This is illogical.. the scammer is Lam Chee Hong.. What explanation can you give?.. prove that you're innocent..scammers got no where to run, once we've got you, we've got you.. There can only be so many excuses and you will eventually run out of them.

Okay assuming that Lam Chee Hong is innocent... heres the scam details..

I transfered $100 egold to his acc.. we were communicating via msn.. his email is
come2bet@hotmail.com and nickname is come2bet. His LYN nick is XinXin.

He paid me RM350 via M2U

Account Holder Name: LAM CHEE CHOONG
Account Number: 114366068074

So, if the scammer is not Lam Chee Hong, how can he have access to his m2u acc and make payments?

this suspect (XinXin) is known to commit ID theft & hijack, alter & abuse screenshots to commit fraud.

p_otential_c, regarding the transfer of RM350 via mb2u, do u still have the screenshot & email? we need to be certain from which acc# the RM350 really came from.

p_otential_c, so we can at least confirm suspect (XinXin) uses e-gold acc# 3360808 (Come2bet) right?

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This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 22 2006, 09:24 PM

affirmative.. his egold is confirmed. I do not have the screen shot but im certain the acc# is correct. The questions left now is how did xinxin gain access to the m2u acc..it is almost impossible so the primary suspect is still lam chee hong.

There is no signs of alter & abuse off screenshot as THERE CAN BE NON. The notification is MAYBANK GENERATED...Lam Chee Hong has to answer this now...

If the excuse is his maybank acc was compromised or hacked that it cannot be accepted as a loss of rm350 would be noticed immediately and shown in the records and he would have lodged a report. Why didnt he do this?..

All this circumstancial evidence will only point to him... he will now have to answer it.

A transaction record can easily be obtained if requested from a maybank branch.. there can be no cover ups. Now lets see what has he got to say about this.

This post has been edited by p_otential_c: Jul 22 2006, 11:00 PM

i'm not a seller, so i dont have ppl transfering money to my mb2u account b4 but i'm pretty sure u have no way to know 100% where the RM350 came from unless mb2u sends u an email notifying "MR XXX has transferred RM350 to ur account", or the buyer sends u a real (unedited) screenshot right?

did u get the name & acc# by calling up maybank personnel?

This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 22 2006, 11:02 PM

The email generated message would have to be filled by the person paying.. in this case he did not so i didnt receive any email notifications.. However i did receive a notification when i logged in to my m2u and during that time they had provided the transaction details.. its lam chee hong...

The maybank personnel mentioned that i would have to register for phone banking for them to access my transaction history...

As of now it doesnt matter.. lam chee hong would have to answer.. the proof will come.. sooner or later..

This post has been edited by p_otential_c: Jul 22 2006, 11:04 PM

I see, sorry I din't know mb2u autogenerates a notification for 3rd party transfer coming in. I do have one last question though, y u keep saying 'lam chee hong" in all ur posts vs LAM CHEE CHOONG??


Edit: did the mb2u auto-notification list name&acc# or just name only?

Edit2: a simple check with yellowpages inidicated there are many 'lam chee hong's with registered landlines & only 1 'LAM CHEE CHOONG' with a registered line. guess its a pretty common name.

This post has been edited by acougan: Jul 22 2006, 11:33 PM

Did you receive the 3rd party notification or not? Previous message u said u received the notification, but this message u said u didnt receive any email notification? How did u see the "transaction details" with his name/account number if he didnt fill out the 3rd party email address?

Let's say u received a "notification", did u double check the email address, are u sure that it was a REAL notification, and not fake notification generated by fake m2u site? (just like the fake paypal site sending fake paypal notification i posted in the 1st post)

So did u manage to access ur transaction history actually? How to see "transaction details" in m2u? I can see only who and what i paid for, but i dunno how to see who made payment to me. Can u pls teach? (Or yea... if u've obtained ur transaction history from maybank branch, with "lam chee "X"ong's name on it, why not scan and show us?)

So who is Lam Chee Hong and who is Lam Chee Chong?

This post has been edited by shark: Jul 23 2006, 08:50 AM

This is one of the reason that I can think of: -

LAM CHEE CHOONG is a another victim of 3rd Party Scam as well. XinXin want to buy e-gold from you and LAM CHEE CHOONG trying to buy e-gold from XinXin. So, XinXin order e-gold from you and give your bank a/c number to LAM CHEE CHOONG. XinXin expect LAM to bank-in money to your a/c then you can send e-gold to XinXin. The only thing that XinXin can't control is the amount that LAM finally bank-in.

