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TSFazab
post Dec 18 2013, 11:36 AM, updated 12y ago

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For health and safety reasons, I am considering to put my gas tank outside the house, behind kitchen.
Will built a concrete table with aluminium door to store and lock it. (Like the tong sampah in front)

problem is the piping will have to be at least 8 ft long to reach my gas hob.

Will that be a danger if I just use normal gas hose? Or should I install copper gas pipes for this purpose.

We cook a lot, and wifey refuse to use induction cooker (no fire, cannot fry big big)
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post Dec 18 2013, 05:00 PM

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If the gas hose is sheltered from the elements, it should be fine. Mine is the same, except to the side of the house where the garden is. I also built a concrete table with steel doors to lock it. I then drilled a hole through the wall, large enough to put the hose through. I believe you can buy better quality gas hose from hardware shops ( high pressure, thicker ).
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post Dec 18 2013, 11:53 PM

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Your idea is sound except for using the flexible hose, you should use a copper fixed line.

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tmchong
post Dec 19 2013, 12:15 AM

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Copper pipe, being rigid, would be difficult to install and remove with the gas cylinder.
Since the hose is not exposed, a flexible plastic hose with the ring which can be tightened, is good enough.
TSFazab
post Dec 19 2013, 09:09 PM

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Thanks for the comments.

If my budget allow, I think I will fit a copper pipe.

The tank and hob will connect to the copper by short stretch of rubber hose. Feel safer this way.

Still trying to convince wifey to use induction. But TNB naik harga next year........
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post Dec 19 2013, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Fazab @ Dec 19 2013, 09:09 PM)
Thanks for the comments.

If my budget allow, I think I will fit a copper pipe.

The tank and hob will connect to the copper by short stretch of rubber hose. Feel safer this way.

Still trying to convince wifey to use induction.  But TNB naik harga next year........
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post Dec 20 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Fazab @ Dec 19 2013, 09:09 PM)
Thanks for the comments.

If my budget allow, I think I will fit a copper pipe.

The tank and hob will connect to the copper by short stretch of rubber hose. Feel safer this way.

Still trying to convince wifey to use induction.  But TNB naik harga next year........
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Yes you are right, its definitely safer that way.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if there is something in the Malaysian building codes that specify the long supply line must be ridged (there certainly is in other counties I have lived). Of course the last few feet connection at each end can be flexible, but these ends are easy to inspect for wear/deterioration and replace as needed.


Induction is OK for some things, ie boiling soup, pan frying etc But not really fantastic for wok cooking. 1st it doesnt give the same high heat and 2nd you cant as rapidly change the wok heat as you would with gas with the thin old style black steel wok by lo to high and high to low heat. since the Wok used for Induction cooing tends to be thicker and thus heats up and cools down slower giving a lag to any change in heat input at the control.

Also in Malaysia Electric Energy is much much much more expensive than gas Energy. So Gas hob will definitely cheaper utility bills.

from http://myaga.me/propane/barbequing/how-much-propane "One kilo of propane contains 12.8 kWh of energy. This means a 11-kg propane cylinder will produce over 140 kWh of energy." Last time I bought a cylinder of gas (quite a few years ago since my condo has pipe gas) it was lest than RM20 for a 11kg bottle. I think these days its around RM25, right?

Electricity costs roughly 40 sen/kWh so to get the same energy as from a 11kg bottle of propane would cost 140kWhx0.4sen = RM56 in electricity.

So Electricity cost is about double of Gas (which is subsidised).

Cheers


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post Dec 20 2013, 09:01 PM

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Make sure your gas storage place is well ventilated.
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post Jul 1 2015, 09:08 PM

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Any u guys know any contractor who knows how to install copper piping for gas? It seems that not many are willing or able to do so.
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QUOTE(Fazab @ Dec 18 2013, 11:36 AM)
Hi

For health and safety reasons, I am considering to put my gas tank outside the house, behind kitchen.
Will built a concrete table with aluminium door to store and lock it. (Like the tong sampah in front)

problem is the piping will have to be at least 8 ft long to reach my gas hob.

Will that be a danger if I just use normal gas hose? Or should I install copper gas pipes for this purpose.

We cook a lot, and wifey refuse to use induction cooker (no fire, cannot fry big big)
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For safety reason, you eliminate 1 risk, but you created other risks at the same time.

And what are the health reasons that you are concerned?

Better reconsider to just put the tank back in your kitchen. Maybe you can consider to install those wall plug gas detector.

 

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