderapura with some Lt Col as Dr pakar...able to conduct major operation. That time only we have this facilities in aden... so french asked inderapura to be in their visibility when they conducted raid.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 06:22 PM)
Actually...everything related to military ops is under MKN already. They are the link between political decision & military action. So normally politics always on the top
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haizz.. it will be sound better if the news come locally instead of Reuters
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 06:28 PM)
Like ops fajar in aden...after bunga melati 2 captured. The tri service are really in battle mode to storm the ship. Paskal, Paskau, GGK started their training & rehearsal once inderapura & lekiu left Lumut. Everyday...boarding, firing, spierig etc. I dont know how many amounts of ammo they brought that time. On the day...during that night when all assault boats & helos were ready... decision from  PM thru MKN... pay the money. All were dissapointed..... sampai balik sini org cakap PASKAL standard basuh darah kambing je...bagi makan KFC je.
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yeah..ayam too a bit disappointed that misc agreed to pay the ransom..missed the chance to see dem spec ops in action..then Indo forumers bashing us saying us pengecut n etc.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 29 2014, 06:28 PM)
Like ops fajar in aden...after bunga melati 2 captured. The tri service are really in battle mode to storm the ship. Paskal, Paskau, GGK started their training & rehearsal once inderapura & lekiu left Lumut. Everyday...boarding, firing, spierig etc. I dont know how many amounts of ammo they brought that time. On the day...during that night when all assault boats & helos were ready... decision from  PM thru MKN... pay the money. All were dissapointed..... sampai balik sini org cakap PASKAL standard basuh darah kambing je...bagi makan KFC je.
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Battle mode doesnt meant anti piracy mode u know....it was a real battle mode. Lekiu with 8 x MM40 plus extra in inderapura. Sea skua, torpedoes, seawolf....
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Battle mode doesnt meant anti piracy mode u know....it was a real battle mode. Lekiu with 8 x MM40 plus extra in inderapura. Sea skua, torpedoes, seawolf....
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eh bro..y u replied to urself?  laugh.gif
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For all the posts in the thread, I'm still waiting for official source that says MAF has bough used Tiger Attack Helis ...
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For all the posts in the thread, I'm still waiting for official source that says MAF has bough used Tiger Attack Helis ...
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Tiger HAP Procurement Finalised This Year????

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A report by William Steuer on Janaury 28 titled “La Malaisie signera-t-elle pour ses Tigre HAP ?“
which literally translated as “Will Malaysia Sign For Its Tiger HAP?” and published in Air&Cosmos
portal is indeed interesting and something which is very much welcomed.

As has been demostrated during Ops Daulat in March 2013, there is an apparent need by the Malaysian Army
to have a forward deployed, Close Air Support (CAS) platform such as attack helicopter, which is able to provide
aerial suppression fire close to ground troop’s enemy contact.

According to the report, as early as July 2013, the French has offered  to the MAF for the
delivery of six Eurocopter Tiger HAP attack helicopters taken from the French Army’s ALAT stock.

[FlyingHerald]


But it's also a response news to the french source..
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This just in
But it's also a response news to the french source..
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how much does france offer for the used Tigers?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 29 2014, 09:14 PM)
how much does france offer for the used Tigers?
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teh French army is going to have Tiger HAP in 2014
but Malaysia took 6 from the number the French Army received

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 29 2014, 12:12 PM)
which reminds me, why m'sia not interested with Russian vehicles?
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same like why some dont like proton. tongue.gif
cheap but not comfortable plus parts can be very difficult to find. Plus some after sales service very bad whistling.gif

Big brother murica very cautious of selling anything to us. best look to europe, not the best but acceptable

China? well the name basically speak for itself wink.gif
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 29 2014, 10:43 PM)
teh French army is going to have Tiger HAP in 2014
but Malaysia took 6 from the number the French Army received

so not so used sangat la  tongue.gif
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IINM the French army is going to have the HAD variant.

The HAP & HAD are 2 different variant of the Tiger.

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Tiger HAP

The Tiger HAP/HCP (Hélicoptère d'Appui Protection, French for "Support and Escort Helicopter" / Hélicoptère de Combat Polyvalent French for "Multipurpose Combat Helicopter") is a medium-weight air-to-air combat and fire support helicopter built for the French Army.

It is fitted with a chin-mounted GIAT 30 mm gun turret and can carry 68 mm SNEB unguided rockets or 20 mm machine cannons for the fire support role as well as Mistral air-to-air missiles. France's 40 HAP were delivered by 2012 at a cost of €27m/unit (~US$36m) in 2012 prices.

Tiger HAD

The Tiger HAD (Hélicoptère d'Appui Destruction, in French or Helicoptero de Apoyo y Destrucción in Spanish for "Support and Destruction Helicopter") version is essentially identical to the HAP version, but with 14% more engine power available due to the upgraded Enhanced MTR390 engines (1,000 kW / 1,341 shp) and a better ballistic protection, as a result of the specific requests made by the Spanish Army. It will be equipped with the Hellfire II, and the Spike ER anti-armour missiles.

The helicopter is suited for a support and fire suppression role. It was selected by the Spanish Army and the French Army Light Aviation (ALAT) decided to upgrade most of their HAP helicopters to the HAD variant. In December 2004, Spain ordered 24 of the HAD variant and France ordered 40 HADs. France's 40 HAD will cost €35.6m/unit (~US$48m) in 2012 prices.

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The French army start receiving the HAD variant last year:

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French DGA receives first Tiger HAD helicopter from Eurocopter

24 April 2013

The French defence procurement agency (DGA) has received the first production Tiger Hélicoptère Appui-Destruction (HAD) fire-support helicopter from Eurocopter for use by French Army aviation units.

Received after the helicopter's military qualification by the DGA on 10 April, the delivery is part of a contract signed by the Organisation for Joint Armament Cooperation (OCCAR) in August 2004 for a total of 40 HAD helicopters on behalf of France.

Eurocopter Group France executive officer and global business and services vice-president Dominique Maudet said: "With the Tiger HAD, Eurocopter further expands the operational capabilities of a combat helicopter family, which has demonstrated its mission effectiveness and performance in highly challenging military deployments."

Essentially identical to the Hélicoptère d'Appui Protection (HAP) helicopter currently in service with the French Army, the helicopter features upgraded MTR390 engines, improved ballistic protection, and a new optronic sighting system and electronic warfare suite, as well as an identification, friend or foe (IFF) system.

Designed to conduct support and fire suppression missions, the helicopter can also be fitted with the PARS 3 LR anti-tank missiles, originally developed for the German Army's UHT version, in addition to the AGM-114 Hellfire II air-to-surface missiles.

“With the Tiger HAD, Eurocopter further expands the operational capabilities of a combat helicopter family, which has demonstrated its mission effectiveness and performance in highly challenging military deployments."

Twenty four helicopters have also been ordered by the Spanish Army, which also features six Tiger HAP support and escort variants retrofitted for fire support and attack operations in December 2004.

The French Army plans to operate a total of 80 Tiger helicopters, which include 40 HAP and 40 HAD variants for its tactical missions worldwide.

The helicopters have extensively been used during the French military operations in Afghanistan, Libya and most recently in Mali.

Powered by two Turbomeca Rolls-Royce MTR390 turboshaft engines, the Eurocopter Tiger is a two-seat attack aircraft designed to conduct precise day and night surveillance and fire support missions.

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IINM the French army is going to have the HAD variant.

The HAP & HAD are 2 different variant of the Tiger.
The French army start receiving the HAD variant last year:
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 29 2014, 09:14 PM)
how much does france offer for the used Tigers?
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Submarines in Southeast Asia: Proliferation, Not a Race

By Koh Swee Lean Collin
January 30, 2014

In early January this year, Vietnam formally joined the Southeast Asian “submarine club” with its first Russian-built Kilo-class submarine christened the Hanoi. Not too long ago, Jakarta expressed interest in acquiring the same model of submarines from Russia or more boats from South Korea, ostensibly to augment the incoming new fleet of three SS-209 boats purchased from South Korea back in August 2012. Just recently in November 2013, Singapore contracted German shipbuilder ThyssenKrupp to develop the Type-218SG, the first of two boats slated to enter service in 2020.

