Well, post me the ingredients, then I will comment on it


Its not oil-free, you are right but the oil is not synthetic oil. As if you know more about acne, you will realise that petrolatum or the mineral oil will not clog the pores and furher cause acne, ONLY synthetic oil that human creates will clog pores. In Neutrogena, its the mineral oil, its for moisturizing purpose, so no worry.

Anyway, it really applies to everything. If you are sensitive to alcohol, should put aside toner stuff, it will swell you up. Anyway, use your common knowledge.


Jinyee

Shouldn't be a problem, you may go for this product and please do quote us the pricing, so others could buy it as Neutrogena willing not be selling NOTS in Malaysia anymore.



Jinyee

I can't find the PURE & MILD cleansing oil for blackhead either in Guardian or Watson. Will try to call up their HQ tomorrow.

Well, answering two questions combined. Well, pressing acne upfront is incorrect. So, what you can do right now is to try to prevent new acne from forming yet taking good care of your skin and let it rejuvenate itself. Perhaps you can consume some collagen products to enhance the process but yet, scientific result is not proven for the intake of collagen will accelerate the heal of scars. Anyway, some believe it will help while there's still no evidence show it would not help. What I believe in collagen is that, it will build a foundation on your body and let your skin rejuvenate itself.

Oily, its ok, you can't change that much but perhaps for a guy to use a concealer or foundation will be too girlish, so let it be. otherwise you can purchase Clean& Clear Oil film and remove the facial oil from period to period.

Dragz, use cetaphil + NOTS , it will really helps. No toner is required in this regimen. Its simple to follow, even to guy or gal.

I don't really know any dermatologist nearby that area. But in KL there will be some who are reputable. You should take accutane already in your case and prepare for the worst side effect should you determine to proceed.

Why not try the regimen that I recommend highly to those who have stubborn acne for years. It really helps because we actually do not need to put this and that to our skin, sometimes something simple will do.



Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Sep 10 2006, 08:55 PM

It will fade when time goes by. The action taken to accelerate the heal will actually reverse the outcome. You might end up with other skin problem. Well, go back to my old word of wisdom - let the skin heal up by itself. Otherwise you can try applying mask or consume some higher protein food such as soya milk and etc. it may help. But will take longer time.

What is ISOREX?Any link?

I need more info in order to provide comment. Maybe you can search it throughout google and provide me direct link to the website. But, if the product contains other active ingredient besides Benzoyl Peroxide, then it will not be encouraged.


For scars, I would recommend elicina but we could not get it locally. You all can get more info about this product at http://www.elicina.com . It is using the mother nature way to heal skin



Jinyee

Yes, it really depends on the tendency of your skin.

Yup, my bad for spelling it wrongly. Its basically isotrenotoin,in other word, its vitamin A. I think its unnecessary for your current situation. Benzoyl Peroxide is better as it acts against the root of the problem. Should you intend to apply that ISOTREX, for long term, you will feel that your face is gona peel off regularly and will get reddish very easily.

Big acne or small acne will do for the regimen that I suggested. Its CETAPHIL anyway.

I did call, but the correspondent person, Sharon, she said she will call me back to let me know the main reason. So, as soon as I get the reason, I will straight away post-up.


Jinyee

The cycle for acne, from its buildup, formation until the dryout is around 28-30days. You have been using Cetaphil for a week and already see the acne to dry up fast, thats really a good sign . You still have new acne popping up because they are just completing their cycle before you have started to use Cetaphil.

For your information, our skin will require 1.5-2.5months to adapt to the cleanser. So, its no point keep on changing within weeks because it wouldn't really help. Stick onto Cetaphil and in long term you will discover the smoothness texture of your skin.

Sure, after you washed your face, you will be able to see your acne clearer because you have washed out the previous sebum.

Who has been using Cetaphil for more than 1.5months? Please comment.



Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Sep 13 2006, 11:55 PM

Its normal. It will heal by its own. So, no worry about it. If you intend to accelerate the process by using those products containing lightening or whitenning active ingredients, you might get adverse result.


Need to know how many you all gonna purchase, therefore I could negotiate with the correspondent person.




Jinyee

Its not necessary to make toner into compulsory. It really depends on situation. However, I did not really recommend any toner out there because I still do not have confident to really suggest one. Moisturizer will only be a MUST if you stayed in Air-cond room.

If you are acne prone, then try CETAPHIL+ NOTS or otherwise you could substitute NOTS with PanOxy. I would require someone to help me to post the image of PanOxy in this thread.

Just put away the Biore for Men, it did not really helps in long term. Switching to CETAPHIL will let you see its long term result. Skin is smooth in texture and yet not acne prone.

Again, toner is not in compulsory. Just put it out of the regimen because some toner really contains fragrance or other ingredients that do not really contribute. Oily skin is alright. Try the regimen I suggested. Switch your daily facial cleanser to CETAPHIL and you will definately see the difference. Why your skin has blackheads? Because the sebum+dirt+P.acne are blocked inside the pores, it cannot get out, hence contribute to the formation of acne. How to prevent this from happening? I mean the cycle of acne from the beginning?

Since, P.acne is an anaerobic bacteria, we will use product that contains Benzoyl Peroxide to pump in more oxygen, therefore the bacteria would not be able to survive. So, the cycle stops, and acne is not formed. Before killing the bacteria, you need to remove the surface sebum first, and CETAPHIL will does the job. It cleanse your skin mildly, without stripping out the essential good facial sebum which this sebum will help to shield your skin from other harmful bacterias. CETAPHIL is so mild that you would not irritate the skin, therefore building a good foundation to your skin itself to manage its own. When the skin can function well, it will automatically turn on its shield against other skin problem.

