Pls share later

Because of other commitments, not sure yet whether to go or not. Not interested in the BenQ DLP 4K Projector. Actually launching the projector as the main show... the UDP-203 is added just as an added attraction to showcase 4K bluray.

Oppo UDP-203
Spoke to the boss, John Yew, the UDP-203 will be selling at RM 3099. He was lent a Demo unit only. No stock yet for the UDP-203 and only a limited number of units for Malaysia and many countries. He said can pre-order for the first batch that will arrive later. At the present time, no news of arrival date yet. I am only interested in the future UDP-205D which may (or may not) be released around the end of 2017. Only guessing its named as UDP-205D.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Dec 14 2016, 10:59 PM

I thought UDP-205 should come 1st before UDP-205D?
Btw, I read that Oppo player will output MLP 7.1 instead of bitstream TrueHD/atmos or DTSMA/DTSX when playing MKV file from HDD or NAS but no issue if playing bluray disc. Is that true?

That is just depend on setting.

Nice, hope the UDP-203 can handle MKV file and bitstream TrueHD/Atmos and DTSMA/DTSX from HDD and NAS without issue

I will think oppo are pretty good in handling media files

Yeah, anyone visited CMY UDP-203 launching today?

Didn't get the chance to as was busy with other business matters. Dang it.

Didn't plan to. Just will buy the new oppo for sure

Where you going to buy? Any special price pls pm me

I know that its only speculation without any actual official announcement on future launches.

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/o...yer-2182553.htm

Part of the contents mentioned...
"In addition to the UDP-203, a UDP-205 model is in development as a successor to the BDP-105/105D with upgraded audio performance. The UDP-205 should be available in early 2017."

IF, I said IF, UDP-205 launches in early 2017, then that is the reason why my earlier comment said that the "UDP-205D" may be released around the end of 2017. I only skip mentioning about UDP-205 loh. Yes, before UDP-205D, there is also the UDP-203D to wait too. Oppo MAY even choose NOT to release a Darbee version too. Anyway, all guesses. As for UDP-203, its too early for me to jump in yet.

I searched and I am not able to find out any info about the MLP 7.1 output matter.

When the Oppo Settings is set to "Bitstream", the audio from MKV should be sent "without any decoding" to the AVR, BUT the Oppo did NOT do that so it "still decodes" the audio as MLP 7.1. I assumed that is what you meant.

Ok... let me explain using Oppo 103D/105D as an example.

The Oppo 103D/105D firmware "BDP10X-83-0715" released in August 2016 "restored" the FULL ability to bitstream Dolby TrueHD, read Note 8...

8.Restored the ability to bitstream Dolby TrueHD audio tracks in MKV files when HDMI Audio is set to Bitstream. If you encounter a no audio issue when playing MKV files, we recommend setting the player’s HDMI Audio setting to Auto (Default) to force the player to output LPCM.

https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103...re-83-0715.aspx

In the previous "BDP10X-80-1031" firmware, there was some "problems" which caused the Dolby TrueHD audio to be output as PCM.

Why am I explaining all this? Possible firmware issue? Here is what I am guessing. I assume that UDP-203 hardware CAN output TrueHD/DTSMA/Atmos/DTSX as Bitstream for MKVs BUT... there will be some bugs or problems with the initial release of the firmware which have not been fixed yet. So, maybe you are right to say that the audio from any MKV/MP4 files with such audio types will be decoded as MLP 7.1 eventhough the setting is "Bitstream". However, I can expect that this "problem" will be fixed in later firmware releases... just like what happened with Oppo BDP-103D/105D.

Another thing that I wish to add here... I can expect even more stricter enforcement of what any bluray/UHD player is or is not "allowed" to play especially when those Movie companies forced compliance with the bluray licensing and implementation of AACS 2.0. With that being said, players with "issued with the bluray license" are currently NOT allowed to play bluray ISO, SACD ISO, pirated SACD physical discs, BDMV folder cannot be played like a "bluray", etc etc. Who knows? Those movie folks may even "force" additional compliance such as "disabling" MKV to output as bitstream for Atmos/DTSX/TrueHD/DTSMA so MAYBE that is why MLP 7.1 is output.

I don't think its okay for me to talk more on any unofficial Jailbreak for the firmware. I can only say that such "restrictions" will be... mmm... you know what I mean. For people who ONLY plays genuine physical UHD Bluray / Bluray / SACD discs... no need any jailbreak. But for people with MKV files, harddisks and "whatever"... MANY such people will choose to WAIT till the jailbreak is out, hehehe.

There is also one more additional "bad" feature for UHD 4K blurays that many do not know. Its already in AACS 2.0 but the Movie companies have not yet "put" this into 4K blurays released currently. Why did they not put it into current releases? Simple... they want to make 4K blurays popular first and then later "hit" us with the damn ridiculous "feature" which is quite similar to what Microsoft had been doing to Microsoft Windows (AND many other software) for so so many years. I will "try" to dig up more details on this to see if its true or not and then report it in my later comments. Its discouraging and a bummer for me especially when I am so eager to go all out for 4K blurays. Hehe... I think there are people here who DO know what I am talking about.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Dec 16 2016, 10:10 PM

Thanks for the answer and detail explanation

Got few places I usually buy from for oppo. Will see which give good price later

If got good price you want to join me?

Sure

PM you later

sure

How much better would the 205 be compared to the 203, think the price would be in the 6k region. How much better in stereo music plays? Worth the extra 2k+?

For stereo play compare to 103 and 105 it make lots of difference

This question cannot be answered properly because I think none of us knows what kind of internal DAC that Oppo will use in the 205 for the analogue components and whether Oppo will design its own Toroidal transformer or use from other company.

The 203 uses SoC (System On Chip) developed with MediaTek for the image processing. I haven't heard any news on what chip will be used for the image processing but I "believe" that it should be the same. So... yes, "IF" the same video chip, I think there is no difference for the Video quality.

I think that we can at least know something about the difference when we compare the existing BDP-103D and BDP-105D. The 105D stereo analog quality is far better. XLR balanced output from 105D helps in improving the audio quality. So... whether its worth it to pay extra 2K+ to get the BDP-105D will depend on what is your priority... watching blurays a lot using HDMI or listening to analogue audio a lot. It will also depend on each person's ears too so its important to personally audition first. One friend of mine auditioned the 105D stereo analog and TOTALLY did not hear any difference when playing CD !!

If you have other high-end toys which you used specifically for "stereo" enjoyment such DAC, CD Player, Turntable, stereo amp, etc... then probably its much better to get the BDP-103D or the future UDP-205.

BDP-93 or BDP-95... BDP-103D or BDP-105D... UDP-203 or UDP-205 ? I think they all have similar answer to your question.

One thing that I will do... even if I get the UDP-205 or UDP205D, I intend to keep my BDP-105D until it "dies". I will only use the 4K player to... mmm ... only play 4K blurays.