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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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post Mar 23 2015, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(ChelseaFan @ Mar 23 2015, 12:19 AM)
Is it advisible to change to 16" rims?
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bigger rims will make your pick up become even worse. if you always low load and travel a lot on highway, it's ok. However, the suspension gonna take extra penalty, could be potentially shorter life span.

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post Mar 24 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Mar 24 2015, 02:20 AM)
Alza abs cost around rm600 at p2 sc. My alza front abs k.o around 85k km and change to proride....proride last only 15k km. At 100k km,  i change all 4 to stock abs including front abs mounting eventhough abs mounting and rear abs still good.

I dont think stock alza suspension feel harsh at all, still on soft side. Pro ride feel a bit firm
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rm600 for whole set? well, alza suspension is more towards soft side as it mean for comfort (in fact OEM suspension setting are set to softer for comfort), else, you gonna have a bumpy jumping car when you drive alone. my 9 yrs myvi had a KO'ed front abs, i haven't change it still, just a bit nasty when going through bump (dives down easier). biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Mar 24 2015, 07:40 AM)
Is it all the vibration and noise make you feel like metro bus. Noise, Vibration Harshness and Ride Handling are different aspect.  I didn't say alza suspension is good, i said soft.

Before this i own satria neo and my other van is german origin,  offcourse i know what is good suspension setup wink.gif
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perodua cars are never famous of their suspension setup. They give you a sedate feeling in terms of ride handling. Wanna get a good feel of ride and handling and your pocket is not deep enough, go for Persona / Gen2 if you aiming for passenger car. pick up sucks but the ride and handling worth the price.

Yea, german cars are quite good in terms of their suspension setup, i remember an article comparing vios, almera, city and Polo sedan ride and handling during emergency maneuver i.e zig zag movement. Polo sedan rank 2nd in the test as City ranks 1st with minor difference (due to VSA equipped while Polo Sedan is kosong).
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post Mar 24 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Mar 24 2015, 04:31 PM)
Yup...around rm600 for all 4 but not include absorber mounting and labour charges. Last time labour charges not more than rm100 (forgot already)
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price worthy! outside mechanic quote me rm400 for front abs and rm180 for rear (that was for myvi).
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post Mar 24 2015, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(tankx3 @ Mar 24 2015, 04:40 PM)
Just to share my fuel consumption for my first long distance during chinese new year..
mileage 2000+-30km (JB Penang ipoh Pantai taiping sitiawan JB)
petrol consumed 139.14litres
FC = 6.957L/100km
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what's your average speed bro? 5 passenger?
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post Mar 26 2015, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Mar 24 2015, 11:09 PM)
Absorber price ok la but front brake pad price...crazy..+-rm170 ha ha. Go spare part shop...ori rm60....mintye rm48...bought ori. After open box...ori also mintye different only got p2 logo ha ha...make me poor rm12
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dun play play... i think the price difference is due to the pad material. i drove a saga BLM which uses Mintye pads (with Proton logo on it as well), purposely tried the brake pad performance under continuous braking from gohtong jaya towards karak highway (downhill), slam the brakes when going down hill, guess what, brake fade!!! Have to slow down, wait for the rotor to cool down a bit, and the brake force comes back again. Stop by petrol station to have a check on the brake, a bit smelly, but no obvious discoloration on the rotor (where you get to see some colours on the rotor if it's overheated). hence my personal feeling on mintye pads wasn't very good.
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post Mar 30 2015, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Malaysian_driver @ Mar 30 2015, 08:59 PM)
Hi guys, I am a new owner of a standard manual Alza.  Everything with the car is OK except the gear shift gives off a strong vibration all the time.  It is not visible to th naked eye but when I hold the gear knob, I can feel the vibration.  Is this normal?
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if you use the word strong and you mean it, my advise is take it for a check at sc. my 9 yrs old myvi manual doesn't have strong vibration on the gear shifter albeit i able to feel the vibration when i slightly playing the the clutch during the freeplay distance (there's a slight freeplay before the clutch pedal engage any movement on the clutch pad)
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post Apr 1 2015, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ewe_chai @ Apr 1 2015, 10:56 AM)
advertisement gimmick on this cyclone product.  I oso did purchase "neo shark " device. It's kind of device at lighter port. However, it seem take mire FC
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unless you messing around with the sensors, else you can't get a significant improvement by using this cyclone thingy. about voltage stabiliser, i'm not sure how much it helps but again, i personally don't think the impact going to be significant if you are just a typical driver. cool2.gif