Other Southeast Asian countries have evinced interest in acquiring an undersea warfighting capability, but were prevented from doing so largely because of budgetary constraints. In the case of Thailand, even though no submarines were bought after the German offer of second-hand Type-206A boats lapsed in March 2012, the Royal Thai Navy has reportedly constructed submarine basing support and training facilities in anticipation of future acquisitions. The Philippine Navy has been eyeing submarines but for now, decided to prioritize the use of limited funds to beef up surface and naval aviation forces, with anti-submarine warfare capabilities tipped as the next major focus to substitute for a submarine capability.

A “Submarine Race” in Southeast Asia?

This recent spate of submarine acquisitions being implemented or planned has characterized Southeast Asian naval modernization efforts to date, which could lead to observers highlighting the revival of a “submarine race” in the region after the bout of submarine purchases made in the 1990s to early-2000s. A superficial survey of open remarks by the region’s defense and naval planners seemed to allude to this. For example, Indonesian Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro reportedly remarked that the submarine purchase, among other defense equipment, is designed to signal Jakarta’s commitment towards Indonesian defense modernization so that “we can keep up with ASEAN members.” Bangkok referred to the submarine programs of neighboring Southeast Asian navies when it emphasized the need for submarines as part of the country’s naval capabilities.

However, technical and geopolitical indications point to neither the existence of a “submarine race” nor the prospective emergence of such a phenomenon in the foreseeable future. Any negative effects of submarine proliferation in Southeast Asia appear to be at least counterbalanced by rising trends of regional cooperation in the submarine field.

Key Patterns in Submarine Capabilities

While there are evident efforts among regional submarine operators to look beyond a mere “fleet-in-being” force to create a more effective and sustainable force to guard their national waters, there are no indications of a rapid expansion of submarine forces. The Vietnamese submarine force will number six boats by 2016 while the Indonesians will muster three new submarines around the same time, whereas the existing pair of West German-built Type-209s will most likely be decommissioned. With the progressive phasing out of the ageing Challenger-class boats by then, Singapore will most likely have just two Archer-class submarines in service before the first Type-218SG is inducted. In short, the number of submarines in service throughout Southeast Asia will remain more or less stable within the next decade, with new boats supplanting old ones for existing submarine users while any expansion will take place over a significant span of time, primarily dependent on the countries’ economic health.

There is also no indication of a qualitative submarine race. When Singapore became the first Southeast Asian navy to introduce submarines with the air-independent propulsion (AIP), designed to prolong the underwater endurance of conventional submarines with reduced need for snorkeling, the consequent submarine buys of the other regional navies did not include that capability in response. The only area where there is some “catching up with the Joneses” has been submerged-launch anti-ship missiles. The Royal Malaysian Navy’s Scorpene-class submarines touted the region’s first such capability in the form of SM-39 Exocet, followed by Vietnam with the Klub-S, while Indonesia’s intent to purchase Kilo boats from Russia is intricately linked to a similar capability. In fact, new conventional submarines on the global market are typically offered with submerged-launch anti-ship missiles as an optional part of the entire sales package. This is an international trend in contemporary proliferation of submarine technologies, by no means unique to Southeast Asia. Navies in the Northeast and South Asian sub-regions have in fact long possessed such a capability.

Submarine-launched cruisemissiles (SLCM) for land attack purposes, however, represent a wholly different ballgame. Such weapons are potentially destabilizing, especially when launched from a platform as stealthy as a submarine, since they can project offensive firepower at standoff ranges deep into another country’s territory. It is noteworthy that whereas other major navies in the region have either acquired or explored the SLCM option, at present no Southeast Asian navy is seriously considering this capability. Another point is that none of the ASEAN member states is partner to the Missile Technology Control Regime, which restricts proliferation of missiles (and associated technologies) with a 500-kilogram payload out to a minimum range of 300 kilometers.

It is not yet ascertained whether the Kilo boats, which Indonesia is reportedly keen to purchase, will be armed with SLCM, such as the Klub-S land-attack variant. Scant information has emerged thus far regarding the capabilities of the Type-218SG. Nevertheless, SLCM is unlikely to appear on the future wish-lists of Southeast Asian navies unless serious evolution of geopolitical circumstances compels the introduction of such a weapon into the region. For now and the foreseeable future, AIP and submerged-launch anti-ship missiles constitute key submarine capability patterns in Southeast Asia.


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SHANTOU, January 27 (ChinaMil) -- A commissioning, naming and flag-presenting ceremony of the new-type guided missile frigate “ Jieyang ” of the Navy of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLAN) was held on the morning of January 26, 2014 at a naval port in Shantou of south China’s Guangdong province, marking that the ship is officially commissioned to the South China Sea Fleet of the PLAN.

The “ Jieyang ” ship (hull number 587) is a new-generation light guided missile frigate independently developed by China. It has a length of 88.9 meters, a beam of 11.14 meters and a full-load displacement of over 1,300 tons.

The “ Jieyang ” ship adopts advanced designs, uses cutting-edge technologies, integrates many types of weaponry and equipment, and features high integration and informatization, good stealth performance and strong electromagnetic compatibility.

After its commissioning to a maritime garrison command under the South China Sea Fleet of the PLAN, the warship is mainly responsible for such missions as patrol, alert, escort, anti-submarine and anti-ship operations and so forth




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Photos: PLA navy conducts landing drills in South China Sea
26 January 2014 Sunday | 08:28

http://english.people.com.cn/90786/8522037.html
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Thank goodness nothing happend,but any news regarding national security or these types of issues,whether true or not needs to be dealt with and addressed to the people quickly as a priority.If not,something like this will happen,people concerned with rumors & insecurity all over the place.

If the Chinese really did land there,do we need to know about it from official sources 3 days later?
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Marhalim Abas said in his blog that Malaysia is getting some ships soon from a "very unlikely" source.

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We are getting some ships soon – hopefully – from a very unlikely but very interested source. I will run it once I got double confirmation.

http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=4007#comment-224435

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unless if from Israel then i dun really surprise

many countries in europe is considering reduction in vessels. but if we get UK type 45 then i gonna be really happy
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unless if from Israel then i dun really surprise

many countries in europe is considering reduction in vessels. but if we get UK type 45 then i gonna be really happy
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There's too many "very unlikely" nations out there.. laugh.gif

India? dunwan
Russia? Stay away
S.Korea? Maybe
Brits? Still expensive even used
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 30 2014, 07:09 PM)
There's too many "very unlikely" nations out there..  laugh.gif

India? dunwan
Russia? Stay away
S.Korea? Maybe
Brits? Still expensive even used
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US..?

But the news will out if there any purchase because have to pass through congress even if used ship

China?

But then again what type of ship? Patrol boat? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 30 2014, 07:29 PM)
US..?
But the news will out if there any purchase because have to pass through congress even if used ship

China?
But then again what type of ship? Patrol boat? sweat.gif
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We've ady had some ships from US before like Inderapura and the marines likely to get LDP from them
So it's not a really "unlikely" source

China? Fuuuu
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atreyuangel, yinchet,.. aku nak tahu camne ye cara dia untuk apply cuti sekejap, dalam sehari ke dua hari ke dari latihan intensif tentera darat untuk bagi adik aku lawat ibu aku yang sakit, adik perempuan aku call kata emak aku jatuh lagi.. masuk ni dah dekat 3 kali dah jatuh tiba-tiba, aku ingat ajal emak aku dah nak sampai rasanya kalau berterusan camni..
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Pelancaran Pasukan Gempur Narkotik PDRM.

