In a dilemma...

Lancer 2.0 AT
- Maintenance is low.
- Spacious cabin for 4 ppl.
- Medium comfort.
- Solid handling, reasonable good pick up for overtaking with shiftronic AT
- Leather seat.
- Cheaper by 10k
- Classic car.

Honda CR-Z MT
- Medium maintenance cost
- Sport cabin for 2 ppl. May not be sustainable over the long run...
- Smaller cabin, not as comfortable
- Handling claim to be good, got Electric motor boost for low rpm range.
- Eco mode, Sport mode, normal mode. Fun to drive (driving 5-6 hrs per day, so its kind of important)
- Interactive dash meter, change between green/blue/red depend on driving style.
- S Plus feature. Give a 5 sec boost in torque power via electric motor. Like a very mini turbo.
- Manual transmission 1-6 gear. (i like manual...)
- "Green" car. The motor is assisted by a small electric motor, slightly lower Co2 emission.
- Unique look. Not as many on the road.
- Edgy and stuff with new tech.

you gona spend 6 hours a day in the car..... you better test drive both to see if you really like them.... just a note, a harsh car gets old real fast when you have to spend extended amounts of time in it...

i own 2 proton before, drive >10 years since university days. the car itself reasonable good, offer reasonable value (that is because gomen knock huge tax on foreign brand. Thai Indo Phil City/Vios is price same as Persona level. thats why Indon/Thais will not see any value in Persona). The brand itself not so good. Malaysian willing to pay 50% more to get a Honda/Toyota and resulted in Proton fallen behind Honda/Toyota in market share (features & reliability play a part). I drove both Persona & 2012 Honda City for >3yrs respectively, both car were as good in term of performance & reliability (some like the plastic of city/vios or Persona, down to personal flavor), yet there were more city/vios being sold despite 50% higher price.

displacement is just a number, and slowly a history. you can have a 2400cc and yet get smoke badly by 1400cc car equip with turbo/twin charger.

Name: Volkswagen Passat 1.8 TSI (B7) vs Honda Civic 1.5 Turbo
Price: 118k vs 128k
Both new

Opinion?
Should I go for specs or long term maintenance prospect...

You basically cannot compare a Durian with a Cheese Cake

Compare D2 Durian with D24 Durian or compare Japanese Cheese Cake with boston Cheese Cake la

One is Conti & another is JDM

frankly speaking..... im a fan of the civic, my vote would go to the civic.... its a beautiful car and being a honda, it will be cheaper to maintain (not saying cheap, just saying cheaper then the passat) civic comes loaded with specs as well...... comparable to the passat if in not wrong. Im sure you know about the potential issues surrounding passat's dsg (pretty sure its using the problematic one). At the moment, some owners in thailand have experienced some issues with their cvt as well, not sure why so maybe wait a while to make sure its resolved.

Heard that Civic 1.5T have issues , whereas 1.8 so far no issue yet

if u mean that overheating thing..... its not just the 1.5, from the pics of the cars in the sc, u will see that some were actually the 1.8 (the na ones) which lead me to suspecting that its probably one of the shared components, in this case the cvt.... engine itself seems fine, only thing 'not so great' with the 1.5 is the servicing interval which is kinda short....

The Turbo servicing issue, they still noob on that

Is there any 1600cc AUTO transmission SPACIOUS/MPV seaters used car with fold-able rear seats? say 7-9 years old model to recommend? if possible with diesel engine even better.

Hard to find what i need...

HI,

Would like to ask for advise. Got a deal for VW Passat B7 1.8 for RM67K. Is it a YAY or Nay? Did some research on the DSG Gearbox and the owner said had been replaced last year and new clutch and mineral base oil are doing well. Is that true? and any other maintenance problem on that B7 model?

It will be my first conti experience and hope to be good ...

Thanks in advance for advise.

Wat year ?

sounds gooding

ism91 and digilife, Proton Iriz 1.3 Mt is still way better than myvi in terms of everything except after sales service and spacious(https://www.carsome.my/news/item/Head-to-Head-Proton-Iriz-VS-Perodua-Myvi).I am surprise that proton has done a great job in fuel consumption which i really need the most.Proton Delivers the best fuel consumption for proton iriz.Ok maybe i will get iriz 1.6 executive mt but i still do not know yet.

I think for first time buyer and in a tight budget I'd not recommend Iriz, Polo, Rio or Swift.

