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TSycs
post Jan 19 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Jan 10 2014, 01:13 PM)
After the new 24 CCTV system was up in 2012.With cooperation from security company.

Our condo break in case managed to archive 90% rate of catching the insider jobs.

If break in cases are done by same of group of ppl,we
can easy trace their jobs if they repeat again.

Sad to said,90% of break in cases are chinese,all tenants living in the neighborhood.They formed a criminal gangs and go to rent out several condo to do the jobs.

They are keeping the stolen things in same block of break in unit after 2~3 days they swift out to different condo where they rented.

This was all told by the police when they successful catch the suspecteds.
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my condo got cctv but they say every few months kena lightning strike/surge spoilt the whole system including car entry/exit system. apparently insurance paid until don't want to insure anymore??
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post Jan 19 2014, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 19 2014, 03:29 PM)
my condo got cctv but they say every few months kena lightning strike/surge spoilt the whole system including car entry/exit system. apparently insurance paid until don't want to insure anymore??
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Install surge protector to prevent lightning strike directly..

Almost everything related we installed the protector..

But need to keep monthly maintenance, replace the protectors after any incidents..
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post Jan 19 2014, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Jan 13 2014, 11:25 AM)
is it a good idea to set up a facebook account of JMB so all owners know all the activities, happending in condo/surrounding. quotation, tenders, costs etc

i have a a few condo which has FB account and i found it is very informative.

but some JMB refused to have FB coz it will expose their wrong doing or negative thing about the condo eg break in, poor maintenance etc and affect the value of the condo.

your comments?
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We have management office staffs to handle daily ,we didn't pratising the FB cos eventually we got nothing but scolding and blame..

The lobby floor got a big notice board written in 3 languages..
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post Jan 19 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(cpng75 @ Jan 19 2014, 08:39 PM)
We have management office staffs to handle daily ,we didn't pratising the FB cos eventually we got nothing but scolding and blame..

The lobby floor got a big notice board written in 3 languages..
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i think nowaday people prefer to read notice /comments via social networks..
who wanna to spend time, stand and read the notice board??

my condo has FB page and i dun see people scolding and blame, some residents just want the management to improve, they will also upload some photos so the office can rectify the problem asap. public /resident involvement are much efficient to pin point the defects.
some resident also compliment/praise (or like) the office if they managed the resolved certain problems at once.

i think majority minded residents will ignore unreasonable /non constructive , blaming comments. (if any)

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post Jan 22 2014, 10:46 PM

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http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014...ondominium-CBT/

Condominium management chairman charged with CBT amounting to RM320,000
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post Jan 23 2014, 04:52 PM

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this is a good thread..
i've been looking for this..hehe
i'm 1 of the JMC..and we're in the midst taking over from developer..
so we are now evaluating quotation from several management company..
such as: KJ, JL & Hartanah...
have you guys came across this company?
appreciate if you can give some feedback..

Thanks

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post Jan 23 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 19 2013, 12:30 PM)
interesting topic.
perhaps it is a wise choice after all for government to impose only qualified property managers to maintain buildings.
and let the property managers answer to the board.
at least get reputable property managers and you would safeguard 50% of the problems already.
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"Qualified Property Managers" are rubbish. They also in the take from the suppliers. Worst bcoz they do not own the property, any project is "good" go. And another important fact .... just bcoz they are qualified property management from Valuer Board, they price is calculated by the square feet.

They charge exorbitant fees but hired low class building managers ... so these managers cari makan on the side lor.... brows.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(bobadlin @ Jan 23 2014, 04:52 PM)
this is a good thread..
i've been looking for this..hehe
i'm 1 of the JMC..and we're in the midst taking over from developer..
so we are now evaluating quotation from several management company..
such as: KJ, JL & Hartanah...
have you guys came across this company?
appreciate if you can give some feedback..

Thanks
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I had been in JMC for first 5 years. Retired for the last 3 years.
Experience tells me ALL management companies are the same devil.
My advise: permanently hire a GOOD Building manager & staffs to run your property.
It's cheaper and easily control.

Management Companies only hire cheapo building manager to make more profit.
And you cannot control who the Building manager is....
Bcoz most important factor of a building manager is PR and trustworthiness.
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post Jan 23 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(bobadlin @ Jan 23 2014, 04:52 PM)
this is a good thread..
i've been looking for this..hehe
i'm 1 of the JMC..and we're in the midst taking over from developer..
so we are now evaluating quotation from several management company..
such as: KJ, JL & Hartanah...
have you guys came across this company?
appreciate if you can give some feedback..

