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bengang13
post Sep 12 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 11 2014, 11:57 AM)
Any one use sharp before? the 1.0hp looks cheap below 800 w/o installation.
For 2.0 non inverter which one is the best bet? I need simple and cheap.
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with plasma or w/o? where you got your quote from? i am also considerign between hitachi and sharp
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post Sep 12 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 12 2014, 11:46 AM)
is standard type. You may refer to jintexelectronics website for the pricing. What I know Sharp is made in Thailand. Daikin also made in thai but high end type if not mistaken is in OYL Malaysia.
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the website dont have the basic 1hp

i am looking for sharp 1hp,1.5hp and 2.5hp with plasma cluster.

my current house here have Daikin, Hitachi, Samsung and Panasonic. want to try something new. or maybe revert back to Hitachi.
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post Sep 13 2014, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Sep 13 2014, 12:16 AM)
Daikin is the best right?
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To be honest I rarely on daikin coz it's at my 3rd room. One year maybe once or twice. But i don't like pana. Best among that four is hitachi. It's been with me for 7-8 years and still going strong. I am using it everyday in my materbed room.
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post Oct 3 2014, 05:27 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 1 2014, 10:32 AM)
I can only comment on their inverter range.

I have used 1.0hp inverter with plasmacluster in my old place for kids room. Compressor still ok after 4 years.
I now use 2.0hp and 2.5hp inverter. The 2.0hp has comparatively lighter outdoor compressor (35kg) since it's made of Aluminium. Cooling wise ok and can track current wattage (in n.n kW) when cooling for both 2.0/2.5hp.

Positive points
a. Plasmacluster function in an AC
b. Gentle Cool (Coanda effect) mode - pushes air upwards 10-15 degrees above horizontal. Most competitors upward slat mode rarely go less than 10 degrees BELOW the horizontal which still makes the occupant feels to cold.
c. Clean mode - very low maintenance in terms of cleaning apart from filter. It dries the internal blower and drainage area preventing mould built-up in that area. Since day 1, my AC technician says it didn't need a chemical wash every time he comes for maintenance as I always use this mode after a night of sleep.
d. Price - it's slightly cheaper than the rest of the competitor's inverter pack.
e. Low wattage mode - 1.5/2.0/2.5hp has 2 step low wattage modes and 1.0hp has 1 step. Basically eco-mode.
f. Sleep mode - there's no button but it's activated when Off timer is set. Alternates on-off for comfortable cooling while sleeping. Rarely use since the longest sleeping occupant is my 1yo. But it works like other AC brand sleep modes.

Points a and b combined provides clean air envelope of cool without adversely affecting elderly and children too much. The 1.0hp I have used with great effect that combined with 1-2 speed ceiling fan and AC set to 28 degree Celsius on AUTO fan setting. This provides a comfortable cool envelope that is not too drying to the skin and more importantly the lungs -- too dry a room causes the lung to dehydrate faster and leads to asthma in a short period if not remediated esp for very small children and elderly adults.

In the dining area, Gentle Cool pushes air 10-15 degree above the horizontal so that the dishes don't go cold that fast, yet the occupants is cooled by the envelope.

There are other innovations which biomimics (adapts features from the animal or plant kingdom) esp seagull and dragonfly for which Sharp won awards for esp in terms of indoor air circulation efficiency and lower outdoor compressor RPM to achieve the same cooling range etc. Our mileage varies on that but to me the main five points above esp the first three is a win for me.

Negative points
a. Not as quiet - 2.0/2.5 about 30db or in that range when quiet but since I did not intend it for bedroom use I find it ok. 1.0hp is about 27dB when quiet or temp reach pre-set range and compressor cuts off. OK for my kids since street noise is higher so no diff.
b. 1.0-2.5hp inverter units have no left-right auto-swing. 1.0-1.5hp expected not to have but nowadays MHI and Samsung at the least differentiate from other 1.0hp by having left-right auto-swing in addition to up-down auto-swing. The surprise was to see that even 2.0 and 2.5hp doesn't have this feature. Not a deterrence to my usage as cooling zone spread is fixed.
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thanks for your feedback.. am planning to get a 2.5,1.5 and 1hp Sharp but the standard type...
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post Oct 26 2014, 10:30 PM

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My parents Sanyo last for 15-20 years still using.
I have samsung, daikin, hitachi, and pana all in the same house. Plant to change all to sharps my next house any one got experience?
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post Oct 26 2014, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 26 2014, 11:09 PM)
Sanyo? 15-20 years already? Even it is still working, it will be like draining your electric(not efficient at all) bill.
Sharp? Ok gua I guess, but is best that you check the consumption(W and A) before deciding.
Not to mention service center, is it near by your place?
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That i have not checked. I assume it's everywhere lor. Lol anyway touch wood so far all my Aircond never have any issue
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post Oct 27 2014, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 26 2014, 11:54 PM)
It depends greatly how we use it, if trashing like no tomorrow, it will fail faster.
When the air cond still have warranty, I'll trash it(but electric bill will kill me) and if that is not owned by me also I'll trash it and see will it sustain. But not all brands can sustain sweat.gif
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Like you said how many Aircond can last this long. These days home appliances got lots of electronics.

QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 27 2014, 05:24 AM)
I got hitachi in 1st DC inverter 1hp fan coil unit of PCB failed within 3.5 yrs, so for me even Japan technology just so so, unlike Supersound bro said, must buy sushi, unlike kimchi won't last longer.

But I never change the PCB already whole unit Aircon I switch to MitsubishiElectric starmex already rclxms.gif

Sanyo Aircon is a good brand before, I guess it everywhere has rusted & plastic become powder already.
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I am of the opinion that at times it's all boils down to luck. So long as the product does not have any inherent problem. Traditionally japan better but Korean has come a long way. I as lo got samsung air cond so far so good.
The reason I am choosing sharp coz it's the cheapest. That's the only reason
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post Oct 27 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 27 2014, 08:16 AM)
Sharp don't have any Ads for thier products, even has new faces & items you got no idea for sharp products.

Sharp is more or less better than some brands.
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Thanks for your insight. To me Aircond is just Aircond. I guess I am more price conscious than brand conscious and sharp is a good balance of both.

QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 27 2014, 08:39 AM)
Indeed yes, but still ask opinion from sellers(3-4 shops) and service centers that service multiple brands. In Seremban, Ritak is the only service center that service Samsung, Philips, Toshiba, Pioneer. I sometimes have to buy parts from them(repairing my old Pioneer player), Samsung's appliances always in their shop while other Japs seldom. Ask them also they will say Samsung tends to fail faster during warranty period shocking.gif Again this can't really be a benchmark since you may think this is isolated case. But when I buy parts from Panasonic SC, air cond failure are the least comparing to other appliances(LED TV the most)
For me, buying Japs brand are for peace of mind while buying Kimchi brands are gambling my luck, so far my gambling luck sucks, so I won't gamble.
For electronic parts, it can fail faster can high maintenance cost. Like a donkey years ago Sony CRT TV I only need rm200 to repair a circuit board(lightning strike) but a Sony 47" LCD need rm3+++ to change the circuit board, due to IC leg are too near(can't be changed)
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I thought after 1 year warranty most ppl will just call outside technician to service or repair the aircod. My cirrent house has 4 Aircond of different brand. So this time thought of streamlining it. Will be getting 6 new unit since there is not much discussion on sharp thought of asking here instead to get a general consensus on it.
Talking about japan brand, my pana LCD tv of 3-4 years just died on me whereas my bro and dad toshiba which is older than mine is still going strong. So I guess it really depends on luck. Will probably get a Philips since it the cheapest with the most feature.
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post Oct 27 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 27 2014, 12:29 PM)
If you we're compare from Pana side by side to samsung color more rich n sharper than others.
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Yeah Samsung is the leader in LCD led I guess. But I see Philips not bad. 40in led with USB that support rmvb just around rm1200 with 3 hd I and antenna input too.

QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 27 2014, 12:32 PM)
For inverter models with IC board fail, outside tech can do?
Sharp is ok what? They are still in the market means their product are not bad.
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Inverter donno lah but it doesn't Appel to me since I am not a heavy user. My bed room in general 2-3 hours per day. Living room and study rarely use. Second room daikin only on like twice a year.
So yeah sharp strike the balance between branding and price. Thanks for your input
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post Oct 27 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 27 2014, 01:13 PM)
I have no comment for them, which one more expansive then go for that one smile.gif

Later ppl come to scold me rclxms.gif
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I will compare the spec then choose the cheaper one. I just don't get the 4,5,6,7 series thingy. Then that's just me
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post Oct 27 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Oct 27 2014, 01:37 PM)
the sharp outdoor unit is using full aluminium flat tube "cooling coil" (don't know what it is called  sweat.gif ) which is claimed to be more durable and efficient, but no unit available around me to try out  unsure.gif
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The high end one or across the board?
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post Oct 27 2014, 02:55 PM

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Anyone knows where to buy cheap sharp Aircond? The only place offering cheap is jintex so far. Not to be cheapskate but buying a lot of can actually save up a lot. Thanks
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post Oct 27 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Oct 27 2014, 03:45 PM)
The most is you get a deal on installations.
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Hmm I only want unit leh. Coz installation by my main con
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post Oct 27 2014, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Alan @ Oct 27 2014, 04:03 PM)
last time i was quoted rm13xx for sharp inveter + plasma cluster 1 hp.
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Try lazada. Sometimes git good deal

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