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herojack41
post Apr 19 2016, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(jinxiang @ Apr 17 2016, 07:26 PM)
Hi all sifu's,

Need your guidance. I'm setting up a new home theatre room in my new house. Plan to setup for 7.1 speakers system. The room size is 20ft (L) x 9.5ft (W) x 9ft (H).

I have an existing AVR ONKYO TX-NR616 which is 7.2 ready

What is your recommendation if I allow a budget of 3k-5k for whole new set of speakers and sub-woofer?

Any shops to recommend too? KL/Selangor area.

Thanks in advance!
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well......speaker im not sure

but for woofer...go big or go home

go for EARTHQUAKE MiniMe P12

Desa home theather @ Kepong

QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 18 2016, 10:23 AM)
You can go amcorp mall to shop around
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and prepare to get slaughter
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post Apr 19 2016, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(jinxiang @ Apr 19 2016, 07:11 PM)
"and prepare to get slaughtered".....well said man! This is exactly what I feel when I step into those hi-fi shops.....all the speakers brands with strange names, no market rates to compare with, suspicious wiring to confuse you which speakers actually produce the sounds, etc, etc.....sigh!

Anyone can share their experience if it is worth exploring getting the speakers from Amazon or even Taobao? Singapore shops any cheaper? Worth the effort?
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to avoid getting slaughter and hassle free....Desa HT @ kepong is your best choice

also they will entertain you if you wanted to test any particular brand speakers
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post Jul 3 2016, 07:55 PM

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3way floor standing speakers have big difference compare to 2way ? hmm.gif

looking for floor standing upgrade.
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post Aug 27 2016, 01:50 AM

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guys...wonder how many hertz frequency u guys set for center speaker
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post Aug 27 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 27 2016, 07:00 AM)
What you mean ?
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post Aug 27 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 27 2016, 11:20 AM)
Standard THX is 80. It depend on your speaker spec and sub to adjust accordingly
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yup...80hz is THX standard but my speaker arent THX certified laugh.gif

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 27 2016, 01:04 PM)
typically, +40Hz the value mentioned in the spec sheet. if it says 40Hz-20KHz, set XO to 80Hz.
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i see...currently mine is set @ 120hz

coz i also not sure what is the spec sheet of this old klipsch speaker

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 27 2016, 01:33 PM)
THX recommends 80hz, but that's just a guideline. There is no set standard.

1 octave above the lowest rated (-3db) frequency point listed on the speaker is usually what I go by.
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er....too technical. lol tak faham
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post Sep 6 2016, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 6 2016, 12:47 PM)
i suspek something stuck in headphone jack. which causing the speaker relay cut off randomly.

boss tell me to spray contact cleaner. inside dust accumulate after years
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lulz...

i dont see any need for that.....

i think u hv damaged the output jack

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post Sep 6 2016, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 6 2016, 01:15 PM)
not sure what the previous owner did becos warranty seal intact.
gonna try anyway before send to wkh repair
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us vacuum ...vacuum the hell out of it

if it still jumping the relay....it would mean changing either the port or relay
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post Oct 1 2016, 12:04 AM

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ah...we are into acoustic treatment

did mine several years back....yeah is a shady DIY job that consist of normal pyramid foam sticked to wood board i call it "not chipboard" and mount it on the wall by few screw. plus getting a big floormat covered the whole marble.

result.....yeah not really up to what i expect to got out of it but there is improvement from a bald room with brick wall + marble floor.

total cost of doing it cost under rm500.

im not sure the floor mat thickness affects or no...coz mine are pretty thin type of floor mat

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post Dec 7 2016, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Dec 6 2016, 08:45 PM)
Hehe... when you said earlier "...share their experience whether there's any difference on sq & pq?" and then you wrote about 4K without saying anything about BD ISO, then this caused the confusion. Anyway, no problem.

Bluray ISO is a one-to-one 100% image copy of the actual bluray disc without any loss of data. Playing the BD ISO has no difference compared to playing than the actual bluray disc itself because the data read by the player is exactly the same.... BUT.... yes, there is a BUT here... somehow there is some difference for me... there are people who can hear the "subtle" difference and there are those that hears no difference! Why do I say that ?

In my personal opinion, eventhough BD ISO has the same data, playing the actual bluray disc sounds better !! Here are the possible reasons that I believe can cause such difference...

1) The longer the path from source played (bluray) to reach the AVR and TV, the more chance there will be that "interference" can interfere with the signal such as EMI. The BD ISO has to be stored in a harddisk which do have moving magnetic discs spinning by an internal motor which can cause interference... and then the USB cable to the player which can also be a problem too. Using a SSD harddisk with any motor will help. The player using laser light to read directly from the disc has the shortest path.

2) When additional hardware is used such as NAS Network Enclosure, Ethernet and WiFi Network is used to "stream" to the player, then quality should also be affected.

3) The desktop computer is BIG source of all sorts of "noise" so if a HTPC is used to play the BD ISO, then quality will also suffer!