Kuala Lumpur, 30 Jan – Jenayah dadah akan diperangi habis-habisan apabila Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) menubuhkan sebuah pasukan elite yang dipanggil 'Special Tactical Intelligence Narcotics Group (STING)'secara rasminya dilancarkan di Pusat Latihan Polis (PULAPOL), Kuala Lumpur, pagi tadi.

Seramai 61 pegawai dan 138 anggota yang diketuai oleh dua orang Timbalan Komander berpangkat Senior Assistant Commisionner (SAC) di mana mereka telah melalui sesi pemilihan yang ketat bagi menjaga kualiti tugas yang dilihat akan memberi impak jauh lebih positif daripada sebelum ini.

'STING' di bawah kendalian Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah Narkotik (JSJN) ini ditubuhkan untuk menangani kes-kes jenayah yang membabitkan sindiket pengedaran dadah yang sering melibatkan kumpulan kongsi gelap.

Selain itu, pasukan elite STING juga akan mengenal pasti,mengesan,menyekat dan membongkar segala aktiviti dadah termasuk makmal haram memproses dadah.

Kemodenan jenayah narkotik masa kini yang semakin canggih bukan lagi masalah kepada pasukan ini di mana turut dilengkapi senjata serta gajet dalam memberi amaran kepada penjenayah-penjenayah dadah tegar yang merasakan diri mereka kebal dari tindakan undang-undang.
"Justeru itu diharapkan penubuhan skuad ini mampu menangkis tanggapan negatif masyarakat bahawa PDRM hanya mengambil tindakan kepada ahli-ahli sindiket sedangkan dalang kepada masalah ini masih bebas," ucap Menteri Dalam Negeri.

Sepanjang tahun 2013 JSJN telah berjaya mengesan dan menangkap 33 ketua sindiket pengedaran dadah serta membongkar 34 lokasi makmal haram memproses dadah serta merampas pelbagai jenis dadah dianggarkan bernilai RM402.73 juta.

JSJN juga menyita pelbagai jenis harta yang disyaki hasil daripada aktiviti pengedaran dadah berjumlah RM94.96 Juta dan menangkap seramai 175,198 orang atas pelbagai kesalahan jenayah narkotik.

Majlis pelancaran tersebut telah disempurnakan oleh Dato' Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, Menteri Dalam Negeri.

Turut hadir di majlis tersebut ialah Tan Sri Dato' Sri Khalid bin Abu Bakar, Ketua Polis Negara, Dato' Mohamad Khalid bin Hj. Shariff, Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Dalam Negeri, Datuk Noor Rashid bin Ibrahim, Pengarah Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah Narkotik, barisan pengarah PDRM dan tetamu jemputan.

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Sauce: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.7...13901684&type=1.

So Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah (JSJ) dah ada STAFOC, Jabatan Siasatan Jenayah Narkotik (JSJN) pun dah ada STING, Imigresen dah ada GTK, so, apa pulak lepas ni?

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Lagi ramai trained as elit team lg ok....byk pilihan. Mcm US, mcm2 ade...pilih je nak pakai mane
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QUOTE(king of fighter @ Jan 30 2014, 09:53 PM)
atreyuangel, yinchet,.. aku nak tahu camne ye cara dia untuk apply cuti sekejap, dalam sehari ke dua hari ke dari latihan intensif tentera darat untuk bagi adik aku lawat ibu aku yang sakit, adik perempuan aku call kata emak aku jatuh lagi.. masuk ni dah dekat 3 kali dah jatuh tiba-tiba, aku ingat ajal emak aku dah nak sampai rasanya kalau berterusan camni..
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Ko buleh gi kem terdekat atau balai polis...minta diorng sahkan & hantar signal ade kes kecemasan ni...kepulangan atas budi bicara pengurusan latihan.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jan 30 2014, 10:25 PM)
Ko buleh gi kem terdekat atau balai polis...minta diorng sahkan & hantar signal ade kes kecemasan ni...kepulangan atas budi bicara pengurusan latihan.
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terima kasih banyak-banyak LTZ
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 30 2014, 08:20 PM)
We've ady had some ships from US before like Inderapura and the marines likely to get LDP from them
So it's not a really "unlikely" source

China? Fuuuu
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China? Highly unlikely. I could only think of Italy with the 2nd hand Maestrale frigates (supposedly offered to Phil Navy, but last year Phil Govt decided to opt for new ones) or it could be from USA with 2nd hand Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates offered under Foreign Military Sale prog.

I'm more partial to the Italian ships instead.
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HHhhhnnnggghhh. That thing is so sexy wub.gif
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jan 31 2014, 12:00 AM)
China? Highly unlikely. I could only think of Italy with the 2nd hand Maestrale frigates (supposedly offered to Phil Navy, but last year Phil Govt decided to opt for new ones) or it could be from USA with 2nd hand Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates offered under Foreign Military Sale prog.

I'm more partial to the Italian ships instead.
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Perry is already quite worn out. sad.gif But then again begger cant be choosy

But what ship is actually on the list? Patrol boat is technically a ship also sweat.gif

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Japan? They got anything to decom?
South Korea maybe?
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depends on which batch

there are new(er) OHP hull still in service with USN. some of the hull are even newer than some of Ticonderoga-class
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Navy hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(cukobi @ Jan 31 2014, 01:07 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Navy  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

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Perry is already quite worn out.  sad.gif But then again begger cant be choosy

But what ship is actually on the list? Patrol boat is technically a ship also  sweat.gif
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Maybe can consider US navy Whidbey Island class dock landing ship 16000 tons, 2 off the this ship will retirement this year, maybe RMN can buy it used as LPD.
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IINM the French army is going to have the HAD variant.

The HAP & HAD are 2 different variant of the Tiger.
The French army start receiving the HAD variant last year:
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actually France Army (Alat) only receive 24 unit Tiger HAP , from 2001 until 2012 (remaining will change to HAD version), first 12 unit is Tiger Basic spec (Std 1) with limit weapon support like 30mm gun, rocket and Mistral AA missile. If we buy it also have to make some upgrade on system to support anti-tank or small Anti-ship missile. if price more than USD 20 mil for each unit i think not so worth it.

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 30 2014, 08:20 PM)
We've ady had some ships from US before like Inderapura and the marines likely to get LDP from them
So it's not a really "unlikely" source

China? Fuuuu
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china got offer there smaller version (13000tons) Type 071 (Yuzhao-class 20k tons) are amphibious warfare ships

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price just around USD 200m (13000tons)

http://globalmilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2...zhao-class.html



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I think if we were offered high-end Chinese warships, we should take it. Really dun think Chinese at the moment designed and fabricated low quality military equipment for the defence of their Motherland..

If the ships in question are from indon, then it is a sorry state of our own local defence shipbuilding industry, which actually started way back in the 1970s, build some patrol vessel. Seems that that particular industry didnt progressed as it should be...too many songlaping and pepol trying to make a quick buck there
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Maybe can consider US navy Whidbey Island class dock landing ship 16000 tons, 2 off the this ship will retirement this year,  maybe RMN can buy it used as LPD.
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OHP offer came out of the blue nod.gif
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PUTD Helicopter Carrying Four Military Personnel Crashes

JOHOR BAHARU, Jan 31 (Bernama) An Army Air Corps (PUTD) helicopter, an Augusta A-109 LUH, crashed in the jungle near the Bekok Dam between 9pm and 10pm Thursday night, according to sources Friday.

However, all the four people on board the helicopter, which was on a training flight, were safe and had been taken to the Kluang District Hospital.

"The helicopter was on a night training flight before it crashed in the jungle near Bekok Dam in Segamat," said the sources.

The sources said that a PUTD rescue team had been despatched to the crash site and succeeded in taking the victims out before sending them to the Kluang Hospital at about 1am.

The four victims, including a foreign military officer with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel who was the flight instructor, did not suffer serious injuries, the sources added.

Bernama learnt that the foreign military officer was from France, while the other three people on board were locals holding the ranks of Major, Captain and a Sergeant.

