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post Apr 8 2017, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Apr 8 2017, 09:12 PM)
Yes, from the same A24i roll as shown in the previous picture which was taken in my place. The seller brought the cable roll when he came to install my Atmos Speakers.

I was told it is Gauge 14.

Size (including insulation) = around 4mm X 4mm for single polarity. +ve and -ve is 8mm X 4mm

Since my Atmos speakers (hung above in front) are not more than 20 feet (6.1 metres), AWG 20 would already be enough for my Atmos speaker (rated at nominal 6 ohms)... this Oxygen AWG 14 cable thickness is more than enough for me. Hehe... maybe too thick for me but no problem since its around RM10 per metre, not expensive loh.

More info about speaker (wire) gauges...

http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article/live_s...s_300/2521/7034

https://www.tedpella.com/company_html/wire-gauge-vs-dia.htm
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Thanks for the info bro. Those atmos speakers are Elac reflective ones? Shouldn't they be on top of the main speakers? How is your atmos experience? Is there a big difference over 5.1/7.1?
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post Apr 8 2017, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 8 2017, 09:49 PM)
Thanks for the info bro. Those atmos speakers are Elac reflective ones? Shouldn't they be on top of the main speakers? How is your atmos experience? Is there a big difference over 5.1/7.1?
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It's all about angles.

You can use "up-firing" speakers as if they were height presence speakers to create Atmos/DTS:X effects. In-ceiling speakers are still the best way for height effects, as long as they are mounted properly.
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post Apr 8 2017, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 8 2017, 11:03 PM)
It's all about angles.

You can use "up-firing" speakers as if they were height presence speakers to create Atmos/DTS:X effects. In-ceiling speakers are still the best way for height effects, as long as they are mounted properly.
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You mean it will be angled to still be bounced back via the ceiling?
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post Apr 9 2017, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 8 2017, 11:27 PM)
You mean it will be angled to still be bounced back via the ceiling?
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No, what matters is where the speaker is placed and then angled towards the listener.

James has his height speakers in the front height presence location. You can use any speakers as height presence.
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post Apr 9 2017, 07:09 AM

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I have 7.1.2 speaker set but mixer of 8ohm n 6ohm spk so at avr output what should i select, at 8ohm or 6ohm.tq
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post Apr 9 2017, 09:43 AM

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I think is 18 gauge
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post Apr 9 2017, 10:59 AM

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Can I actually use an avr to drive the additional 2 channels instead of using an external amp like pre-amp or power amp bcos like A3060 or SR7011 supports 11.2 ch but will need an external amp to drive it. I was told it is okay do so but not advisable...
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post Apr 9 2017, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 7 2017, 09:01 PM)
This, +100000000:
How many times have you seen people with $10,000 speakers, $15000 amps, $5000 speaker cables/power chords but have next to no room treatment? Plenty, I tell you. doh.gif

Yes I'm exaggerating the money point, but seriously... instead of all that thousands of dollars spent on pointless power cables, use 1% of that and go get some diffusers/foams/treatments instead. Instant difference instead of trying to psycho yourself to hear a difference.
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110% agreed..i've spent more on acoustic treatments than cables,it makes huge improvement..

My method:

Speakers and subs - 50%
Pj and screen - 20%
Avr/amplifier/bd player - 20%
Room treatment - 8 %
Cables and else i - 2 %
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post Apr 9 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Apr 8 2017, 03:35 PM)
There are sooo many materials to read regarding to "expensive vs cheapo" cables such as power cords, speakers cables, digital and analogue cables, etc, etc. My personal belief... Its a time immemorial ongoing debate ever since the word HiFi was invented.

Whichever is your camp, right or wrong... please try NOT to use profanity here. I want the kids to learn about the word "profanity" and how to avoid it but not on how to use them. I am sure people here don't use profanity, am I correct?  sweat.gif I don't take any offense but its not necessary and needless in making any statement or opinion.

Here are 2 articles about speaker cables for people to "argue on" !! Oops.. sorry... "argue on" are the wrong words... "think about" would be more appropriate.

https://www.lifewire.com/speaker-cable-differences-3134603

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news...e-of-money.html

http://machinedesign.com/blog/5-myths-about-speaker-wire

Regards.

