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post Jun 1 2016, 06:31 PM

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Generally all speaker should be place as near to ear level as possible. For centre speaker is about to leave it on the console and tilt up a little.
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post Jun 1 2016, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(the s.crib @ Jun 1 2016, 05:21 PM)
Hi there,

I would just like to enquire a little about best sound quality positioning of a home theater system. I have bought a Bose System Home Theater System and would like to try to install it myself. I would just like to ask you guys about some acoustic qualities of a basic installation setup.

Perhaps a little background. The space comprises of a length between the back wall and front wall of about 13 feet. This is a living room hence, the 2 sides are not specifically covered. I plan to install the speakers on these front and back walls. The sofa will be placed 10 feet from the front and the sitting position around 2 feet from the ground.

My plan is to install 2 side speakers and the centre speakers on the front wall flanking a 65 inch TV. How far and how high should these front speakers be (if taking the centre point of the TV as reference)? For the height, should it be the height of the person seated or can I place it on the TV console which is approximately 30cm off the ground?

As for the back speakers, they will be approximately 3 feet from the sofa. I would like to mount it on the wall at around 10 ft height. Will this be optimal or would it be better if it was at the same height as the front speakers.

Should I also mount the centre speakers or should I just leave it on the console which is 30cm off ground?

Any advise is appreciated.

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Ideally, the main LCR's tweeters should be ear height when sitted at the main listening position (MLP). But for the majority of users anchoring the center channel at the middle of the screen is usually not possible, unless you go with an acoustically transparent screen + projector setup.

So then in your conditions, what to do? Place the L/R satellites (I assume they are satellites since you said Bose HT system) at around ear height. You don't need to be EXACTLY ear height, so a few inches higher is fine and could give you a slightly more airy soundstage with minimal impact on imaging. This is for HT though, for music you want the tweeters to be near exact ear height.

As for the center channel, you can place it on the console but you'll want to tilt it up towards the ear height. However you want it to be as close to ear height as possible, otherwise dialogue clarity will suffer especially with the small satellites of the Bose which do not have a wide enough dispersion. If you want to mount the center channel, you can do it by mounting it above the display and have it tilt down towards your MLP.

The rear channels then, the optimal placement would be to flank the left and right side of the couch, about 1.5-2ft above ear height. If you cannot do side surround and have to result to using the back wall, then do the same thing; mount them 1.5 - 2ft above ear height. Do not toe-inwards but instead point them straight ahead.

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post Jun 1 2016, 07:06 PM

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Front speakers - place the tweeter at ear level when you are seated at your throne. Normally problem with the centre speaker as it will block the screen from your view if placed at that height. And yes, you can place it lower and tilt up the front baffle towards you, unless you have an old centre speaker like me with the front baffle sloping upwards (or downwards if placed above the screen the other way round). Mine is Castle Keep.

Surround speakers - normally place the tweeter at 2 feet above ear level. This is ambiguous because we should also consider how far away the speakers are.

Search the web for speaker placement guides, there are plenty.
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post Jun 2 2016, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 1 2016, 03:32 PM)
first seen atmos enabled reflect setup rclxms.gif
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tq bro...now change atmos speaker to place on the front speaker...more atmos feeling...heheAttached Image
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post Jun 2 2016, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(gme @ Jun 2 2016, 07:15 AM)
tq bro...now change atmos speaker to place on the front speaker...more atmos feeling...heheAttached Image
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You must try in ceiling.
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post Jun 2 2016, 01:46 PM

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Hi guys,

Many thanks for the guidance. I think I roughly know what to do already and will try it out. After hacking and installing that is. Again much appreciated on the technical assistance.

A side question..... I also have an old Pioneer amplifier which is part of a Pioneer home theater. The speakers are fine but the amp is not working. I think something fused or maybe the capacitor burned. I stay ard PJ area and am finding it hard to locate a shop that helps repair. Mostly will say pls throw and buy new ones. However, I tot it will be a waste if it was just a fuse that burned.

Could any one point out a HIFI repair shop that I can visit?

Again, many thanks!
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post Jun 9 2016, 05:27 PM

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Hi,

I'm trying to add a pair of speakers for a second zone (kitchen/up stairs hall) and I'm looking for some wires.

a) The distance is at least 15m.
b) Can drive 6 ohm floor stand / bookshelf speakers.
c) White in color to blend with the walls and floors.
d) Budget up to RM10/meter.

Can someone recommend what and where to buy some proper wires
1) What size of wires I need?
2) Where can I buy them in Klang Valley or on-line?

I would have bought those common wires sold in electrical shops if not for the crazy green/pink/silver colors that they use.

Thanks.
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post Jun 9 2016, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(teop @ Jun 9 2016, 05:27 PM)
Hi,

I'm trying to add a pair of speakers for a second zone (kitchen/up stairs hall) and I'm looking for some wires.

a) The distance is at least 15m.
b) Can drive 6 ohm floor stand / bookshelf speakers.
c) White in color to blend with the walls and floors.
d) Budget up to RM10/meter.

Can someone recommend what and where to buy some proper wires
1) What size of wires I need?
2) Where can I buy them in Klang Valley or on-line?

I would have bought those common wires sold in electrical shops if not for the crazy green/pink/silver colors that they use.

Thanks.
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1) 12 gauge cables at least, 10 gauge if you can.
2) Not sure, I usually buy my cables from monoprice. Try some hifi shops I guess? Just don't get snake oiled into those RM1k per meter cables lol.
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post Jun 9 2016, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(teop @ Jun 9 2016, 05:27 PM)
Hi,

I'm trying to add a pair of speakers for a second zone (kitchen/up stairs hall) and I'm looking for some wires.

a) The distance is at least 15m.
b) Can drive 6 ohm floor stand / bookshelf speakers.
c) White in color to blend with the walls and floors.
d) Budget up to RM10/meter.