The sources said the impact of the crash resulted in the tail and the rotor blades of the helicopter to break into two and the wheels of the aircraft were damaged badly.

"The helicopter was described as a total loss," the sources said.

According to the sources, night flight training involved high risks as the pilot had to rely on the 'night vision goggle' and other flight instruments in flying the helicopter.

Meanwhile, Batu Pahat OCPD ACP Din Ahmad, when contacted, confirmed receiving the report on the incident from the military this morning.

However, he said he was informed that the helicopter did not crash but had made an emergency landing due to problems faced by the aircraft.

He said no serious injury was reported on the four victims.

-- BERNAMA

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 31 2014, 03:10 PM)
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/ge/newsg....php?id=1011395

Hot news[SIZE=7]

PUTD Helicopter Carrying Four Military Personnel Crashes

JOHOR BAHARU, Jan 31 (Bernama) An Army Air Corps (PUTD) helicopter, an Augusta A-109 LUH, crashed in the jungle near the Bekok Dam between 9pm and 10pm Thursday night, according to sources Friday.

However, all the four people on board the helicopter, which was on a training flight, were safe and had been taken to the Kluang District Hospital.

"The helicopter was on a night training flight before it crashed in the jungle near Bekok Dam in Segamat," said the sources.

The sources said that a PUTD rescue team had been despatched to the crash site and succeeded in taking the victims out before sending them to the Kluang Hospital at about 1am.

The four victims, including a foreign military officer with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel who was the flight instructor, did not suffer serious injuries, the sources added.

Bernama learnt that the foreign military officer was from France, while the other three people on board were locals holding the ranks of Major, Captain and a Sergeant.

The sources said the impact of the crash resulted in the tail and the rotor blades of the helicopter to break into two and the wheels of the aircraft were damaged badly.

"The helicopter was described as a total loss," the sources said.

According to the sources, night flight training involved high risks as the pilot had to rely on the 'night vision goggle' and other flight instruments in flying the helicopter.

Meanwhile, Batu Pahat OCPD ACP Din Ahmad, when contacted, confirmed receiving the report on the incident from the military this morning.

However, he said he was informed that the helicopter did not crash but had made an emergency landing due to problems faced by the aircraft.

He said no serious injury was reported on the four victims.

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the plan to expand PUTD helo fleet to include medium-sized helos never really materialize

and now one chopper was written off. hope we bought another one to replace the lost one...

........

who was it who offers Mi-171 to PUTD and when the gomen dun wan then he switched side and become opposition?
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the plan to expand PUTD helo fleet to include medium-sized helos never really materialize

and now one chopper was written off. hope we bought another one to replace the lost one...

........

who was it who offers Mi-171 to PUTD and when the gomen dun wan then he switched side and become opposition?
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Japan Mulls Aircraft Carrier Future ?




Japan will reportedly fly surveillance drones from its destroyers as a possible prelude to building aircraft carriers.



Japan’s Maritime Self-Defense Force may begin flying unmanned surveillance drones from destroyers at sea as a possible prelude to procuring aircraft carriers, local media is reporting.

According to The Japan Times, “ The Maritime Self-Defense Force is considering deploying fixed-wing unmanned reconnaissance aircraft that can take off from and land on destroyers. ” If the plan is approved, the MSDFs intend to research these operations extensively.

“ Depending on its research, Japan might someday build an aircraft carrier equipped with fighter jets, ” The Japan Times report said, citing numerous unnamed sources. No details were provided about the affiliations of the sources that might help evaluate the credibility of their claims. However, the paper did report that a source in the Defense Ministry had said that the studies will not lead the MSDF to operate fighter jets from surface ships in the future. The Defense Ministry source did say that unmanned drones would be deployed on the ships, however, because these can operate in “ dangerous areas in emergencies. ”

The move to operate aircraft from surface ships is likely to spark concern and criticism from some states in the region, particularly China, which insists that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is seeking to break loose from the country’s post-WWII Pacifist constitution. As the report noted, although the MSDF currently flies helicopters from some of its ships, it has no experience flying fixed wing aircraft from its vessels because such a move could be construed as an offensive military capability, which Japan’s constitution prohibits.

Japan’s decision to only consider using (presumably unarmed) reconnaissance drones at this time was likely made, at least in part, with an eye toward deflecting the almost certain criticism that the move will provoke. By starting with unarmed aircraft, Japan could seek to gradually seek to make the region comfortable with it operating fixed wing aircraft from surface ships. Moreover, even if the Defense Ministry source is being truthful in saying that only drones and not fighter jets will be flown from Japanese ships, unmanned aircraft will become increasingly capable of being used in some of the same ways as bombers and jets in the years ahead.

Still, the decision to use surveillance drones is also consistent with Japan’s strategic interests. In particular, as Tokyo’s dispute with Beijing over the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands has dragged on, Japan has taken a number of steps to increase its surveillance capabilities over some of its outer lying islands. This has most certainly included fielding a capable drone force. As The Diplomat has previously reported, Japan intends to procure RQ-4 Global Hawk drones in the coming years to augment the ones the U.S. already maintains in Japan. The Japan Times report also quoted its sources as saying that Japan hopes to procure 19 of the new RQ-21 Blackjack small tactical unmanned drones currently being tested by the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.

One issue Japan will encounter if it moves forward with the plan is that its current destroyers are not equipped with takeoff and landing equipment for aircraft. It’s possible that one of the Izumo-class helicopter destroyers Japan is currently building and testing will be upgraded to have this capability. Japan unveiled the first of these new, large helicopter destroyers last year, which some in China called an “ aircraft carrier in disguise. ” Some have speculated that the larger size of the Izumo-class vessels was due to Japan’s desire to launch V22 Ospreys off the ships. However, the larger size may also allow Japan to use them to launch drones.



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I think if we were offered high-end Chinese warships, we should take it. Really dun think Chinese at the moment designed and fabricated low quality military equipment for the defence of their Motherland..

If the ships in question are from indon, then it is a sorry state of our own local defence shipbuilding industry, which actually started way back in the 1970s, build some patrol vessel. Seems that that particular industry didnt progressed as it should be...too many songlaping and pepol trying to make a quick buck there
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the problem now.is that we have issues with china

so it quite a high risk to purchase from possible enemy country. We will nvr know if they can sabotage us if needed.
I think the army also have this in their mind when doing large important purchases

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 31 2014, 11:56 AM)
the thing is, we can ask, it is up to the US to offer us
OHP offer came out of the blue  nod.gif
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Was the agusta helicopter totaled or not? Confused
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 31 2014, 10:54 PM)
the problem now.is that we have issues with china

so it quite a high risk to purchase from possible enemy country. We will nvr know if they can sabotage us if needed.
I think the army also have this in their mind when doing large important purchases
will be out in news if ask. congress have to be informed first
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The OHP is under congress monetary program (forgot the name already)
it was planned to give to other country for use,
iinm the offer to Malaysia is quite a surprise as the decision to named Malaysia as one of the potential receiver is unexpected and it is believed because of the Spratly issues and China incursion.

After Msia deny the offer, the Philippines offer themselves for teh OHP but the congress said.. meh~!
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Damn, thank god nobody seriously hurt or dead..

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The Malaysian Armed Forces (ATM) Agusta 109 helicopter made
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yup...hoping they buy another one to replace this
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OHP so tempting.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 1 2014, 12:07 AM)
Damn, thank god nobody seriously hurt or dead..

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Dunno why our govt want to splurge on expensive european helicopters.

They should buy the russian Mil-Mi helicopters, they are lot more cheaper, built tough and easier to maintain.
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Feb 1 2014, 10:43 AM)
Dunno why our govt want to splurge on expensive european helicopters.

