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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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itekderp
post Sep 10 2014, 03:42 PM

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I do alignment frequently, it happens even after a trip to the workshop.
Strangely for higher bumps and dunes, it'll gain traction rapidly. But with sinking spots, it's as if the car depresses in one direction slightly then loses traction for a while. Any slight, sudden steering will cause a loss of control. In some ways, it feels like hitting an oil slick.
I can feel the instability at speeds as low as 50km/h for gentle bends. Braking seems to help, but it's quite shaky to steer across the bend without braking.

QUOTE(Kiefer @ Sep 10 2014, 08:35 AM)
ok.. uneven angles / soil sinking type.  This type of sinking nowadays a lot especially the place with MRT construction.

Such uneven patch, it will slightly off when one side of tyres goes in, but when you said loss traction, i am a bit surprise as only 5% incline/imbalance.

what is the speed you taking...? Have you check car alignment?
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post Sep 10 2014, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 10 2014, 03:42 PM)
I do alignment frequently, it happens even after a trip to the workshop.
Strangely for higher bumps and dunes, it'll gain traction rapidly. But with sinking spots, it's as if the car depresses in one direction slightly then loses traction for a while. Any slight, sudden steering will cause a loss of control. In some ways, it feels like hitting an oil slick.
I can feel the instability at speeds as low as 50km/h for gentle bends. Braking seems to help, but it's quite shaky to steer across the bend without braking.

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I am not sure about others.. .with 50km/h, i don't see any problem with my alza.
Seems like the front tyres not gripping good. How old is your car? have changed absorbers?
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post Sep 10 2014, 05:06 PM

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It's a 1st generation, since launch. I thought about suspension problems too, but haven't had a chance to check it. Was going to ask them to test on my previous visit, but they said nothing about it. Maybe I'll ask them to test properly again this upcoming service.
QUOTE(Kiefer @ Sep 10 2014, 05:03 PM)
I am not sure about others.. .with 50km/h, i don't see any problem with my alza.
Seems like the front tyres not gripping good.  How old is your car? have changed absorbers?
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post Sep 10 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 10 2014, 05:06 PM)
It's a 1st generation, since launch. I thought about suspension problems too, but haven't had a chance to check it. Was going to ask them to test on my previous visit, but they said nothing about it. Maybe I'll ask them to test properly again this upcoming service.
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get your suspensions check bro, shaky while you driving 50kph on gentle bend sounds severe, even myvi or iswara doesn't have this sort of issue. Perhaps check your tyre as well, does the tyre bloated? does the tyre deformed?
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post Sep 11 2014, 12:52 AM

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Anyone here know how to take off the cover around the gear and a/c knobs? Thinking of adding a LED light for the gear.. mine is 1st gen, no gear light =.=
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post Sep 11 2014, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 10 2014, 05:06 PM)
It's a 1st generation, since launch. I thought about suspension problems too, but haven't had a chance to check it. Was going to ask them to test on my previous visit, but they said nothing about it. Maybe I'll ask them to test properly again this upcoming service.
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Try to do some troubleshooting with your suspension. Push your car down with some force. If you can barely push it down, absorber is dead. If it bounce back very fast or continue to bounce after lifting your weight, you have a weak absorber. Test it on both front and back. Btw, I guess you did check your tires pressure where it is not over pressured.

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post Sep 11 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(tehdynasty @ Sep 11 2014, 12:52 AM)
Anyone here know how to take off the cover around the gear and a/c knobs? Thinking of adding a LED light for the gear.. mine is 1st gen, no gear light =.=
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Ya.. i added LED in that gear indicator too by DIY.

If I remembered correctly:
1. take out the glove box first.
2. use a plastic tool if have (else use a flat screwdriver with cloth) to ply open the panel from the side. then use a second 'stick' to hold the opening gap and move along the gap until it opens. It is a clip on.
3. you may need to take out the gear knob, there is a screw.

i use LED strip to stick inside, but if you can get a T10 to put in the existing hole, that would be better.

*i uses the plastic tool to ply open so it does not 'dent' the panel.
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post Sep 11 2014, 05:30 PM

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. Will do as suggested on my trip to service center next week.
How over is over-pressured BTW? I usually pump 34 as per suggested by Michelin, is it over?

