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nikaizad
post Apr 27 2016, 08:07 PM

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guys.

im 17 this year.

gran dad want to buy me car

he said budget 10k +-3k


What car can i get? hyundai getz can or not?

Or dont get a car ride bus/basikal/motor/lrt/ask gfs mum to payung

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post Apr 27 2016, 09:02 PM

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Guys, any car to recommend for RM60K budget? Looking at Myvi 1.5 Adv and iriz 1.6 Premium. I will need to travel to KL from Klang daily for work.
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post Apr 27 2016, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 27 2016, 11:05 AM)
I saw LSM's reply but here is my dua sen.
There is no Mercedes "black top" engine, it is probably the M271. sos

It has basically 4 variations:
1) 1.6 kompressor (super charger)
2) 1.8 kompressor (super charger)
3) 1.8 CGI (turbo)
4) 2.0 naturally aspirated

2002 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (W203) C 180 KOMPRESSOR, C 200 KOMPRESSOR, C 230 KOMPRESSOR
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2007 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (W204) C 180 KOMPRESSOR, C 200 KOMPRESSOR
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Just incase you're wondering....

There is no "2.0 kompressor" it is either one of the engines above. The difference between C180/C200/C230 is usually the additional accessories, features and tuning of the engine for more power -- basically the mechanicals are the same. I know some people going to feel short changed thinking their C230 is no better than a C180 but think about it the engine capacity doesn't matter to you driving it, what matters is the power when you press the pedal and enjoying the features/accessories in your car (everyone knows C180 is most basic). But the fact of the matter is having the same engine and gearbox means lower running cost as parts are common between many models. Plus when warranty is over just tune it to get more power  devil.gif
Unfortunately leaking engine and mitsubishi tak berpisah especially for the 80s & 90's era  ranting.gif
So what kind of budget you're looking at for your SUV/Crossover?

Pre-FL = before facelift

2015 Nissan X-Gear - i think this would fit you as it is within budget (67k), if you want to consider a new one wait around for promotions as the normal price is about 90k but usually promotion like the coming Raya sales you might see it drop to around 80-85k depending on their desperation. Nissan's usually practice this throw price policy that's why their cars resale value isn't as good because even if their normal price is 90k but if they always throw at 85k then it becomes a market normal thus people have a hard time selling used cars above 75k even a year old with warranty because too close to the new car price. Back to used cars, you can look around for the year and model you want, this particular advert seems to be advertising the full spec version with touch screen and leather seats -- don't expect too much from X-Gear it is not a luxury type car it is the cheapest C-segment in the Nissan range you can buy new (maybe other brands also dun have a c-segment at this price). The engine is cheap to maintain and capable but it is not very powerful, full load of luggage and passengers for a vacation might make the engine feel sluggish but for everyday soccer mom duty it is very capable and nippy. While not as high as a pick-up or SUV, the seating is higher than sedan cars. I think such a car strikes a good balance between price, maintenance cost, accessories, age of vehicle and requirements met.
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Thx, so it turned out to be a c180 elegance 2.0l. Despite that, I decided to take it since the engine, interior and gearbox r running good. Another question arises as to the interval of servicing. Also can any sifu recommend good service center for MB. Thx a lot

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post Apr 27 2016, 11:21 PM

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1. Brand : preferred Japanese
2. Budget : 30 +/- k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0 - 2.5
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : SUV (Ford Escape, X-Trail, CR-V, RAV4, Tucson, Sportage, Freelander...)
8. Remarks : Use for city and long distant travel
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post Apr 28 2016, 12:02 AM

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my budget is 60k

QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 27 2016, 10:05 AM)
I saw LSM's reply but here is my dua sen.
There is no Mercedes "black top" engine, it is probably the M271. sos

It has basically 4 variations:
1) 1.6 kompressor (super charger)
2) 1.8 kompressor (super charger)
3) 1.8 CGI (turbo)
4) 2.0 naturally aspirated

2002 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (W203) C 180 KOMPRESSOR, C 200 KOMPRESSOR, C 230 KOMPRESSOR
user posted image

2007 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (W204) C 180 KOMPRESSOR, C 200 KOMPRESSOR
user posted image
Just incase you're wondering....

