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post Dec 27 2013, 12:26 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hey guys just wondering does the unifi router have bandwidth limiting feature? I'm currently using the L7 router and these days my cousin has been hogging all my internet speed and I couldnt use it at all sad.gif
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post Dec 27 2013, 01:03 PM

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For the L7 router, the bandwidth limiting feature would be called 'QoS engine'. It would be located under ADVANCED > QOS Engine.

Screen shot of the QoS engine page: http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers.../QoS_Engine.htm
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post Dec 27 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Nickimaru @ Dec 27 2013, 01:03 PM)
For the L7 router, the bandwidth limiting feature would be called 'QoS engine'. It would be located under ADVANCED > QOS Engine.

Screen shot of the QoS engine page: http://screenshots.portforward.com/routers.../QoS_Engine.htm
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I see. I have went to that page before but I dont really know how to use it sweat.gif
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post Dec 27 2013, 01:34 PM

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There doesn't seem to be any guides for the QoS setup for this router model. Best advice I can give would be to click on the 'More...' link on the 'Helpful Hints' column to read up on the settings description, and test the QoS configuration.

As always, it would be best to perform a backup of the router configuration before changing any router settings, just in case.
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post Dec 27 2013, 03:31 PM

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Better go for those router that can do ip based traffic limit

TP-Link-> IPQoS feature enable router
ASUS->Asus WRT loaded routers
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post Dec 29 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(hinamoriamu @ Dec 27 2013, 03:31 PM)
Better go for those router that can do ip based traffic limit

TP-Link-> IPQoS feature enable router
ASUS->Asus WRT loaded routers
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Can u recommend me some models? Don't really know much about routers laugh.gif
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post Dec 29 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Dec 29 2013, 09:38 PM)
Can u recommend me some models? Don't really know much about routers laugh.gif
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Wat is your budget in mind?
TSlegenderycity
post Dec 29 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(hinamoriamu @ Dec 29 2013, 09:53 PM)
Wat is your budget in mind?
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100+, less than 300 if possible.
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post Dec 30 2013, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Dec 29 2013, 11:42 PM)
100+, less than 300 if possible.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3050416
Fit your budget, have super simple bandwidth limit AND come with 3 day satisfaction guarantee (send back and refund if you not happy) smile.gif
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post Dec 30 2013, 10:29 AM

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I assume yours is UniFi service.

TP-Link (make sure there is Unifi Support Logo or else you have to update firmware manually for it to support UniFi)
1043ND
WDR3600
WDR4300

Asus
RT-N12(Be careful with HW revision C1, you have to update firmware if you get this hw revision for it to support UniFi. D1 is support out of the box)
RT-N12HP
RT-N16U
TSlegenderycity
post Dec 30 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(hinamoriamu @ Dec 30 2013, 10:29 AM)
I assume yours is UniFi service.

TP-Link (make sure there is Unifi Support Logo or else you have to update firmware manually for it to support UniFi)
1043ND
WDR3600
WDR4300

Asus
RT-N12(Be careful with HW revision C1, you have to update firmware if you get this hw revision for it to support UniFi. D1 is support out of the box)
RT-N12HP
RT-N16U
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I see. I'm more towards TP-Link and currently comparing the 1043ND and WDR3600. I can see the WDR3600 has dual band. What does it mean?
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post Dec 30 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Dec 30 2013, 01:20 PM)
I see. I'm more towards TP-Link and currently comparing the 1043ND and WDR3600. I can see the WDR3600 has dual band. What does it mean?
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Dual band refers to the wireless frequencies that the router is able to support, namely 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

A quick and brief description about the two can be found here: http://www.tp-link.com/EN/article/?faqid=499

