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Faidzal
post Dec 30 2013, 11:27 AM

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what happened to the original purchaser of Cardiff? TG Chan or something?

wasn't he the one who purchased the club?
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post Dec 30 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 30 2013, 11:33 AM)
vincent tan should realize quickly that a football club existed bcoz of the fans..

didnt see abramovic or the arab sheikh doing anything drastically at chelsea or man city..juts gave money to buy players..
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hull city and fulham owners take not of this....

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post Dec 30 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Dec 30 2013, 11:44 AM)
Shebby Singh, Tony Fernandes and this season  Vincent Tan. Guess which Malaysian will become the main EPL villain next season?
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probably tony fernandes. QPR is still in top 3 of championship (1 step below BPL) and Cardiff is 1 point above relegation-threatened clubs.

with any luck QPR under harry redknapp will get 1 slot of the promoted clubs while Cardiff might be relegated back if sunderland, fulham or crystal palace get their act together just in time....

Blackburn is a lost cause, the best hope for Blackburn fans is another rich guy with too much money buy the rovers off venky's and do a slow rebuild.

sorry shebby, guess not all pundits can be successful, so the adage that "those who can, do. those who can't, criticize" is true in your case....
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Dec 30 2013, 11:55 AM)
It is the drastic changes that he make or attempt to make. First, change team jersey colour, then sack the head of Recruitment and replaced by his son friend . He may have justification to sack Malky Mackay ... but to change club name? its a big no no...  something like MU to Manchester Bear ........ it going to be riot at Old Trafford.

He is meddling in area where he is not supposed to.
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and the brits returned the favour in kind by denying his son's friend a work permit to work at the club.

vincent tan needs to realize that this is not Malaysia where he can get anything done because he's some chinaman crony....

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post Dec 30 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(sickx @ Dec 30 2013, 11:56 AM)
tbf, Tony did well as a chairman. only that Mark Hughes failed him for buying too many players and fail to make them work as a team. Remy, Granero, Park J.S., Samba and the most outrageous, Julio Cesar. all of them are good players and should have kept the team in BPL but Hughes don't know how to work with them.
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tony did what is required of a good club chairman: sit back and let the pros do their jobs.

that's why I wondered why Vincent tan took over from his 'front man' TG chan. I recall it was TG chan who turned around the club from a championship midpack team into serious contenders culminating with the 2012 carling cup final and being last season's champions....

maybe he smelled success too early?
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(sickx @ Dec 30 2013, 12:10 PM)
i thought Chan only gave him the money to buy the club. the rest he let Tan handle.
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wan't it the other way around?

"i thought Tan only gave him the money to buy the club. the rest he let Chan handle."

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post Dec 30 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(ironmaid89 @ Dec 30 2013, 12:17 PM)
How much needed to buy MU, if for me i will buy either Arsenal or Liverpool.
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the glazers bought MU in a leveraged buyout.

from what I understand this means they borrow money to buy the club and use the future earnings of the club to repay the borrowings.

if the americans can do it so can anyone then?

but last time I heard Liverpool was almost for sale by the John henry sports group up until john henry decided for one last time and somehow they are in top 3-5 place right now....
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post Dec 30 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Dec 30 2013, 01:25 PM)
for me,i dont hate nor do i think its wrong for vincent tan to do what he want to do

its his club
he pay for it
he spends millions on the club

he is the owner.he can do whatever he want

if they say,club is made up of fans,

do they mean the club can only operate because fans go to matches,in turn generate profit for the club from ticket sale?

then show ur resolve by not going to the matches.

stop the him from getting profit from the ticket sale

then,maybe he would listen to the fans.what the fans want and dont want
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that used to be the case.

but now I read that TV royalties are the main source of income for professional sports clubs.

even if stadium is empty they still get money from matches shown on tv.

and since it's pay tv the royalties are higher....
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post Dec 30 2013, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Dec 30 2013, 01:31 PM)
well,still worth it if they stick by the principle of "club made up by fans"

dont go

i think,even somebody as vincent tan would be worry when the stadium is completely void of fans for every matches

it should triggered a response from tan,hopefully a positive one
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the man u fans tried something similar (newton heath club), but ultimately they failed due to several reasons, among them:

1. the glazers respected the man u heritage by not changing/destroying the jerseys, logo or any other sacred heritage/tradition.

2. the club made money from sponsorship deals and merchandise and don't have to rely on local fans so much

3. the owners did not intrude on the day-to-day management of the club and supported almost every player buying/selling without forcing any spending limit (at least within their financial and regulatory means, UEFA will impose financial fair play to curb big spending clubs etc)
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post Dec 30 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Dec 30 2013, 01:59 PM)
more reason for cardiff fan to do what the man u fans failed to do
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man u fans are more well off than Cardiff fans.

and wales isn't exactly football country, they are more famous for rugby....

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