QUOTE(therain01 @ Sep 11 2014, 01:26 AM)
Try to do some troubleshooting with your suspension. Push your car down with some force. If you can barely push it down, absorber is dead. If it bounce back very fast or continue to bounce after lifting your weight, you have a weak absorber. Test it on both front and back. Btw, I guess you did check your tires pressure where it is not over pressured.
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post Sep 11 2014, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Sep 11 2014, 01:30 PM)
Ya.. i added LED in that gear indicator too by DIY.

If I remembered correctly:
1. take out the glove box first.
2. use a plastic tool if have (else use a flat screwdriver with cloth) to ply open the panel from the side.  then use a second 'stick' to hold the opening gap and move along the gap until it opens.  It is a clip on.
3. you may need to take out the gear knob, there is a screw.

i use LED strip to stick inside, but if you can get a T10 to put in the existing hole, that would be better.

*i uses the plastic tool to ply open so it does not 'dent' the panel.
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IC...
Previously I tried to pry it, but scare there are some hidden screws... Now I know it's safe to pry it gently... thanks a lot smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 08:43 AM

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Guys. Is there any price/discount/freegift difference between buying Alza with online dealer & with Perodua showroom?

Is it a good time to buy now?
Kiefer
post Sep 12 2014, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 11 2014, 05:30 PM)
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Will do as suggested on my trip to service center next week.
How over is over-pressured BTW? I usually pump 34 as per suggested by Michelin, is it over?

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34 seems ok, but a bit hard for me. I pumped 32 front and 30 back (as only 1 kid sitting behind).Not sure about others.

You can do quick check yourself on the absobers. Push up down few times on each side and let go, see if it bounces many times. It should just bounce once and settle down in position.

also do note that alignment may be incorrect, eg. Toe in and toe out. if terbalik, it drives crazy.
Alza is toe-in as per the manual.


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post Sep 14 2014, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(teohjo @ Sep 12 2014, 08:43 AM)
Guys. Is there any price/discount/freegift difference between buying Alza with online dealer & with Perodua showroom?

Is it a good time to buy now?
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should be different i guess, you need to ask as it different from places to places....

regarding the timing question, if you wanna drive it for really long time like 10 years, buy it during year end, they will have discount for year end car.... else gotta check out any festive promo or low season discounts then...
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post Sep 14 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(99gloomy @ Aug 30 2014, 12:22 PM)
Hi Guys,

When you guys park your Alza and get down, do you hear some dripping noise? Sound like water drip on some thin metal? maybe exhaust pipe? It stop after a while, so i would think is the air cond water?

Any idea guys?

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its the exhaust pipe metal contraction sound, once you get down from the car.

the sounds like "tak tak tak tak tak" for few minutes until it cool down.

drive for another months, the sound should be gone then.


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post Sep 15 2014, 02:29 AM

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The user's manual shows Alza need 3.1L of engine oil for each change with filter. Any idea if it is accurate?
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post Sep 16 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Sep 15 2014, 02:29 AM)
The user's manual shows Alza need 3.1L of engine oil for each change with filter. Any idea if it is accurate?
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presumably is true, countercheck with oil dipstick then you will know.
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post Sep 17 2014, 11:14 AM

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anyone can help guide me with updating the perodua gps?
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post Sep 17 2014, 05:09 PM


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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 17 2014, 11:14 AM)
anyone can help guide me with updating the perodua gps?
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try alza official forum

me using external garmin gps
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post Sep 18 2014, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Sep 17 2014, 11:14 AM)
anyone can help guide me with updating the perodua gps?
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Not sure if this would help.
http://www.lokatoo.com/news-map-release-363-aug2014.asp
http://www.lokatoo.com/downloads-software-updates-step-1.asp

I was planning to update my map as well.
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post Sep 18 2014, 12:33 PM

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any1 mod the exhaust system for alza ?can share setting?
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post Sep 18 2014, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(alvinji87 @ Sep 18 2014, 12:33 PM)
any1 mod the exhaust system for alza ?can share setting?
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I just changed the extractor to Hotbits. The rest remained same.

Pick up better, but you can hear different note. Hotbits i installed is thinner on the material, i heard there is a better / thicker one which would silence that note.

Price... if not wrong as so long ago, RM200-RM250. installation fee is rm60.
I got from my neighbour as he opens a shop in PJ.

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