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halcyon27
post Aug 5 2014, 03:23 PM

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Mitsubishi has new inverter 1.0 and 1.5HP. MSZ-FH25/35 here. I called Melco and was told it cost almost 4K. blink.gif The COP and input W is impressive though bringing down the annual consumption to 940kWh and 1480kWh which is leagues better than what's in the market.

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post Aug 5 2014, 11:34 PM

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Planning to install new unit a/c..try to get inverter 1hp..any brands recomended..do far my eyez only see hitachi and ME...any other brand for inverter type..

Any recommendations///
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post Aug 6 2014, 12:18 AM

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Dear all,
just got my house key. would like to ask some question here. hope u all can help smile.gif

1. how many HP shall i install in the room respectively?

2. for my living room (g) and dinning hall (h), shall i install 2 units of aircon there or only one unit in living room will do? pls advice me on the HP for each option.

3. room (c ), (d), (h) will be left empty for next 3 to 5 years (nobody will be staying for time being). shall i install the aircon first or install 3 years later?? y?

4. i plan to install all inverter unit. ok ma?

5. the brand in my mind now is mitsubishi electric. izit ok to install all ME in all the rooms/area?

thanks in advance smile.gif

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post Aug 6 2014, 05:24 AM

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QUOTE(ada7914 @ Aug 5 2014, 11:34 PM)
Planning to install new unit a/c..try to get inverter 1hp..any brands recomended..do far my eyez only see hitachi and ME...any other brand for inverter type..

Any recommendations///
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I got one unit hitachi inverter 1hp internal PCB spoil within 4 yrs only... So far hitachi for me not really durable and can't easy wash inside the fan blower also smile.gif
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QUOTE(miss mandy @ Aug 6 2014, 12:18 AM)
Dear all,
just got my house key. would like to ask some question here. hope u all can help  smile.gif

1. how many HP shall i install in the room respectively?

2. for my living room (g) and dinning hall (h), shall i install 2 units of aircon there or only one unit in living room will do? pls advice me on the HP for each option.

3. room (c ), (d), (h) will be left empty for next 3 to 5 years (nobody will be staying for time being). shall i install the aircon first or install 3 years later?? y?

4. i plan to install all inverter unit. ok ma?

5. the brand in my mind now is mitsubishi electric. izit ok to install all ME in all the rooms/area?

thanks in advance  smile.gif
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Ground floor except the Living hall can be consider of ceiling type or wall mounted of 2.5hp and the rest on 1hp only.

For 2nd floor bedroom can install for 1.0hp x3 bedroom and family hall need 1hp and excepted room A for 1.5hp only

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Aug 5 2014, 03:23 PM)
Mitsubishi has new inverter 1.0 and 1.5HP. MSZ-FH25/35 here. I called Melco and was told it cost almost 4K.  blink.gif The COP and input W is impressive though bringing down the annual consumption to 940kWh and 1480kWh which is leagues better than what's in the market.
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Yap lucky I had done all my Aircon were ME inverter, if early launched on FH models, I would try to install them.

He he not so soon will be plan to install system 3 ME inverter for my s'pore hdb flat unit smile.gif
ada7914
post Aug 6 2014, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 6 2014, 05:24 AM)
I got one unit hitachi inverter 1hp internal PCB spoil within 4 yrs only... So far hitachi for me not really durable and can't easy wash inside the fan blower also smile.gif
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thanks bro for the feedback icon_rolleyes.gif ...pana also not gud as my fren happen to have problem so he switch to hitachi..YORK is out of topic for me..samsung not dare to try..ME since u say so far worth to pay from previous previous pages back..hehe...so any other else..
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post Aug 6 2014, 09:58 AM

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Went air-cond shopping last weekend for new house. Information overload. So need expert advise from sifus here...

Since most of the units will be used infrequently, our current plan is

3 x 1HP non-inverter for rooms
1 x 1.5HP inverter for the masterbedroom.
1 x 2.5HP non-inverter for living room
(may add 1 x 1HP for dining area)

Going inverter will incur extra costs : higher price, wiring cost and installation cost (~RM350+300+100 per unit) blink.gif

Most likely will take combination of Mitsu E and/or Pana.
OK or not?

