QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:23 AM)
I don't know about KO fundamentals but the chart is ugly. You may want to wait unless you're hoping for a quick bounce play?
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Jan 30 2014, 03:37 AM
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Jan 30 2014, 03:41 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:20 AM) I guess the slowly 10b reduce per meeting can be expected if economy continues slowly recover like it did recently. Fed has no gut to cut sharply as to be blamed and cursed by the world if they did. As bond yield has already up to reflect the QE reducing situation, a mild rate hike (although many think that it will be unlikely to happen this year or even next year) may not be as deadly as it might be. You know.. $65bln/month of money printing still a lot. The wall street crooks may think not enough, but since 2008 recession, the Fed already pumped around $3T to the market.At some point in time, the patient needs to get off the drugs.. and recover on his/her own. |
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Jan 30 2014, 04:55 AM
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Jan 30 2014, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 30 2014, 05:22 AM) Don't hold your breath.. I mean, that's what I like to see for better pull back and PE compression afterthe taper set in and the Emerging market sells off. Downside to 1650 (or 1550 worst case scenario) is actually healthy! I think US economy will slowly resume back to normal if the Fed gets out of the way of manipulating the market. The market gains 25% last year.. but revenue grew 7%, you know that means market got ahead of itself. So, must give 10%~15% back for normalization. After hours earnings report: LVS missed earnings, shares tanked AH. (boo! EPS: 0.72 vs 0.85 Revenue: 3.66 bln vs 3.71 bln FB surpassed expectations, shares surged AH. EPS: 0.31 vs 0.27 Revenue: 2.59 bln vs. 2.35 bln This post has been edited by danmooncake: Jan 30 2014, 06:03 AM |
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Jan 30 2014, 10:49 PM
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Happy CNY!
GDP report is good, UE is slightly bad. So market up. Nothing for me tonight, just waiting here for Friday evening and see how it goes. I still think we will go down another level before settling in. Still too high of valuation. PE needs to be 11/12 for it to be cheap again. |
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Jan 31 2014, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(bfoot @ Jan 31 2014, 03:58 AM) It is the quantitative easing that is pumping the asset bubbles outside of USA. I *think* the first few things will happen when the fed stops the quantitative easing, the bubbles will burst -- slowly depends on the asset class. Financial markets are most liquid, it will go first. It will get to real estate eventually. If you think your million dollar properties can continue going up in price, think again. Thanks for sharing. 97/98 asia financial crisis? Don't remind me.. I was there working at forex desk, saw Ringgit dive to 2.50 to 4.5..Golly. Once Fed starts to raise interest rates, it will be ugly I think. I don't think it will happen that soon -- the earliest is likely end of 2014. Likely mid to end of 2015. Liquidity will disappear in emerging markets quickly unless interest rate is raised. If central bank decides to raise interest rates, all in the sudden your cheap loans are more expensive to service. Real estate price will come down. I don't think this will happen overtime -- but slowly. I have to admit that I'm biased against real estate. I witnessed what happened to my dad during the financial crisis in 97/98. At one point he has over 20 properties. He kept buying. He once told me if anything happens, he could sell a few properties to pay off all the loans if need to. When the crisis hit, he waited a few months and then started trying to sell a few properties. Nothing was moving at that time. He couldn't sell but at the same time he couldn't afford to service the debts. Banks are forcing the sales at super discount. Selling a few are not enough to pay back all the properties he owned. Eventually we lost ALL. Sorry for the grim story on CNY. Happy CNY. This is a grimm reminder to us that better not over leverage. I think this is unfortunately what is happening now in Malaysia. Property prices are soaring since the last 3-4 years and it is still going up as if it is the last piece of property that they will ever build. It will be really interesting to see how it will eventually come crashing back down to earth. When it hits, real estates price can come down pretty hard because no wants to buy and the loan payment have to continue - no matter what. The banks do not care..they just want their money back. |
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Jan 31 2014, 10:07 PM
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Feb 4 2014, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 4 2014, 01:29 AM) Yawn.. I'm still taking holiday mood here.. Hopefully, tomorrow HKSE opens, they get a big scare and another run down, cause futures to sell off again, we'll go to 1725 when US market opens again for Tues evening. I got guns powder ready to fire if 1725 comes in. |
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Feb 4 2014, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 4 2014, 09:58 PM) Could be.. I think it's going to stay around here until Friday jobs report.Decided to take a bite and get into AAPL trade again. Sold 495 PUTs. $500 looks like a good floor for it even with the market selling off, AAPL holding here. |
