Gigabyte G31M-S2L and Asus P5KPL-AM is very popular among all G31 board , The gigabyte cost more RM10 than Asus. Performance wise , both are performing similar and decent BIOS option for light OC . From wat i see, Gigabyte G31M-S2L seems has slightly better OC result than asus. But i still prefer Asus Yes, They support PCIE 1.1

may i know wat different between EG31M-S2 and G31M-ES2L in gigabyte motherboard... sorry noob in gigabyte motherboard...

The board layout for starters is quite different. The floppy connector, the front panel header, system fan header etc, are all in different places. Most notably the GA-EG31M-S2 is physically bigger than the GA-G31M-ES2L and it features 4 phases instead of 3. The S2 also features an additional COM port, 8Mbit BIOS chips instead of 4MBit and a HD surround/center speakers header.

Here is the main spec difference:
GA-G31M-ES2L / GA-EG31M-S2 - Audio: 8ch ALC883 / 8ch ALC888
GA-G31M-ES2L / GA-EG31M-S2 - BIOS: Physical Dual BIOS / Virtual Dual BIOS
GA-G31M-ES2L / GA-EG31M-S2 - Easy Energy Saving / Dynamic Energy Saving

Honestly, that not much of a difference, so you will be okay.

wow, good explanation.... thanks ya..
probably i will consider EG31M-S2... since that you said gigabyte slightly better in OC compare with Asus P5KPL-AM...
btw this EG31M-S2 built all in solid capacitor?

Only in cpu VRM area. Btw, most shop are selling G31M-S2L , u might have problem hunting the S2

so what yours opinion in P5KPL-AM?
u really rock... so fast reply...thank ya..

P5KPL-AM got nice look and i am asus fan boy

so P5E VM HDMI a like loh

but still it's a nice upgrade for the old king of matx mobo loh ....

i'm back =_= hahaha...

your XQBOX casing can fit in 4870x2?

i dun have money to buy the card , but i can 100% sure it can fit

if can fit in 4870x2 then sure can fit in 9800GX2, GTX series....
soon will upgrade to GTX series GC.... now hunting my mobo 1st....

Thats easy only , bring RM170 and go shop to buy a P5KPL-AM la Or if u like , bring RM305 and buy a P5QPL-VM loh, no need thinking too much Or if u want higher end mobo , G45 or Nvidia 9300 chipset at RM4xx , if that still not enuff for u , bring RM5xx to buy a DFI JR p45 But.. no need so powerful la Use G31 enuff la ,hihihi

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Added on February 22, 2009, 11:31 amOi bob, if u still not yet finish ur setup dun back here

This post has been edited by xk2: Feb 22 2009, 11:31 AM

ya i also thinking to get G31..since i only mild OC... My QX6800 produce a lot heat compare to the other Quad core, so I cant OC much in this SFF casing...... G31 will suit my need...
which SFF casing nice? tranformer? or XQBOX?

XQBOX better, i hav both and there is more space in the XQBOX for adding ventilation. transfomer(G326) is smaller, not much space for extra fans and the psu is halfway outta the box(not very efficient cooling)

Xqbox have great value with nice interior but dun expect too much for the build quality ( it fine for me) , cannot compare it with those expensive casing, Transformer have special look but i dun like the interior, u will have the limit to expand ur hardware.

Some poison site :
SFF section @ Hardforum
Feel free to browse through SFF galary @ Hardforum


These are the some of the cheap micro atx casing (below RM300)
Link to XQBOX sales thread #1 ( duno still available or not)

Link to XQBOX sales thread #2

Link to Transformer sales thread

Link to #2 Transformer sales thread

this thread really poison kaw kaw... until i wan to sell off my great Thermaltake Casing, P5N-D mobo & Deepcool Iceblade Pro....
now hard to make decision whether wan get Asus P5KPL-AM or Gigabyte G31M-S2L
I have mild OC, hardcore play game like crysis.....

I notice that P5KPL-AM use 24pin EPS 12v power connector, is that my corsair VX550W able to use?

This post has been edited by subrok007: Feb 22 2009, 12:24 PM

hahaha... finish liao, else how to online wor? everything dump in the sff, but i can't use my x-fi elite pro card, tat card start to collect dust from now, y? coz only 1 pci slot on the JR, i use it for my haupage 1300 HVR card =_="
later upload some pic take by my phone.


indeed... poison SFF thread, small / cute / and POWERFULL ... but heat always a problem for SFF, unless u go WC it....

Bob , swap my fatality with ur elite-pro wan ? dun let it collect dust ,sayang

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Added on February 22, 2009, 4:12 pmWhy not ?

This post has been edited by xk2: Feb 22 2009, 04:12 PM

tat one will leave it with my case and wc set collect dust together till futher upgrade haha