There is no "2.0 kompressor" it is either one of the engines above. The difference between C180/C200/C230 is usually the additional accessories, features and tuning of the engine for more power -- basically the mechanicals are the same. I know some people going to feel short changed thinking their C230 is no better than a C180 but think about it the engine capacity doesn't matter to you driving it, what matters is the power when you press the pedal and enjoying the features/accessories in your car (everyone knows C180 is most basic). But the fact of the matter is having the same engine and gearbox means lower running cost as parts are common between many models. Plus when warranty is over just tune it to get more power  devil.gif
Unfortunately leaking engine and mitsubishi tak berpisah especially for the 80s & 90's era  ranting.gif
So what kind of budget you're looking at for your SUV/Crossover?

Pre-FL = before facelift

2015 Nissan X-Gear - i think this would fit you as it is within budget (67k), if you want to consider a new one wait around for promotions as the normal price is about 90k but usually promotion like the coming Raya sales you might see it drop to around 80-85k depending on their desperation. Nissan's usually practice this throw price policy that's why their cars resale value isn't as good because even if their normal price is 90k but if they always throw at 85k then it becomes a market normal thus people have a hard time selling used cars above 75k even a year old with warranty because too close to the new car price. Back to used cars, you can look around for the year and model you want, this particular advert seems to be advertising the full spec version with touch screen and leather seats -- don't expect too much from X-Gear it is not a luxury type car it is the cheapest C-segment in the Nissan range you can buy new (maybe other brands also dun have a c-segment at this price). The engine is cheap to maintain and capable but it is not very powerful, full load of luggage and passengers for a vacation might make the engine feel sluggish but for everyday soccer mom duty it is very capable and nippy. While not as high as a pick-up or SUV, the seating is higher than sedan cars. I think such a car strikes a good balance between price, maintenance cost, accessories, age of vehicle and requirements met.
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post Apr 28 2016, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(H1nk @ Apr 27 2016, 11:19 PM)
Thx, so it turned out to be a c180 elegance 2.0l. Despite that, I decided to take it since the engine, interior and gearbox r running good. Another question arises as to the interval of servicing. Also can any sifu recommend good service center for MB. Thx a lot
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Ohh it really is a 2.0? I thought that was a typo...
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post Apr 28 2016, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Apr 27 2016, 08:07 PM)
guys.

im 17 this year. 

gran dad want to buy me car

he said budget 10k +-3k
What car can i get? hyundai getz can or not?

Or dont get a car ride bus/basikal/motor/lrt/ask gfs mum to payung
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Whether u need a car really depends on what you want/need to do....
If you don't really need one, hang on and wait till you actually need one (unless you get a super good deal on a car you know is decent)

Anyway if I did need a car and had that kind of budget.... I would personally go for one of the older potongs, be it a Wira, satria or saga... Never forget about maintanance, insurance and roadtax
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post Apr 28 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(long3016 @ Apr 27 2016, 11:06 AM)
any review for mazda 3 year 2011 to 2012 2.0 sedan with smiling face bumper?
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It is a good car but the gap between it and the new Skyactiv range is night and day in terms of styling, spec, performance and fuel economy.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Apr 27 2016, 11:12 AM)
unfortunately so true ;-;
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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Apr 27 2016, 08:07 PM)
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2011 Proton Saga BLM - this is at the top range of your budget but keep in mind this would be a more hassle free car because it is newer and being a proton getting replacement parts is much easier and cheaper. With your lack of experience driving I'd recommend a sedan like this because it is future proof incase you need to carry luggage or go vacation with family/friends, and also there is a much bigger buffer with a longer bonnet and boot incase of accidents. It is not fool proof but it is the best I think within your budget.

QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Apr 27 2016, 09:02 PM)
Guys, any car to recommend for RM60K budget? Looking at Myvi 1.5 Adv and iriz 1.6 Premium. I will need to travel to KL from Klang daily for work.
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You're thinking of buying a car for the long term or something to move around for the moment to upgrade to something better later on?

