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 Income Tax Issues v3, Anything related to Personal Income Tax

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pisces88
post Mar 24 2014, 12:29 AM

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lets say a sole proprietorship gives a incentive in form of item like laptop , tablet or watch (non-cash item), is it deductible? if yes, can file under which part of borang B? and does that employee need declare that item in his tax?
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post Mar 24 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Mar 24 2014, 07:21 AM)
No cash value means you don't get taxed for it. How to deduct some more?
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Oh so the person who received will not get taxed, and don't need declare.

How about the company? Let's say the laptop is rm3000, can put it under staff bonus , rm3000?
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post Mar 24 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Mar 24 2014, 03:41 PM)
sorry to say, the forumer is incorrect. it is taxable even if its not a cash. imagine Company giving out a house/car instead of cash bonus, taxable ? the answer is yes. Income tax is NOT based on cash only, else it will be called Cash Received Tax, not Income Tax. sigh, tired with half cooked answers.

for your case, i suppose you already done your Borang E. if its included in Borang E, then fill it in ur Company account, if not better do not disclose these non-cash incentive and you urself have to bear the tax instead of transferring to the employee. but theres loop holes of course. but end of the day, its either if the Company can deduct, meaning the staff have to disclose and kena tax, if the Company cannot deduct then the staff do not have to kena (that is the norm of income tax basically).
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hi, thanks for the explaination smile.gif

i have not done borang E.. will file borang B (im employed and have small business) this year. so i wondering, if i give 1 laptop to employee as bonus, (purpose is to reduce the company's chargeable income), which part to file it?

the employee declare or not, will be up to him.. but of course will advise to declare. if he declares , which part to declare?
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post Mar 24 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Mar 24 2014, 05:17 PM)
as an employer, u will need to prepare Borang E and EA for your staff. and the deal date is 31 march if im not mistaken.

as for Employer it will be inside your tax computation, may it be staff incentive, bonus, gratuity whatever you name it.

as for employee side, it will falls under Paragraph 13(1)(a) which is same category as salary, wages, leave pay, bonus, gratuity. because your Laptop is consider convertible into money, meaning your staff can sell that laptop to get the money.
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post Mar 25 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(rye_yerd @ Mar 25 2014, 10:39 AM)
dear piscess88,

wish to side-track ur post a little cos i noticed some parts of ur content which might be able to answer my query, in the case u r an employee & owns a small business, you should be filing under borang B? thanks so much
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That's correct smile.gif it'll be due for submission in june
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Mar 24 2014, 10:17 PM)
Informative page
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hi, from the link it says :

As a start, discuss with your boss if your take-home income can be arranged in such a way that non-taxable allowance be increased instead of basic salary. For example, up to RM2,400 travelling allowance is tax free. Meal allowance, parking allowance, childcare allowance are some allowances that you can toy around to reduce your income tax.


do you know the rm2,400 is PA or monthly?

and how much meal allowance and parking allowance is allowed?
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post Mar 26 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Mar 26 2014, 11:46 AM)
Wil it make sense? More allowance but low salary?
U can save up to 25% tax with high allowance and low salary.
But, your boss wil pay bonus by calculationg based on monthly salary, you will get same amount of month bonus.
But, total amount of bonus in ringgit is low cos ur slary is low.
Wil it best to save tax but get lower bonus?
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I'm on basic + commission scheme. I just need to convert the commission to allowance, then I can save on tax and won't affect my bonus smile.gif

Company also save on epf. Win-win situation.
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post Mar 27 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Mar 27 2014, 07:45 AM)
If company save on EPF meaning you're getting less money.... EPF is your money, and gets higher interest than any bank account savings/FD you have.
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Epf 10+%

My tax 20+%

Might as well don't want the epf blush.gif
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post Mar 27 2014, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Mar 27 2014, 03:29 PM)
Company save EPF and u loss EPF?
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oh what i mean is company pay me 10+% on epf, but if i receive that commission, my tax bracket is 20+% already. so if they willing to pay me separately for that amount, they can save 10+% on epf, i also can save 20%+ on that amount..

Example : 10k income, company give me 1k+ epf, but n need pay tax 2k+ for that 10k. rugi

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