most times either under/over spec or filter/blower dirty or gas leakage. other causes could br inferior quality gas pipes. even my old daikin r22 suffered from gas leak that it auto shut down. error code showed it as so and an inspection showed that it burst 1ft from compressor. those with compressors that can pump very high vertically esp 2hp and over should get very sturdy pipes.

No such thing lah, nowadays all those installer Aircon man's was learn more smarter than buyer.. Who dunno gas an expansive, they will do 1 thing in proper job or rather than they wanna refill gas for more expansive than they earning installer fee.

Did you guy see it, how hard they earned.





How heavy of the outdoor unit when they carry out from the window.





If they cheated, I dun think they want come back again

What is wrong of my post, never mention about gas leaks at all...

No point lah... Anyway got warranty.. Even they want cheat me I also got little knowledge on how to install Aircon before.

Even my tool box at home now still got gas meter, screw pipe & nuts with cutting copper tool.

How can one tell Panasonic are bad with only experience from that one unit in hotel room?  Does that one unit represent the entire Panasonic A/C product? Is that unit maintain properly? had it install properly? and service?

Gas leak can come from many factor, not only the copper pipe alone.  Join area, connector between the copper pipe to the compressor / condenser. All this are possible.

I am using Panasonic inverter since 2011 Dec, I have to refill gas after 5+ month of using because the gas was empty, first refill after my installer/contractor find no sign of leak from the piping, we suspect was the condenser leaking which is impossible to fix without replacement, I had it refill FOC of course. And just before the warranty expired the gas empty again, I call up Panasonic for warranty claim, and they send a technician over to check. He confirm everything was find, and found micro leak is on the copper coupling/connection between the outdoor compressor and copper pipe.  Kind enough he refill foc for me, and I call up my original installer, he change the coupling/connector. After that no empty gas issue. Is been working find, and I had it service every 1+ year.

So this is Panasonic issue or installation issue?

I also using York, Sharp in my house, all also cold and no problem.

My neighbor using Daikin,  just after 6 months install, every time she switch it on the compressor so noisy, I know because is just beside my toilet. After I told her she call up Daikin and came service, found bee hive inside, after clean up  till now is ok and silent. So this one is Daikin problem?

My contractor OK la, all the gas refill and checking and redo never charge me a single cent, even 1 year after install.

Because is still under warranty he advice get Panasonic technician to check, already told me if anything related to his workmanship is free. He may not have the perfect workmanship, as long acknowledge and fix it back is already good for me.

If same guy comes back the third time, think it's better to get someone else. Anyway, weikee did right by getting a second opinion and his contractor was at least honest. Also, can't expect everything to be gotten right the first time since everyone has different level of workmanship. Sometimes not the main guy but his worker not as good as his sifu.

Hear hear! Wah bro, seems like you'd gone through your fair share of pain in getting it right. Thanks for sharing that insight.

well as for ac, i benchmark mine differently though. Inverter would normally cost 30-50% higher than non-inverter model of same HP. The difference btw the inverter and non-inverter price is what I would get my ROI by the savings realized through the tarriff rates avoided. Means if non-inverter AC uses 240 units a month but inverter is half of that, I save the average monthly unit cost of 120 units. I could take the highest bracket just to cheat but averaging it is conservative. Don't know if that makes sense or pass your logic gate (ie my logic fail by your standards  ) But wow how come the shop guy chose 21 degree? Cannot tahan if it's even at 26 at night. For that the hygrometer records about 60-65% humidity range bordering on dry range.

Bro now already 2014 once you leave in town you won't feels that natural air is fresh already,, how dusty they are.

Suck more natural can be cough cancer faster.
Unless you stay in kampung or higher mountain such as Cameron

Guys, currently im using LG 1hp aircond. got 2 units in my house.. but i think, one unit kong already. i think the compressor need to change coz when i on aircond, the air is not cool. even after the services the compressor. plus the compressor will sound noisy when switched on the acond.

What wud be the cost to replace the compressor or is it wise to buy new whole set of acond? if it is more economical to replace the compresor, wht wud be the range of price i shud consider reasonble?

Guys do you get what's an called wind noise?

Panasonic & hitachi got it such higher wind noise = you drove a car crashed over 120km/h = wind noise.

Why choose other? Like Mitsubishi electric else, cause don't have wind noise and just for normal air flow noise only

Hi All, Anyone know where to get remote control for panasonic econavi series? my 2 remote control spoilt after only 2 years   

Confirm is remote control spoilt as I have 4 units of similar brand. Change battery but to not avail. Does any electrical shop selling the remote control and need to go back to Manufacturer?

You still dun understand what is call wind noise vs normal air flow noise, if you beside me then I test for you.

He he

I'm in KL area. Do you know which electrical shops are willing to take order? Last time, I went to couple of elecrical shop they don't have the spare remote control and not willing to take order as well.  They informed to go back to Panasonic for the remote control. My Aircond  is CS-C18MKH series.

Ha ha why so worried... I just talk with real life only, when sleeping time, if the blower too close to your ear distance then that is not healthy for disturb your sweet dream only...  I thought they have over 20 yrs design for home applicants should be much much better than other brands, but today they still remain unchanged and changed the casing cover only..

From what I said that's ever worst than York noisy & value brand.. He he

How about samsung? I haven test my

Offtopic abit

Haven't followed the topic from the start..

What happened between kimsim & supersound? You guys don't seem to get along well 

The lowest noisy is daikin

Your experience is not his experience. Your experience only for you, his experience for him and rest of the world.

omg , u sure samsung Aircond compressor will vibrating very hard?