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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2013, Liv vs Stoke - CH811 or 831 @ 2355

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normeck
post Dec 19 2013, 12:57 PM

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there is a group of Liverpool grandfather here who like to post lenghty post, surely its informative....

then come a storm where these grandfather move away from posting at Lowyat and gather at myrawk...

i think its johnkor or something.....he is very sad till today not post anything more.....


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post Dec 19 2013, 01:00 PM

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The boss talks about large contracts offered to young players.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...ed-boss-2940189?

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Like Flanagan, Sterling has fought his way back into the first team picture, in part because the manager has stressed the need to structure deals to reflect achievement, not potential.

Rodgers said as much when he agreed an incentive-based contract with Sterling last year.

"I have seen it so much with young players. You see these young boys play one or two games, they get handed these incredible contracts and it goes downhill from there," he explained.

"When they reach 22 or 23 years of age, you hear people ask, 'What has happened to so and so?' The biggest thing that distorts the reality of footballers is money. If we are going to help young footballers, you have to protect them and not give them big contracts.

"You are seeing young players who are multi-millionaires and, no matter what you say, it takes the edge off them."
Could not agree more. Incentive based contracts are the way to go with young players.
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 19 2013, 01:00 PM)
The boss talks about large contracts offered to young players.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...ed-boss-2940189?
Could not agree more. Incentive based contracts are the way to go with young players.
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yup but if we dont offer better contract then other team will come to poach our player. Just like sterling last time.. In the end, the player himself should change their attitude
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Dec 19 2013, 12:48 PM)
We,  Arsenal would like to buy suarez_kun for 40.2million. Better than last time..  Ok? Hehe
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sorry la arsenal is very2 poor club..if get suarez 50m they cant afford to pay his wage.. Just train your baba sanogo first then sell to barca 40m and you can knock for suarez that time
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:28 PM

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I think that's a common conflict between the men in suits and the manager/coach. Managers/coaches want the best deal possible for their players - sometimes this includes lowering the pay to incite ambition and hunger from the players. But the man in suits look at players as business assets and throw money at them in hoping to rebuff other club's interests.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:20 PM)
yup but if we dont offer better contract then other team will come to poach our player. Just like sterling last time.. In the end, the player himself should change their attitude
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Which is why he's saying that the entire system is flawed as clubs are throwing large amounts of money at young players and ultimately, a large proportion of them have disappeared into obscurity because they stop trying. It is why he's suggesting that contracts should be incentive based to young players have to continue to improve and perform. He isn't suggesting that we are the only club who should do this.
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:29 PM

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...r-signings.html

Seems like even AVB doesnt want Eriksen. Why a lot of top manager doesnt want him? He looks good and one of the brightest of all the 7 big signings of Spurs. It surprised me actually... When he left 1 year contract and up for grab, no one bother to put in effort to sign him either...it surprised me really..
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post Dec 19 2013, 01:38 PM

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bro,

didnt give up. just become a durian/jackfruit/papaya farmer...haha biggrin.gif

QUOTE(bearbear @ Dec 19 2013, 10:03 AM)
he is, old timer. nod.gif

i thought you gave up  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:29 PM)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...r-signings.html

Seems like even AVB doesnt want Eriksen. Why a lot of top manager doesnt want him? He looks good and one of the brightest of all the 7 big signings of Spurs. It surprised me actually... When he left 1 year contract and up for grab, no one bother to put in effort to sign him either...it surprised me really..
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the versatility problem and team fit... he will be dead to play Left side coz of his slow pace, he not score too much to play SS, he doesnt have the engine to be in CM in 4-4-2.. he is a purely Attacking midfield just like riquelme.. problem with spurs is soldado.. he's targetman.. there's no point you give the through pass to targetman
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:29 PM)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...r-signings.html

Seems like even AVB doesnt want Eriksen. Why a lot of top manager doesnt want him? He looks good and one of the brightest of all the 7 big signings of Spurs. It surprised me actually... When he left 1 year contract and up for grab, no one bother to put in effort to sign him either...it surprised me really..
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Rafa didn't get all the players he wanted but he made do with what he had. Alvez, Simao, Silva, Jovetic and Barry just to name a few. And BR too missed out a few targets last season when we failed to sign Sigurdson, Dempsey and Sturridge during the summer. Must be really hard for AVB to had to settle for the likes of Eriksen, Soldado, Chadli and Lamela. Even if they were not his first choice, they are still quality players. He didn't have plan B and as Carra pointed out, not one of the 10 signings made any significant impact this season. I wonder what BR or Rafa could do if they had the luxury of having those kind of players as 2nd choice.
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Dec 19 2013, 12:57 PM)
there is a group of Liverpool grandfather here who like to post lenghty post, surely its informative....

then come a storm where these grandfather move away from posting at Lowyat and gather at myrawk...

i think its johnkor or something.....he is very sad till today not post anything more.....
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Norm, seriously? I can fully understand his frustrations. There are some people who claims to be spitting out truth but always taking a dig at people which makes this thread less enjoyable. Tell him to come back!

