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 Joint Management Body (JMB/JMC), Committee Member

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cherroy
post Dec 19 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 19 2013, 12:30 PM)
interesting topic.
perhaps it is a wise choice after all for government to impose only qualified property managers to maintain buildings.
and let the property managers answer to the board.
at least get reputable property managers and you would safeguard 50% of the problems already.
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Based on my knowing,
there are not enough qualified and professional property managers around for so many highrise building around.

I involved in JMB/MC before, the cost of employ a professional building management, aka they supply a onsite manager, clerk + handyman, come at a cost of around 9K-11k.

Even employ the property manager, JMB/MC still need to take in charge of many issues as well.
Just those daily and routine job may be be well taken of.

JMB/MC still need to be actively involved to ensure the building is well taken of, financially being well controlled etc.
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post Jan 11 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Jan 11 2014, 05:36 PM)
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What you worried was miss used of funds.

What I mean is more higher standard way..

They will given expensive quotation let you to choose...If JMC members are not aware of the comparison cost..especially those E&E and Plumbing jobs.
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That's why sometimes it is beneficiary to have experienced person or person related to various industries in the committee.
Let the meeting to be more open, invite all resident, proprietor owner to come to meeting, whom may feed back some good suggestion in between.

Engage a proper, more honest property manager/management company to run the show also can help out.
As those experienced manager already knew roughly how much a particular job should be cost.





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post Jan 11 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 11 2014, 03:20 PM)
Do understand, your hard work won't be appreciated. Everyone is out trying to milk money from JMB funds. And some owners may accuse u of corruption. Worse case, they report u to MACC and PDRM. After that, lawsuits here and there. End of the day, u really need to sell yourself for the job. If your background is auditing and currently working in a large audit firm, u may gain some respect. If not, prepare for screaming fest.
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People generally like to complain, but when really need to do the job time, or ask them to join into committee to contribute, all keep quiet, MIA, lot of excuse (no time etc).

Committee generally won't be appreciated by most resident, just get use to it.
But you need people to sacrifice in order for the overall benefit or for the sake on the building.

Whether the committee member trying to milk money or not, actually can be seen or spotted easily.
Just vote out the member if showing such a sign.

If all done according to SOP and strata title act available, there is nothing to fear about the screaming fest or not.
Every major decision is made through AGM/EGM, and hire management company to carry the task, whoever not satisfy, object the resolution, or vote out the current committee member, don't need to shout.
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post Jan 12 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Jan 11 2014, 06:00 PM)
Due to high demand, getting honest property manager/management company is not easy.. lots of bad apples in the market... if not careful enu.. alll funds will be gone in short period..
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That why JMB/MC must put some "control" on the hired management company.
Any spending (apart from petty cash that range few hundred buck), must get the consent from JMB/MC.

Management company run the routine daily work, ensure daily basic necessity issue is run properly, while JMB/MC is the one decide what to spend.

From experience, there are some good property manager/management company, while there might be some that not that professional.

You do not need to have those top notch one, as whether how well the management a lot of time run depended largely on the JMB/MC.

Simply throw everything to management company and let the management company to decide is a big no no.


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post Jan 25 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(kukai @ Jan 25 2016, 01:36 AM)
Hello everyone, need your advise on this matter please.

1. Can a JMC member holding position become a Building Manager without having to step down?

Your advise in this is much appreciated, thanks
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It may have conflict of interest issue, by then. So no something advisable.

The newly enacted strata title only limit the term of JMC tenure, it doesn't state building manager can come from JMC member or not.

Also building or management manager is not a mandatory requirement.
As if JMC can run the management on their own, they can opt for not appointing a manager.

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post May 14 2016, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ May 14 2016, 08:11 PM)
If property management and JMC didn't play good role and choose to increase the management fee for deficit. Maintenance fee is already high as RM0.32 and being raised to be RM0.48 and then RM0.575 excluding the sinking fund. What proprietor owners can do to stop the continuous increment?
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The only proprietor owner can do is call for EGM to remove existing JMC.

