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TSycs
post Dec 18 2013, 10:35 AM, updated 10y ago

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Anyone tried being or are currently serving in Joint Management Body (JMB)/Management Corporation (MC) of their Condo building?

Can anyone shed some light on some of the duties of being a committee member? Does it take a lot of your time?

My condo's AGM coming up, thinking maybe to try be a committee member?


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post Dec 18 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Dec 18 2013, 10:35 AM)
Anyone tried being or are currently serving in Joint Management Body (JMB)/Management Corporation (MC) of their Condo building?

Can anyone shed some light on some of the duties of being a committee member? Does it take a lot of your time?

My condo's AGM coming up, thinking maybe to try be a committee member?
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The duties of JMB are as below:

a) Maintain the common property and keep it in good serviceable repair;
b) Determine an impose charges for maintenance of common property;
c) Insure the building;
d) Comply with notices and orders by local authorities;
e) Prepare and maintain a register of all purchasers;
f) Ensure that the Building Maintenance fund is audited and provide financial statement to purchasers;
g) Enforce House Rules;

Tough and thanks less job, often get accuse of mis-appropriation and when vendor selected seems to be by your friend/relative ... even if they are good and fairly priced.

get ready for politic/gangster/favouritism/
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post Dec 18 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Dec 18 2013, 10:50 AM)
The duties of JMB are as below:

a) Maintain the common property and keep it in good serviceable repair;
b) Determine an impose charges for maintenance of common property;
c) Insure the building;
d) Comply with notices and orders by local authorities;
e) Prepare and maintain a register of all purchasers;
f) Ensure that the Building Maintenance fund is audited and provide financial statement to purchasers;
g) Enforce House Rules;

Tough and thanks less job, often get accuse of mis-appropriation and when vendor selected seems to be by your friend/relative ... even if they are good and fairly priced. 

get ready for politic/gangster/favouritism/
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Part of the jobs :-

1. Select the preferred vendors and buy a lot of things or services from them.
Enjoy the kick back.

2. Gang up with other committees to massage the accounts and transfer to money to own pocket.

3. .....

TSycs
post Dec 18 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 18 2013, 11:11 AM)
Part of the jobs :-

1. Select the preferred vendors and buy a lot of things or services from them.
    Enjoy the kick back.

2. Gang up with other committees to massage the accounts and transfer to money to own pocket.

3. .....
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thats what i suspect also coz even with sinking fund not enough to paint whole bldg, owners have to top up doh.gif
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:02 PM

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Serving the neighborhood also like doing a charity job..

Keep an eye on the costing of maintenance works,
try to maximum the dollar value from the collections.

You will be dealing many selfish ppl like the owners as well as the other committee members whom has private agenda..
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:08 PM

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The major costing of a condo management were the water/TNB/security.

Repaint the building is last job to considered becos still got others like lifts maintenance especially when the buildings were nearby 10 years old and above.
Many things are going to breakdown...especially the E&E equipments..they are very costing.
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:32 PM

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Is there any salary for committee member or chairman?
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:39 PM

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My condo are pratising change the lighting to T5 instead of LED..The costing of LEDs are the most expensive one,we just used it for spot lights.

T5 is more effective in costing& energy saving. They can bring down about 40% from normal TNB bills.

LEDs are expensive 2~3 times but lifeband is slightly 20% higher than T5..
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post Dec 18 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(12Digit @ Dec 18 2013, 12:32 PM)
Is there any salary for committee member or chairman?
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They are serving as a charity workers to the neighborhood...So is FOC

Some condos may have small meeting allowance or office bearer allowance.
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post Dec 18 2013, 01:02 PM

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We are doing more neighborhood friendly steps to encouraged more owners to get known to their neighborhood.

Announcement /notices are in three languages.Managements or owner meetings also in three languages.

