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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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post Jun 30 2014, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jun 29 2014, 06:53 PM)
Budget solution: Can try install buffer, Perodua SC can do it for you but need to make order first before sending the car for installation.
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my personal opinion on buffer is ----> useless... your spring only stiff for a short period and the old feeling comes back.

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By the way, I know this is out of topic. But I believe Alza club member should see this, as I drove in Ipoh near by "Lou Wong Chicken Rice" restaurant area. There is a lot of so call "Parking Assistant Person" around that area giving you "assist" in your parking then they ask for RM5 - RM10 or more.

See below photo, there's a guy standing on the left of my car front wind screen? I was actually parked there then he walked to me and ask for money, of cause I refuse. He threaten to scratch my car if I do not pay up, so fine I reverse out and drove away, he actually pointed international finger at me, though my cheap car cam can't capture it clear enough.
the area is already well known of those parking assitant buggers, everytime i back to ipoh i will park other place instead of parking near there...
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post Jul 1 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 30 2014, 11:40 PM)
Too soft...?

I find it too hard for my liking... whack any potholes, feels like the car gonna rip apart... those stock absorbers ain't doing their work... If you've driven a Camry before, now that's soft...
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Can't compare apple to durian bro.
Bear in mind the suspension of alza is design to take the load from 1 passenger - 7passenger, hence the design operating window is comparatively wider than the camry suspension. assuming 70kg per pax, in camry your max load delta would be 280kg, and in alza you have the delta of 420kg. And alza is comparatively lighter than camry which make the suspension tweaking harder compared to camry. Don't forget the price you pay for the car as well.

The alza suspension is good when it's 2-4pax, it gets soft when it's fully loaded. it behave like 1st gen myvi when you throw in in the corner when fully loaded. That's my feeling on it.
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post Jul 2 2014, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 1 2014, 05:06 PM)
Undulating roads aside, the Alza is still shit with the absorbers not being able to handle potholes and randomly patched roadworks... I'm not talking about the sampan effect of the Alza... If you've driven an Alza and an MyVi despite being totally different segment of cars, you'll know they both have the same problem - harsh ride on potholes and patched roadworks. Somehow Perodua cars cannot handle these kinda bumps smoothly...

If you wanna talk about sampan effect, my old XV3x Camry even more floaty - that is the meaning of soft...

Alza can sapu corner better than my old Camry... But then again absorbers are still shit not becoz of sapu corners, but becoz of the absorbers not working the way it should be... Even my Jazz absorbers do better works than MyVi absorbers... Don't lecture me about comparing Apples and Durians... Jazz and MyVi belongs to the same category, the only thing that differentiates them is that stupid tax levied on foreign cars so they can stuff their local branded killing machines up our throats...
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undeniable perodua cars suspension setting wasn't on par. however, the suspension performance does relates to a more complex thingy like chasis stiffness, torsional rigidity sort of stuff... you may blast that i'm trying to lecture you but let me ask you a question, will myvi suspension behave like a jazz if you stuff in the same brand? My bet is the difference is still there.
Another good example is comparing the ride & handling of a saga (BLM/FL/FLX) vs vios, same segment but still different feeling, i would vote for saga for better ride and handling. Blame it on tax again? Cheer up bro, we just can't get best of both world. I bet everyone likes to have a car with good fuel economy, good suspension, good pick up, good top speed and yet cheapo, so do i. but too bad that the rule is, you want it, you pay for it. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 2 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jul 2 2014, 08:12 AM)
In either way it i, Car Mods Workshop is here in the market for a reason tongue.gif

I may consider installing Buffers despite its life span short / long, at least it helps reduce some impact on absorber.

And stupid KLIA2 car park = =, the Metal Hump so damn big some more they did not paint it in visible color, yesterday I just went through it without slowing down. Shit.
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ramp through a hump without slowing down = ouch.
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post Jul 3 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(alextee1881 @ Jul 3 2014, 05:22 PM)
New car atmost I can hit 8.9L/100km in KL.
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"at most" 8.9L/100km for a new car is consider very good FC (in KL).
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post Jul 4 2014, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(ERiKoChAn @ Jul 4 2014, 11:18 AM)
BHP? I using Caltex...thinking to change..Hmm...im not sure where I see that, saying all petrol 95 are same, and euro 3 does not affect alza engine.
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caltex is quite famous of giving good FC,
BHP is OK, FC not bad.
Petron, mixed review, some say powerful, some say sucks;
Shell, most people say sucks my personal opinion is it fits my house saga BLM, less knocking, FC wise not observe as Saga BLM FC wasn't worth to take a look (almost same as Alza);
Petronas, people says better compared to Shell, my personal opinion is the FC is more consistent compared to Petron meaning you will able to have a more precise feeling on how much distance you can go everytime you pump up.

