thanks for the advice, im not using consealer for daily use, only for special occasion to cover up my pimples & scars.

for daily one i only use foundation + powder when i go to office.

not only girls having acne problem,mens also having acne problem too. i think you/mod shd move this thread to fashion & beauty section, coz if ur thread in girls club thats mean boys not allowed to participate

just my 2 cents

thanks for your good susgestion.

jinyee, u're really a good skin consultant... i've been following this topic and i guess i should ask u some question...

i have acne for 10+ years now... my face got scars and pimples, sometimes puss...

my combination now is estebel (from DHCL, sorry for the spelling) toner and facial foam, and Simple Shine Oil Control Matte Moisturizer (something like that)...

currently, the pimple is put under control, still got puss but the oil can be as much as cooking oil... i really want to control the oil... will the Clean & Clear oil removing film helps? and also the neutrogena on-the-spot helps?

thanks! u're the best

guys can participate in girl's club's threads. it's just that they can't open a thread in girl's club except for the fashion & beauty subforum.

i'll merge the threads (this one & jinyee80's one)

please kindly search before you open a new thread.

Well, acne did not choose its 'victim'. Some might get it within puberty, and stop while some persist for longer period; some might don't get it during puberty but after certain situation such as having baby and etcetra.

Yup, I agree that we should let guys to post their problems as well. Really need some feedbacks from the guys as I am currently doing research and review towards acne and certain brands.


Well, thank you for the compliment ( dare not to take it at first ). Having acne for 10+ years is not a really serious problem if you start having it during your standard 6 or form 1 time. The problem might persist and it might stop automatically during a session as if its due to hormon. However, if its because you are having sensitive skin and yet using harsh products, then I have to say sorry to you because you might not be getting acne for a longer time but you are also harming your skin.

Anyway, you really need to scrutinize into the root rather than eliminating one pimple on your right, then another pops up from your left. So, for having it for 10 years, I would recommend you to either look into your skin type and other criteria.

Puss is because your skin is dry in oily out. Well, you may need to apply something that is moisturizing yet is non comedogenic. SIMPLE Oil Control moisturizer will only helps to moisturize your surface layer of skin rather than your whole skin which consists of dermis and epidermis. It may control the oil as first, as it forms a film on the top of your skin, its like shielding it out but as time goes by, your inner layer of skin will feel dry because it cannot breathe. So, to moisturize itself, your skin by itself develop extra sebum to keep your skin in balance, the inner and the outer part.

That's why I emphasize, and always emphasize on products that did not really make your skin worse as it claims it will help at first ( their marketing strategy ). Estebel, well, I would highly recommend you to put aside your current facial cleanser, substitute it with my favorite Cetaphil and put aside SIMPLE and your toner as well. As in toner, many brands intend to put large amount of alcohol inside, as their perception is that alcohol will be a good anti-bacterial agent but it hurts your skin if its too dry.

For every person that PM me for their acne problem, I would sincerely recommend them to change to the products that I recommended. The mighty CETAPHIL GENTLE FACIAL CLEANSER, and again the NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT. For moisturizer, you may go for NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin as it will helps in soaking extra sebum on your face with cyclomethicone ( its silicone that soak up oil ).



This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 25 2006, 09:37 PM

jinyee80:- Do u have any good product recommend for acne redness mark leave on skin?

This post has been edited by unknown: Jul 25 2006, 09:36 PM

Red marks, we called it as hyperpigmentation. It will heal its owns but it might vary from one personnel to another.

Okie, for red marks. I will say that no necessary product you need to use particulary for this, otherwise if its a scar, then I will recommend you something.

Don't really believe on those whitenning and lightenning products out there because it will really burden your skin and it might also cause other skin problems. Well, just use a SPF moisturizer when you gonna go out, under the sun, then again moisturize your skin properly at night, I think its sufficient for the skin itself to heal by its own.

Our skin can rejuvenate itself, just that sometimes the products that we used may delay the process. So, clean well, moisturize well, then its ok already. Don't feel embarass about that anyway, and please do not use heavy make up to cover it. Let it be and it will heal by its own rather than applying ABC products in, which you would not want to risk your skin!


Jinyee

as i read from many books, net & mags....basic to clean our face is
cleanser + tonic + moisturiser
now still confused which tonic shd i use & safe for my sensitive skin, currently i use clean & clear toner, is it ok to combine with neutrogena product???
i do mask my face twice a month using neutrogena hydrating mask too.

but when i read clean & clear toner ingredient there is contain fragrance & alcohol, is it safe for my face?

My goodness. C&C toner contains a lot of alcohol and should be prevented. Yup, some books guide you so but its not compulsory. It varies for one to another. Well, stick to your Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena on-the-spot and what's the moisturizer are you using currently?

Mask is ok.

jinyee80, what about alcohol thing? Can you tell me what alcohol actually do?