They should buy the russian Mil-Mi helicopters, they are lot more cheaper, built tough and easier to maintain.
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if u google a bit, u can see Mil helicopters have more crash case than any European heli,
cheaper yes,
tough no,
easier to maintain, idk bout that, they say russian spare parts are very hard to get
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 1 2014, 12:34 PM)
if u google a bit, u can see Mil helicopters have more crash case than any European heli,
cheaper yes,
tough no,
easier to maintain, idk bout that, they say russian spare parts are very hard to get
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Military spare parts which one can get easily? I thought all should be hard to get their hands on it regardless which nations. hmm.gif
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Military spare parts which one can get easily? I thought all should be hard to get their hands on it regardless which nations.  hmm.gif
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russia parts from what I heard is very difficult to get when u are not nearby to each other. The nearest oem we can get is from india. They dont keep surplus and they only made it when requested or ordered.

military have their own market, of course civilian will have difficulties in getting military parts

american often salvage from their bone yard and keep a stock inventory. Russian is cheap but after service quite bad.

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Damn, thank god nobody seriously hurt or dead..

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Feb 1 2014, 10:43 AM)
Dunno why our govt want to splurge on expensive european helicopters.

They should buy the russian Mil-Mi helicopters, they are lot more cheaper, built tough and easier to maintain.
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>russian
>easier to maintain
>EASIER TO MAINTAIN

uhh no. sparepart macam setan nak carik. nanti nak sparepart, 1001 alasan diorang bagi. sparepart tak ready la, suruh bagi minyak sawit dulu la, itu la, ini la.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 1 2014, 12:34 PM)
if u google a bit, u can see Mil helicopters have more crash case than any European heli,
cheaper yes,
tough no,
easier to maintain, idk bout that, they say russian spare parts are very hard to get
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I cannot brain why cannot get russian parts. Vietnam and cambodia are our closest neighbors to use those helicopters.

Also there would be transfer of technology, the russians are willing to do so. We can even opt to pay via commodities like what we did with our MiG-29s last time.

It is normal for helicopters to crash. Ya think the blackhawk got very good service record ah? In Afganistan, several blackhawks crashed and they were not even shot at.
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Feb 1 2014, 05:38 PM)
I cannot brain why cannot get russian parts. Vietnam and cambodia are our closest neighbors to use those helicopters.

Also there would be transfer of technology, the russians are willing to do so. We can even opt to pay via commodities like what we did with our MiG-29s last time.

It is normal for helicopters to crash. Ya think the blackhawk got very good service record ah? In Afganistan, several blackhawks crashed and they were not even shot at.
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so is Mi-17, crashed mainly bcoz of technical issues..
i dun like blackhawk anyway

a quote from Georgia's Mindef which decided to change all russian helos in their arsenals to American utility helos
>>Defence Minister explained the reason for replacement of the Soviet helicopter fleet by the U.S. ones. "It is very expensive to maintain the Soviet helicopters. Procurement of the spare parts is problematic and in most cases it is practically impossible to get this service without corruption deals. Considering all the above-mentioned facts we took a hard but right and logical decision," declared Irakli Alasania."
sos

do Vietnam and Cambodia produce the spare parts? no

our air force will pick M-17V if there is no issue, but they didn't..and i believe there are strong reasons for why they didn't pick Mi-17..and choose more expensive Eurocopter..
it is normal for helicopter to crash, but would u pick a car that have more bad safety records than pick another car that's a bit expensive but rather better safety record?

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russia parts from what I heard is very difficult to get when u are not nearby to each other. The nearest oem we can get is from india. They dont keep surplus and they only made it when requested or ordered.

military have their own market, of course civilian will have difficulties in getting military parts

american often salvage from their bone yard and keep a stock inventory. Russian is cheap but after service quite bad.
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Haiz.. Any spare parts malaysia needs to get seems only can come from >1000km...


QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 1 2014, 05:52 PM)
so is Mi-17, crashed mainly bcoz of technical issues..
i dun like blackhawk anyway

a quote from Georgia's Mindef which decided to change all russian helos in their arsenals to American utility helos
>>Defence Minister explained the reason for replacement of the Soviet helicopter fleet by the U.S. ones. "It is very expensive to maintain the Soviet helicopters. Procurement of the spare parts is problematic and in most cases it is practically impossible to get this service without corruption deals. Considering all the above-mentioned facts we took a hard but right and logical decision," declared Irakli Alasania."
sos

do Vietnam and Cambodia produce the spare parts? no

our air force will pick M-17V if there is no issue, but they didn't..and i believe there are strong reasons for why they didn't pick Mi-17..and choose more expensive Eurocopter..
it is normal for helicopter to crash, but would u pick a car that have more bad safety records than pick another car that's a bit expensive but rather better safety record?
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I doubt a country would still prefer to obtain spare parts from a potential enemy country after all.
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Feb 1 2014, 05:38 PM)
I cannot brain why cannot get russian parts. Vietnam and cambodia are our closest neighbors to use those helicopters.

Also there would be transfer of technology, the russians are willing to do so. We can even opt to pay via commodities like what we did with our MiG-29s last time.

It is normal for helicopters to crash. Ya think the blackhawk got very good service record ah? In Afganistan, several blackhawks crashed and they were not even shot at.
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RMAF had a bad time with getting spare parts for our Migs, even parts for our Suks is from China.

Russian stuff might be cheaper up front, but very poor after sales service support which makes it expensive in the long run.
At least with the americans/europeans service level is there even though up-front it's expensive.
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btw eurocopter have their repair/overhaul facility here in malaysia. sounds like no brainer to buy russian helo when they don't even have anything in malaysia
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It much better to buy Russian non-moving or self-reliant system that does not requires frequent maintenance something like the surface to air missile or SAM

This is why russian main weapon exports are all missiles rather than vehicles. If Malaysia get S400 system one at kelantan and another at sabah, i think china wont even dare to fly into South china sea
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RMAF had a bad time with getting spare parts for our Migs, even parts for our Suks is from China.

Russian stuff might be cheaper up front, but very poor after sales service support which makes it expensive in the long run.
At least with the americans/europeans service level is there even though up-front it's expensive.
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problem with US is to get parts is alot of paperworks even though the parts is available
Alot of background check and alot of WHY WHAT HOW etc? doh.gif

europian? Nak kasi duit, here you go whistling.gif
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It much better to buy Russian non-moving or self-reliant system that does not requires frequent maintenance something like the surface to air missile or SAM

This is why russian main weapon exports are all missiles rather than vehicles. If Malaysia get S400 system one at kelantan and another at sabah, i think china wont even dare to fly into South china sea
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SAM no need maintenance kaa?? Every hardware ade maintenance bro... scheduled preventive maintenance.
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SAM no need maintenance kaa?? Every hardware ade maintenance bro... scheduled preventive maintenance.
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sure need la but the part replacement like in a vehicles should be less in a mostly stationary sam system
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sure need la but the part replacement like in a vehicles should be less in a mostly stationary sam system
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Missile dgn torpedo pun every week kena bukak buat voltage check... pengalaman aku la....x sure yg lain
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 1 2014, 08:14 PM)
It much better to buy Russian non-moving or self-reliant system that does not requires frequent maintenance something like the surface to air missile or SAM

This is why russian main weapon exports are all missiles rather than vehicles. If Malaysia get S400 system one at kelantan and another at sabah, i think china wont even dare to fly into South china sea
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SAM alot cost to maintenance specially super expensive batteries pack cost USD 150 million per-set for each S300 missile system. have to charge every week.
S400 not allow export yet, event allow to export, our cant afford it, cost each set S300 missile system around usd 500 million with maintenance, and buy 1 ~2 set S300/400 with 12~16 missile each set not really help much. just small matter for china missile power.

Anyway our gov also looking on china missile defense system, from KS-1 event now HQ-16 missile system. cost is main factor.

