no,sparkplug need to purchase seperately.
[Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next
[Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next
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Sep 5 2014, 10:30 AM
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no,sparkplug need to purchase seperately.
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Sep 5 2014, 05:42 PM
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New here, haven't had time to read through this thread completely. But may I ask...
If any of you had trouble navigating uneven surfaces on your Alza? I found that it tends to cause loss of stability in mine, even after switching my tyres. As if there's a sudden loss of traction. |
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Sep 5 2014, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 5 2014, 05:42 PM) New here, haven't had time to read through this thread completely. But may I ask... alza generally lack of stability specially on uneven surface. Passengers on the back can clearly feel the horse ride.If any of you had trouble navigating uneven surfaces on your Alza? I found that it tends to cause loss of stability in mine, even after switching my tyres. As if there's a sudden loss of traction. |
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Sep 5 2014, 06:19 PM
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Is there any way to fix this? It seems very dangerous. I've tried going over a curved, uneven bend at 60km/h once, nearly crashed as the vehicle totally lost control. Never happened with my other cars even if going faster.
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Sep 5 2014, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 5 2014, 06:19 PM) Is there any way to fix this? It seems very dangerous. I've tried going over a curved, uneven bend at 60km/h once, nearly crashed as the vehicle totally lost control. Never happened with my other cars even if going faster. alza might be bumpy compared to other car but I haven't experience any lost control over it b4. Tried sent to SC? wait other Sifu here to answer this. |
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Sep 5 2014, 06:38 PM
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Yeah, thanks.
At first I thought it was an oil slick, but I've since confirmed it isn't. Quite worrying when you lose traction even when going slow. QUOTE(miraclejustin @ Sep 5 2014, 06:36 PM) |
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Sep 6 2014, 09:49 AM
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looking for someone who is passionate enough to be TS... me wan retired..
basically ma alza oledi jadi a transport car for my dispatch to torture & molest, and it still running and clocked closed to 100k km now.. pls reply here or pm me if you are serious to think to contribute to alza tered thanks |
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Sep 6 2014, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Sep 6 2014, 09:49 AM) looking for someone who is passionate enough to be TS... me wan retired.. Still a long way to go for V4... basically ma alza oledi jadi a transport car for my dispatch to torture & molest, and it still running and clocked closed to 100k km now.. pls reply here or pm me if you are serious to think to contribute to alza tered thanks |
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Sep 6 2014, 01:54 PM
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Sep 6 2014, 04:23 PM
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Sep 6 2014, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 5 2014, 05:42 PM) New here, haven't had time to read through this thread completely. But may I ask... First things first, are you still on stock tyres...?If any of you had trouble navigating uneven surfaces on your Alza? I found that it tends to cause loss of stability in mine, even after switching my tyres. As if there's a sudden loss of traction. |
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Sep 6 2014, 06:17 PM
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Sep 6 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 6 2014, 06:17 PM) No, tires were replaced with Michelin tires first chance I got. I guess we're in agreement that the stock tires are sort of crap. Secondly, Alza has a fat ass, and an overall tall body, tyres are too small to even makan on the road. Unless you pasang Michelin PS3 which may improve slightly. Even Michelin XM2, though better than stock, won't provide much traction at such speed on a curve, uneven bend... This is not a sedan which has lower center of gravity.Thirdly, Alza has no Electronic Stability Control, which sucks considering Alza is the top of the line Perodua model... Consider yourself lucky this time. Once you really lost control, it's bye bye... Welcome to your worst nightmare... |
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Sep 8 2014, 12:32 PM
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So basically Alza is fitted with wheels which are relatively imbalanced compared to the size, causing...physics to happen. I'm no engineer, but never thought of it since I figured for FF cars the center of gravity would be towards the front because of engine weight. But you might be right, from the side it does feel a bit odd given the tyre width and positioning.
How about suspension, is there any tweaks I can do to alleviate the handling? Seems like switching to "stickier" tyres quite a short-term response. QUOTE(Eithanius @ Sep 6 2014, 07:49 PM) Secondly, Alza has a fat ass, and an overall tall body, tyres are too small to even makan on the road. Unless you pasang Michelin PS3 which may improve slightly. Even Michelin XM2, though better than stock, won't provide much traction at such speed on a curve, uneven bend... This is not a sedan which has lower center of gravity. Thirdly, Alza has no Electronic Stability Control, which sucks considering Alza is the top of the line Perodua model... Consider yourself lucky this time. Once you really lost control, it's bye bye... Welcome to your worst nightmare... |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 8 2014, 12:32 PM) So basically Alza is fitted with wheels which are relatively imbalanced compared to the size, causing...physics to happen. I'm no engineer, but never thought of it since I figured for FF cars the center of gravity would be towards the front because of engine weight. But you might be right, from the side it does feel a bit odd given the tyre width and positioning. i search on google image "alza car bar handling". It shows various picture of fender bar and anti roll bar. not sure if it help.How about suspension, is there any tweaks I can do to alleviate the handling? Seems like switching to "stickier" tyres quite a short-term response. http://www.mudah.my/PERODUA+ALZA+ULTRA+RAC...ge-20811347.htm This post has been edited by miraclejustin: Sep 8 2014, 07:23 PM |
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Sep 9 2014, 05:34 AM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 5 2014, 05:42 PM) New here, haven't had time to read through this thread completely. But may I ask... Just wondering how is the "uneven surface". Do you mean the road is with moderate size holes which the whole contact point of front tire could sit in? Or do you mean the road is scattered with chip stone?If any of you had trouble navigating uneven surfaces on your Alza? I found that it tends to cause loss of stability in mine, even after switching my tyres. As if there's a sudden loss of traction. |
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Sep 9 2014, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 5 2014, 05:42 PM) New here, haven't had time to read through this thread completely. But may I ask... Maybe share the location of this road.. maybe got other Alzarian here passby there too.If any of you had trouble navigating uneven surfaces on your Alza? I found that it tends to cause loss of stability in mine, even after switching my tyres. As if there's a sudden loss of traction. as we can't imagine how bad is the uneven surfaces, and also when you said loss stability... |
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Sep 9 2014, 11:24 AM
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it could be badly patched road too
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Sep 10 2014, 12:29 AM
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It's not uneven as in holes or stones, more like what above poster noted. Badly patched roads which dips slightly, or roads with uneven "angles" due to soil sinking or such. Nothing much to set it off, just a slight (5% incline/decline?) imbalance on either tire will cause a loss of traction.
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Sep 10 2014, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Sep 10 2014, 12:29 AM) It's not uneven as in holes or stones, more like what above poster noted. Badly patched roads which dips slightly, or roads with uneven "angles" due to soil sinking or such. Nothing much to set it off, just a slight (5% incline/decline?) imbalance on either tire will cause a loss of traction. ok.. uneven angles / soil sinking type. This type of sinking nowadays a lot especially the place with MRT construction.Such uneven patch, it will slightly off when one side of tyres goes in, but when you said loss traction, i am a bit surprise as only 5% incline/imbalance. what is the speed you taking...? Have you check car alignment? |
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