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post Apr 1 2015, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ Apr 1 2015, 04:07 PM)
But if this thingy can make consume more petrol, sure got other thingy that can save petrol. Just that trial and error more time and money consuming ha ha
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sure you have, if you have a deep pocket, a piggyback ECU that override the AF ratio setting, make your air fuel ratio towards lean side. and that saves fuel. the draw back is you going to have more sluggish pick up as it disturbs the torque curve. If you have a shallow pocket and some electronic knowledge, disturb the O2 sensor signal by using resistor.
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post Apr 3 2015, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(tankx3 @ Apr 2 2015, 11:44 PM)
As mentioned before in post #1440,
Average on highway is 110~120.
sitiawan~Ipoh~taiping~pantai is oldway,
so maybe is 80~100.
The two hill part at Ipoh highway can't drive too fast =_='' ~80
Is the FC OK?
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FC is good
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post Apr 6 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(fattchai @ Apr 5 2015, 05:51 PM)
I actually need both space and traveling.. Haha..

Myvi boot is too small for me, I like to put alot thing in my car..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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yea... you can't expect an MPV class vehicle to perform like a hatchback. smile.gif there's always gain & loss when you make a choice. i would say alza is quite a decent choice if you wanna get a versatile vehicle. You can consider exora if alza doesn't satisfies you (i assume your budget only cater for P1 / P2 MPV).

Good thing about exora (turbo) compared to alza
more spacious
more stability during high speed
better handling
more spirited drive
more comfort (rear passenger got their aircond)

Bad thing about exora compared to alza
bad fuel consumption especially during city drive
the feeling on the brand
it use timing belt
cvt box
bulky
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post Apr 11 2015, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(richnet @ Apr 11 2015, 03:10 PM)
Just wondering whether can we install auto-cruise on Alza?
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unlikely coz alza is not drive by wire, nor having any e throttle mechanism. unless you decide to do something to the throttle control mechanism
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post May 6 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(tankx3 @ May 3 2015, 07:20 PM)
Jimmy, next time can u at least attach a alza photo as proof?
always see myvi accident and wira breakdown. Any reason?
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i kinda puzzle on jimmy's statement as well.... so far i only know alza terbakar for twice (that was on the news type)

given myvi & wira is the best seller for so many years, more over wiras are already aging (and some really early batch of myvis as well), so it's not hard to observe myvi and wira breakdown. if you say always see lotus car breakdown, that a news. brows.gif
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post May 11 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jackiecck @ May 11 2015, 02:37 PM)
I notice that every single light of my car will goes dim slightly when the radiator fan starts everytime. Is that normal coz Alza's original small battery or is it my battery defected? I just collected my car 2 weeks ago.
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if plainly radiator fan i think it's not so obvious.it's more obvious when the aircond compressor kicks in. Conclusion is: It's normal. smile.gif
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post May 12 2015, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jackiecck @ May 11 2015, 04:24 PM)
But why this doesn't happens on myvi & viva? Hopefully perodua will review on it to make sure the battery supplied is good enough for the whole car. sweat.gif

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u r welcome bro.

