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 Income Tax Issues v3, Anything related to Personal Income Tax

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aylwyn paul
post Apr 22 2014, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 22 2014, 04:26 PM)
Can slow talk to waive. I've done that before thumbup.gif
Still, submit it promptly will be the best way whistling.gif
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post Apr 22 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 22 2014, 04:50 PM)
Sorry, first time tax payer.

Just wanna know, if I am a Director of a company, do I fill in the eB form or the eBE?

Ie. do I fill in the one which says 'ada punca perniagaan' or not?

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YOU ARE DIRECTOR OF COMPANY SO FILL IN BE COS UNDER EMPLOYMENT
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post Apr 22 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 22 2014, 04:49 PM)
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KANGAR BRANCH SAY CANNOT MUST SHOW PROOF OR DOCUMENT TO SUPPORT YOUR APPEAL
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post Apr 23 2014, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 22 2014, 06:16 PM)
What if I have both?

non-business and business?
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under one tax reutrn
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post Apr 23 2014, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(kiko911 @ Apr 22 2014, 09:32 PM)
if I earned less than 17k and no income tax has been deducted in 2013, do I have to fill in the BE_2013 form, which will due on 30th APR 2014?
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if you have tax file number , please submit your tax until IRB send you a love letter notify you no need to send.
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post Apr 23 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(J_pandapuppet @ Apr 23 2014, 01:19 AM)
Hi. I really need help and advise on this one.  sad.gif

I’m a legal tax payer. However, I never look as submitting forms is important every year because to what I understand, since my payslip had deducted the amount of tax to the govt. it should be fine. Like what is there to declare if I did not owe government anything? So I was totally wrong about it and misunderstood. I even misunderstood the EPF and tax part. My colleagues do make noise everytime submitting tax, and the impression they gave me they just wanna claim some money back. To me, I am fine, it's better the govt. had the money from me than I owe them plus I really hate paperwork. You may ask why my HR/Admin never brief or at least tell me? I do not want to put the blame to my HR/Admins though I’ve asked some several people that they do have responsible to at least explain the importance of submitting tax forms every year when my salary had reach the certain tax amount.

Now after I acknowledged the importance I am actually gathering all my EA forms and other documents to file to the tax. I checked with Hasil and my Tax No. also existed (my tax no. never appear in my EA form because it's under pending but they still receive tax from my earning every year). And I just registered to e-filing. So my questions is that according to my pay I should have start submitting my tax forms since 2009 but I did not do that. If I plan to do it and submit it now, will I go to jail? I am not even doing a full time job anymore and trying to do my own business but I've decided it's better I do my tax now since it's important.

Should I really go ahead submitting my tax? The fine is RM200 (min) to RM2,000 (max) or spend some time squatting in prison (not exceeding 6 months). I've calculated that from my tax I might can redeem from 700-a thousand every yr. If it's penalty judge by every year I guess I need to really eat wind. I don't plan to buy any property in this few years though.

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can you make a list of your employment income from the year you start working as follow(table format)

year total salary(whole year) reported
2008 20000 yes


Above is an example

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post Apr 23 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Apr 23 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hi guys, let say that I have started employment form 2008.
But only started to file for my income tax for this year
(i.e for last year's income).

Would I need to declare my salary for the previous years ?
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BELOW 24k MAY OPT FOR NOT TO SUBMIT
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post Apr 23 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 23 2014, 10:30 AM)
Try to submit last year and see if LHDN ask you to declare other years or not. Try to slow talk with them when they send you a letter. It can avoid you to pay penalty but the amount you owe still have to pay.
Not the case, you still need to do the paper works. As PCB usually are deducted based on gross income. Especially if you have some side incomes(OT or bonus), then it will affect your PCB calculations also. Like mine, this month I only pay rm400 of PCB, next month I may need to pay rm3000 of PCB, just becuase of OT and bonus bank in together.
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YOU SUBMIT YOUR 2013 INCOME .THEN PREVIOUS BUAT TAK TAU DULU COS THEY WILL IMPOSED PENALTY ON PREVIOUS YEAR UNLESS YOUR SALARY HAVE DEDUCTED PCB AND PCB OVER DEDUCTED
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post Apr 23 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Apr 23 2014, 11:16 AM)
Just to clarify,
Should the income is less than the thrsehold,
then there would be no need to submit filing?
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normally is like that , but to play save go to irb show them your ea form to have the confirmation from them(in black n white)
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post Apr 23 2014, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(J_pandapuppet @ Apr 23 2014, 12:14 PM)
Thanks for the hints and advise.

If your advise is to submit the previous year the last year would be 2012. My last full time job and ended on year 2012. I would need to submit the form manually since e-filing only up to 2013.

No I do not have business income between 2009-2012, only bonus during my serving in this previous company.

- <a href='http://<referral link removed>/my/news/last-minute-guide-to-filing-your-taxes-malaysia' target='_blank'>http://<referral link removed>/my/news/last-minute-guide-...-taxes-malaysia</a>

Q1. My file opened in the year of 2009, but my total income for that year is less than that abovementioned amount. Only in the year of 2010 it exceeds that amount. Do I go ahead and file it from the year 2009 if they requested?

