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jayraptor
post Jan 6 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 5 2014, 12:20 PM)
One thing I noticed that the doors still can be opened..

My grandfather crashed this car last year, both front doors jammed already..

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Kesian him, 80 years old need to climb to the seat behind to go out from the rear doors after the crash
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Innova/Avanza are just cheap alternative product built for 3rd nation. They are not built to score high on crash test and didn't even screen through US/EU/AU safety rating. Not just Innova and Avanza but several other Toyota models including Wish didn't score well on safety rating but managed to pass minimum requirement that the collision force would dent the front doors until cannot open. If it's a 2 seater car, sure cannot come out already.
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post Jan 6 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jan 5 2014, 02:01 PM)
dares you diam7 vmad.gif mad.gif
i want to hear what jayraptor 's professional advice wub.gif thumbup.gif

you need certain temperature or climate to make the car more safe? hmm.gif
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Since several China made cars today managed to pass US/EU/AU safety rating, it's not strange that the Preve (rumored to be tech from China) survived frontal collision and rollover.

As for that lady driver, she asked for it. She wanted to speed at 160km/h on that not so well designed highway yet her Preve is low spec variant without VSC so when she took a swerve a bit too hard, it lost control and hit the left then right divider and went into few loops of rollover. The roof caved in is either caused by:
1) hitting divider while upside down or
2) the car chassis didn't have high score rating that it caved in.

As for the engine, new cars have collapsible mounting like steering wheel to prevent the engine from crashing into passenger compartment. Only in strong impact, the mounting would collapse, should not happen if the impact speed is low or else, it'll be lemon or sub-standard. But since this impact is at high speed, the mount should collapse as the front is almost gone serving as crumple zone, the engine would surely falloff and because of rollover, it is not strange that the engine flew forward at the end point.

Luckily she did not hit anyone other than road divider and had some nice hard rolls. She won't feel physical pain during and moments after the collision. However, when she reached home that night, her muscle will start to ache due to impact concussion shock and would last for few days at least. Most notable pain would come from around her neck-shoulder area followed by other part of her torso.
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post Jan 8 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(ramboramsey @ Jan 6 2014, 07:41 PM)
Since when tech from China? Magna from China meh?
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There has been rumor that P1 gets China to build everything for them ever since MMC ceased providing rebadge. The Saga, Persona/Gen2, Preve, Exora materials, stamping/molding machines, tech provided by China carmakers. You just have to pay China carmaker, telling them what design you want and they will provide you the machines to build the cars and information on material mixture.

Also, survival in crashing is higher than getting slammed at. Cars nowadays are made to pass frontal collision, rollover and side collision. This incident has nothing to be shout of. Mazda and Ford instead have encountered much riskier accident by getting slammed by semi-trucks that lost control at high speed. The Preve roof cave in showed it scored average.

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post Jan 21 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ramboramsey @ Jan 9 2014, 11:26 AM)
Your rumours dont have any substance at all. Saga/Exora/Savvy consultant: LG Korea, Persona/G2: Lotus Engineering. Waja: EDAG Germany, Preve: MAGNA Austria. China suppliers is just another suppliers and they produce for VW, GM, Ford as well (mostly MNC tier 1 like Lear Corp, TRW, Bosch, Hella, Valeo etc)

In fact Its China OEM is trying to get technical assistant from Lotus & Proton as in the case of Youngman

Everybody in the industry knows this and LG V-ENS (https://www.v-ens.com/eng/main/default.php) even design the Toyota/Daihatsu/P2 carĀ  for Boon Luminas
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They can claim whatever. China heavy industries doesn't even bother to claim anything as what they want is money. You think a country that doesn't appreciate nor recognise Engineering field as professional can get so many talents that could help P1 to build everything? They can't even build the platform on their own unless they get Chinese replicator/duplicator experts to mold everything ready. P1 is only assembler who claimed they build this and that who knows nuts about building cars.

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