We got jokers like you, me, moody, everdying, props
We got analyst like mark, hfi, led, duke, lerijiso
We got w@nker topic starter in WTS.
We got pessimist leader with a different view In cherroy whom unlike some can converse like a brother.
We got sham with a funny avatar and Mikey, hafiz the hardcore die hard fan smile.gif
We got batman with dirt in his mind and a Spider-man Koolspyda.
The fun time is back biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by dillonyong: Dec 19 2013, 02:20 PM
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Funny read this at other site

" Luis we'll give you 200k if you remove the goal bonus clause. At this rate you are going to bankrupt the club! "
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Dec 19 2013, 01:29 PM)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...r-signings.html

Seems like even AVB doesnt want Eriksen. Why a lot of top manager doesnt want him? He looks good and one of the brightest of all the 7 big signings of Spurs. It surprised me actually... When he left 1 year contract and up for grab, no one bother to put in effort to sign him either...it surprised me really..
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Eriksen not monkey siging ler......... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Dec 19 2013, 01:38 PM)
bro,

didnt give up. just become a durian/jackfruit/papaya farmer...haha biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Dec 19 2013, 02:19 PM)
Norm, seriously? I can fully understand his frustrations. There are some people who claims to be spitting out truth but always taking a dig at people which makes this thread less enjoyable. Tell him to come back!

We got jokers like you, me, moody, everdying, props
We got analyst like mark, hfi, led, duke, lerijiso
We got w@nker topic starter in WTS.
We got pessimist leader with a different view In cherroy whom unlike some can converse like a brother.
We got sham with a funny avatar and Mikey, hafiz the hardcore die hard fan smile.gif
We got batman with dirt in his mind and a Spider-man Koolspyda.
The fun time is back biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Dec 19 2013, 02:19 PM)
Norm, seriously? I can fully understand his frustrations. There are some people who claims to be spitting out truth but always taking a dig at people which makes this thread less enjoyable. Tell him to come back!

We got jokers like you, me, moody, everdying, props
We got analyst like mark, hfi, led, duke, lerijiso
We got w@nker topic starter in WTS.
We got pessimist leader with a different view In cherroy whom unlike some can converse like a brother.
We got sham with a funny avatar and Mikey, hafiz the hardcore die hard fan smile.gif
We got batman with dirt in his mind and a Spider-man Koolspyda.
The fun time is back biggrin.gif
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Dirt? Real dirt or guy's passion dirt? brows.gif
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post Dec 19 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Dec 19 2013, 12:57 PM)
there is a group of Liverpool grandfather here who like to post lenghty post, surely its informative....

then come a storm where these grandfather move away from posting at Lowyat and gather at myrawk...

i think its johnkor or something.....he is very sad till today not post anything more.....
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Old timer is good . Got a feeling that this thread has been invaded by happy clapping kids at one point. Para is def most welcomed back as TS
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chilli was a failed JV project. not so good with it. lolx

saw an analysis about the Spurs game that they keep saying AVB played into BR's strategy. Why cant they just give credit to the so called underperforming players like "Henderson, Allen, Sterling & Flangan" ??

Just by the video on our pressing of Spurs Sterling was like on steroids...



QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 19 2013, 03:02 PM)
Chilli?  tongue.gif

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Suarez offered performance contract

Baseline Wage 150k

Season PL goals bonus

0-5 goals Zero

6-10 goals 1mil

11-15 goals 2mil

15-20 goals 5mil

21 to 25 goals 9mil

26 to 30 goals 12mil

>30 goals 880k per goal


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QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Dec 19 2013, 03:10 PM)
chilli was a failed JV project. not so good with it. lolx

saw an analysis about the Spurs game that they keep saying AVB played into BR's strategy. Why cant they just give credit to the so called underperforming players like "Henderson, Allen, Sterling & Flangan" ??

Just by the video on our pressing of Spurs Sterling was like on steroids...
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Chilli controls good prices, but difficult plant. Root problem?

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