Dear Altis owner and all,

I am considering the 2014 Altis as one of the choices for my new car.

One of the biggest confusion (I am sure with a lot others as well), is the justifications of buying 2.0 model vs the 1.8 variant.
2.0G is about RM 9k more, but what are the benefits?

1)  Is it really true that the 2.0 is 0.2 seconds slower from 0 - 100km/h and 5km/h lower top speed? How can that be?
1.8 - 139PS at 6400 rpm, 173 NM of torque at 4000rpm
2.0 - 145 PS at 6200 rpm, 187 NM of torque at 3600rpm.

2.0 litre has higher HP and torque, both achieved at lower RPM, it is hard to understand why it has slower acceleration and lower top speed? Is the figures from 2.0V? How much heavier is the car compared to 1.8? The slightly heavier weight (I assume less than 50kg) and 17 inch wheel and slightly wider wheel really had such a huge impact on the power and Torque gain??


So....my point is, 2.0 being slower than 1.8 yet more expensive? The price penalty is for more equipment only?[COLOR=red]
2) Does the 2.0 G or V has more sound insulation materials compared to 1.8 variant? In bonnet or trunk area or Engine wall?
How is the NVH or 2.0 compared to 1.8? Is it similar or noticeably better?
From test drive reviews, found the comment that 2.0 is very smooth and quiet, how does it compare to 1.8?
If anything, I mean 1.8 gets same level of sound insulation material, I would expect road noise in 1.8 to be less due to smaller tires.
3) Are the three Altis variants (2.0V vs 2.0G vs. 1.8) using exactly same suspension spring rates and same absorber?
If that is the case, I would expect the 1.8 to have more comfortable ride at the expense of handling due to its more forgiving tires.
4) Can anyone help me with understanding these gear ratios?
Quote -
"As for forward ratios, the 1.8 litre model’s gearbox has gear ratios of 2.480 to 0.396 with a 5.356 final drive, while the 2.0 litre engine’s gearbox specs are 2.396 to 0.428 with a 5.182 final drive. "

How does that translate? I don't understand the numbers.
2.0 model has more relaxed ratio for highway cruising? So that explains why it is slower in acceleration compared to 1.8?[COLOR=red]

Anyway, I don't understand totally how CVT works.

Can anybody share what is the cruising rpm of Altis 1.8 at 140km/h vs 2.0 at 140km/h.

Are the 1.8 or 2.0 engine has enough torque or power that it can still "cruise" at relaxed low RPM manner at speeds of 160km/h and above? Or at such speed, the CVT will have to alter the ratio to keep the engine speed very high due to insufficient power or torque of the engine?
Looking forward to your response, sorry for the long list of questions. Hope  you guys can help me with some good info

2 airbags is enough comfort for thought. Airbags alone will not save you if you are speeding. Better to drive at a safe and reasonable speed. My Waja doesn't have airbags. Neither does it have VSC but I have no problems. As always, drive safe.

Thank you for your guidance and confirmation that I am foolish.

Is life truly in one's hands? No. It's in God's hands. We can prepare for everything but when time is up, it's up.

Anyway, thank you for your discourse and passion in this subject. We can agree to disagree. It's just that my priorities and considerations are different from yours.

Thats absolutely correct, i wrote a few times in this forum about airbags because working in media industry i have seen a lot of car crash photos.

Almost all of the photos we can see no airbags pop out. Its just like the text SRS airbags on steering wheel and dashboard are gimmicks only.

Ah....Airbags always the arguing point when it comes to discussion of any cars especially Toyota. Looks like most people will put priority to airbags than the car reliability/outlook/performance/comforts/maintenance...... 

My point is, if you are not happy with the car, just don't buy it. Why come to the specific car club territory and shoot the owner? It seems like a kid carrying Burger King's burger to McD and yelled:" McD sucks .....! "

It is almost like a gimmick, i cant say it is a gimmick because the airbag is there, somewhere hidden in the car. But as you said earlier airbags wont deploy until something hit its point of impact.

However, even with many airbags it doesnt mean we are safe. Better buy a car which gives you few airbags and more other equipment and nice accesories, it will be good enough.

If u asking and need my opinion, i will always say dont believe on airbags 

Mazda 3 is really cool~~ but Toyota engine and gearbox is really a good 1...

Today I went to c..drool..after u c this mazda..altis v spec is like wtf..summore its cbu..free 3 years service..lol..and without leather is rm136k..the interior like holy mama..sorry I shiok myself..

Nissan ah pek car..lol

even the entry level specs 1.8E (with VSC & 6 airbags) are way better than altis 1.8E lor 

Nice review and thanks for the advice.

Look like first step is to change the crap Dunlop tyre to Michelin first..

I wonder how much will it cost to trade-in the Dunlops for Michelins

Jetta CKD and sylphy is out...
hmm.. altis, sylphy or jetta...?

sorry I mean Jetta CKD and sylphy is just launch...
now thinking altis, sylphy or jetta...

does look like a good buy over the altis. would have bought it if had been launched last year. well, i'll bear with my Altis for next few years...