Nice and very imformative post Jinyee

Let me add my cent worth of opinion bout red marks and dark spots caused by acne. While I totally support Jinyee's advice on letting red marks heal on its own but I do believe that using spot/lightening treatment would help with those dark spots.
Most people have this misconception that whitening/lightening products would help them to achieve total paleness or simply a total "whiter" look like those faces in advertisment. In reality, lightning/whitening products help to even out skin tone, dispersing dark spots and thus making the face seem fairer and more even toned instead of pale white.
Lightening or whitening products may be used to hasten up the dispersion of dark spots. Some ingredients contain in lightening products such as mulberry, kojic acid and licorice can help lighten spots and evening out skin tone. However again it come down to the matter of suitability for the skin. Not all lightening products may work on your skin and yes some might cause rash and irritation but we cant deny that lightening products are all useless. Those ingredients are clinically proven =)

For more information on marks please refer to these links
Skin care physicians
http://www.skincarephysicians.com/acnenet/scarring.html
Acne.org
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php?showtopic=35143
SKin Care Health
http://skin-care.health-cares.net/skin-whitening.php

And also I would like to share a product review bout a popular cleanser used by many of my friends which I found to be quite harsh on skin actually (especially those with sensitive skin) The brand name is Eskinol Facial Cleanser range for acne. (originated from The Philippines) One thing for sure, I found out tat their acne cleanser range contains strong Denatured Ethanol (alcohol). Although it claims to be "effective against pimple causing bacteria" I found it would dry out your skin. Alcohol would dry out your skin by stripping of the natural moisture of your skin.Please try to avoid this product for those with sensitive skin.

When alcohols have low molecular weights they can be drying and irritating. The alcohols to be concerned about in skin-care products are ethanol, denatured alcohol, ethyl alcohol, methanol, benzyl alcohol, isopropyl, and SD alcohol, which can be extremely drying and irritating to skin.
(Sources: "Skin Care from the Inside Out and Outside In," Tufts Daily, April 1, 2002; eMedicine Journal, May 8, 2002, volume 3, number 5, www.emedicine.com; Cutis, February 2001, pages 25?7; and Contact Dermatitis, January 1996, pages 126).

When these ingredients are at the top of an ingredient list it is problematic for all skin types, when they are at the end of an ingredient list there isn't enough concentration present to be considered a problem for skin.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 26 2006, 06:33 AM

i didn't use any moisturiser before
coz my skin is oily type, i think my face no need for moisturiser

do i hv to change another toner??? or it is necessary to use toner?

jinyee, i shoud thank you for this usefull thread

thanks for the info

i'll try ur recommendation n give some feedbacks...

btw, do u recommend any mask that's suitable for acne?

again, thanks jinyee, u're the best

Yeah...me too looking suitable mask for my face, currently im using netrogena hydrating mask....but i want mask that can tighten my pores, coz i hv giant pores

jinyee80, hope you don't mind me to chip in a bit.

oily skin is not the same with moistured skin.

although you have oily skin, you still need to use moisturizer. since there're so many types of moisturizer (some for dry skin, some for oily skin, and some for combination), i'm pretty sure you'll be able to find one. Or perhaps jinyee80 can recommend one to you.

yeah, thanks zoe....now still looking which moisturiser suited my face skin

Oily type of skin doesn't mean you do not require moisturizer. Anyway, it might vary. So you should identify whether your skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out as well. Normally, I will not advise you to use moisturizer during the daytime, of course when you expose to the hot sun, you began to sweat, your makeup starting to melt, your moisturizer began to turn in watery when it reacts with your sweat.

My advise would be use moisturizer at night when you sleep in the aircond. That's it. During the day, cleanse your skin, apply foundation, then you are ready for a brand new day. At night, cleanse, tone if you want, apply Neutrogena On-the-spot, wait for some time, then apply moisturizer, then rest. Take note that Neutrogena on-the-spot should never ever be used on daytime because the main ingredient Benzoyl Peroxide will cause your skin to expose more to the UV and it might also cause hyperpigmentation.

Regarding the toner, I really don't have any toner can be recommended to you. Because I can't find one that is widely available and the price is affordable and quality is compromising. Anyway, toner is not compulsory but is recommended if your daily cleanser did not cleanse well, but Cetaphil and Liquid Neutrogena could, so, basically no worries for you!

Mask, you might need mask for moisturization and for acne as well. I have yet to find any mask that contains NO fragrance at all. You might try Hisatmitsu wear and tear mask if you aim for convenience rather than the conventional mask. Please avoid mask that contains SULPHUR, it may be a good antiseptic, but its too harsh for the skin. Find mask with ingredients such as KAOLIN, CYCLOMETHICONE, ALLANTOIN and other properties. Avoid those mask that contains AHA and BHA as well.

Normally if you continuously using Neutrogena on-the-spot, your pore will become smaller. Anyway, pores did not really stretch big or small, if you read some professional articles in the internet. When no impurities in your pores, and the oxygen flows is smooth, then your pores will obviously look smaller. It looks bigger because there's impurities or residues stay put in your pores. It is just like corking your pores.

Indeed. Not even mind that you chip in. Would be happier if other forumers are willing to share their thoughts and post some opinions. Interaction is important. As mentioned, yup, there's moisturizer for oily skin. There's also moisturizer with dry skin, the different things is their ingredients vary. Look for non-comedogenic and oil-free when you select your moisturizer if you have oily skin. Neutrogena has a range of moisturizer than i would recommend for either day use or night use. Please revise my previous posts.

Recommendation, for daily use, go for NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 if you exposed more towards the sun.

If you did not expose that much to the sun, then probably you should try NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin as it is a lightweight, dual-action formula that moisturizes dry areas while it controls oily shine.

At night, go for NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture For Sensitive Skin as it is a lightweight, water-based moisturizer that provides gentle yet effective moisturization for even the most sensitive skin.

So if you have oily-sensitive skin, morning, use Neutrogena Combination, night use Neutrogena Sensitive skin.

if you have oily-not sensitive skin, morning, use Neutrogena SPF, night Neutrogena sensitive.

if you have combination skin, morning use Neutrogena SPF or Combination,night use Neutrogena combination.

how to define combination skin and sensitive skin??

actually i dunno wat type of my skin la...