strangely my myvi is having this problem as well, it's more obvious when the aircond compressor kicks in. anyway, this myvi girl still running well, it's her 9 years this year. and the battery replacement interval is normal as well (approx 2 years)

well, back to your point, to manufacturer, cost is everything, if you wanna have a circuitary that doesn't dim a while when aircond kicks in, either you change the aircond clutch to a lower power ones (that gives you an even hotter aircond since perodua aircond is not so cold adi), or you bump up the cables size and the power rating (not guarantee to solve the problem but it will reduce the symptom). And this increase the cost a lot.
Imagine you have a main water pipe (main trunk cable) supplying water to all the pipes (electronics stuffs, injectors, sensor, fan, light etc), when you switch on the largest pipe (the aircond), the other pipe will surely feel the drop in pressure the moment the big water pipe opens. The same happens when you switch on dome light and starting engine, the dome light dims. I think perodua will try many ways to save cost so we gotta bear with it (unless we wanna pay more for non dim lights during aircond kicks in) laugh.gif
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post May 13 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(NLCH880215 @ May 13 2015, 01:08 PM)
What i mean is put one of the grounding cable near the fuse box area.. so maybe the cable will help return the grounding more faster, if not mistaken there is one original cable connected over there but the cable is very small, if not mistaken last time my kelisa also face this problem after a accident my friend help me to ground a cable to the alternator then the no more very serious dimming and engine vibration
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some people using welding cable to replace the stock ones. and they proclaim the engine less noisy. and the dimming problem got improved. probably they are right as the welding cable provide a bigger channel for the grounding current to flow. Imagine highway traffic and kampung road traffic. hehe....
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post May 19 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(JJKTP @ May 19 2015, 03:00 PM)
NEW ALZA CHECKLIST

Hope any of you guys here could advise me on what need to be checked when i collect my Alza. Thank you in advance.
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usually the salesman will go through a checklist with you, go through it one by one and dun let the slaesman go through then sign without checking through it, pick a shady place (guess you dun wanna got sun tanned for inspecting your car)

i share you what i do...
1. check all lights and switches
2. check wiper functionality (wipe & spray)
3. mirror functionality check
4. test central lock
5. cosmetic check, scratches, dent, paint chip offs
6. my 2014 SE still using the old style aircond hose, they miss out the hose, i heard new batch no need use the hose anymore but they stick a metal sticker on the steering rack instead.

so far this is my experience....
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post May 20 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(cleaner @ May 19 2015, 06:37 PM)
My 2012 alza also using metal sticker at steering rack
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kinda surprise, 2014 Alza FL don't have metal sticker on it (at least mie doesn't come with sticker) and the aircond condensate is directly dripping on the steering rack.
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post May 20 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Jackiecck @ May 20 2015, 03:11 PM)
Hi Guys,

Do u all notice that water drips from the rubber seal on to the top of the battery when after heavy rain or car wash. Please check on your car coz it may cause short circuit once the +ve -ve terminals are wet.[attachmentid=4454976]
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that a good heads up! but i do believe the probability for such thing to happen is kinda low or near to zero unless you use a pressurized hose and blast on the windscreen continuously. coz usually (my personal thoughts) hardly the water able to line up on top of the battery forming a connection between the terminals as your terminal should be oily (as the SC replace the terminal protector when you service your car which is oily)
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post May 21 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Jackiecck @ May 20 2015, 04:42 PM)
Didn't use any pressurized hose. I encounter it twice that my car was parking at open carpark under heavy rain. Once I checked after the rain stop I can barely see the water is dripping from that area and the battery top was almost 70% wet since the rubber is only fixed by clips instead of weather seal glue. To all Alzarian please take caution.

I agreed that the water could hardly form a connection in between the terminals but there is possibility could cause fire.
Btw, I had diy a water resistant cover for the battery.

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thanks, i will check mine when i have the chance, or i try to spray water on it continuously using garden hose and see the outcome, i just worried your case is "independent" as the rubber seal might "ngam ngam" defect at that spot (what a coincident!)

The DIY cover a brilliant idea. Just watch out if you using wet battery, the vapor gonna eat up the plastic material.

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