Up firing atmos is totally useless

u can try out some upfiring speaker for atmos.. its impossible but difficult. Go to CMY at sunway look for steve. Seek for his advice.. The last show room he had in 1U is using upfiring atmost speaker that reflect from ceiling.

it you plan to do it at home of cos you need to check hows ur ceiling being designed and if the reflection can be done easily without much distortion..same concept applies for sound bar.. complicated engineering..

the best is to do direct mount on ceiling.

atmos do not have height speaker (mount on wall not ceiling on top of your head) but dts x they have height speakers

if you want to do upfiring then you need to place it on top of your front speaker (LR) for 5.1.2 setup.

If you want to place it on the ceiling you can place it on ceiling of where your king seat is.


could be an distortion if reflection point on the coverage of the ceiling fan blade.. need to do trial and error..

there's 1 more thing you can do if you r desperated.. get an extension up and hold ur ceiling speaker on the arm.. sort like a lamp extension..

btw which avr r u using? does it support for atmos? have u check on it?

something like this


just some idea 

i dont think x1600h is atmos compatible.. even x2600h would required external amp for this purpose.

you might wanna increase ur budget to get at least x3500h if you prefer denon.

Also consider you are increasing your setup from 5.1 to 5.1.2 extra amplication will be required from the avr. If you upgrade to something similar like your existing you wont be playing at the same volume. Performance will drop.

i m using x2000 myself and yet to upgrade considering the cost vs the performance of having 2 extra speaker on the ceiling

The easiest way not to cut holes in your ceiling is to just do on-walls, high up. It's about as easy as it gets, drill 4 holes - put a bracket, install your speaker - pull your wire.

Example:



It's leagues better than the silly upfiring method, doesn't cost too much to do and can be done in an hour or so. Clean up is also minimal.

you can check the spec sheet. its marked as -/- for dobly atmos/dts:x

It says Height Virtualization.. its using height channel to virtualized.. better to double check and understand this. I got this from the review
The 7.2 channels can be appropriated in a 5.2.2 configuration for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X formats, but for those without the extra height speakers, there is DTS Virtual:X onboard for the up-mixing of DTS soundtracks – to give the sense of height. Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology, which essentially attempts to do the same with Dolby soundtracks, is promised via a future firmware update.

linkWhatHifi
Its like 4k resolution but upscale from FullHD. Its not true 4k.
by right yes. but these avr doesnt work this way. Read the statement from the page.
Upgrade your home theater with the Denon AVR-X1600H. With 80W per channel (8 ohms, 20Hz-20kHz, .08%, 2 ch driven), this performance-tuned Denon AV receiver provides a truly immersive 3D audio experience. Supports Dolby Atmos®, Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology, DTS:X™ and DTS Virtual:X. Watch your TV or projector video content with the best possible picture thanks to the latest 4K video technologies like Dolby Vision™, HDR10 and HLG.
80W per channel 2 ch driven (8 ohms). If you only have 2 channel u can get the throughput of 80w per channel. If you connect 5 channel then you will not get 80W maybe 60W... if you connect 7 channel maybe you get 40W only. But of course Denon work smarter by giving power to demanding channel as priority. But in short, your power is being divided out.

The best for Atmos is at least X3500 for denon. At least more headroom for your 5.1.2/7.1.

This is important if you r running your setup in a large area/room. If you have small room then you have no issue. If you already running 70db with your 5.1 setup you may need to run 80db when u setup for 7.1/5.1.2

you can check the spec sheet. its marked as -/- for dobly atmos/dts:x

It says Height Virtualization.. its using height channel to virtualized.. better to double check and understand this. I got this from the review
The 7.2 channels can be appropriated in a 5.2.2 configuration for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X formats, but for those without the extra height speakers, there is DTS Virtual:X onboard for the up-mixing of DTS soundtracks – to give the sense of height. Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology, which essentially attempts to do the same with Dolby soundtracks, is promised via a future firmware update.

linkWhatHifi
Its like 4k resolution but upscale from FullHD. Its not true 4k.
by right yes. but these avr doesnt work this way. Read the statement from the page.
Upgrade your home theater with the Denon AVR-X1600H. With 80W per channel (8 ohms, 20Hz-20kHz, .08%, 2 ch driven), this performance-tuned Denon AV receiver provides a truly immersive 3D audio experience. Supports Dolby Atmos®, Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology, DTS:X™ and DTS Virtual:X. Watch your TV or projector video content with the best possible picture thanks to the latest 4K video technologies like Dolby Vision™, HDR10 and HLG.
80W per channel 2 ch driven (8 ohms). If you only have 2 channel u can get the throughput of 80w per channel. If you connect 5 channel then you will not get 80W maybe 60W... if you connect 7 channel maybe you get 40W only. But of course Denon work smarter by giving power to demanding channel as priority. But in short, your power is being divided out.

The best for Atmos is at least X3500 for denon. At least more headroom for your 5.1.2/7.1.

This is important if you r running your setup in a large area/room. If you have small room then you have no issue. If you already running 70db with your 5.1 setup you may need to run 80db when u setup for 7.1/5.1.2

That's not my setup, just an example that I found for the Prime Elevations.
It doesn't really... work that way? The speakers dictates how a movie (or anything really) sounds like for the vast majority of what you hear. The receiver (and amp) doesn't quite "add" or "alter" that sound quality. It's a bit more complex than that. Different room EQ (in this example Audyssey vs YPAO for Denon vs Yamaha) will work differently in different rooms, which is one of the most important things in home audio. So just with that alone (along with several other variables like the amp section in receivers) already discredit a comparison between receivers.

So to just compare Denon vs Yamaha, which is better for movie... you can't compare it that way in a apples-vs-apples comparison.

You choose a receiver based on the features you want and how deep your pockets are. Not how they "sound".

I will recommend Yamaha

Immerse yourself in multi-dimensional audio with Dolby Atmos. Set up Dolby Atmos with a 5.2.2 surround sound speaker system using Dolby Atmos elevation speakers, or dedicated overhead speakers, for the ultimate home theater experience. Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization provides immersive audio without height channels, creating virtual height effects in a 7.2, 5.2 or 2.2 speaker arrangement.

yea i could be wrong.. it says 5.2.2. So should not be any prob.

Every receiver has its own sound signature and hardware. You need to listen and you will notice the different

The easiest way not to cut holes in your ceiling is to just do on-walls, high up. It's about as easy as it gets, drill 4 holes - put a bracket, install your speaker - pull your wire.

Example:



It's leagues better than the silly upfiring method, doesn't cost too much to do and can be done in an hour or so. Clean up is also minimal.

You set it to front height.

No it won’t

some minor feature differences and sound also different... some are more sharp some are more warm..

Yes.

It's literally in the manual:


All 3 setups; front height L/R, top front L/R, and top middle L/R will be able to playback Atmos/DTSX effects as long as the source is encoded with Atmos/DTSX.

no rear speaker bro? 2.0.2 setup for now?

What’s your view on both Klipsch, do you like it and enjoy the movie with them?

How’s the Atmos, is it really a game changer?

Great, will definitely audition Klipsch vs Elac. Unfortunately i dont have in ceiling option, only top of tower/bookshelf option.

Thanks for the feedback.
It Will be really tough for me to setup front height.
I wish there will be shop which i can buy up firing, test it at home and return it for full refund or exchange if it’s bad.
Like u said, it’ll be pointless to audition it at the shop because the variable will be different.

No matter what, speaker position is still important