QUOTE(H1nk @ Apr 27 2016, 11:19 PM)
Thx, so it turned out to be a c180 elegance 2.0l. Despite that, I decided to take it since the engine, interior and gearbox r running good. Another question arises as to the interval of servicing. Also can any sifu recommend good service center for MB. Thx a lot
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Since you haven't reveal what is the year make and price offered I can't tell if it is a good deal or not.

Normally, a service interval of 10,000km is recommended.

There are pro's and con's to your decision. The pro's a normally aspirated engine is normally more robust and easier to maintain thus (perhaps) specialist workshops may not be required. The con's is the 2.0 normally aspirated engine isn't quite as common as the 1.8 kompressor/cgi engines here which might lead to obtaining parts an issue or cost more (i could be wrong), the 2.0 engine is quite gutless when it comes to power delivery, and C180 with 2.0 is the bottom of the hierarchy thus although on the outside it looks like any other on the inside the interior and tech is inferior to the rest. It was probably the cheapest merc to buy before they came out with the A and B class.

BTW most of my experience with C-Class were from the 1.8 kompressor.

Review of the C180 with 2.0 normal aspirated engine
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post Apr 28 2016, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 23 2016, 10:30 AM)
2006 Lexus IS250 - if you want to up the snob factor you can opt to pick the IS250 instead of the Mark X, they share the same mechanical parts but the body styling is different but it isn't a problem getting parts even for busted door (if a mat rempit bang onto it) is easy to source for (you might get abit burned by the seller coz he assumes all Lexus owners are rich so make sure haggle for a good price especially at chop shops).
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Too bad mazda 6 proposal was turned down by wife, she want a weekend car and its MPV or SUV type, so here i am asking another opinion/suggestion with budget 20k ++ a bit, which of this following car is reliable, big space and cheap to maintain (all are 2.0) so yeah it wont be as cheap as 1.6's:
1. Mada 5/Premacy , look are good, from the review i heard its quite tight space (5+2)
2. Nissan Serena its price is in high side, so i was wondering is it worth it to get a 2004 car for that price
3. Honda CR-V so far it seem this car is the best option, big space and boot altho with my budget seem like only can get manufactured 2005 max
4. Nissan X-Trail look ugly, i dont know much about it

i welcome all opinion and suggestion from all the fellow forumer here
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post Apr 28 2016, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(garfieldX @ Apr 28 2016, 11:40 AM)
Too bad mazda 6 proposal was turned down by wife, she want a weekend car and its MPV or SUV type, so here i am asking another opinion/suggestion with budget 20k ++ a bit, which of this following car is reliable, big space and cheap to maintain (all are 2.0) so yeah it wont be as cheap as 1.6's:
1. Mada 5/Premacy , look are good, from the review i heard its quite tight space (5+2)
2. Nissan Serena its price is in high side, so i was wondering is it worth it to get a 2004 car for that price
3. Honda CR-V so far it seem this car is the best option, big space and boot altho with my budget seem like only can get manufactured 2005 max
4. Nissan X-Trail look ugly, i dont know much about it

i welcome all opinion and suggestion from all the fellow forumer here
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just poking...., listed from most relatable to utter random crap
grand livina (this is actually decent)
exora (also somewhat decent + has a 1.6l engine)
avanza (me no like)
rondo/citra
chery eastar (me know nuts about this other than the engine is very much related to the 4g63)
rexton (me like, but huge engine)
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post Apr 28 2016, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Apr 27 2016, 11:21 PM)
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Ford Escape/Freelander = money pit
X-Trail/CR-V = probably the best two
RAV4 = smaller size than X-Trail/CRV
Tucson/Sportage = the newer ones are good but the older ones I wouldn't really recommend them.

You can read more about the XT/CRV below laugh.gif

QUOTE(officeBoy @ Apr 28 2016, 12:02 AM)
my budget is 60k
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60k for a SUV?
What do you think about Nissan Dualis? brows.gif
Read my reply to the guy below.

