I believe this factually not correct because in your website which you suggested me to click, it stated:
"A group of valuation officers from DBKL’s Property Management and Valuation Department have come up with a new Annual Value for each property"

i.e. these are local council's valuation department. Unless you are telling me they report back to JPPH for total country aggregation? Can you pls confirm again?

btw, my property is in Selangor hence not affected. So am just throwing out possible queries which may be useful to all.

for the sake of transparency can you post DBKL's P&L here to justify the hike?

Boss u hav not answered le. I accepted ur explanation on rental part. Wat bout own use w/o rental??? How to justified???

% on biz revenue or on biz gross profit or on biz nett profit???

Or just pandai pandai throw guli pluck numbers???

Just curious and guess u r the rite man to provide the answer.

So now, the issued would be again back to my initial question. How do we ascertained DBKL's valuation matches MOF's valuation?

So based on the Annual Valuation notice given by DBKL, should one go and purchase Annual Property Market Report from MOF's JPPH (which contains detailed scheme valuation report) to assess whether the value are comparable?!

My personal belief is not enough transparency because how many guys out there know of such reports or have access to such information to dispute what might or might not be questionable?! That is why everyone is irked when the mayor says out of xxxx populations, only yyyy objected. Because the other zzzz might not understand all this thing. Even more so for those without access to the internet.

My personal opinion is City Hall should be transparent enough to quote sources in their notices so everyone is well informed.

I believe us with the likes of Sikit2JadiBukit is not interested in "general" numbers. Eg. Operating expenses as stated, what does it includes? Development Expenditure - what does it includes? See.. for Other income sources*, they did put down details albeit vague: "Other income sources include selling DBKL’s own assets, collecting development fees from development projects within KL, tapping into DBKL’s own cash reserves as well as Government grants.".

But again, I doubted you would have the liberty of disclosing the nitty gritty to us, the general public.

How u back that it is not true?

the valuation is done by your officer.

will u published the areas valuation in domain web to clear no race discrimination? Open n transparent

This format is a challenge to the professionalism of the way bank's valuation method. It's contradicting.

Anw to for ur unconvincing method.

Thank you. Probably it will be wise to have a source link so ppl like me would not be asking similar question i.e. pointed to one link then need to clarify before getting another link.

Just an input.

Cost rise but their income also increased. Last time where got so many condo?

Take cyberjaya as example, it is the same number of road but a lot of units, say 50000 more units with RM200 each unit = RM10m additional income yearly even without price hike, and DBKL do not maintain condo except for garbage collection.

Do you need RM10m to collect garbage? 
Do you even need additional 50%-100% income to collect garbage? 

When more high rises are built, mean less flat lands to be taken care of. More so when high rises consist of more units per acre means higher income collecting vs less area to maintain. Furthermore strata high rises have their own maintenance team which do not need any help from dbkl. I find no reason they increase the burden of rakyats just for their own benefit. 

Btw do you mean more population caused more rubbish that's why dbkl needs more money??? But still dun see a cleaner kl. And what did dbkl do to stop flash flood??? Perancang that dun rancang???

Ok how about of the RM199.7 million spent in 2013 to handle garbage how was this money used? Which part of KL required the most expenditure, which part of garbage collection is outsourced, how many trucks need to be in operation. If the root cost of rising cost is INEFFICIENCY then DBKL is just passing the buck right. Nowadays we are expected to do more with less, so why can't DBKL.

you must be kidding me, go to KL town are for example petaling street. u see a lot of foreigners, beggers, kutu-rayau and illegal aliens stray along the area. those sampah masyarakat tarnish the area making life difficult for shop owners. not forgetting adding burdens to DBKL to maintain the infra. they steal, rob, destroy public ammenities. they also urinate at residence and commercial areas. making hell of stench for all. yet unfair residence are paying on their behalf. they collect money from dbkl parking lots. whereby we already paid and those freaks scrathes our cars and puncture our tyres. this is seriously alarming bad.

why not dbkl enforcement officers come nab them all. show no mercy and teach them a lesson they never forget. the govt has to do their part also to deprive them from coming back.