Can someone recommend what and where to buy some proper wires
1) What size of wires I need?
2) Where can I buy them in Klang Valley or on-line?

I would have bought those common wires sold in electrical shops if not for the crazy green/pink/silver colors that they use.

Thanks.
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Go acoustic system at amcorp. Ask for oxygen cable
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post Jun 9 2016, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 9 2016, 06:49 PM)
Go acoustic system at amcorp. Ask for oxygen cable
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The British name but Malaysian made right? Pasar road at Pudu sells this also.
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post Jun 9 2016, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 9 2016, 08:55 PM)
The British name but Malaysian made right? Pasar road at Pudu sells this also.
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Nope. Is total British.
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post Jun 9 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(teop @ Jun 9 2016, 05:27 PM)
Hi,

I'm trying to add a pair of speakers for a second zone (kitchen/up stairs hall) and I'm looking for some wires.

a) The distance is at least 15m.
b) Can drive 6 ohm floor stand / bookshelf speakers.
c) White in color to blend with the walls and floors.
d) Budget up to RM10/meter.

Can someone recommend what and where to buy some proper wires
1) What size of wires I need?
2) Where can I buy them in Klang Valley or on-line?

I would have bought those common wires sold in electrical shops if not for the crazy green/pink/silver colors that they use.

Thanks.
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You can try QED Profile 42 Strand entry level speaker cable that comes in white colour. Price is RM9/m, when I checked at CMY last December.
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post Jun 15 2016, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(SerpentS @ Jun 15 2016, 01:30 AM)
nice atmos setup..  thumbup.gif
what marantz model av receiver?
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tq bro...Marantz sr6010
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post Jun 16 2016, 09:01 PM

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Setting up Dali Zensor system. As for front speaker, is that worth to take Zensor 7 over Zensor 1 where the price is 3 times higher mostly on action movie? What's the benefit of floorstand over Book shelf?

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post Jun 16 2016, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 16 2016, 09:01 PM)
Setting up Dali Zensor system. As for front speaker, is that worth to take Zensor 7 over Zensor 1 where the price is 3 times higher mostly on action movie? What's the benefit of floorstand over Book shelf?
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The the high and lower range is much more than bookshelf. Of course for movies is always advisable for floor stander
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 16 2016, 09:01 PM)
Setting up Dali Zensor system. As for front speaker, is that worth to take Zensor 7 over Zensor 1 where the price is 3 times higher mostly on action movie? What's the benefit of floorstand over Book shelf?
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Once you go floorstander...you won't go back biggrin.gif

A lot of difference bro
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post Jun 17 2016, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 16 2016, 09:06 PM)
The the high and lower range is much more than bookshelf. Of course for movies is always advisable for floor stander
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Is the sound significant different for floorstand over bookshelf? Thinking of save the extra 2k++ for a good sub
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post Jun 17 2016, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 17 2016, 07:51 AM)
Is the sound significant different for floorstand over bookshelf? Thinking of save the extra 2k++ for a good sub
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Definitely having a sub is important but that might not compensate everything a floorstander can cover. It also comes down to the speaker itself on how high / low it can go.
This is to ensure no missing freq. The source of the audio is also very important. As personally I had experience before because of a good source and is really very consistent.
Last year, I happen to have a pair of Q-acoustic bookshelf in my house which belong to a friend. I had used it for HT for testing. All movies tested are BD. Player is Oppo 103D
with Yamaha A3050 AVR. Now few movies tested for TrueHD, DTS-MA and atmos. No DTS X that time to test. For TrueHD and DTS-MA with bookshelf is just so-so. I had a SVS
sub on all movies during the test. With my floorstander (B&W CM8) the sound is much fuller. Now, finally tested movie with atmos. I will expect it to be the same result but to
my surprise the bookshelf perform as good as my floorstander this time around. If I will to do a blind test, I cannot tell the difference at all. So is best for you to try out yourself
to make the conclusion.
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QUOTE(OPT @ Jun 17 2016, 07:50 AM)
Once you go floorstander...you won't go back  biggrin.gif

A lot of difference bro
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 17 2016, 09:38 AM)
Definitely having a sub is important but that might not compensate everything a floorstander can cover. It also comes down to the speaker itself on how high / low it can go.
This is to ensure no missing freq. The source of the audio is also very important. As personally I had experience before because of a good source and is really very consistent.
Last year, I happen to have a pair of Q-acoustic bookshelf in my house which belong to a friend. I had used it for HT for testing. All movies tested are BD. Player is  Oppo 103D
with Yamaha A3050 AVR. Now few movies tested for TrueHD, DTS-MA and atmos. No DTS X that time to test. For TrueHD and DTS-MA with bookshelf is just so-so. I had a SVS
sub on all movies during the test. With my floorstander (B&W CM8) the sound is much fuller. Now, finally tested movie with atmos. I will expect it to be the same result but to
my surprise the bookshelf perform as good as my floorstander this time around. If I will to do a blind test, I cannot tell the difference at all. So is best for you to try out yourself
to make the conclusion.
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Yeah, I'll drop by the audio shop for an audience before make the conclusion. Anyway thanks for the advice smile.gif
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post Jun 17 2016, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 17 2016, 09:58 AM)
Yeah, I'll drop by the audio shop for an audience before make the conclusion. Anyway thanks for the advice smile.gif
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