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 1 2014, 08:14 PM)
It much better to buy Russian non-moving or self-reliant system that does not requires frequent maintenance something like the surface to air missile or SAM

This is why russian main weapon exports are all missiles rather than vehicles. If Malaysia get S400 system one at kelantan and another at sabah, i think china wont even dare to fly into South china sea
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demmm~ straight away with long-range SAM..take it slow man..lets start with BUK-M1E first.. biggrin.gif
i'm actually more interested in China's missiles..heard their missiles have more range than US and Russian missiles..but cost is still a concern..
will it be cheaper if we provide the chassis for the missiles (like ACV-300 or K200 IFV)? hmm.gif

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ever since china has becoming a big douche nowadays,i've ruled out their product liao

unless small weapon system ("small" being "tactical-level". manpads, ATGM, armored patrol vehicle, etc),then i dun mind

at operational or strategic level (fighter aircraft, MBTs, medium to long range SAM), better find elsewhere
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 2 2014, 02:22 AM)
ever since china has becoming a big douche nowadays,i've ruled out their product liao
unless small weapon system ("small" being "tactical-level". manpads, ATGM, armored patrol vehicle, etc),then i dun mind
at operational or strategic level (fighter aircraft, MBTs, medium to long range SAM), better find elsewhere
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Maybe shud looks at our enemy's enemy

Taiwan Sky Bow
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Co-delevoped with US, the radar is comparable to PAC-3 version

S.Korea KM-SAM
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Looks like S-300 but close, they co-develop this with the russians

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Searching New Home for 13,000 MRAPs

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While pentagon planners are hoping to save money by scrapping thousands of mine resistant armor protected
(MRAP) vehicles bought only few years ago for over US$25 billions, defense contractors could bear heavy losses
if those vehicles are not maintained in operational use somewhere around the world. Wall Street Journal Robert Tita
reports that the Pentagon plans of scrapping 13,000 Used MRAPs would cut into replacement-parts business at Navistar,
Oshkosh and BAE.

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The Army, Marine Corps and other services intend to keep about 11,000 MRAPs. About 6,500 trucks are still being
used in Afghanistan, but the bulk of those will return stateside by the time the U.S. military withdrawal is completed
late this year. About 6,000 trucks—many of them, older models used in Iraq—already have been returned to the U.S.,
Another 1,600 or so are in Kuwait. Many of these vehicles will be scrapped, if new users aren’t found.

The Pentagon wants to give away 13,000 MRAPs “We’ve notified our friends and allies that we have MRAPs available
and if they want them they can have them,”
Alan Estevez, deputy undersecretary of defense for acquisitions, technology
and logistics said. Interest from foreign militaries has been tepid as these ultra-heavy vehicles that have operated in
Afghanistan have been worn out by the harsh terrain.


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This ex-military Caiman MRAP will be used to transport Fort Lee SWAT teams.
Local police bought the vehicle from the U.S. Department of Defense for just $2,000.

[Defence-Update]




Cheap used MRAPs anyone?
USD2k only per piece!
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pasal sistem peluru berpandu.. kata la Malaysia kata hendak beli dari Russia, tentera darat Malaysia akan dapat buat latihan bersama tentera russia di tempat bersalji macam di Sochi tu tak??

dahsyat gak tengok skill budak-budak Russia


tempat bersalji yang amat mengerikan di Russia


dalam sekelip mata sahaja Russia ubah ia jadi tempat untuk lawan sukan olimpik ohmy.gif


benda yang paling bagus, latihan di tempat bersalji ni ialah ia akan ajar manusia cara untuk jadi amat stabil..
sebab tu banyak pelumba terbaik di dunia ni terutamanya dari sukan rally banyak dari tempat bersalji seperti finland, manakala Russia pula perisik diaorang banyak kali lepas ujian polygraph USA

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problem with US is to get parts is alot of paperworks even though the parts is available
Alot of background check and alot of WHY WHAT HOW etc? doh.gif

europian? Nak kasi duit, here you go whistling.gif
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Marhalim Abas February 2, 2014 budget, Malaysian Army

SHAH ALAM: Before I go further, let me wish a Happy Lunar New Year to all those celebrating. Anyhow, I initially thought I will be hunkering down for the holidays and there was no need to update the site. But then came the reports that Malaysia was buying the Airbus Helicopters Tiger attack helicopter.

With various readers asking me about the report, despite the answers I gave in the comments section, I believed I need to respond to the questions in a separate post.

The original story about the Tiger came from the French defence magazine Air-Cosmos website. As the story was in French, I had to use Google Translate to read it.

The story was basically headlined “When Will Malaysia Signed the Contract for Tiger HAP?”. In short, it stated that Malaysia had asked for six Tiger helicopters to be delivered in early 2014. However, despite readying six Tiger HAP (support protection) from the stocks of the French Army Light Aviation (ALAT) there was no word when the contract will be signed. Nonetheless, the report said that Airbus Helicopters was confident that the project will continue in the near future as Malaysia was a good customer for its products.

Reading the story, I immediately understood what was reported – we gave an RFP and they responded. However, we have not followed up with a contract and therefore the project was pending.

As I had responded in the comments, the project will not proceed as no money was made available for it as I had mentioned previously in my review of the 2014 budget. Yes, I had posted stories on RMN and RMAF following the announcement of the budget but had not done so for the Army.

It is not for the lack of trying but for the lack of material. Like his predecessors, Army Chief Jen Datuk Raja Mohamed Affandi Raja Mohamed Noor is reticent to talk about specific platforms. When met two weeks back, Raja Mohamed Affandi said “No” three times to all of my questions regarding the 2014 budget. On why, he answered: “Tiada Fulus (No Money).

Following the publication of the Air-Cosmos story, I checked again with Jen Raja Mohamed Affandi and again he replied in the negative.

Anyhow, the word is that the decision to delay the Tiger project may now be tied to the the Marines Corps programme. On Jan 14, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein was reported as saying that Malaysia was mulling the idea of adopting the United States’ marines military model to further strengthen the Armed Forces maritime capacity. He said the ministry had invited United States maritime warfare experts to Malaysia to discuss the matter.

With US Marines working with the Armed Forces to formulate a military model for the Marine Corps, do you really think they will favour the Tiger? Yes, we will have a lot of say on the equipment specified for the new corps, my best guess is that the Tiger will not be in it.


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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 1 2014, 11:37 PM)
SAM alot cost to maintenance specially super expensive batteries pack cost USD 150 million per-set for each S300 missile system. have to charge every week.
S400 not allow export yet, event allow to export, our cant afford it, cost each set S300 missile system around usd 500 million with maintenance, and buy 1 ~2 set S300/400 with 12~16 missile each set not really help much. just small matter for china missile power.

Anyway our gov also looking on china missile defense system, from KS-1 event now HQ-16 missile system. cost is main factor.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 1 2014, 05:52 PM)
so is Mi-17, crashed mainly bcoz of technical issues..
i dun like blackhawk anyway

a quote from Georgia's Mindef which decided to change all russian helos in their arsenals to American utility helos
>>Defence Minister explained the reason for replacement of the Soviet helicopter fleet by the U.S. ones. "It is very expensive to maintain the Soviet helicopters. Procurement of the spare parts is problematic and in most cases it is practically impossible to get this service without corruption deals. Considering all the above-mentioned facts we took a hard but right and logical decision," declared Irakli Alasania."
sos

do Vietnam and Cambodia produce the spare parts? no

our air force will pick M-17V if there is no issue, but they didn't..and i believe there are strong reasons for why they didn't pick Mi-17..and choose more expensive Eurocopter..
it is normal for helicopter to crash, but would u pick a car that have more bad safety records than pick another car that's a bit expensive but rather better safety record?
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Our Bomba has chosen the Mi-17 as their fire helicopters. As of now, they have no problem with maintenance.
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Our Bomba has chosen the Mi-17 as their fire helicopters. As of now, they have no problem with maintenance.
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they only have a few and how do u know they dun have any problem?
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Even the Indian AirForce who operates a large fleet of Russian airplanes are turning to USA due to problems of getting spare parts.

IAF is getting C17, Apache and Chinook.