QUOTE(garfieldX @ Apr 28 2016, 11:40 AM)
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That's too bad, but a weekend SUV/MPV i presume would be converted into a full time soccer mom vehicle in the foreseeable future?

Mazda Premacy would be in the same category as Nissan Livina, it is a smaller MPV which is a cross between an actual MPV and Stationwagon, iinm the Premacy like the Livina is also built on a sedan car chassis which is why it has better handling and is lower to the ground (doesn't require steps to get in and out). The problem is of course space as it is basically a stationwagon/stretched sedan the last row of seats isn't too great for space. Legally wise you can ferry 7 people in the car as it has 7 seatbelts but physically the last row is meant mostly for small children, even small sized adults might find it uncomfortable for short trips like fetch colleagues to lunch.

2000 Toyota Ipsum - a car in the same ilk as the ones above except it might be a bit better or worst depending on your point of view. In terms of space it isn't that much better than Premacy/Livina but in terms of quality it is slightly better as it is a JDM model. JDM model are rare here so although the car is 16 years old it wouldn't look very old from the outside especially one maintained as well as this one but on the inside people can tell it's age with that beige interior and funny colored seats, but it also has additional implications when you're getting spare parts. Although the engine is the 1AZ-FE from the 2006-2009 Camry and 2001-2003 RAV4 the body panels are rare and not common here, so although small accidents like fender benders and parking mishaps are repairable anything major accidents requiring many parts and body panels might take awhile for the workshop to source -- i'm not talking about the cost here because it is covered under insurance and from my experience only when insurance is involve is when a major accident occurs and lots of parts are needed else most things are common with other Toyota models even glass panels isn't an issue as there are many factories making compatible sizes -- worried about the glass quality? don't worry just put tinted and 2mm safety tint it will be solid!

Nissan Serena Highwaystar still has a good resale value because it uses one of the better engines from Nissan which is the SR20DE engine, the same one in the Silvia and Altima although the Silvia S15 top range model gets a turbo-ed SR20DET engine. Turbo or not it is a great engine, powerful, economical to maintain and fuel economy isn't too bad (keep in mind this is a 90's engine so fuel economy and carbon output is different than what we're used to nowadays).

Of similar size is the Toyota Estima 2.5 with supercharger, I've been told maintenance for that model is quite a pain so best to avoid it unless you really don't mind the cost and time to maintain it for the power brows.gif

You're right that the CRV is probably the best you can get as it has a good balance of power, economical maintenance, space and fuel economy. I know you might not be too comfortable with such an old car but budget constrains don't give you much of a choice, of course you can choose a much younger Ford Escape or Everest but those cars would be expensive to maintain relative to their purchase price, a Toyota Harrier is also a nice choice but it is even older. But don't worry about the age of the car too much as it is an open secret that the second and third gen CRV share many things in common so if anything goes wrong there is a huge parts bin you can get cheaply from chop shops coz those models were in production from 2000-2011 laugh.gif

2011 Cherry Tiggo - i know it is on sale and you might be tempted to buy because it is relatively new, quite cheap and based on older Toyota RAV4 it should be great, right? I will let these results speak for themselves, click here.

X-Trail is by far the best you can probably get for the budget. It is a very successful model worldwide and in malaysia so getting local original parts or from chopshop or imported OEM/compatible not an issue. Maintenance isn't going to be expensive but it is still an SUV and it is still a 2000cc car so don't expect it to be as cheap as maintaining a Kancil. Fuel economy and flexibility is better than it's rival CRV because unlike the CRV which is a full time 4 wheel drive the AWD system on the X-trail allows it to be 2WD/4WD and auto mode (somewhere in between) with a touch of a button on the dash like selecting a radio channel on the go under 40kmh -- this is a big difference from even pickups that requires you to fully stop the car before changing between modes. A good feature to have especially on unpredictable weather conditions when it starts to rain heavily you can just slow down to engage 4wd mode instead of fully stopping by the side of the road. Wanna know more about the AWD system on the X-trail? Click here. About everything else it is a match for CRV or better....but UGLY!!