What evidence do you want? Take a look around and open your eyes, the main angst on the hike is because many people perceive DBKL to be incompetent and inefficient by providing an inadequate level of service.

I am telling you DBKL is inefficient, you tell me to lodge report. 

I am not asking you whether or not their accounts are audited, I am asking you how was the money spent? Instead of raising the cukai is it not possible DBKL can reduce their costs?

Can you show some solid documents for the 170mil spent on building roads???

Otw it's just another empty talk.

Or do you know that many roads around all developments require the developers or land owners to bear the costs???

Anw thanks again for your not so convincing reply.

Btw I will suggest you get it right the the tnb bill before you continue. Please breakdown the figure / total street lamps. Then you will be surprise. If you know what I'm trying to tell you.

After the elections, the roads around my house were all nicely done up. Thanks to DBKL for that.

However, a lot of drain covers are missing and this is dangerous to pedestrians. Don't DBKL have some one to do checks on this ? I am talking about a major roads ie Jalan Ampang itself and not some small road far from city centre.

Along Jalan Raja Chulan in front of Pavillion, tourist buses always park by the road side even during rush hours.
I know Pavillion has parking spot for tourist buses but it is not used for these buses.
For the sake of say 120 tourist from say 3 buses to go shopping, thousands of Malaysian cars has to endure a jam as the buses reduce the road by one lane.
I have called SPAD and complained before but it is still happening.
Is this the responsibility of the traffic police, SPAD of DBKL to ensure the tourist buses are not blocking the road ?
When you go to other countries like Singapore and Hong Kong the tour buses dare not even stop too long on the road as they get fined.

Why is DBKL is slower than MPAJ to issue the assessment notice ? I have already paid the assessment for Jan to Jun 2014 for my property under MPAj but yet to receive the assessment notice from DBKL. Even the assessment for 1st half of 2013 was issued late.

Lastly, you mentioned that if I stay in the property then there is some discount but I have to write in. What documents is required to be submitted and what is the discount ?

Appreciate you clarification to the above.

PS I am quite happy with the new rates as I am paying less for assessment due to the reduction to 4%

MyKLTalks
Let me put this bluntly since we are of LYN moderating team.

LYN is an open forum for all walks of life to register an account to post, including you. So I would just like to say our forum should not be held liable in case someone intends to pursue defamation suit.

You should very well know what I meant
To the rest, probably pls be mindful and responsible on your posts

Catch 22 isn't it? I tell you there is damning evidence DBKL is inefficient, you turn a blind eye and tell me to provide proof and tell me to report to a department within the organization which is inefficient in the first place. Aren't we just going round in circles now?

You throw out stats like RM199 million spent on collecting garbage, yet.. you can't even justify to me whether or not this RM199 million is a) necessary b) spent efficiently

Example:

Worker: Boss I need a raise, rising cost going up lah
Boss: Sure, but I have to tell you the quality of work is not up to standard, please improve you want to be recognized as world class right? you need to be more efficient too and spend wisely
Worker: Boss, please provide proof and write in and complain to my secretary kkk?

Dear MYKL Talks, please stay in Sri Selangor Flat for 20 years (for you 20 days enough) then you will know what is efficiently and money is well spent ! Sinking Tar Road, Traffic Light see me and i don't see the light, Lift kill people and not to mention only one or none lift working at most of the time, walk staircase is nightmare with water dripping and always no light, walk corridor will have people throw rubbish sometimes washing machine tv orange apple nasi lemak and if you're lucky it just some wash feet water, parking car will get tayar pancit, parking motor will missing, playground occupied by drug trafficking aka dealer, rubbish house at the most corner and need to walk 15 minutes and it's full until roadside, there is kompleks perniagaan without chair,  badminton hall with holes, and good thing is there's few more trees left at playground, advantages of doing more charity work because many old people not dare to go outside to buy food because the lift auto close when they go in with wheelchair.. and this is World Class experience... Maybe you can go Cheras in front of Warisan Cityview see people dig the same hole every two days once for few years.. I haven't mention the road to Jalan Ampang,  outskirt of KL.. Dear DBKL Please reach to me, i'm available and please give all KL Citizens an affordable home, affordable road, affordable education, affordable goods and foods.. If i did not receive reply with 24 hours means you failed me.. Thank you..