JMC is empowered to collect management fee for the upkeep of the building, any owner refuse or fail to pay in full on time is considered defaulter.




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post May 15 2016, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ May 15 2016, 10:34 AM)
JMB is passive to ignore the enquiry on the propriety owners without single word after one year. To date, owners have no information on the detailed in EGM and AGM to pass the increment. No information on the proponent, seconder, vote count, effective date, rate of increment, resolution. After enquiring for many times, owner has limited information, but still don't know the detail. In the voting procedure, property management determine who can vote and who can not vote and some disqualified candidate can be candidate. Since JMB remain silent at any condition and pay property management well, property management stands to entertain the owner and protect the JMB. First increment is temporarily for 4 months to cover OPEX, but now it does seem use to cover CAPEX. Seem JMB may continue to increase the maintenance fee with no end. Owners are relundant to join current JMB since the JMB is so negative and has risk to be sued. Owners requested property management to have EGM discussing on this issue during Chinese New Year period, but being ignored and owners are hard to see those minutes locked posted limited time in office and no full owners list to contact. My last communication, property management said the payment rate more than 80%, but JMB starts to use for CAPEX. What's a single owner who concern my pocket can do?
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This is the root of problem.
A negative thinking/mindset, won't be able to rectify anything.
Owners need to be proactive and willing to remove the existing JMC and become JMC themselves if doesn't satisfy about current situation.

I had seen plenty of cases, that owners constantly complaining about existing management, but when tell them to involve directly time, lot of them "chicken out" already with excuses just like above.
No offence. smile.gif

Normally, JMC is covered by office bearer insurance that JMC can use the maintenance fee to pay for it.
Also, if JMC is always acting based on the act that empower them, there is nothing to fear.

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post Mar 21 2018, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Mar 15 2018, 12:31 PM)
the apartment that i wanted to buy don't have strata title
the dev already winding up
currently managed by their own JMB

since the strata title is null, bank do not want to give loan
should i ask JMB to apply strata for that particular parcel only?
is that under JMB reponsibility to make sure all unit got strata title?
if JMB refuse, is it possible for me to apply the strata for current apartment on behalf of the owner?
the owner is old already, do not care much about all those strata, just want to sell the house

i cannot afford to fork out cash to buy the house
and i do not want to buy house with out strata too
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JMB is empowered to take care of the building common area and common interest of owners.

For Strata title, JMB is powerless to do anything nor empowered under the strata title act to do any strata title issuing matter.

Only the developer or owner of the origin master title can sub-divide into strata title.
If developer never sub-divided the land title in the first place, nothing much owner can do except pressuring the developer/master title owner.



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post Oct 16 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(ahboon76 @ Oct 16 2018, 09:59 AM)
My condo decided to held the General annual meeting is a place which not covienience to us. can we suggest to help it near to the condo?
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You can suggest, preferably request in group.

Still, ultimate decision is up to the existing committee.

Normally, what I knew most AGM are conducted within condo area/meeting room.
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post Oct 16 2018, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Oct 16 2018, 01:50 PM)
may i know any conflict of interest of 4 of 7 comminitee was developer staff.
they appoint developer building manager as jmb chairman also.
during first AGM, no people know they are developer staff even introduce them self also no mention. they have take over jmb for first year DLP, after first year they all resign and leaving, many building defect no handle now and account very messy.
maintenance fees increase 10% to clean up their shit work now.
can sue them to COB?
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As long as the committee were appointed based on the strata title act, and committee do not have any breach of trust, then it is nothing wrong.

Even the committee member comes from developer, there is no reason why they want to jeopardise the JMB, a poorly managed JMB that result a poor environment for the building may ruin the developer image for the future.
Instead a well run JMB in fact may boost the developer image, and can attract more people to buy its future launching properties which result people willing to pay a premium for its property.

If the committee members are not up to task, then just call an EGM and vote them out, owner can form their own "group" of people to manage.




 

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