2009 Nissan Dualis - okay if you got double the budget this might be something that would interest you. It has all the benefits of the X-trail except it doesn't look ugly because it has the styling cues of the Murano. Basically it is Murano styling with all the mechanical parts ported over from the X-Trail because it is based on the X-Trail platform. Like owning any similar JDM/rare models in Malaysia the only worry is when you need major replacement parts for a major accident, else especially with Japanese company's reusing parts across their model range you should be able to get all the engine, gearbox, and AWD parts without any issues.

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post Apr 28 2016, 01:19 PM

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looking for old but reliable MPV, requirements:

1. Seaters: 7-9
2. low fuel consumption, diesel also can
3. good power, but as low cc as possible
4. passenger seats foldable

appreciate any examples with reasons. TQ!
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post Apr 28 2016, 09:33 PM

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Thanks bro Zenix, first time i heard Dualis ...i like Murano actually, what is the different btw these two car? both need high maintenance ?

QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 28 2016, 01:13 PM)
Ford Escape/Freelander = money pit
X-Trail/CR-V = probably the best two
RAV4 = smaller size than X-Trail/CRV
Tucson/Sportage = the newer ones are good but the older ones I wouldn't really recommend them.

You can read more about the XT/CRV below  laugh.gif
60k for a SUV?
What do you think about Nissan Dualis?  brows.gif
Read my reply to the guy below.
That's too bad, but a weekend SUV/MPV i presume would be converted into a full time soccer mom vehicle in the foreseeable future?

Mazda Premacy would be in the same category as Nissan Livina, it is a smaller MPV which is a cross between an actual MPV and Stationwagon, iinm the Premacy like the Livina is also built on a sedan car chassis which is why it has better handling and is lower to the ground (doesn't require steps to get in and out). The problem is of course space as it is basically a stationwagon/stretched sedan the last row of seats isn't too great for space. Legally wise you can ferry 7 people in the car as it has 7 seatbelts but physically the last row is meant mostly for small children, even small sized adults might find it uncomfortable for short trips like fetch colleagues to lunch.

2000 Toyota Ipsum - a car in the same ilk as the ones above except it might be a bit better or worst depending on your point of view. In terms of space it isn't that much better than Premacy/Livina but in terms of quality it is slightly better as it is a JDM model. JDM model are rare here so although the car is 16 years old it wouldn't look very old from the outside especially one maintained as well as this one but on the inside people can tell it's age with that beige interior and funny colored seats, but it also has additional implications when you're getting spare parts. Although the engine is the 1AZ-FE from the 2006-2009 Camry and 2001-2003 RAV4 the body panels are rare and not common here, so although small accidents like fender benders and parking mishaps are repairable anything major accidents requiring many parts and body panels might take awhile for the workshop to source -- i'm not talking about the cost here because it is covered under insurance and from my experience only when insurance is involve is when a major accident occurs and lots of parts are needed else most things are common with other Toyota models even glass panels isn't an issue as there are many factories making compatible sizes -- worried about the glass quality? don't worry just put tinted and 2mm safety tint it will be solid!

Nissan Serena Highwaystar still has a good resale value because it uses one of the better engines from Nissan which is the SR20DE engine, the same one in the Silvia and Altima although the Silvia S15 top range model gets a turbo-ed SR20DET engine. Turbo or not it is a great engine, powerful, economical to maintain and fuel economy isn't too bad (keep in mind this is a 90's engine so fuel economy and carbon output is different than what we're used to nowadays).