I observe that everytime i change a brand, i.e i pump full tank petron, then i pump full tank shell when it gets empty, the FC wasn't that accurate, it will take another tank of fuel to give a better reading on FC. Maybe illusion tongue.gif
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post Jul 4 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(KIntos @ Jul 4 2014, 03:11 PM)
Alza sxi model use what bulb for fog lamp? H3 12v 55w?
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owners manual should have the info you need.
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post Jul 11 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(yonghong @ Jul 11 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hi bros. the noisy sound cleared following the ways Kiefer bro teached. I got one very newbie question, is the predicted "km" shown at the screen there can be trusted?
mean if it is showing 109km left, but the indicator of the petrol is blinking already, is it still can drive around 109km?
n also i find that my FC quite low, only 9.5km /Litre only. bt tat is immediately pump petrol after blinking.(still showing 100km left".
Thanks for answering my question. highly appreciated.thanks. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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it shouldn't be 109km left if it's blinking, my experience is the range is around 13x km for 2 bars, if i not mistaken the blinking starts when your tank have 5 litres left (it's applicable for 1st batch myvi and i bet alza is the same), assuming 5 liters left, the range shouldn't be that far (unless you are down hill during that time).
9.5km/litre or 9.5L/100km? either one is normal if you always in traffic jam, step hard kaki or very cold aircond setting.

Try do this, after refuel, off and switch on the power, the meter should have the updated range shown, try reset the L/100km portion, observe the range and the L/100km against the actual number, if it's verified that the meter is outrageously out, you may try to show to SC and see whether can it be replaced.
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post Jul 30 2014, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 29 2014, 09:03 PM)
how much sc charge for brake pad replacement WITHOUT brake bleeding ?

i was quote RM180

wonder what's the spec for "original" brake pad from p2 ?
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i saw it once it was like 120 or 130 per pair, so it makes the labour cost about RM50-60 then... however on the spec, no idea what brand of pad they use. i only know Saga BLM uses Mintye as their OEM pads.
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post Jul 30 2014, 01:47 AM

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i've done a trip down to KL (from PG) during raya, the FC was decent with 8.0L/100km in mixed driving (highway + traffic) with six pax and loaded with goods.
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post Jul 30 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Jul 30 2014, 09:05 AM)
I was towards Alor Setar on last Saturday morning (3am) and reaching there only 3pm !! it is jam pack and re-route using old trunk road (Slim River > Ipoh > Gerik > Baling > Gurun > Alor Setar).

I was stuck before Behrang, trying to go out to Behrang but jam at toll, so carried on till next exit (slim river)... that 15km lasted me 1.30 hours !!!  I should have exited Behrang.

Through the trunk road, I managed to clock 8.1L/100km. (3 person with 3 medium baggage only)
OTW back, via hiway, it clocked 7.8L/100km. (around 110kph)

Ok la.. will try to see best ways to improve FC. 
Ya.. have been trying many different brands since first ori pads.

The 2nd one is APM. Cost me RM120 and last less than 20,000km. 
Then 3rd one is proton's.. cost me about rm60-70, last less then 20,000km too.
Now on Paraut brand from Jpn, cost me RM70.. still testing.
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12 hours travel!!! on your FC, i think you a light footer bro. smile.gif

i wonder whether Bosch offers front pads for alza? I have it on my myvi, it looks good. RM120 per pair. I didn't slam it hard to see how much "hard braking" it last before the brake fades though. I don't dare to push the pads to the limit as myvi disk rotor is thin (easier to heat up) & prone to warp. I have a warped rotor last time and the steering jerks under braking when i going down hill.

I remember a few hard braking (say like 4-5 times; throttle, brake, throttle again, brake again) going downhill from gohtong jaya roundabout to karak highway on mintye pads (was driving Saga BLM manual) will have a brake fade (yet burn), let it cool down (by driving slowly) and the brake power comes back.
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post Jul 30 2014, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 30 2014, 06:37 PM)
wah,

rm120 for bosch brake pad for myvi?

include labor and brake bleeding ??

that price is for 3set already brows.gif

installed on my viva

downhill genting no stopping power at all, dangerous

it's meant for horizontal road gentle use only
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yea, that's right, incl labor. no bake bleeding, just some bleed out the fluid when they push back the caliper piston back to original position. good thing about the bosch pads doesn't as dusty as ori pads, and it bites.

i think those ori pads are meant for gentle driving, can't afford to push hard....
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post Jul 31 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 30 2014, 11:27 PM)
nope.

bosch brake pad does not bites.