Q2. Technically, I do not have any income in the year of 2013 because am not attached with any company. So year 2013 I can put it into rest or still submit it with no income?

I am ready with the EA forms and documents just in case anyway.

Q3. So I should go ahead filing from the year 2009 or 2012 instead?

Thanks all sifu.  notworthy.gif
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ANSWER TO ALL QUESTION === ONCE YOU OPENED THE FILE YOU MUST SUBMIT. IF NOT THEY HAVE TEIR RIGHT TO PANELISE YOU. AT THIS MOMENT, A FEW OPTION YOU MAY CHOOSE:
OPTION 1 : SIT AND DO NOTHING
OPTION 2 : SUBMIT 2012 ONLY; OR
OPTION 3 ; SUBMIT ALL;

P.S. :
A) OPTION 2 & 3 - THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK YOU TO REPORT YOU TAX SINCE 2009 UNTIL THE LATEST
PENALTY BOLEH KENA

B) OPTION 1,2 & 3 - BOLEH KENA PENALTY TETAPI oPT.1 CHANGE IS SLIM

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post Apr 24 2014, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 23 2014, 09:10 PM)
Will we face slow connection on the e filling website towards the few days before closing date?
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last minute ma .traffic jam lo
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post Apr 24 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(prole @ Apr 24 2014, 09:05 AM)
So you mean single tier is not required to disclose during submission?
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single tier or tax exempt no need to disclose
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post Apr 24 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(prole @ Apr 24 2014, 09:12 AM)
Thanks for the confirmation. I came across messages urging to retain the dividend vouchers for submission to IRB every time I receive the dividends. So I'm wondering why we need to send the vouchers physically to IRB if it is single tier? The message from CIMB indeed confusing.
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ALL DIVIDEND VOUCHER NO NEED TO SUBMIT . YOU NEED TO KEEP AND YOU NEED TO SHOW THEM WHEN THEY ASK FOR.
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post Apr 27 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 25 2014, 10:08 PM)
I really hope you won't call for the audit.

We don't encourage stoppy to do that.

Of course, the final decision is still on you.

LHDN is very strict this year.
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i agrred with you .
decision on you but final discretion is on lhdn
govt really need more n lhdn is the weapon n have the right to impose unnecessary penalties
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post Apr 27 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(firstever @ Apr 27 2014, 09:47 AM)
Hi guys, it is my first time doing this tax return without hiring any accountant, so i would really need your advices. When i first try to apply for this website -> https://e.hasil.gov.my/  , i noticed No Cukai pendapatan is in the keperluan system, so i went to this website->  http://edaftar.hasil.gov.my/dafsgjpn.php to register a Nombor permohonan, and this No permohonan can check my No Cukai Pendapatan through here -> http://edaftar.hasil.gov.my/info.php . Weird thing start to show up that it stated "Status: Nombor Cukai Pendapatan Telah Wujud Sebelum Ini. " and the No cukai pendapatan start with OG, but i makan gaji ni....  Need all sifu advices on this as only few days left to meet the due date.

*** I started to work from september 2013
*** There is only blank showwing in my "No Rujukan Cukai pekerja" field of my EA form.
Thank you so much.
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you have to register through counter by manually , but you may try to register through lhdn website.

if you already have file number whether OG or SG, you can use that number to submit your tax return before due date.until their inform you for the changes
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post Apr 27 2014, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(hongetbee @ Apr 27 2014, 09:09 AM)
Hi all, I have checked the E-Ledger site and saw an outstanding amount in my Account 1. Due to financial constraint, could I just banked in a partial amount into my personal tax account, just to reduce the overall outstanding amount? Thanks for sharing.
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you can apply for payment you tax by deducting your monthly salary . The application must make before due date.
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post Apr 27 2014, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(firstever @ Apr 26 2014, 02:23 PM)
Hi guys, i have some question here, i been doing this taxable return for the first time, but the No Cukai pendapatan that i got was OG, instead of SG. My fren all get SG , i am wondering am i getting the correct No. Cukai pendapatan. Please advice, thank you.
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you can use that first . they will inform you for the changes . dont worry about that this is small matter
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post Apr 27 2014, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(vjeyamahla @ Apr 24 2014, 01:33 PM)
Hi.

I have a 20 year old son studying diploma in a private college. Do i claim RM1k for children or RM 6k for child above 18 and studying? Thanks.
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post Apr 27 2014, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(stoppy @ Apr 24 2014, 10:32 PM)
When buy book / magazine, I did not retain the receipts. Can I still claim of RM1000 relief?

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can but be carefull and not to claim full
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post Apr 27 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(firstever @ Apr 27 2014, 03:48 PM)
Thank you for the reply, i am wondering am i doing it correctly using this http://edaftar.hasil.gov.my/dafsgjpn.php to have my No Cukai pendapatan? FYI , i just realized i am not taxable because my annual income for last year was not more than 10k, so do i still need to file tax return?
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Have you received any love letter from LHDn or form BE2013 from them.
If you received the form, you must submit the form (completed form) to them before due date
If you received love letter, please go to lhdn office to get a COPY OF FORM BE 2013.

IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTER .no need to submit

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