FYI, in order to use the 5GHz band, you will have to make sure that your wireless device/adapter/laptop is able to support the 5GHz band.
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post Dec 30 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Dec 30 2013, 01:20 PM)
I see. I'm more towards TP-Link and currently comparing the 1043ND and WDR3600. I can see the WDR3600 has dual band. What does it mean?
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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askj...wi-fi-zip-drove
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post Dec 30 2013, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Nickimaru @ Dec 30 2013, 01:33 PM)
Dual band refers to the wireless frequencies that the router is able to support, namely 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

A quick and brief description about the two can be found here: http://www.tp-link.com/EN/article/?faqid=499

FYI, in order to use the 5GHz band, you will have to make sure that your wireless device/adapter/laptop is able to support the 5GHz band.
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QUOTE(hinamoriamu @ Dec 30 2013, 01:35 PM)
I see, thanks for the information. Next is between those 2 which has better signal strength? How do I see it from the specifications?
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post Dec 30 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Dec 30 2013, 01:39 PM)
I see, thanks for the information. Next is between those 2 which has better signal strength? How do I see it from the specifications?
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Hard to tell as I do not use this before.
Assume you are only 2 floor house, it should be sufficient enough for both model
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post Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM

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Get ASUS, they are pricy, but much more stable compared to TP-Link.
TP-Link provides crappy & rarely updated firmware.

How do I know? I've own several TP-Link & ASUS routers.
Tested all of them, ASUS is still the best.

My list of routers:
TP-Link:
TL-WR1043ND
TL-WDR4300

ASUS:
RT-N16
RT-AC68U
TSlegenderycity
post Jan 4 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 1 2014, 08:45 PM)
Get ASUS, they are pricy, but much more stable compared to TP-Link.
TP-Link provides crappy & rarely updated firmware.

How do I know? I've own several TP-Link & ASUS routers.
Tested all of them, ASUS is still the best.

My list of routers:
TP-Link:
TL-WR1043ND
TL-WDR4300

ASUS:
RT-N16
RT-AC68U
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I see. Coz last time had bad experience with their oplay so I try to stay away. Anyway I just saw their router just now and felt it has more features and i do agree that tp link is not stable. Which Asus router do I recommend?
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Jan 4 2014, 09:59 PM)
I see. Coz last time had bad experience with their oplay so I try to stay away. Anyway I just saw their router just now and felt it has more features and i do agree that tp link is not stable. Which Asus router do I recommend?
That depends on your budget.
Personally, I'd recommend the RT-AC68U because of it's speed, reliability & wireless coverage.

But if budget is limited, RT-N16 then. Still better than any TP-Link routers I've ever used.

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jan 4 2014, 10:37 PM
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post Jan 4 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 4 2014, 10:37 PM)
That depends on your budget.
Personally, I'd recommend the RT-AC68U because of it's speed, reliability & wireless coverage.

But if budget is limited, RT-N16 then. Still better than any TP-Link routers I've ever used.
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How much is the AC68U? My budget stated in previous post. Preferably RM100+, lower than RM300 if possible. Most importantly I want Bandwidth limiting and good wireless coverage.
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post Jan 4 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Jan 4 2014, 10:58 PM)
How much is the AC68U? My budget stated in previous post. Preferably RM100+, lower than RM300 if possible. Most importantly I want Bandwidth limiting and good wireless coverage.
Cheapest AC68U would be RM680.

With your budget, here's what you can get:

Routers with internal antennas:
ASUS RT-N13U - RM159
ASUS RT-N14U - RM199
ASUS RT-N15U - RM190
ASUS RT-N53 - RM248

Routers with external antennas:
ASUS RT-N10U - RM139
ASUS RT-N12 - RM117
ASUS RT-N12HP - RM179

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I've never used any of these routers I've listed above, thus I do not know if they have the bandwidth limiting capability. You'll have to google them out yourself. I've only used RT-N16 & RT-AC68U.
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post Jan 5 2014, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 4 2014, 11:28 PM)
Cheapest AC68U would be RM680.