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Feb 4 2014, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Feb 4 2014, 11:17 PM) ya, the 500 support is damn strong. now they talk again the apple tv thing...sounded pretty good via services instead of just a boring hardware. brilliant. however, i'm still looking forward to your 1725 ground... Let see how Friday goes.. if Friday job numbers aren't good, we may get down to 1725 pretty quick but tonight, the shorts have to cover some, therefore we're higher and green but I don't expect it can reclaim back 1765-1770 (prior support, now resistance) tonight. |
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Feb 5 2014, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 5 2014, 04:31 PM) poor reviews on the global and asian markets. will there be a dropping bomb comes friday's non farm payroll report? Yes, Friday number is important. If bad, we'll likely see another leg down.i am clearing some stuffs now ... So far we got: Mon evening: Big Red day Tue evening: small bounce, green - short covering Wed evening: Will open red (but ADP numbers slightly better than expected) Thu evening: red/green? Fri: This one is important here.. The floor for SP500 at 1740 must hold by Friday otherwise.. whoosh! |
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Feb 6 2014, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 5 2014, 10:58 PM) serms like your sp 1725 a high possibility? just another 1-2% drop will be there. Trading is going to choppy during these time.the first houtbsaw volatile index at dows. it turns rednd green within minutes, by over 40 point. wow ... 1725 would be the initial target but not guarantee (daily) On the (40) weekly, 1700 would be the support (the big funds will step in and buy here). We're still at around 5% correction only. If you're holding long stocks higher than here, just hold 'em or sell your covered calls to reduce your average price.. |
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Feb 6 2014, 10:44 PM
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It wants to rally back up... market trying to find a reason, initial claims are good.
SP500 1765-1770 resistance area. |
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Feb 7 2014, 09:19 AM
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SP500 - 1773 - close above the resistance.
Wow.. what a surprise. I guess nobody wants to get short before Friday report. |
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Feb 7 2014, 09:45 PM
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Opps.. the job numbers came in less than expected.
Nonfarm - 113k vs 181k UE rate: 6.6 vs 6.7 Priv Payrolls: 142k vs 182k Dow futures immediately dropped 100 pts from earlier positive numbers. QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Feb 7 2014, 09:49 AM) Don.t u think the numbers are pretty ok despite the severe storms ? ...... Of course, they'll blame it on the weather.Or the storms can actually derail US economy to a recession aka slow economy ? |
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Feb 9 2014, 12:22 PM
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Feb 9 2014, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Feb 9 2014, 01:25 PM) SOX require external auditor to evaluate internal control of every company which cost a lot of money need to pay by company. Thus, it reduce profit of company. That is actually a GOOD thing and it didn't actually stop investors. Infact, US based investors are encouraged by SOX complaint companies. Again, only Public Listed Companies! The only type of companies are the entirely put off by SOX are those crooks and fraudulent companies which are scare of being audited because they got something to hide. Mikehwy is correct, this came about after Enron and Worldcom case because they inflated their books with various accounting tricks. Again, it did NOT stop people from investing in US but it did slow those CROOKs and pirate ships from cheating investors money. Nowadays, there were some of the so called China based companies who got delisted by US exchanges (Nasdaq/NYSE) because they have fail in their proper accounting controls and cheated many investors money. Some of them have to restate their incomes because they used accounting tricks that does not conform to GAAP or US standards. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Feb 9 2014, 09:35 PM |
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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Feb 9 2014, 11:42 PM) Yes for investor protection, but No for investor profit, especially for those mid-capital company. However, US standard is different to Malaysia and UK, not so sure how well the investor protection work. I'm confused by what you mean by Investor protection or investor profit. In business, there is no guarantee it will make profit. Whether the company makes money (Profit or Loss) is another matter. QUOTE(vincentxiang @ Feb 10 2014, 12:15 AM) Why it is NO for investor profit? The purpose of the established bill is to protect investor against manipulation of management from company to cheat investor's money. Pertaining to do invest in the US, your should well prepare to understand GAAP, ie how US system evaluate whether company make profit. It is just like when you play game monopoly, you are playing it while follow rule. Hope my little piece of advice would benefit you in investing USĀ Vincentxiang is spot on. The SOX law is to prevent and discourage unscrupulous public company from making false statement and do due diligence when reporting their income statement and just make sure they follow established accounting standards. They must report their accounting accurately (it doesn't matter they make or lose money).This post has been edited by danmooncake: Feb 10 2014, 12:37 AM |
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Feb 9 2014, 01:46 PM) wa wa....good economy good income for some, like me la. I think it may want to rain next week... all about different levels here.but honestly i see dark clouds in the sky....just wonder when will it rains...don play play All eyes on Yellen.. taper or no taper. If signs of continued taper.. growl.... bears will come out and play. |
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