4) When additional AC/DC Power Adapter is used, it can also cause interference too. Example... adapters for harddisk dock, External NAS Harddisk, NAS Enclosure, WiFi Router etc.

Knowing this, that is why there are people who uses Notebook SSD (Solid-State) harddisk, good quality USB cable, Low-Noise Power Adapter and so forth. I did all this BUT because the signal path (highway) is longer, I somehow still prefer playing the actual bluray disc. Its NOT because of any "lower quality" from the Bluray ISO itself.

Retouched And Remuxed Bluray
This is where the quality CAN suffer when the actual bluray disc data is changed!

A BD50 bluray disc can store a maximum of around 50GB. It doesn't mean that a movie used 50GB. If a movie is originally encoded to 23GB, then a BD25 disc is used so ripping this to 23GB ISO will have the same quality. But... if a movie used 43GB and it is ripped to a 23GB ISO or duplicated to another BD25 disc, then the quality will drop.

A remuxed bluray can mean these things...
(1) When the disc is ripped, all the bluray menus and all "Special Features" and Trailers are removed so that the bluray ISO (BDMV Folder) plays the movie instantly. If they did NOT touch anything to the actual bluray movie file, then the quality will be the same. Whenever the bitrate or filesize is reduced, then quality will drop.

(2) The bluray can be remuxed to a single file such as MKV, MP4, TS, etc. Again, if nothing is touched and transfered to the single file, then quality will be the same BUT most of the time there is shrinking done which also reduces quality. Examples... 35GB bluray remuxed to to 10GB MKV, DTS-HD MA becomes DTS, Video bitrate reduced.

The most important factor whether the "duplicate" has the same quality as the original is actually knowing whether its an "untouched" copy or any "touching" have been done to it. Whether quality will be the same depends on whether anything have be touched on the original... not about ISO itself.
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well it depends on what transmission protocol it use

UDP or TCP

if TCP is used....there will be no drop of "quality" like you say.
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post Dec 26 2016, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Dec 20 2016, 11:29 PM)
You afraid the Smart Apps still running behind when you watch TV? I think any Smart Apps should be automatically stopped and exit when go back to watching normal programs from HDMI. My previous 40 inch Samsung Smart TV bought in 2012 is still running perfectly after giving it to my sis.

Whether Smart Apps is running behind or not, it may affect the life span... same as other "features" added into the TV. When more and more "features" (Smart Hub, Bluetooth and WiFi) are added in ... sure I suspect that the lifespan for the TV should be shorter than those "basic" TV without those "features". Just like putting your AVR on standby, not totally switch off power... I think it may affect lifespan only a little bit.

I think what can affect more on lifespan is the heat build-up in the TV and wear and tear from the internal components using electricity. I think Smart App affect a little bit only loh.

If still worried about TV lifespan, here is what you can do...
Just disconnect your TV (WiFi or LAN cable) from the internet. Switch OFF Apps "auto Updates" so that your TV do not regularly try to search for internet updates. Also disconnect any Bluetooth devices to your TV. Pull out any USB flashdrive or mouse or keyboard from your TV, don't leave it "sticking" on your TV. Use a pair of cheapo external Active Type speakers to connect to TV earphone jack... this will reduce wear and tear to your TV internal speakers... and if better quality speakers are used, can also improve audio quality too. If your TV got Optical Out, you can also use this to connect to your AVR... doesn't mean you always use AVR for the TV audio.

I believe you have adjusted your TV contrast, brightness and backlight settings which will help to improve screen lifespan. New TVs are ALWAYS set to 100% for contrast and backlight set too high. Hehe... some of my friends don't know this.

If your TV got "Auto Start Smart Hub" for Home Screen, set it to OFF so that Smart Hub do NOT open (start) when TV is switched on.

Well... what I have mentioned here... I believe you already know... so I believe that should be all that we can do!

Lifespan too long also no good. As they say... "lama tak pergi, mana ada yang baru? Baru tak mari, mana dapat gadget terkini?"... Duit dicari, perlu diguna!
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eh....im not trolling

but you seriously need to go back and use CRT TV.

so paranoid.

all this lifespan thing were developed/assume by you, if a electrical product you use way over the warranty period thats a bonus.
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QUOTE(doggmeister @ Jun 16 2018, 03:16 PM)
What about the jamo 626 set?
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Jamo is somewhat budget range you can get in "DIY" style.

is not a bad starts.....slowly you will move up the food chain brows.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 25 2020, 09:20 PM)
both same gen. do u affraid hdmi repair.
can skip old onkyo whenever possible
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Oct 26 2020, 04:12 PM)
Avoid Onkyo, is always hardware issue.
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been using 3 generation of onkyo.

never had any issue. i think the main reason of HDMI board spoil it might due to ventilation on the backend.

what i did was putting a 120mm fan on top of it and suck out the air.

that explain the longevity im having with it

 

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