2014 Toyota Vios 1.5 G-spec - one of the safest options would be a Vios because although buying a used car is also thought as a gamble because you're a greenhorn and might get cheated the Vios is pretty robust even if the previous owner didn't maintain it properly, and if anything did go wrong getting it repaired/replace isn't going to be very expensive. The trick is the more of that car is on the road, the cheaper the parts are and easier to get. Of course with a RM60k budget I think you would be able to score a Vios J-spec after discounts, so do checkout the Raya promotions. If you're not in a hurry for the car then you can tell the SA you're willing to get the car at the end of July. This is because most likely all his customers want a new car before Raya so can go back kampung to show off so his quota/target for June is already hit, but he will need to start to think about July/August so if you're willing to wait abit then mebbe u might be able to squeeze abit more better service/discount from the SA.

2013 Nissan Latio 1.8 - this is the more powerful 1800cc variant and comes with the optional factory fitted Impul bodykit. From the pictures it looks like a nice, clean and well maintained car. While it is a C-segment car when it comes to size and engine capacity, it could be due to cost cutting by Nissan Malaysia (Tan Chong Motors) that it doesn't have the kit usually associated with C-segment cars now like stability control, paddle shifters, etc. However, for your needs it should be fine you don't really need many of those gimmicks -- although lacking stability control this has only become standard equipment in recent cars and not all cars have it so not having it isn't a big issue just don't drive like a hoon Perhaps the only upgrade you need to do for this car is buying a touch screen mp3/usb player for the center console, other than that this car is pretty well equipped for your needs.

Not much options there as there are only 2-3 cars from your requirement.

1. Toyota Vios - standard sized b-segment car, 1500cc quite fuel efficient and powerful (also Vios isn't a heavy car so the "fast tin kosong" analogy applies), cheapest maintenance and parts among the 3.
2. Nissan Almera - stretched body so it has the largest cabin space for both front and rear passengers, B-segment, 1500cc engine which is quite underpowered if you drive it hard it is going to be a fuel guzzler, should be a consideration if internal space is priority like fetching family or you've a baby on the way, etc.
3. Mitsubishi Attrage - the smallest of the bunch, A-segment, 1200cc engine, good as an in-city car not too advisable for outstation trips, decent safety features, good fuel consumption.

iinm Mazda3 and City should be just slightly above 70k.

Entry level Subaru Forester for RM119k
sos

Subaru XV for RM90k
sos

It is either they've over anticipated the orders for their cars or sales is really bad.
Two models from the same manufacturer, but why?
One thing the two have in common is a lack of turbo.
Subaru's reputation has been built on a boxer turbo and AWD.
This two models although having a similar boxer engine is tuned to run without a turbo.
Although the power is decent it kind of disappoints it's fan base.
I'm guessing Subaru did so because without a turbo it is less complicated to maintain and cheaper to maintain, so they thought they could really go mass market with this two models to fight against HRV/CX3 (for XV) and CRV/CX5 (Forester). Infact, the XV was launched before the HRV/CX3 and back then the only competition was the Toyota Rush which for me is basically an Avanza with AWD and clever styling. I think XV lost alot of sales and market share when HRV and CX3 launched, only those not willing to wait and wanted a 2000cc engine would've cancelled their orders and went ahead for an XV. I think maintenance for the XV is decent as they did sold quite a number of them before HRV/CX3 came around so there is an incentive for 3rd party parts wholesalers to keep parts for this model. Forester is a good car but it lacks turbo and maintenance isn't going to be cheap as their numbers (even the model with turbo) isn't abundant in our market.

2009 Nissan Dualis 2.0 - this is the JDM version of Nissan X-Trail. Basically, it is exactly the same as the X-trail in terms of engine/gearbox/AWD system except it looks better. Yeah, the X-Trail is a good car and has a good AWD system which you can convert from 2x4 to 4x4 at a touch of a button unlike cars like Honda CRV which is stuck at 4x4 mode all the time. Just for your information the flexibility to change from 2x4 to 4x4 is mostly to do with speed and fuel efficiency, this is because in 4x4 mode the engine needs to work for 4 tires where in 2x4 mode the engine only needs to work for 2 tires so going at higher speeds and saving fuel when 4x4 is not needed but when you need it lets say you're driving on the highway and you see dark clouds ahead and wanna go into 4x4 mode just in case you need the extra grip cause of heavy rain/flood then to go from 2x4 all you need to do is drive slower to about 40-60kmh press the 4x4 button and the car/computer does the rest. Unlike pickup trucks where you need to go to an R&R stop and do the change, the system on Nissan X-trail/Dualis can do this without a need to stop. In a nutshell the Dualis is as cheap to maintain as an X-trail and you can think of it as one but of course JDM quality build inside and outside is better, just only time parts would get expensive is during an accident but then usually it would be covered by insurance if it is an expensive fix so not much to worry.



This post has been edited by zenix: Jun 27 2016, 11:57 AM

i think service and less headache buying from your local used car dealer than coming to kl.
there are lots of cases people get cheated.
since it is outstation case and they gottta travel 4hrs everytime to the dealer.
later they give up and just do police report but nothing happen.

you're stating the spec/benefits of the car.
but what exactly is your requirements?