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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif i like this quote,"Me, personally? I’d buy some decent, affordable cables and spend the rest on music. That’s the whole point, after all. "
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post Apr 9 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Apr 8 2017, 09:49 PM)
Thanks for the info bro. Those atmos speakers are Elac reflective ones? Shouldn't they be on top of the main speakers? How is your atmos experience? Is there a big difference over 5.1/7.1?
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Once you have atmos ceiling, you will really get addicted to it
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post Apr 9 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 9 2017, 10:59 AM)
Can I actually use an avr to drive the additional 2 channels instead of using an external amp like pre-amp or power amp bcos like A3060 or SR7011 supports 11.2 ch but will need an external amp to drive it. I was told it is okay do so but not advisable...
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For Yamaha is not possible. For marantz I am not sure
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post Apr 9 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 9 2017, 12:25 PM)
For Yamaha is not possible. For marantz I am not sure
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A guy from Home Theatre enthusiast shown me his setup which are using 2 Yammy avr for this... he told me yammy comes with a feature that supports this function with using only 1 remote but I dunno how true it is? Rxa3060 connected with Rxv671 for 7.2.4 setup...

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post Apr 9 2017, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 9 2017, 12:36 PM)
A guy from Home Theatre enthusiast shown me his setup which are using 2 Yammy avr for this... he told me yammy comes with a feature that supports this function with using only 1 remote but I dunno how true it is?  Rxa3060 connected with Rxv671 for 7.2.4 setup...
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just use the 3060 control.
671 in direct mode = same as basic spk amp
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Apr 9 2017, 07:09 AM)
I have 7.1.2 speaker set but mixer of 8ohm n 6ohm spk so at avr output what should i select, at 8ohm or 6ohm.tq
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DON'T TOUCH THE OHM SELECTOR SWITCH. Stay away from it, pretend that it doesn't even exist!

Why? Because by setting your AVR to 6ohms, you would have effectively cut down on its power/current supply simply so it can dip to 6ohms and not overheat. You are basically crippling your AVR.


QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 9 2017, 10:59 AM)
Can I actually use an avr to drive the additional 2 channels instead of using an external amp like pre-amp or power amp bcos like A3060 or SR7011 supports 11.2 ch but will need an external amp to drive it. I was told it is okay do so but not advisable...
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If it's only 2 channels, then basically almost any receiver can be used as an extended amp. Just use the auxiliary RCA input if it doesn't have a dedicated multi channel in.

Make sure to level match and set the receiver to direct mode.

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 9 2017, 12:36 PM)
A guy from Home Theatre enthusiast shown me his setup which are using 2 Yammy avr for this... he told me yammy comes with a feature that supports this function with using only 1 remote but I dunno how true it is?  Rxa3060 connected with Rxv671 for 7.2.4 setup...

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With 2 AVR than yes it will work for 7.2.4 but if only 1 AVR than cannot do 7.2.4
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 9 2017, 01:47 PM)
DON'T TOUCH THE OHM SELECTOR SWITCH. Stay away from it, pretend that it doesn't even exist!

Why? Because by setting your AVR to 6ohms, you would have effectively cut down on its power/current supply simply so it can dip to 6ohms and not overheat. You are basically crippling your AVR.
If it's only 2 channels, then basically almost any receiver can be used as an extended amp. Just use the auxiliary RCA input if it doesn't have a dedicated multi channel in.

Make sure to level match and set the receiver to direct mode.
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I see, thanks for info there...


QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 9 2017, 01:52 PM)
With 2 AVR than yes it will work for 7.2.4 but if only 1 AVR than cannot do 7.2.4
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Yeah, that's what I mean 2 avrs instead of avr + pre/power amp.

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 9 2017, 01:26 PM)
just use the 3060 control.
671 in direct mode = same as basic spk amp
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I see, thanks for info...

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post Apr 9 2017, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ Apr 7 2017, 11:46 AM)
Mind sharing why can't trust Audio Art?
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Daam audio art i think they sell x7200wa i think price will good


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post Apr 10 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 9 2017, 02:01 AM)
No, what matters is where the speaker is placed and then angled towards the listener.

James has his height speakers in the front height presence location. You can use any speakers as height presence.
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Ok got it. Thanks smile.gif

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