The IAF MRCA still hangs in the balance.

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China will never sell us their air defence system, we will surely use it against them one day.
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we already used china FN-6, also consider as Air Defence system, and lastime we already agree to buy China KS-1 SAM, just no money place order, china no problem sales to as all defence equipment in there export defense list. event many time our top military guy got invite to china to see military product and demonstration. include jet, ship etc.... no be surprise one day our country more and more using china hardware.

one more think our country no ability to again china in military or economic, event all asean country.

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they already offered to sell to us their advanced weapon systems..
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RMAF had a bad time with getting spare parts for our Migs, even parts for our Suks is from China.

Russian stuff might be cheaper up front, but very poor after sales service support which makes it expensive in the long run.
At least with the americans/europeans service level is there even though up-front it's expensive.
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Parts for MIG?
Airod happen, that why have a bad time to get parts

Some hard parts are from China, while the most parts are from India
until the Sukhoi Manufactured facilities at Perak is complete, the parts are taken from that 2 country!

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the french are most famous for "ada $, no questions asked".
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PAK FA stealth features patent published



Piotr Butowski, Poland - IHS Jane's International Defence Review

09 January 2014



Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA 5th Prototype (055)


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The PAK FA's designers have paid close attention to stealthy features, which include the use of radar-absorbent coatings on the reverse of the nose-mounted IRST, the widespread use of baffles and the use of absorbent coatings in the air intakes and at the junctions between moving surfaces.



Details of the Sukhoi Design Bureau's work on the stealthy aspects of the T-50 PAK FA fighter aircraft emerged in late December 2013, when the company's patents were published.

According to the patent paperwork, taken together, all of the stealthy measures offer significant improvements over legacy fighter designs. The papers claim that the radar cross-section (RCS) of an Su-27 was in the order of 10-15 m 2 , with the intention being to reduce the size of the RCS in the T-50 to an " average figure of 0.1-1 m 2 " .

In common with other low observable aircraft designs, this reduction is achieved throught the use of radar-absorbing and radar-shielding materials and coatings, panel shaping (especially around the air intakes) and in the design of the junctions between moving elements, such as flaps and hatches.

In particular, the patent spells out the benefits of internal weapons carriage, s-shaped engine air ducts, (which were considered but are actually not implemented in the production PAK FA), and the use of radar blockers. It adds that the inlet guide vanes of the engines' compressors generate "a significant portion [up to 60%] of the radar cross-section of the airframe-powerplant system in the forward hemisphere" and that this is reduced by using radar-blocking devices and radar-absorbing coatings in the walls of the air ducts.

The shape of the airframe reduces the number of directions that radar signals are reflected in with the angles of sweep of the wings and the tail plane's leading and trailing edges, the edges of the air intakes and hatch covers being reduced and deflected from the aircraft's axis. Viewing the aircraft from the flank, the fuselage sides, lateral edges of the air intakes and vertical empennage are all deflected at the same angle.

Some openings and slots on the airframe's surface - such as the boundary-layer bleeds on the sides of the air intakes and the openings on the upper fuselage immediately aft of the cockpit - are covered with a thick grid, featuring a mesh of less than one quarter of the wavelength of a search radar, which reduces the reflections from these uneven surfaces. Gaps between the airframe elements are filled with conducting sealants, while the glazing of the cockpit canopy is metallised.

The surfaces of the PAK FA's own five radar arrays are also angled off from the vertical plane, helping to ' deflect ' enemy radar signals. The covers of the radar arrays are selective, letting through their own signals, but blocking other frequencies. Additionally, the array compartments are edged with radar-absorbing ' curtains ' to reduce possible leaks of these amplified signals.

Antennas are recessed from the surface of the skin to reduce protuberances (the vertical empennage serves as a communications antenna), while the turret of the aircraft's nose-mounted infrared search-and-track (IRST) sight is rotated backwards into a cruise position, exposing its rear hemisphere, which is covered with a radar-absorbing coating.

The release of this list of patents follows the July 2013 release of documentation covering the configuration of the fighter's integrated avionics suite.

There are currently five T-50 prototypes - the latest, T-50-5, first flew on 27 October 2013 - supporting the development programme and they are believed to have undertaken over 300 sorties to date.

In the ' Schedule of Activity for the Russian Ministry of Defence for 2013 to 2020 ' published in mid-2013, the PAK FA's Initial Operational Capability and the launch of full-scale series production is scheduled for 31 December 2016. The Russian National Armament Programme stipulates that 60 production PAK FA fighters will be delivered between 2016 and 2020.

The assembly of aircraft T-50-6-1 is nearing completion and three further aircraft (T-50-6-2, T-50-7 and T-50-8) are in build. One of the T-50-6 aircraft is intended for static trials and the other one is intended for flight testing.



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Milli Muharip Ucak Kavramsal Tasarim Projesi


Jet Trainer and Fighter Aircraft Conceptual Design Project


At the Defense Industry Executive Committee on December 15th 2010; it has been decided to start contract negotiations with TAI in order to implement the conceptual design activities for Jet Trainer and Fighter Aircraft to the requirements of Turkish Air Force’s (TurAF) for 2020’s.

On August 23rd 2011 the contract has been signed between The Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) and TAI and the project has been initiated on September 29th 2011.
For a period of 2 years, based on the Turkish Air Force’s Jet Trainer and Fighter Aircaft requirements the following activities will be studied:

- Determining TurAF future Operational Requirements
- Requirement analysis studies
- Conceptual design of the aircraft and systems
- Researching the National Capacity and Capabilities.
- International Corporation models

At the end of the contract, the schedule and the budget of the development program will be estimated and submitted to SSM and TurAF for the further decisions.



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hello /k/omrades cool2.gif

can tell where to get latest military infos? like news and new military stuff cool2.gif

salute bros
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http://defensetech.org/2010/05/21/quality-.../#ixzz2sFb9FcIY

china made stuff,eh?

i tot we also bought Su-30 spares from them ?
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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ Feb 4 2014, 06:54 PM)
hello /k/omrades  cool2.gif

can tell where to get latest military infos? like news and new military stuff  cool2.gif

salute bros
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haloo
first page would give you idea
tough rentaka.weebly.com is a good start
it is more on news and update rather just article and discussion!

QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 4 2014, 08:01 PM)
http://defensetech.org/2010/05/21/quality-.../#ixzz2sFb9FcIY

china made stuff,eh?

i tot we also bought Su-30 spares from them ?
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Only the parts that are not available from india
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 4 2014, 08:29 PM)
haloo
first page would give you idea
tough rentaka.weebly.com is a good start
it is more on news and update rather just article and discussion!
Only the parts that are not available from india
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brader june ade event x? :3
x sabar nie
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QUOTE(souless223 @ Feb 4 2014, 08:42 PM)
brader june ade event x? :3
x sabar nie
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no that I know off
maybe nearing merdeka

don't worry, I will tell you punya lah
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A policeman attached with Federal police Special Branch unit was found dead, after he was believed to have been shot twice in the face, at Bukit Persekutuan in Kuala Lumpur, today.

Police found the body of the 37-year-old corporal after receiving a call at 4.30 pm.

The deceased was shot twice on the face, one shot pierced through his right cheek while the other through his right eye.

City police CID deputy chief ACP Khairi Ahrasa said the victim, whose identity was being held, was in plainclothes.

He said the body was found by a police patrol unit by the side of Jalan Negeri Sembilan at Bukit Persekutuan.

“We believe he was shot dead within one hour before the body was found, based on the initial checks on the body at the scene,” said Khairi. – February 4, 2014.