So, there is a possibility that LAM is not a scammer, instead a victim of a scam case. Look at this, if LAM really is the real scam, why he want to bank-in RM350 to you? He can just eat all your e-gold and run away.

This post has been edited by r2gold: Jul 23 2006, 11:08 AM

well you see.. when you first receive funds from someone.. the first time you log in and check there will be a notification saying that you have received funds from blablabla acc... But after that there will be no records of the account unless you go to a maybank branch to request for it or if you have phone banking services(which i dont have) they can check it for you.. as the ammount ive lost is RM20, im not too free to go to the bank or atm to do al this as im quite busy at the moment.. but sooner or later i will do it to reveal the scammer..

when i received it it happens to be from Lam Chee Hong..

Look at where lam chee hong is now.. come on and explain... what can you say...

I a not surprised if some or the posts here are from the same person to try to defend him as this a technique used by scammers trying to escape... the mods would be able to tell if they have the same IP...

Why he want to bank in 350 to me?.. heres the reason..

And what are you talking about, if it was a scam Lam would have made reports about it...and if your conclusion is right Lam Chee Hong would have mentioned it but he claims that he doesnt know me and hasnt dealt with me before..

these are all circumstancial evidance and it will all build up and point at him...

heres the quote
I will try to go to a maybank branch to get a copy of the transaction history and to really confirm who the depositor really is.. the objective of this post should be constuctive and to reveal the real scammer.

As of now, Lam Chee Hong cannot be said to be at fault until i receive the hard copy proof from maybank.

This post has been edited by p_otential_c: Jul 23 2006, 08:38 PM

p_otential_c,

to summarize;

1. mb2u auto-notifies u when u login (around Jul7th?) that a 3rd party transfer of RM350 is coming in from 'lam chee hong'. was the acc# stated also?

2. u do realise forumer lmcckl declare his name as LAM CHEE CHOONG, right? his mb2u savings acc# is 11XX66XX80XX as stated in his screenshot. why r u so adamant these two different names belong to 1 person?


reminder: alot of LYN IDs and leongIDs is mixed up in this paypal/e-gold case. who is the true victim & who is an acomplice is difficult to prove, thats why we try to gather as much info on suspect (XinXin) and his M.O. to prevent future fraud cases.

reminder2: i'm 99% sure this is all a misunderstanding stemming from an earlier post from zorex at the other thread. forumer lmcckl, if u feel uncomfortable having ur name & acc# openly displayed, pls let me know & i'll edit accordingly.
forumer p_otential_c still havn't verify where the RM350 transfer came from.

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This post has been edited by acougan: Aug 19 2006, 04:40 AM

Why suddently Lam Chee Hong pop up in this case? Isn't it only Lam Chee Choong?

I will try to go to a maybank branch this weekend if i am free, as off now lam chee choong cannot be put to blame..... as the ammount ive lost is rm20, i am not that compelled to spend all of my time over it.. but for the benefit of all LYN members, i will try to contribute as well..

Beware of Online Bookie(s)

note: i have nothing against online bookies (even though they deal with illegal betting), but when they are so low that they keep coming back with their schemes & frauds at LYN, i just want more forumers to beware!

just remember! any paypal/e-gold deals involving EK Trading is bad news! photography equipment/gadgets offered at tempting discounts are also suspicious!

reminder: online bookies also have many ICNos # & bank acc# from their regular customers!

This post has been edited by acougan: Aug 26 2006, 12:00 PM

BEWARE OF SCAMMER/ONLINE BOOKIE


list of LYN victims: klww2001, zorex, lmcckl, p_otential_c, r2gold, magpies14, choiheng, slacx, esssymanex......
list of lelong victims: moresales, leekhoe@maxxeric, mintec, alamjaya, walao88, iweblite, ....
(there r a few more victims at those photography forums)

pls note mintec & alamjaya are established lelongers. LYN nicks alamjaya, mintec_2001 are spoof IDs used by suspect. magpeis14@gmail.com is also a spoof of trader magpies14. cheewooi23 is yet another spoof on member cheewooi