Because many banana ppl using English only to prohibited others languages ppl to take participate so they can doing their own private interest agenda.
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QUOTE(12Digit @ Dec 18 2013, 12:32 PM)
Is there any salary for committee member or chairman?
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generally no but very often already discreetly covered by suppliers whether in ca$h or in kind (eg. spa/massat/f&b/gift/voucher). keep an open eye on cheque signatories as well. allowance if any, is just peanut compared to those kasi by suppliers.

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post Dec 19 2013, 12:03 PM

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There is salaray for committee member but better to endorsed it 1st in AGM
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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Dec 18 2013, 10:50 AM)
The duties of JMB are as below:

a) Maintain the common property and keep it in good serviceable repair;
b) Determine an impose charges for maintenance of common property;
c) Insure the building;
d) Comply with notices and orders by local authorities;
e) Prepare and maintain a register of all purchasers;
f) Ensure that the Building Maintenance fund is audited and provide financial statement to purchasers;
g) Enforce House Rules;

Tough and thanks less job, often get accuse of mis-appropriation and when vendor selected seems to be by your friend/relative ... even if they are good and fairly priced. 

get ready for politic/gangster/favouritism/
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Even if the committee were doing their job well and no corruption involve, well there is among resident will 'cucuk' with false story and claim the committee are bad and not doing their job well.

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post Dec 19 2013, 12:30 PM

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interesting topic.
perhaps it is a wise choice after all for government to impose only qualified property managers to maintain buildings.
and let the property managers answer to the board.
at least get reputable property managers and you would safeguard 50% of the problems already.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 19 2013, 12:30 PM)
interesting topic.
perhaps it is a wise choice after all for government to impose only qualified property managers to maintain buildings.
and let the property managers answer to the board.
at least get reputable property managers and you would safeguard 50% of the problems already.
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Based on my knowing,
there are not enough qualified and professional property managers around for so many highrise building around.

I involved in JMB/MC before, the cost of employ a professional building management, aka they supply a onsite manager, clerk + handyman, come at a cost of around 9K-11k.

Even employ the property manager, JMB/MC still need to take in charge of many issues as well.
Just those daily and routine job may be be well taken of.

JMB/MC still need to be actively involved to ensure the building is well taken of, financially being well controlled etc.
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:28 PM

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The best way is to employed a management company to take over daily jobs instead of JMC/MC,The Committee rules is to monitoring and decision maker.

Many mid or low cost condo/apt get to zero reserve fund problems are due to committees want to cut cost and kick off management company ,they themselves involved in daily jobs by hiring clerks to make the daily collections and supplies payment.
But corruption happened or miss use public funds...left out a lots shits ,they sold out their units..

Bye bye chaos!
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 19 2013, 12:30 PM)
interesting topic.
perhaps it is a wise choice after all for government to impose only qualified property managers to maintain buildings.
and let the property managers answer to the board.
at least get reputable property managers and you would safeguard 50% of the problems already.
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Not 100% correct ...you mean reputation property management company also not guarantee.


KJ was wellknow before but they send rubbish ppl to handle your condo and charge you higher rate..

Three of my condo already kicked them off last year after so many times warning issued.

Your guys must beware of KJ. Their service standard getting poorer after the founders sold out their stakes ..
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:38 PM

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from the accounts, i see the highest cost item is staff salary and allowances at about RM230k

seems a lot to me
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post Dec 19 2013, 02:55 PM

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My condo site is paying $5000 management fees +
20K staffs salaries/allowance fixed...any OT fees incurred were bear by the company.

My condo has 7 blocks with 16 floors..Total units is 902. 10 years old.

The management company give us 2 floor desk clerk + 2 executies[account + admin] + 3 handymans + 1 technician + manager.
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post Dec 19 2013, 03:37 PM

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JMB or JMC is like do charity. You do it, and yet alot of other residents take it for granted. In this world, we cannot make everyone satisfy, just do your best. And becoming a JMB committee is for the good of your own living place. Make it better so that you can live in peace. smile.gif
Salute all committees of JMB!!! rclxms.gif

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