RIP

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 2 2014, 05:14 AM)
Searching New Home for 13,000 MRAPs
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Cheap used MRAPs anyone?
USD2k only per piece!
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waaaaa... civilian can buy?? drool.gif
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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Feb 4 2014, 09:12 PM)
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...-at-kl-roadside
RIP

Habis la, mintak D9 hambat sampai dapat pembunuh tu
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Thailand receives 1st batch of T-84 Oplot-M from Ukraine.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Boeing Vertical Lift Deliveries Up 15 Percent in 2013

AH-64E Transmission 'Glitch' Now Fixed

By Andrew Drwiega, International Bureau Chief

Boeing Vertical Lift delivered 15 percent more helicopters in 2013 than in the previous year,” said Leanne Caret, vice president and general manager, at a media gathering following the annual AUSA Army Aviation Symposium and Exposition in Washington, DC.

Pat Donnelly, JMR program director, said 50 Boeing employees were now based with Sikorsky in Connecticut and that the team was bonding as the JMR team. He said that the next milestone for the program would be the initial design and risk reduction view in June. “We are working in the wind tunnel now validating the design for 230 knots,” said Donnelly. The JMR team is now using a motion-based simulator and first flight of the demonstrator aircraft is still scheduled for 2017.

A relatively small problem with the new AH-64E’s transmission was identified then fixed over the festive period in December, explained David Koopersmith, vice president of attack helicopter programs. “A planetary ‘nut’ came loose in the transmission on an Echo model in December during a ground run,” he said. “We brought the transmission back, saw what was loose – did analysis – and came up with a fix.” He explained that it was a threaded item that came loose – of which there are five in the transmission. “We added two parts and one bolt so that it can never come loose again. The fix takes a day and a half and only affects the delivered AH-64E models in two Army units. These are the 1-229th Attack Reconnaissance Battalion (ARB) – the first unit equipped with AH-64E Guardian – and the still to be completed 1-25th ARB. No other versions of the Apache are affected.

A noteworthy point of interest is that the Apache AH-64 has now flown over one million combat hours in a global total of 3.8 million hours flown.


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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 2 2014, 08:03 PM)
we already used china FN-6, also consider as Air Defence system,  and lastime we already agree to buy China KS-1 SAM, just no money place order, china no problem sales to as all defence equipment in there export defense list. event many time our top military guy got invite to china to see military product and demonstration. include jet, ship etc....  no be surprise one day our country more and more using china hardware.

one more think our country no ability to again china in military or economic, event all asean country.
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bad idea. if china want to reclaim james shoal then our country will be in conflict with them. In that event, China will refuse to sell further missles, conduct maintenance, sell spare parts and upgrade our military equipment bought from them.
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Thailand receives 1st batch of T-84 Oplot-M from Ukraine.

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aiya so what? T-84 is a derivation copycat of the russian T-82 right?

i maybe wrong but was this the same tanks that russia used during the grozny incursion? In which hundreds of russian soldiers was killed and tanks destroyed by mere RPGs?

Any tank other than those that use the british chobham armor are useless. Tanks need to withstand shape charges. Russia or ukraine are not so advance in this area, relying on expensive reactive armors. Thats why in syria so many tanks were destroyed by mere RPG used by the FSA.

I not sure if these tanks use the new russian composite armor but like i said the best armor is the british chobham armor use by Challenger, Leopard, M1 tanks.
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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 5 2014, 10:18 AM)
Thailand receives 1st batch of T-84 Oplot-M from Ukraine.
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Look small, macam mini tank compared to the giant leopard and abram

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aiya so what? T-84 is a derivation copycat of the russian T-82 right?

i maybe wrong but was this the same tanks that russia used during the grozny incursion? In which hundreds of russian soldiers was killed and tanks destroyed by mere RPGs?

Any tank other than those that use the british chobham armor are useless. Tanks need to withstand shape charges. Russia or ukraine are not so advance in this area, relying on expensive reactive armors. Thats why in syria so many tanks were destroyed by mere RPG used by the FSA.

I not sure if these tanks use the new russian composite armor but like i said the best armor is the british chobham armor use by Challenger, Leopard, M1 tanks.
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iinm, during a show on National Georpahic, russion tank warfare doctorate is not armor protection but small and fast tanks that is able to punch through enemy line quickly. Tank Blitzkrieg

The image below show how small is Russion MBT T90 vs American Abram

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The problem however is during modern war like in city where their speed is significantly reduce making them a sitting ducks together with not so advance armor make the problem worse.

But then again, those russion active protection system is much more developed compared to US



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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Feb 5 2014, 01:09 PM)
aiya so what? T-84 is a derivation copycat of the russian T-82 right?

i maybe wrong but was this the same tanks that russia used during the grozny incursion? In which hundreds of russian soldiers was killed and tanks destroyed by mere RPGs?

Any tank other than those that use the british chobham armor are useless. Tanks need to withstand shape charges. Russia or ukraine are not so advance in this area, relying on expensive reactive armors. Thats why in syria so many tanks were destroyed by mere RPG used by the FSA.

I not sure if these tanks use the new russian composite armor but like i said the best armor is the british chobham armor use by Challenger, Leopard, M1 tanks.
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orang main tandem charge warheads and KEP (kinetic energy penetrator) liao

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 5 2014, 01:48 PM)
orang main tandem charge warheads and KEP (kinetic energy penetrator) liao
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guna depleted uranium armor packs...but only M1 tanks got.


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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 5 2014, 01:41 PM)
Look small, macam mini tank compared to the giant leopard and abram
iinm, during a show on National Georpahic, russion tank warfare doctorate is not armor protection but small and fast tanks that is able to punch through enemy line quickly. Tank Blitzkrieg

The image below show how small is Russion MBT T90 vs American Abram

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The problem however is during modern war like in city where their speed is significantly reduce making them a sitting ducks together with not so advance armor make the problem worse.

But then again, those russion active protection system is much more developed compared to US
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i think you refering to ww2 is it? the t-10 with its slant armor.

on another note, do t-90 have the same problem as the t-72?

last time in iraq war....the t-72 mudah letup because the ammo not well protected. some more they stuff 3 men into the turret (to give it small and low profile) making it dangerous, they say the auto loader can easily chop off the operators hands if not careful.
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nope documentary on the new t-90

memang from last time russion design their tank small and fast. The main purpose of auto loader is for fast shoot, reload and shoot again, Basically tank machine gun

Crew russion no need worry, dia ada banyak orang boleh mati andf alot of tanks to spare any way


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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 5 2014, 01:58 PM)
nope documentary on the new t-90

memang from last time russion design their tank small and fast. The main purpose of auto loader is for fast shoot, reload and shoot again, Basically tank machine gun

Crew russion no need worry, dia ada banyak orang boleh mati andf alot of tanks to spare any way
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actually old design tank auto loaders are slower than skilled human loader.
only recently has tank auto loader match or surpass human loader.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 5 2014, 01:41 PM)
Look small, macam mini tank compared to the giant leopard and abram
iinm, during a show on National Georpahic, russion tank warfare doctorate is not armor protection but small and fast tanks that is able to punch through enemy line quickly. Tank Blitzkrieg

The image below show how small is Russion MBT T90 vs American Abram

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The problem however is during modern war like in city where their speed is significantly reduce making them a sitting ducks together with not so advance armor make the problem worse.

But then again, those russion active protection system is much more developed compared to US
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You can see the comparision in size of the T-84 Yatagan (Turkish Oplot variant fitted with a 120mm smoothbore gun) from it's competitor that includes Leopard 2, M1 Abrams & Leclerc. This was 1997/98 pictures of the Turkish MBT tender trials in which the Leopard 2 won.

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 5 2014, 02:02 PM)
You can see the comparision in size of the T-84 Yatagan (Turkish Oplot variant fitted with a 120mm smoothbore gun) from it's competitor that includes Leopard 2, M1 Abrams & Leclerc. This was 1997/98 pictures of the Turkish MBT tender trials in which the Leopard 2 won.

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look like small and fun to drive around tongue.gif
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Type 10 mbt ftw. tongue.gif
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Type 10 mbt ftw. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 5 2014, 02:13 PM)
i prefer K2 Black Panther  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 5 2014, 02:43 PM)
Meh k2 quite heavy.
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