With your budget, here's what you can get:

Routers with internal antennas:
ASUS RT-N13U - RM159
ASUS RT-N14U - RM199
ASUS RT-N15U - RM190
ASUS RT-N53 - RM248

Routers with external antennas:
ASUS RT-N10U - RM139
ASUS RT-N12 - RM117
ASUS RT-N12HP - RM179

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I've never used any of these routers I've listed above, thus I do not know if they have the bandwidth limiting capability. You'll have to google them out yourself. I've only used RT-N16 & RT-AC68U.
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Hmm just wondering how do you tell the router's signal strength from its specs?

Anyway I just took a look at those few routers and find the RT-N14U with pc off download feature quite interesting. Have u tried it before?

This post has been edited by legenderycity: Jan 5 2014, 07:48 PM
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post Jan 5 2014, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Jan 5 2014, 07:22 PM)
Hmm just wondering how do you tell the router's signal strength from its specs?
You can't.
You'll have to try it for yourself.

There's a reason why external antennas is always better than internal antennas.
Routers with external antennas are mostly upgradeable. You can change the antenna into a better one to increase it's range.
Routers with internal antennas however are not upgradeable.

I've always stayed away from routers with internal antennas.
QUOTE(legenderycity @ Jan 5 2014, 07:22 PM)
Anyway I just took a look at those few routers and find the RT-N14U with pc off download feature quite interesting. Have u tried it before?
Yes, been using the download feature since the first day I used RT-N16. It's also available in RT-AC68U.
The router will download torrents & save it into any USB storage that you connect to the router.
This way, you can use the router to download torrents & not having to turn on your PC / laptop to save electricity.

Just remember this, once you bought the router, remember to change the admin password so your cousin wouldn't be able to change anything inside the router.
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post Jan 5 2014, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 5 2014, 09:14 PM)
You can't.
You'll have to try it for yourself.

There's a reason why external antennas is always better than internal antennas.
Routers with external antennas are mostly upgradeable. You can change the antenna into a better one to increase it's range.
Routers with internal antennas however are not upgradeable.

I've always stayed away from routers with internal antennas.
Yes, been using the download feature since the first day I used RT-N16. It's also available in RT-AC68U.
The router will download torrents & save it into any USB storage that you connect to the router.
This way, you can use the router to download torrents & not having to turn on your PC / laptop to save electricity.

Just remember this, once you bought the router, remember to change the admin password so your cousin wouldn't be able to change anything inside the router.
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I see. Guess I will go for the RT-N14U since it has the pc off download and within my budget. Thanks for the help bro notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Jan 5 2014, 10:49 PM)
I see. Guess I will go for the RT-N14U since it has the pc off download and within my budget. Thanks for the help bro notworthy.gif
Consider adding a few extra bucks for the RT-N16.
The extra USB port can be used to connect to a USB printer & change it into a network printer.
With that, you can print from Smart Phone/PC/Laptop/WiFi Capable Cameras within the network.

1 port for USB storage, 1 port for USB printer.

RT-N16 vs RT-N14U
USB: 2 ports vs 1 port
Ethernet: Gigabit (1000Mb/s) Lan vs 100Mb/s Lan
CPU: Broadcom vs MediaTek
Flash: 32MB vs 16MB
RAM: 128MB vs 64MB
Antennas: Upgradeable External vs Non-Upgradeable Internal

3rd Party Firmware Support:
RT-N16: OpenWrt, DD-WRT, Tomato & Asuswrt-Merlin.
RT-N14U: None.
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post Jan 5 2014, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 5 2014, 11:13 PM)
Consider adding a few extra bucks for the RT-N16.
The extra USB port can be used to connect to a USB printer & change it into a network printer.
With that, you can print from Smart Phone/PC/Laptop/WiFi Capable Cameras within the network.

1 port for USB storage, 1 port for USB printer.