Passat's depreciate like a rock, you can find them around the 60-70k range for 2012/2013 cars.
I think the Civic will hold it's value very well being another potential hot honda model.
If you like the Passat why not consider getting a used one or look around for cheap pre-reg deals.

Not too sure because you didn't state a budget and how many seats you need.

I guess the obvious choice is only Exora.

2013 VW Passat 1.8TSI - actually finding Passats around the 60k price range isn't anything special, there are lots of them around. In fact this one is pretty good it is a 2013 car so it will be under warrranty from VW until 2018, they'll give you full documentation (e.g. owners manual, service booklet, etc), and it has a nice number 8878

Well, the engine will still run if you use lousy oil, it will just die faster.
Example: You go buy mineral water or RO water to drink, both also can right? But you know mineral water is better for you.

1. Brand: Currently considering Toyota WISH, Honda Stream. Any other equivalent model?
2. Budget. Around RM90k (Nicely allocated RM1k per month for loan repayment and fuel consumption)
3. New/Used/Unreg. Unregistered
4. Specs Minimum of 4 airbags & other safety concern. Accessories is bonus (push start, paddle shift, sunroof, rear camera, etc)
5. Transmission. Auto. Got others?
6. NA or FI ? Dunno
7. Type. Any, prefer 7 seater
8. Remarks.
Mainly use for weekly travelling from Malacca to KL to fetch my parents, plus with 2 adult.
Occasionally use for vacation and holiday travel.
Initially consider other brand but rejected:
- new grand livina & avanza, rejected due to space
- new innova, rejected due to budget
- unreg Alphard or Estima, rejected due to not realistic. only a dream

You want to talk abt FC, yes, my Wira, pump rm50 can pergi balik Seremban ~ KL 3 times in a week & still have enough fuel for town driving until the orange warning light come out. Calculate how much mileage I clocked yourself. Its a Manual 1.5 , carb model, of course la the carb tuned by a carb expert in Seremban.

2008 Toyota Estima 2.4 unreg - i'm guessing the oldest (2008) model would be where the starting price of RM118k starts. So what do you think? 20k extra from your budget but would be your dream car, right?

2005 Toyota Alphard 3.0 - it is cheap and recon, but prepare for a pretty hefty roadtax

Anyway I think your choice of Wish/Stream is good, but actually they're in the same class as the Livina, so space wise they're not far apart. Anyway, new Livina and unreg Stream/Wish would all be using 1800cc at maximum spec. Talking about spec the Wish has a slight advantage over the Steam as the Wish/Livina has doouble aircon blowers while the Steam only has one so it will get pretty hot for the back row of seats.

2016 Toyota Sienta 1.5 - you might have seen this so let me just tell what it is, basically it is the Toyota version of a Perodua Alza. A b-segment sized MPV. So, yeah, space wise it sucks. End.

2016 Chery Eastar 2.0 and 2016 Chery Maxime 2.0 - well actually the Maxime is the replacement model for the Eastar. I think you might have come across it. Based on specs and looks I'm quite suspicious it is some cetak rompak/JV version of an older Toyota Wish but I can't be too sure. There also is no crash test information for this car so driving it on highways often is a risk but spec wise it looks good. You might see these cars for sale so you have my two cents.

2010/2011 Toyota Wish 1.8 - i suppose end of the day the most wise choice would be picking up a car like this, the facelift model of the Wish, since it has a pretty good spec -- upgraded gearbox with 7AT, Eco mode, touch screen DVD, and limited warranty (normally for recon/grey import cars they'll give you a years worth of warranty for the major components like engine/gearbox). But of course it lacks the power doors and boot. Less headache with a Wish as maintenance and parts will always be cheap.

i mean that i am talking about iriz mt . Yes wira is a good car.However i still like iriz more than myvi and kia picanto and axia and wira.because it is better than myvi,axia and picanto. I think iriz is better than wira. What do you think?(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2Sn4raDqY)(https://www.carsome.my/news/item/Head-to-Head-Proton-Iriz-VS-Perodua-Myvi).How about persona and saga flx? which one is better saga flx or persona or iriz mt or exora cfe or cps or suprima s or preve cfe?

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jun 27 2016, 02:00 PM

biarlah dia.... he is abit....errrrr...... dont even know how to explain it... he talks about one thing, then hops off the the next thing, then copy and pastes everything (usually the exact same repeated thing all over the place) for really god knows what reason..... and this whole process repeats and loops forever in an sad sad infinite loop which would make superman bleed if he was a programmer

i mean, he replied to your post which had nothing to do with tiny cars, irises, myvis or fuel consumption... there was absolutely no correlation between your post and his reply...... when a post has the keyword iris in it, my eyes instantly look to the left to check who said it.....