Salesman recommend for the 2.5HP unit in living room to use Carrier.
More powerful and better energy savings.
Carrier is mainly an 'office' type aircon. Will that be too powerful, noisy etc? Anybody got experience?
Fazab
post Aug 6 2014, 10:04 AM

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Also a number of shops (e.g. SHG) are actively promoting the latest Samsung :

Low wattage - 690W for 1HP/9000 BTU. 4 stars energy rating
Claims savings of 31% energy even without inverter. No inverter = less installation and maintenance issues.
Bigger airflow
Self washing - got function to use condensate water to automatically wash the blower unit blink.gif
Nicest design, sleek, stylish.
Average price for 1HP = RM1200 all in. blink.gif

Pay a bit more and got WiFi control.
You can switch on the aircon to cool your room down when you start driving home from work......

Dare to try? sweat.gif
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post Aug 6 2014, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Fazab @ Aug 6 2014, 10:04 AM)
Also a number of shops (e.g. SHG) are actively promoting the latest Samsung :

Low wattage -  690W for 1HP/9000 BTU.  4 stars energy rating
Claims savings of 31% energy even without inverter. No inverter = less installation and maintenance issues.
Bigger airflow
Self washing - got function to use condensate water to automatically wash the blower unit  blink.gif
Nicest design, sleek, stylish.
Average price for 1HP = RM1200 all in.  blink.gif

Pay a bit more and got WiFi control.
You can switch on the aircon to cool your room down when you start driving home from work......

Dare to try?  sweat.gif
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Seem gud but have anyone try out samsung...
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QUOTE(Fazab @ Aug 6 2014, 10:04 AM)
Also a number of shops (e.g. SHG) are actively promoting the latest Samsung :

Low wattage -  690W for 1HP/9000 BTU.  4 stars energy rating
Claims savings of 31% energy even without inverter. No inverter = less installation and maintenance issues.
Bigger airflow
Self washing - got function to use condensate water to automatically wash the blower unit  blink.gif
Nicest design, sleek, stylish.
Average price for 1HP = RM1200 all in.  blink.gif

Pay a bit more and got WiFi control.
You can switch on the aircon to cool your room down when you start driving home from work......

Dare to try?  sweat.gif
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If you have no budget an issue, please go for fully inverter unit, there's is maintenance free so far from my inverter units has been used for 4 yrs plus now, never spend any cent on maintenance..

I knew I had save a lots TNB bill for every months, also inverter Aircon not used set too low temperature to suit room condition and minimum set to 25C really feel like non-inverter from 22C at all.

My body skill won't be too dry smile.gif

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post Aug 6 2014, 03:23 PM

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My family seldom use air cond. Mainly for really hot days only. Calculated and don't think can recoup the upfront cost in 5 years. My current TNB bill, (house got 4 x 1 HP air conds) ~RM160.

Aiyah. I wanted to ask question but inadvertently end up advertising for Samsung. tongue.gif

So,
is Carrier OK for living hall, or so I just stick to the usual brands? Opinions?
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post Aug 6 2014, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 6 2014, 01:08 PM)
If you have no budget an issue, please go for fully inverter unit, there's is maintenance free so far from my inverter units has been used for 4 yrs plus now, never spend any cent on maintenance..

I knew I had save a lots TNB bill for every months, also inverter Aircon not used set too low temperature to suit room condition and minimum set to 25C really feel like non-inverter from 22C at all.

My body skill won't be too dry smile.gif
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gud point...bro kim @ anyone..juz want a rough figure how much cost to install inverter installation cost not include a/c cost..piping wudbe less than 10ft...wiring already done..just want to survey so that can bargain..thx
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post Aug 7 2014, 12:04 PM

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Hello guys,

Need help. Just got keys to my new place and planning to put aircond in the master room first since need lot money for other furniture sweat.gif

How much hp do you think my master bedroom needs since it's quite wide. My initial thought is to go with 1.5hp but fret that might overuse the aircond to cool down the room. Not sure how to calculate the BTU etc. rclxub.gif

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Also, is inverter advisable? icon_question.gif Talked to an aircond technician and he didnt recommend inverter since a lot of complaint on it. A lot of customers call up for repair. So doesnt think it's worth the extra money to pay plus higher installation fee sumore.