My specific questions are the same as raised by the blogger which I will repost here for you to answer:

"To address the unhappiness of Kuala Lumpur residents, we hope DBKL will provide further clarity and transparency on the following questions :-

a)    How much more assessment tax revenue will DBKL actually get after the revised assessment value and rates? The amount stated by DBKL appears understated relative to the scale of increases most of us will pay. If that is the case, are some residents getting far lower assessment tax than others?

b)    What is the basis of computing assessment value? I know it is rental income (implied or actual) but what are the reliable sources of information or database used? DBKL should make the entire list of assessment values for all properties in KL available on the Internet. This will allow every resident the ability to check their assessment value against all others, in the interest of fairness and transparency.

c)  A failure to be transparent would likely give the impression of possible biases in the way assessment values are determined, leading some residents to feel they are being penalized for choices they previously made.

d)    How will the additional collections be spent? Tax payers have the right to demand accountability and responsibility. DBKL plans big spending under its 2014 Budget, but what are they for, and are they justified? Should DBKL be embarking on a spending spree when the whole country – including the Federal Government -- is tightening the belt? Why are its spending patterns and budgets so different from the Federal Government’s? As I have written in previous articles on this issue, DBKL is already spending more than other municipalities per person.

e) Are Kuala Lumpur residents also now expected to pick up DBKL’s bill for development expenditure, via the higher assessment taxes? Development expenditure for Kuala Lumpur has always been funded from the Federal government’s Development Budget, for which residents are already paying high personal income and corporate taxes. If so, then it amounts to new taxation."

To add on, what is DBKL's plan to reduce manpower since statistics have clearly shown that DBKL is having one of the highest staff to population ratio in the WORLD!
Kindly refrain from using phrases such as "I believe", "it was noted from", etc.
It lacks credibility and besides, quite a number here have already requested for some credibility from your end. A simple attachment showing something ought to give you more creditworthiness in all your replies.
I would like to strongly refute this statement of yours. With more application for developments or refurbishment, developers are subjected to development and planning charges. These also would include contributions to ISF and DBKL security fund.
You claim DBKL have built roads at a cost of RM170mil. But how much of the RM170mil were from DBKL own fund or is it collection from others i.e. Development and planning charges.
Some if not most are basically contributed by developers.
Kindly advise whether the pedestrian walkway from Pavillion to KL Convention Centre is funded by DBKL or Petronas?
Roads. Potholes. Etc. It is to my understanding that each excavation on the surface requires a permit + deposit to undertake these tasks. Despite this, why are roads still so unpleasant within the city? More often than not, I have personally been asked many a times by tourists nearby KLCC/Jalan Bukit Bintang on why aren't the roads in a better shape when these are supposedly Malasyia's most iconic street/area?
Rivers. Are these under DBKL or JPS or DID's jurisdiction in terms of maintenance? If you are doing it on behalf of other department, why not backcharge the party at fault? Why use the KL Citizen funds instead?
Traffic System. What traffic system? How much does this accounts for the overall budget?
Pedestrian Walks. How much was contributed from ISF fund collected?
Public Parks. How much was commission in the past 5 years? How much was spend on landscaping alone in the city?
Recreational centers, sports hall. Again at what cost and statistics of benefits reaped from these ventures? These venues are usually funded by other departments and handed over local councils to maintain. Maintenance charges can be recouped vide rental charges. Why are so many centers such as badminton courts, squash courts, the velodromme in such bad condition with practically no maintenance at all?

I look forward to your precise and detailed replies on queries raised above.
Thank you.