Thanks
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i notice rahim and co did quite a decent job in one of the building i visited lately.
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post Jan 25 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Jan 23 2014, 11:00 PM)
"Qualified Property Managers" are rubbish. They also in the take from the suppliers. Worst bcoz they do not own the property, any project is "good" go. And another important fact .... just bcoz they are qualified property management from Valuer Board, they price is calculated by the square feet.

They charge exorbitant fees but hired low class building managers ... so these managers cari makan on the side lor.... brows.gif
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+1.
Many cari makan management companies and managers out there... need to be careful when engaged them... also need to close monitor the managers' activities ... they know all the jalan to take adv!

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post Jan 25 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Jan 23 2014, 11:06 PM)
I had been in JMC for first 5 years. Retired for the last 3 years.
Experience tells me ALL management companies are the same devil.
My advise: permanently hire a GOOD Building manager & staffs to run your property.
It's cheaper and easily control.

Management Companies only hire cheapo building manager to make more profit.
And you cannot control who the Building manager is....
Bcoz most important factor of a building manager is PR and trustworthiness.
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Not easy and cumbersome to direct manage Building manager & staffs... avoid this path when possible..

As the JMC, u hv a say for the build manager to be place at ur management office la! U can ask to join interview and decide the candidate, and decide how much 4 the salary... pay peanut get monkey lor!

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post Jan 25 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 23 2014, 11:14 PM)
i notice rahim and co did quite a decent job in one of the building i visited lately.
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for good manage property, the credit shld go the JMC first, then to management company. Many bad apples even with good name.

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post Jan 25 2014, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Jan 25 2014, 09:04 AM)
for good manage property, the credit shld go the JMC first, then to management company. Many bad apples even with good name.
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+1

Yup...JMC/MCs came first, Building manager the 2nd,the last one is Management agent.


JMC/MC members must not have private agenda first...
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post Jan 25 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Jan 25 2014, 08:55 AM)
+1.
Many cari makan management companies and managers out there... need to be careful when engaged them... also need to close monitor the managers' activities ... they know all the jalan to take adv!
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Management agents and the building managers are cari makan...correct...market pratising it all the while.
But my our condo experience »» as long as you response quickly and get the jobs done perfectly, we don't mind pay a little bit higher if our members not familiar with the areas involved.
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post Jan 25 2014, 11:31 AM

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Another infos regarding fire insurance sharing

As our property value increasing significantly during the decade especially in klang valley.But most of our
condos fire insurance covers remained the same from the starting when we are occupied it

So what I mean the fire insurance policy you have were underinsured.

Take my condo for example,our condo have triple the values.

So we based on the valuation suggestion from the insurance brokerage house, we are increasing our insured amount 10% annually to meet the market value according.

The fire insurance are divided among the oweners,
Management office will rebilling to individuals according so not extra cost for it.

We chosen insurance brokerage house not engaged the insurance company directly, we can get more quotantion among them which the brokerage proposed.Extra benefits maybe the premium much lower and the claims rate & processes definitely fast and higher.

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Jan 23 2014, 11:06 PM)
I had been in JMC for first 5 years. Retired for the last 3 years.
Experience tells me ALL management companies are the same devil.
My advise: permanently hire a GOOD Building manager & staffs to run your property.
It's cheaper and easily control.

Management Companies only hire cheapo building manager to make more profit.
And you cannot control who the Building manager is....
Bcoz most important factor of a building manager is PR and trustworthiness.
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Older generation leader dont prefer this way, they feel like pick up all the responsibility on themselves.


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post Aug 20 2015, 03:27 PM

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Just wondering, so many pple in JMB here, Can recommend a good security company? Im currently a JMC member and would like to propose some options to replace the current company. thanks for your advice. smile.gif
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post Jan 25 2016, 01:36 AM

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Hello everyone, need your advise on this matter please.

1. Can a JMC member holding position become a Building Manager without having to step down?

Your advise in this is much appreciated, thanks
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post Jan 25 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(kukai @ Jan 25 2016, 01:36 AM)
Hello everyone, need your advise on this matter please.

1. Can a JMC member holding position become a Building Manager without having to step down?

Your advise in this is much appreciated, thanks
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It may have conflict of interest issue, by then. So no something advisable.

The newly enacted strata title only limit the term of JMC tenure, it doesn't state building manager can come from JMC member or not.

Also building or management manager is not a mandatory requirement.
As if JMC can run the management on their own, they can opt for not appointing a manager.

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post Feb 12 2016, 02:27 PM

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can those who are MC members help to explain how your condo's 'prayer room' is operated?

i.e. is there a special committee that handles its daily affairs, maintenance, electricity bills?

my condo's 'prayer room' committee only contribute RM100 towards utilities whilst the monthly bill is RM300-RM400

very tricky to solve

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