My purpose to suggest MILD cleanser is to let the skin to heal or cure its own. Rather than applying tonnes of skin products that may cost you a fortune, why not you let the skin to do its job? Pollution, Sun Exposure, Inconsistent temperature, air cond and bla bla conditions will harm the skin, therefore is essential to let the skin to act by its own rather than when the problem comes, you go to the counter to buy this and that. Prevent is always better than cure, agree?


Jinyee

Go for CETAPHIL Gentle Skin cleanser. Remember, ONLY look for this.


I did NOT recommend this, put it aside.


For moisturizer, you might go for Neutrogena Moisture for sensitive skin.



Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Sep 15 2006, 09:49 PM

Himalaya claimed its products are natural. Take a look on their ingredients, see how NATURAL they are. Put it aside.

Don't get everything complicated. For those who still have ACTIVE acne,
CETAPHIL-> NOTS -> Moisturizer ( optional )

For those who have OCCASIONAL acne ( means that 1 to 3 acnes per month ),
CETAPHIL->NOTS -> Elicina

For those who don't have acne already, but still have acne marks
CETAPHIL-> Elicina.


Don't mix up everything and apply tonnes of products on your skin at once. It cannot breathe. Use common sense because imagine you yourself cover your body with a lots of clothes. You will obviously feel warm, hot then sweat. When you sweat a lot, your body produce more lactic acid.

And another word, please be PATIENT, its the KEY word because you can't expect acne to get away within days. Give yourself until 2.5months to see result. Normally, a person with severe acne until he is totally clear will take approx 12 months. Then, after the 12 months, he can start to apply product to heal acne scars.



Jinyee

Scrub and mask. Hmm...can't really recommend a product that really 100% convince me. Maybe u could go for Sk-II.


Jinyee

You are right. You got the exact item to start my regimen.

Do NOT use over 2.5% of BP. It irritates skin. Please visit lots of Watsons and Guardian because I believe some of them might keep old stocks but the expiry date is still far. I am now trying to find alternatives for you all. Please keep yourself update by visiting this thread regularly to know more.

Use CETAPHIL and NOTS for 2.5months, then you post up your photo again. The before and after will be significant. The key word - PATIENT.



Jinyee

That's the problem, because Neutorgena does not intend to market its NOTS in Malaysia anymore. We have scarcity for that product. I am trying to get something which can substitute NOTS for you all.

Wash your face with CETAPHIL, then apply NOTS on acne prone area. That's all. Don't be stingy, apply in generous dosage and smear it evenly and let it dry. Remember, for the 1st week, use it once per two night, then at the 2nd week, start using it once per night. That's all. DO NOT use it twice per day and use it on daytime!



Jinyee

Benzoyl Peroxide tends to bleach and when its expose under sunlight, it will cuase post inflammantory hyperpigmentation. In other word, it will turn a black or brown spot which is so obvious after your acne healed when you apply BP to your acne during the day.

Do some research regarding Benzoyl Peroxide. Know why some people's acne did not stop until certain period? Because they do not have knowledge on what they apply to their face. Anyway, know more about what you apply on your skin, then you will know what to do and what not to do.


Jinyee

Obtained from: Dan's acne organization

What kind of resources, please quote its name. I would like to read further more.

Well,sometimes you have no choice. Okie, lets quote an example. Everyone knew that accutane is dangerous, its side effects are so significant which you might end up with liver and kidney damage or even worst, you may born out an abnormal baby but people still intend to take on the risk. What do you see from this outcome? When it is talking about acne, and especially acne on your face, and you have tried a lots and put a lots of efforts of heal it but yet it still pop out, you will go for the extreme and ultimate solution.

Benzoyl Peroxide if using in long term, will or will not cause skin cancer, no one actually knew it. But to a person who develops acne and feel depressed on it, would you think that he will be dying out to try other alternative rather than thinking of maybe he might die one day due to the usage of acne products which will cause him cancer in long term.

I have tried to choose the most least side effect products for you all. Eventually, its still up to you to decide on whether you wan to have a try or not. I am not forcing you, right?

I am not using SKII frequently. Nothing is natural unless you plant your own aloe vera and pluck it to apply it as a mask on the spot.


It really depends. After you wash your face, pat it dry and do not ever expose yourself under direct air-cond or fan. Obviously the moving air will drag the moisture around your skin away. Then, you will feel tight. Its really not necessary if you are not sleeping in air-cond environment. The temperature is hot in malaysia and if you apply tonnes of products on your face every single night, you will end up messing things on your face. When your face got upset, you will know the outcome.


Well, try my regimen and you wouldn't get the outcome that you stated above anymore.

It will, but not so soon. Give yourself at least 2.5months for results.

Yup. Because your previous cleanser is not good enough. Therefore, your skin reacted by removing the old layer, now you will start with a brand new skin layer. Since its new, so you will feel tingling. It wouldn't persist long as your skin will adapt to the environment.

Well, any word - CETAPHIL. Its good enough to accomodate every type of skin.



Jinyee

Great.Starting using it and your problem will decrease very soon. You will feel tingling because your skin has not get used to Benzoyl Peroxide yet. Give yourself some time. Use it once per two nights, then after 1-2weeks that your skin can tolerate BP, you can apply once per day already.




Jinyee