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suspect's contact: 0178500810, come2bet@hotmail.com, r2goldcom(YM ID), e-gold acc# 3360808, digi88mobile@hotmail.com, 0128753310, Chow Mun Keong, alancydic@hotmail.com, egold no: 3135142, LYNX TIONG XUNJIA, 0983664, quarts818@yahoo.com, CHANG SZE SEONG, bl_rss@yahoo.com, William Tan, williamtan1961@yahoo.com, 0194830300, ektrading@gmail.com, magpeis14@gmail.com, , 014-8829291, Andy Seo, tmgemini@gmail.com, 014-6811859, EMMTRADING@gmail.com, Goon Chin Chung, Lee Cheng Kiat, etc....

update: Chong Tze Seong, ctze_seong@hotmail.com will be listed under 'VERY SUSPICIOUS' category, waiting for further confirmations.

update2: DANG THE AN from goldert may be a victim of ID theft/hijack


suspected LYN nicks: Makan_makan, XinXin, ServerDown, alamjaya, mintec_2001, alancydic, fellowes, Gadgeter, ^Chubb^, cheewooi23, finalsky, edward5105, wilsterman03, etc..........


these suspects most likely operate in a gang or they just copycat each other's M.O. 'vultures of a feather flock together'


suspect's M.O.:
1. pretend to be initiate trade to glean name & maybank acc# info from others via LYN PMs or IM.
2. register nicks, email and other spoof IDs similar to other genuine traders to create confusion & cover tracks.
3. alter/abuse screenshots from others to perform identity theft & fraud.
4. suspects are most probably online bookies/loansharkers - uses the ICNo. & mb2u of his 'clients'. convince victims to top-up their own internet bookie account - ezbets, ektrading, yishengbo
5. on the prowl at lelong, LYN, Free-to-ZOUK, other photography forums & all those HYIP e-gold forums.

related links;

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=308959
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=289170
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=300333
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=314427
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=282287
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=240769
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=278355
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=323982
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=267776
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=263265
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=271518
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=326060

http://bbs.lelong.com.my/bbs/showthread.php?t=24171
http://bbs.lelong.com.my/bbs/showthread.php?t=24787

http://photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?p=636
http://photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13755
http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11754
http://www.photokaki.com/forum/viewtopic.p...bebb962800a2fca

http://www.nogold.com/forum/alert/12496-bl...take-notes.html

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:br1o1C...y&ct=clnk&cd=10
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:nDJRS9...my&ct=clnk&cd=1
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:A-AhyB...my&ct=clnk&cd=1
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:3q-lS1...my&ct=clnk&cd=1
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:eFwLwv...y&ct=clnk&cd=10
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:9FRRwV_...my&ct=clnk&cd=2
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:0GdGbeJ...my&ct=clnk&cd=1
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardw...jaks/index.php3

^ sorry if some of the google cache links r not working. they are not static, please use google with the above emails to get the working links





lelong admin posted a warning regarding this kind of identity theft/fraud;
http://bbs.buysell.net.my/bbs/showthread.php?t=18107




http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/372664
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/373036
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This post has been edited by acougan: Mar 31 2007, 09:58 PM

I think information from this topic should be compiled and put into the Resource Center. Any volunteers?

u mean create a new topic to warn of this kind of ID theft/hijack/spoof M.O.? or simply a topic to list/suggest prevention/precautionary steps when trading online and banking in? i admit this thread abit of a mess, i can edit and rewrite most of the pointers.

anyway account alancydic still logs in from time to time to pm newbie paypal/e-gold traders



This post has been edited by acougan: Sep 29 2006, 05:28 PM

re: [wta]about 'serverdown' this people... by lcyeap90 Yesterday, 10:48 PM



i'm bumping this post becos account ServerDown recently login to pm some potential buyers & sellers. hopefully, ppl will beware & be alert. thats all.


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it seems this scammer/group of scammers have struck again. the usual M.O. hopefully a small bump now can alert potential victims in the future.

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Added on February 3, 2007, 8:21 pmsince last year, i've been waiting for a

Chong Tze Seong, ctze_seong@hotmail.com, of MAYBANK ACC NO:114478068997

to clear his name/connection with this bookie/paypal scammer. someone tip me off the real Chong Tze Seong is aware of the lelong thread about him back in august.


http://bbs.lelong.com.my/bbs/showthread.php?t=24787

it appears the scammer is back in action. whether the scammer is Chong Tze Seong or someone close who is using his mb2u account, hopefully police will track him down.




This post has been edited by acougan: Feb 3 2007, 08:21 PM