Of similar size is the Toyota Estima 2.5 with supercharger, I've been told maintenance for that model is quite a pain so best to avoid it unless you really don't mind the cost and time to maintain it for the power  brows.gif

You're right that the CRV is probably the best you can get as it has a good balance of power, economical maintenance, space and fuel economy. I know you might not be too comfortable with such an old car but budget constrains don't give you much of a choice, of course you can choose a much younger Ford Escape or Everest but those cars would be expensive to maintain relative to their purchase price, a Toyota Harrier is also a nice choice but it is even older. But don't worry about the age of the car too much as it is an open secret that the second and third gen CRV share many things in common so if anything goes wrong there is a huge parts bin you can get cheaply from chop shops coz those models were in production from 2000-2011  laugh.gif

2011 Cherry Tiggo - i know it is on sale and you might be tempted to buy because it is relatively new, quite cheap and based on older Toyota RAV4 it should be great, right? I will let these results speak for themselves, click here.

X-Trail is by far the best you can probably get for the budget. It is a very successful model worldwide and in malaysia so getting local original parts or from chopshop or imported OEM/compatible not an issue. Maintenance isn't going to be expensive but it is still an SUV and it is still a 2000cc car so don't expect it to be as cheap as maintaining a Kancil. Fuel economy and flexibility is better than it's rival CRV because unlike the CRV which is a full time 4 wheel drive the AWD system on the X-trail allows it to be 2WD/4WD and auto mode (somewhere in between) with a touch of a button on the dash like selecting a radio channel on the go under 40kmh -- this is a big difference from even pickups that requires you to fully stop the car before changing between modes. A good feature to have especially on unpredictable weather conditions when it starts to rain heavily you can just slow down to engage 4wd mode instead of fully stopping by the side of the road. Wanna know more about the AWD system on the X-trail? Click here. About everything else it is a match for CRV or better....but UGLY!!

2009 Nissan Dualis - okay if you got double the budget this might be something that would interest you. It has all the benefits of the X-trail except it doesn't look ugly because it has the styling cues of the Murano. Basically it is Murano styling with all the mechanical parts ported over from the X-Trail because it is based on the X-Trail platform. Like owning any similar JDM/rare models in Malaysia the only worry is when you need major replacement parts for a major accident, else especially with Japanese company's reusing parts across their model range you should be able to get all the engine, gearbox, and AWD parts without any issues.

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post Apr 28 2016, 09:39 PM

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2. Budget : 50 +/- k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New/User
4. Specs : At least have ABS
5. Transmission : Auto/ Manual
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : City drive.. every year few times outstation.. Looking for a car that can last for 10 years+ without breaking my wallet on the maintenance.

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post Apr 28 2016, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(officeBoy @ Apr 28 2016, 09:33 PM)
Thanks bro Zenix, first time i heard Dualis ...i like Murano actually, what is the different btw these two car? both need high maintenance ?
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just a little note.... the murano will cost lots more than your new <30k budget and has a 2.5l engine.....
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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 28 2016, 01:19 PM)
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Usually 9 seaters aren't MPV but usually van's, the only luxury MPV which can seat many people is the Hyundai Starex however I'm having a hard time giving any good information on this car because I'm not a van person might be good or bad but generally for Hyundai, parts carried by 3rd party stockist (the cheaper OEM kind) are quite limited so generally part prices are monopolized/control by Sime Darby.

2009 Nissan Urvan 3.0 Diesel Manual and 2006 Toyota Hiace 3.0 Diesel Manual - again since I'm not really a van person I cannot give you any in dept thoughts on these cars, however if I were to have to make a choice of such vans I'll stick with either Nissan or Toyota (since Honda doesn't make such cars) as you can see lots of them on the streets thus naturally more cars on the road means it is successful, parts are easier to come by, maintenance isn't too expensive and they're pretty reliable as these are mainly used as commercial vehicles thus if they're not all that companies wouldn't continue to keep them and would trade-in for something more economical.

Not too sure on your budget though.

QUOTE(officeBoy @ Apr 28 2016, 09:33 PM)
Thanks bro Zenix, first time i heard Dualis ...i like Murano actually, what is the different btw these two car? both need high maintenance ?
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Think of the Dualis as the little brother of Murano.

Size comparison just to get an idea:
Dualis/Rogue/Qashqai = RAV4/HRV/CX3 (although the Dualis is bigger than them in general, it is slightly smaller than X-Trail)
X-Trail = CRV/CX5
Murano = Prado/CX7

Like I explained previously the Dualis would be just as expensive to maintain as an X-Trail because they share many common components.