RT-N16 vs RT-N14U
USB: 2 ports vs 1 port
Ethernet: Gigabit (1000Mb/s) Lan vs 100Mb/s Lan
CPU: Broadcom vs MediaTek
Flash: 32MB vs 16MB
RAM: 128MB vs 64MB
Antennas: Upgradeable External vs Non-Upgradeable Internal

3rd Party Firmware Support:
RT-N16: OpenWrt, DD-WRT, Tomato & Asuswrt-Merlin.
RT-N14U: None.
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Haha i tought the N16 is 100 bucks more expensive than the 14u? sweat.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Jan 5 2014, 11:34 PM)
Haha i tought the N16 is 100 bucks more expensive than the 14u? sweat.gif
The cheapest would be RM329.
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post Jan 10 2014, 12:24 AM

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Used RT-N16 before as DualWAN Router , for 2x1Mbps Streamyx, QOS and bandwidth monitoring.

Asus RT-N16 is really a good hardware and platform for customize.
Recommend for advance super, but beginner may choose other to use stock rom or other model.
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post Mar 1 2014, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 6 2014, 01:31 AM)
The cheapest would be RM329.
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QUOTE(war3boy @ Jan 10 2014, 12:24 AM)
Used RT-N16 before as DualWAN Router , for 2x1Mbps Streamyx, QOS and bandwidth monitoring.

Asus RT-N16 is really a good hardware and platform for customize.
Recommend for advance super, but beginner may choose other to use stock rom or other model.
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Sorry for bringing up this topic, but just wondering can you tell me in detail how does the bandwidth monitoring works? Do I set a limit for each pc? Or can it be more flexible? Eg: Giving PC A 90% of bandwidth when needed only and when it is off or idle, PC B gets 90% of the bandwidth instead.
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Mar 1 2014, 06:13 PM)
Sorry for bringing up this topic, but just wondering can you tell me in detail how does the bandwidth monitoring works? Do I set a limit for each pc? Or can it be more flexible? Eg: Giving PC A 90% of bandwidth when needed only and when it is off or idle, PC B gets 90% of the bandwidth instead.
You can set the QOS to run at specified times.
It doesn't run automatically like when it's needed & stops when it's not needed.
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Mar 1 2014, 06:13 PM)
Sorry for bringing up this topic, but just wondering can you tell me in detail how does the bandwidth monitoring works? Do I set a limit for each pc? Or can it be more flexible? Eg: Giving PC A 90% of bandwidth when needed only and when it is off or idle, PC B gets 90% of the bandwidth instead.
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In the way i work, i didn't reserve bandwidth for each PC.
However, i do shaping on the traffic.

Mean when the router receive the traffic for example: HTTP / HTTPS, it will give priority to that traffic and pass it out first.
Bandwidth Monitoring is one software that help you analysis your traffic volume. smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 03:55 PM

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Okay I'm most likely going for the RT-N14U since its only RM180. But before i buy it just want to confirm, how does the current QOS system for the N14U looks like? I did some googling and couldn't find a specific answer. Can anyone show me a screenshot of it?
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Mar 20 2014, 03:55 PM)
Okay I'm most likely going for the RT-N14U since its only RM180. But before i buy it just want to confirm, how does the current QOS system for the N14U looks like? I did some googling and couldn't find a specific answer. Can anyone show me a screenshot of it?
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You may want look at this
http://event.asus.com/2012/nw/dummy_ui/en/
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post Mar 22 2014, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(hinamoriamu @ Mar 21 2014, 10:01 PM)
So this system is the same for the N14U right? Because I'm afraid that the N14U will have a one with less functions
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Mar 22 2014, 12:35 AM)
So this system is the same for the N14U right? Because I'm afraid that the N14U will have a one with less functions
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Mostly it will look same, but you may refer to function list or ask asus support thread for confirmation on lowyat
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I could sell you Mikrotik RB951-G with a good bandwidth management

It cost you RM 350 for the router

The config and setup charge can be arrange

Comes with 128MB RAM and high end wireless radio

http://i.mt.lv/routerboard/files/RB951G-2HnD.pdf




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