Hi All toyota Altis Super CVT i gearbox user need your help.!!!!!

This morning i call Toyota SC and ask about 80K KM service.
The SC told me Altis CVT no need change CVY oil. Altis is using long life CVT

what is long life CVT?
Super CVT i gearbox is no need change the CVT oil or no use CVT?


i scare the SC broken my car. thansk.

it means long life lo. no need to change for a very long long time.

what Service Schedule says?
@ what km, what to change?

CVT gearbox is very sensitive (unless toyota say so...) so better change oil... Malaysia hot weather....

Check manual, if manual say change then change, if manual dont have then up to you

is 80k km Major service.

I call the SC, they told me in 80kk KM service will change break pad, break oil, engine oil, air filter, … but CVT oil is not need due to Toyota CVT no need to change??

is this true? i can't find the CVT oil change informaiton in Manual...do not know with page.

agree, CVT gearbox no need change oil is my 1st time to listen...
is the the SC make a joke for me?

can not be...

Yes it is true, Altis don't need to change CVT fluid unless ECU indicate change required.

They have the proper device to check whether CVT fluid change is required.

oh no...
my is 2nd hand car...
i tot all the CVT gear box is same, 40k km or 80k km then change the CVT oil.
so i prepare myself change the CVT gear for this coming 80K major...
hei...

your car already run how many km?
your new car until never change the CVT oil?


This post has been edited by proton1888: Dec 30 2013, 04:36 PM

my Honda also got CVT oil change indicator but usually change before the indicator light up... better be safe than sorry... CVT not cheap easily 20K

long life = last long =/= no need to change
better safe than sorry....gearbox ain't cheap

Change or not to change your choice
You want to change it at 10k or 100k also can
Your call

But I changed mine at 40k although they recommend 100k

how much the cost for change the CVT oil? can you share to me?
i want to Change but SC is recommend me not need to change.

today will call another SC and check agian.

your one is honda...
your one better every 20k change it else good luck for your gear box.
but no you no need worry too much, KL have many H. city IDSI half cut. if i'm not mistake the price still cheap RM5k-10k.
if your CVT gear box got problem, then you buy a half and change it.

i forgot the actual figure.... i think 300-400..

Genuine Toyota CVT fluid RM135, imported by UMW Toyota from Toyota Japan.

You can get it from Wing Hin Auto Supplies / Vanli or ST Auto. Those are the authorised dealer for toyota genuine parts.

But if SC, do no how much they charge.

thanks. brother. but i believe the charge will better then problem Inspira.
i check before Inspira need around RM500, the CVT oil around 2++ to 3+++...

300-400 still ok, if you compar to N.S only the CVT already need 560, full chagre for major serivce can cost until RM 1600...

RM135 is in 4 liter packaging.

But if the workshop done the gearbox flushing, they need at least 8 liters to flush the current fluid, if not mistaken.

same with the Nissan.S. also need 8 liters, 4 liter for flush and 4 liter use.
8 liter cost you RM5++...

but outside less workshop want to do this service, change the CVT gearbox oil.
have to go back SC. hei...

as far as i know if you change the GB fluid more often you need no to flush the GB
which in other way you save a bit other than change it later and need to flush

agree with you.
eat pisang goreng also need fresh oil to goreng, moreover that is GB, every days running one.
can't save the cost if we want the GB have a better long life.

This post has been edited by proton1888: Dec 31 2013, 09:36 AM

My Toyota Wish (new facelift) used CVT gearbox. Coz the manual every thing in Japanese, am guessing in the manual that the CVT interval change is every 30K km.

inspira Jatco CVT GB is like 27k.....
300-400 to prolong is damn worth it

Nothing is forever. Toyota SC bullshit on my Vios ATF WS is so long life only need to change on 100k km (since bought).

Of course I changed it on the 1st 10k km on request (still bright pink). Then afterward I blindly follow TSC advice. On 80k km+, I felt uneasy and do ATF change (and the usual service) outside of TSC and guess what, that pink ATF WS is black like shit and muddy and darker than my engine oil, ATF become WTF. Gods know what have been damaged in there...

Your CVTF, max duration 40k km. Better to be in 20k~30k km. CVT is more sensitive and need the micro rubblet (they are available only in CVTF) to be there. If those rubblet brokedown (wear & tear), you will have permanent dmg on the CVT GB.


This post has been edited by dstl1128: Dec 31 2013, 10:22 AM

You are rite

Anyone actually manage to change Altis CVT fluid at UMW SC

Penang, Perai SC refuse to change it no mather how I request due to they mess up someone's CVT when they change it before.

Honda or Not honda... CVT is CVT.... it runs very hot and we are in a hot weather country... yeah Toyota is much more superior CVT... try talk to Nissan X-CVT... they don't even take risk!!! same with mitsu CVT... all manufacturer don't take risk on CVT cause it is expensive.... maybe toyota driver more cash rich can donate to UMW... yeah good luck

If a TSC mess up their own when changing CVTF, means they are no better than 'outside' aside for not voiding the warranty.

change CVTF also can mess up the GB

u mean you pay for it they also refuse to do???

Not sure what mistake they did. SC keep told me the GB is sealed.

Mind you I claim my CVT on 80K due to really weird and loud whining noise, engineer from KL came over to diagnose and approved to swap one.

katijar : Yes. That's why I try to find another SC where I can change CVT fluid

This post has been edited by blacktubi: Dec 31 2013, 11:58 AM

the packaging look the same but different fluid.

different WORDS & NUMBERS too.

Toyota so smart... Ha ha
Once the cvt broken then is your fault.

Cause you didn't voice record.

Normally can last up to 30-40k kms is consider long life already.

Just image your imaging ur engine oil keep 20k km and don't brother and see how..

not all SC is bad, some SC is well come you to change.

just know i call the Pria TSC, they told me Altis have two type CVT fluid due to have two batch GB, each batch using difference CVT oil, but the price and grade is the same for both.
any how we need send the car to SC for the to check what CVT fluid we use then can change it. The SC told me they no keep the CVT fluid, scare mix up.

also agree with you, the CVT can loud whining noise but no broken.
from they record, only ten + unit CVT gear box cliam at this moment, all is due to loud whining noise but still can function well.

proton1888 Let me know after you change it, afraid they mess up mine since my Warranty ended

Should be not so worry about this mix up issue, you go/call in to the SC, find the a guy name Mr Ho, he will explain to you.
I can explain to you, we also do not know how to check it.
you need send the car to the SC then they will let you know it.
The GB number or …(forget liao) will tell the SC using which grade fluid.

dont know then dont talk crap, rm 500 is from which sc?

mine only less than rm 300, but give u benefit of the doubt, rm300

This post has been edited by ckk125: Dec 31 2013, 03:01 PM

oips....less the proton sell guy told me is this price, the price is include the filter.

I could only find one type of CVT F from Toyota with part number 08886-02105. Either the Prai TSC confused with ATF WS (the 4spd dino box) Altis (1.6) vs Super CVT-i Altis (1.8 & 2.0)...

i just check back my CC statement
my 40k km service cost me RM396.90
CVTF, Brake Fluid, Coolant, Oil Filter and labour. EO i brought mine

air filter I changed myself putting in KNN RM200.

so 40k KM bill is roughly RM800 if i include all together

This post has been edited by edison1437: Dec 31 2013, 03:29 PM

mine is freeee...haha..

may b..

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