Planning to go for either Daikin or mitsubishi since highly recommended thumbup.gif by him and some of the forumers here.

Thanks guys!
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post Aug 7 2014, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(akmalarif @ Aug 7 2014, 12:04 PM)
Hello guys,

Need help. Just got keys to my new place and planning to put aircond in the master room first since need lot money for other furniture sweat.gif

How much hp do you think my master bedroom needs since it's quite wide. My initial thought is to go with 1.5hp but fret that might overuse the aircond to cool down the room. Not sure how to calculate the BTU etc.  rclxub.gif

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Also, is inverter advisable?  icon_question.gif  Talked to an aircond technician and he didnt recommend inverter since a lot of complaint on it. A lot of customers call up for repair. So doesnt think it's worth the extra money to pay plus higher installation fee sumore.

Planning to go for either Daikin or mitsubishi since highly recommended  thumbup.gif  by him and some of the forumers here.

Thanks guys!
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For my rectangular open layout (living+dining+kitchen), measuring approximately 4.3m x 9.3m, I'm using only one 1.5HP unit. Still sufficient to cool the air.

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post Aug 7 2014, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(davkong @ Aug 7 2014, 12:16 PM)
For my rectangular open layout (living+dining+kitchen), measuring approximately 4.3m x 9.3m, I'm using only one 1.5HP unit. Still sufficient to cool the air.
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Really? That's even bigger than my master bedroom. Might opt for 1.5hp then hmm.gif Save money brows.gif

Mind sharing which brand u r currently using? Also, inverter? Really a headache to decide which brand to go for since too many brands and features available.

Thank you man!
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post Aug 7 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(akmalarif @ Aug 7 2014, 12:22 PM)
Really? That's even bigger than my master bedroom. Might opt for 1.5hp then  hmm.gif  Save money  brows.gif

Mind sharing which brand u r currently using? Also, inverter? Really a headache to decide which brand to go for since too many brands and features available.

Thank you man!
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You can refer to this chart to plan the a/c required. I'm using Mitsubishi Mr. Slim with isensor 1.5HP, non-inverter, the BTU is about 12000 IIRC.

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=room..._properly_sized
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QUOTE(davkong @ Aug 7 2014, 12:27 PM)
You can refer to this chart to plan the a/c required. I'm using Mitsubishi Mr. Slim with isensor 1.5HP, non-inverter, the BTU is about 12000 IIRC.

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=room..._properly_sized
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That's a good share! notworthy.gif

Thanks a lot dude! thumbup.gif
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post Aug 7 2014, 12:37 PM

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The technician shared his ranking of air cond brand.

1. Daikin
2. Mitsubishi
3. York

How do you guys think the spare part problem for each of this brand?
Heard that daikin is hard to get spare part if got problem. But looking at its website, quite sophisticated with a lot of features for their air cond.
Just my opinion here.
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QUOTE(akmalarif @ Aug 7 2014, 12:37 PM)
The technician shared his ranking of air cond brand.

1. Daikin
2. Mitsubishi
3. York

How do you guys think the spare part problem for each of this brand?
Heard that daikin is hard to get spare part if got problem. But looking at its website, quite sophisticated with a lot of features for their air cond.
Just my opinion here.
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Why do compare so much?

York = noisy n not suitable for residential
Daikin like BMW spare parts an expansive
Mitsubishi Electric is the best for easy clean access n also faster cooling

Also Daikin & York is belong one company and share parts, but their design not allow for remove the drain pan, if the blower at drain outlet has been stuck or dripping water.

How to do? Must be remove out the gas cooper pipe for whole blower take out and remove the fan coil fins out, just able to access to empty the dirty jelly dust on the drain pan.

Unlike ME or Panasonic can be easy way to remove out for service by owner n without Aircon man needed

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