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2012 Toyota Vios 1.5 Manual - this is a J-spec manual, it is not a TRD and only has the TRD bodykit. there are some sellers out there always try to fool people that don't know the spec of the cars, e.g. a manual is always a J-spec and you only get rear disc brakes from E-spec onwards. This is important for buying a Vios because they have J/E/G and TRD spec. That doesn't make it a bad car in fact it is a very good car which is cheap to maintain and is reliable -- just be a smart consumer and not yet sellers tipu u. I think this fits your requirements except maybe outstation trip where the puny little 1500cc engine isn't going to give enough juice on the highway if for example you need to overtake a lorry above 100kmh it will strain to immediately give you the power to go 120/130kmh to overtake.

2012 Proton Inspira 1.8 Manuall - think this would be a better choice for you when if we were to take into consideration you're going to use this for 10 years so you need a car that can accommodate your growing needs. It is a C-segment sedan thus lots of space for parents and your own family, the tailgate is abit high for stowing away things into your boot but generally that is a problem all sedan cars have the good thing though it is spacious. I'm not a big fan of the Mitsubishi CVT they have for the automatic models but since you're okay with manuals it is even better as the manual gearbox is reliable and gearing ratio's are pretty good for city drive and capable on highways with an overdrive 5th gear that lets you cruise on the highway above 100kmh below 3000rpm thus is is fuel economical on city roads and highways for outstation -- people often have a complaint about using manual cars in cities because of traffic -- i find that the clutch for this car is pretty light for a 1.8cc anyway just think of it as "leg day" if you really get caught in traffic laugh.gif Maintenance cost and ease of getting spare parts is good as like Proton Wira previously you can opt for Proton parts or Mitsubishi parts. Which is good as you're not locked into proton supply chain dictating the prices of parts as stockist will usually import OEM/compatible/mitsu original from other countries cheaper because there is mass market demand for parts.
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post Apr 29 2016, 10:44 AM

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1. Brand : Suprima S / Preve / Almera / Vios / City
2. Budget : Rm80 K otr
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Possible with price range
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI: ANY
7. Type : any
8. Remarks : Please mention for rep as it easier to track.

I already do some research, but mostly from older version user. i still can't find the latest version user for each product as per mentioned above. please help me deciding the best car as i will probably use the car for next 10 years.
This is not my first car

Please also inform me after sales services, usual defect for the product and the maintenance & part usually cost.

Please no car racism comment

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tekplyrX
post Apr 29 2016, 11:22 AM

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Hello people,
Anyone here knows/can refer a good mechanic I can take with me to inspect a car I'm interested in? It's a bmw e46 btw.

Thanks
lsm1991
post Apr 29 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(tekplyrX @ Apr 29 2016, 11:22 AM)
Hello people,
Anyone here knows/can refer a good mechanic I can take with me to inspect a car I'm interested in? It's a bmw e46 btw.

Thanks
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3 comments...
1)methinks you are in the wrong section
2)you did not mention location... this can be dangerous, one might recommend a guy in sabah
3)honestly, its best to ask in a e46 owners group since they would have the most experience and can tell you exactly what to look for
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post Apr 29 2016, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Koliq18 @ Apr 29 2016, 10:44 AM)
1. Brand : Suprima S / Preve / Almera / Vios / City
2. Budget : Rm80 K otr
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Possible with price range
5. Transmission  : Auto
6. NA or FI: ANY
7. Type : any
8. Remarks : Please mention for rep as it easier to track.

I already do some research, but mostly from older version user. i still can't find the latest version user for each product as per mentioned above. please help me deciding the best car as i will probably use the car for next 10 years.
This is not my first car

Please also inform me after sales services, usual defect for the product and the maintenance & part usually cost.

Please no car racism comment

THANK YOU  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif 
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rclxm9.gif
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car racism? if u r not chinese ah beng or unker u kenot buy vios? laugh.gif

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