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even road hard braking also less power.

now using brembo brake pad, haven test downhill power.

but best brake pad with gooding price ratio will be Trestor Advantage Plus ( Blue Pad )

You can expect IMMEDIATE stopping power.

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hmmm.... that's interesting on your viva. smile.gif at least mine feels better than the stock pads. My girl is driving Myvi SE auto (with stock pads), some time i need to step hard to get the brake bite, done bleeding but the symptom comes back intermittent. Hmmm... give it a braided brake hose should solve the problem.... hehe... icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(faizal87 @ Aug 9 2014, 09:40 AM)
just notice this morning..how to claim waranty?llumar tinted alza 2014
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pay a visit to llumar shop near you, you have the warranty booklet for the tint film for sure, get a llumar shop nearest to you. P2 SC will not entertain you.
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post Aug 11 2014, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(stevensteady @ Aug 10 2014, 01:15 PM)
Actually its an offer by my friend to me.. Is it the price OK? Never accident before tho.. What to look after for second hand car buying process?
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should be like normal car buying process (difference would be you buying it from owner instead of salesman), since the mileage is that high, you better prepare some money in your pocket for some wear & tear parts replacement, e.g brake pads, rotor, maybe prepare yourself for O2 sensor (alza have 2 if not mistaken), i had my myvi o2 sensor kaput when the mileage around 90K km. do some preventive maintenance like change the brake fluid, power steering fluid, coolant replacement, compressor oil change (these if you not sure that the previous owner had done that and you cherish your car, if you plan to buy and sell it after 2 years then you may forget about the preventive maintenance) smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(howiseveryone @ Aug 14 2014, 11:49 AM)
hi owners. I am considering to get Alza Advance. I've been "googling" the past few weeks for an updated review on 2014 version of Alza Advance but can't really find find what I want. Hope it's not too off topic to post this here.

I would like to find out on the sound insulation especially for the roof. I read in many forums/review/blogs that the roof sounds like a zinc roof when driving under rain. Does anyone here own a 2014 Alza Advance (or any 2014 Alza) and can you advise if the sound insulation(especially the roof) is still the same - not any better?

Hope someone can reply on my question. Thanks in advance.
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never been in an pre FL alza before in heavy rain before, but my dad's alza FL roof wasn't any difference from my myvi. The logic is that, you buying the same thing with a lower price, do you expect you get more insulation (that increase the material cost)? probably you may consider to self insulate the roof, i doubt even they give you more insulation it will meet your expectation either. Agree?
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post Aug 14 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Miaovin_cat @ Aug 14 2014, 01:30 PM)
Roof rain is in acceptable level better than previous gen. Insulators are added in 2014 Alza.
What you worry better focus on tyre first. My Alza se 10k mileage f***er silverstone M5 130kmh steering shake after rotation and balancing. Get ur self a better set of this noob tyre pls. Thank you.
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could be bloated tyre (minor bloating), my brother kena on his saga BLM before, bloated front tyre. yea, the noob synergy M series tyre. you going 130kmh for an alza, bet the car a bit shaky then.
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post Aug 14 2014, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Aug 14 2014, 01:44 PM)
130kph on killer tyres...?  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  ph34r.gif
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he's got balls of steel.....
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post Aug 15 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Atsutane-Shirane @ Aug 15 2014, 08:06 PM)
This might sound silly... My SA told me new Alza don't come with the system "When u brake, the door lock"...

It's surprise me since my 7yr old myvi have from the day 1...

So the question is... Is it true..?
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that's right, new car nowadays doesn't come with auto lock when braking. reason was crap: "autolock prevent the rescuer from opening the door when you meet accident". honestly i don't get the logic of it, if a driver manually lock the door and met an accident, still the door is locked. right?

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post Aug 19 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(miraclejustin @ Aug 19 2014, 03:42 PM)
hi everyone. My car is 2 years old and ready for 40k service.
What services and parts do you guys change when doing 40k service?
I go the center myself and get quote price from perodua.
see picture below. The total cost is around RM600. I think that is too much. I'm planning to go service outside, which one on the list do you think not necessary to change?

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is ATF filter change necessary at the mileage of 40k km? i don't have the owners manual with me now so i can't be sure whether it's need to be change as early as 40k km. what is B cleaner? if you wanna make your car reliable, service per the recommended interval, like the brake bleeding. If you feels that your brake fluid colour "looks allright" and no bubbling issue, maybe you can get it replace next year?

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