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post Feb 24 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 24 2014, 01:08 PM)
Agree. Mitsubishi have a best easy clean aircon. Specially the blower side. Why others brand can't design something like Mitsubishi?  hmm.gif

It take time to dismantle the flip and clean the blower. Difficult to reach the blower also. 

I will get the Mitsubishi aircon for my next change.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 24 2014, 02:34 PM)
hmm... called the dealer... all quoted rm1650 much more expensive than daikin and york... i mean the 1HP Mitsubishi inverter
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Should be there. 2yrs indoor and 10 yrs outdoor warranty Leh
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 24 2014, 01:39 PM)
Wah.. This simple easy cleaning also ME trademark liau?
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Can sue if they found same design
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post Feb 24 2014, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 24 2014, 05:35 PM)
panasonic then,
i do comparision between EER for few brand below already
Hitachi 12.80
Panasonic 12.56
Daikin 12.14
York 11.66
Mitsubishi 11.08
which means hitachi more electric saving (assuming all used in same condition and hour and etc)
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Hitachi DC inverter at my home got 2 units, so far so good.

Even high ceiling at 5.5m for my middle room, still can Keep cold, but only used with 25C lol.

Just slightly noisy to compare for ME inverter at 19db only.

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QUOTE(mnibar @ Feb 24 2014, 05:02 PM)
sharp and panasonic any good ? my place limited option for other brands
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Not really sure for this 2 brands so far.
Can ask some user here to inputs some detailed.

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post Feb 25 2014, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 24 2014, 05:35 PM)
panasonic then,
i do comparision between EER for few brand below already
Hitachi 12.80
Panasonic 12.56
Daikin 12.14
York 11.66
Mitsubishi 11.08
which means hitachi more electric saving (assuming all used in same condition and hour and etc)
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Share for you tip on Daikin FTKD model was used R22 gas only would not faster cooling like R410A model as FTKS.

Don't buy wrong, below sample for R22 gas only.
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post Feb 25 2014, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 25 2014, 05:03 PM)
Wooohooo.. installed my 1st air cond brand Daikin R410a !! lolz...
the compressor damn big... bigger than Panasonic which my neighbour have it...
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Got photos?

Hope you can feedback, lower temp setting and how cold it has.

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Feb 25 2014, 06:26 PM)
oh i see, it will indicate to tell u to replace filter?
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So far hitachi DC inverter will turn on yellow light to indicated remove filter and wash.

Sharp should be nice right also got built in Plasmacuster.
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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Feb 25 2014, 07:09 PM)
I think it has nothing to do with the gas. It just that daikin preset their unit to start the outdoor unit a few seconds late than the indoor unit. Once the outdoor unit start to kickin, the cooling is instantanous. Wonder why?
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Not sure visit my friend house his one were R22 inverter really not cold like R410A, nothing to comment.

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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Feb 26 2014, 08:54 AM)
bro freestyler

how come the numbers are different?
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lol look like he did, old specs vs current rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 26 2014, 09:32 AM)
dude it suppose to be different what... what kind of question u asked ? =.=
go read SEER rating.. and how to calculate
huh? dont understand u..
i tested yesterday night... with 25 degree... comfortable level.. dont owned a R22 before so i dont know R22 cooler or R410a
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R22 most common setting for 22-23C
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 26 2014, 09:44 AM)
My neighbor all using Daikin R22 inverter, Her living room are cold, and running everyday.Visit her house during Deepavali with lots of guest.
R22 or R410A nothing to do cold or not, it maybe a faulty on the A/C, nothing to do with the gas.
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How explain from R410A would be more high pressure ?
Usually high pressure can reach more faster right.

Once reached more faster = more efficient than R22, should effected the overall cooling operate system to be slower down.

Nothing wrong with AC.

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 26 2014, 09:57 AM)
oh my bad... actually i do 2 time of calculation

as u know inverter there are variable power / btu output..
the 1st one i calculate using the MAX power
and for the 2nd i calculate at the spec btu output..
to make it clear example as below:-

Daikin 1 HP R410a

btu/h 8,500 (4,100 - 10,900)
power consumption 0.70 (0.30 - 1.05)
1st calculation 10,900 divide by 1050Watt = 10.38 EER
2nd calculation 8500 divide by 700Watt =12.14 EER

so this is how i calculate.. i estimate the maximum and the recommended btu/h to see which 1 is the most high EER =)
thus power saving  icon_rolleyes.gif
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My experience same as you before.

When saw the ME inverter really lower BTU as 8530 std specs and never impressive then when to hitachi DC inverter for my 2 rooms.

Finally choice for ME inverter for my master bedroom,
But BTU @ 8530 Only, never expected can be more impressive than Hitachi DC inverter as 9700 BTU for 1hp inverter.

Sometime may mention on specs via real life is different expected.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 26 2014, 10:08 AM)
np glad to help haha...

by the way, who using R410a Daikin 1 HP?

kinda confuse with the function

1) the Dry Mode... what its for? means like normal fan only without cooling?
2) the mould proof function.. how to use it?
and daikin compressor damn big man.. lolz
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Big is not an issue, just worried is smaller but noisy blower too

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 26 2014, 10:40 AM)
well, for the 1st time user the only thing can compare is through the spec... i wish can test run all the brand in my room for a week before purchase... HAHAHAH !
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Good job for you.
Did you ask installer how to remove drain plate and clean out by own or blower?
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 26 2014, 10:55 AM)
err shit..i didnt ask that... by the way what is drain plate?
i know how to remove the filter to clean..
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Drain plate to be collected water from fan coil to the drain and discharge into pipe.
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QUOTE(jssl @ Feb 26 2014, 11:51 AM)
Anyone know what is air-con pump?
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Pump = compressor right?

What brand and model?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 26 2014, 11:50 AM)
High pressure does not mean good. R410A need to be operate at higher pressure because of the gas nature. The older R11 & R12 are much more better gas to use in term of efficiency but not environment and the it run same pressure like R22 (If my remember correctly). How efficiency also depend on how the liquid/gas transfer heat.

Just like olden day, the brake pads are so much better, last longer and cheaper when Asbestos are use to made pad, but due to environment and health hazard is ban, and not a good brake pad either need metalic compound or it finish up fast.
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Ok to be wait and see how survive on next few yrs of R22 last.
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QUOTE(jssl @ Feb 26 2014, 12:31 PM)
Due to my condo layout, my air-con guys said each of the air-con need to attach with a small pump,
so the drip water is 'powerful' and route to balcony from master room
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Got layout plan?

Please show here, also quote from others installer and see how.

Take note, once the suction pump break down and all food.

my house for living + bedroom all going to toilet. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 26 2014, 04:54 PM)
after i read through the installation manual i found out my installer didnt do 1 thing... in the manual mention the Liquid and Gas Pipe should be separately insulate , but my installer insulate it together...

T_T
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lol... you are slow.. rclxm9.gif

since they charge you lower installation fee then to be combine into one.

unless they mention for separate insulation and higher cost coverall with huge trunking. hmm.gif


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