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quovadis123
post Dec 10 2013, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Powet @ Dec 10 2013, 02:19 AM)
hmm, then dun go ba, wait until i got mood to TKL enough biggrin.gif dont too rush for full size  nod.gif
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I saw there are 2 trader in LYN selling new Filco 104 (Full Size) for around RM369.
Not bad since normal price stated still >RM400.
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post Dec 10 2013, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(Powet @ Dec 10 2013, 02:32 AM)
actually i kena brother diao liao  doh.gif ask me dun so mafan just stay with this  1 enough, so i  listen beh, nxt time aim keycap customize or TKL mkb liao  brows.gif
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You can always choose to stay with the same layout full-size.
TKL or 60% just preferences of people.
For my thinking, full layout is more keys, suitable for gaming since can map alot of macros.
For 60% layout, really a good productivity keyboard.
But, everyone will hope to get better keyboard. biggrin.gif

If you visit this thread daily, I believed you can't tahan the poison for very long time.
Sure will change to Filco soon. laugh.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 10 2013, 02:01 AM)
Once you go smaller keyboard route...you won't go back to fullsize anytime soon...

p/s: started with TKL, now Poker 2....Full size keyboard all collecting dust....the ergnomics of smaller keyboard makes mouse tracking a doodle...even though I don't need to move my mouse coz I use a tracking ball mouse.... laugh.gif
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In your siggy, I only saw TKL Filco.
Ya, I agreed with you about the smaller layout keyboard is better, since, for me, keyboard mainly used for typing.
But, currently I think the standard layout, the "\" key still far from my pinky finger. Still not convenience to type on.
Not ergo enough.
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post Dec 10 2013, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(Powet @ Dec 10 2013, 03:10 AM)
hmm, might get filco keyboard as my target after next year spm, but sure not now  rclxub.gif  next year maybe play bit keycaps thing only, after that then start rotting for MKB le  tongue.gif
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You should study hard for your next year spm.
Sometime, your spm determine your future path and mkb path too. whistling.gif
Buy when you need it.
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post Dec 10 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Dec 10 2013, 08:06 AM)
Got generalize term? I'm looking for a stand that can mount 3 full size headphone. laugh.gif
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3 fullsize headphone? haha
So much.. I believed each one also more expensive than a mechanical keyboard. drool.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 01:58 PM

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Baru know, moogle kit d founder from Malaysia. notworthy.gif

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post Dec 10 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(hamdanchiuyanyehh @ Dec 10 2013, 03:02 PM)
Is tat have significant influence with different stabiliser?
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This is Cherry Stabiliser

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Costar Stabiliser

My ducky shine is cherry and filco is costar.
Personally, I think costar able to make my spacebar feel more even if I'm using those custom keycaps.
Cherry stabiliser feel like custom spacebar is tilted.
Problematic keycaps able to fit nicely on my costar stabilisers. rclxms.gif

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post Dec 10 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(hooh888 @ Dec 10 2013, 03:28 PM)
i was trying to ask if the various switches have difference in terms of durability.
true but i like the loud sound so maybe blue or green, and black is like a pure gamer kind of switch from what i managed to understand at first page. i am not much of a gamer, but i do type a lot.
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Regarding durability, it's the same.
Each kind of cherry switches have lifespan of 50 millions operation life cycles.

You can try blue and see. I believed it is quite tiring to type on green.
I managed to type blue during morning, noon.
During night, my fingers already reached fatigue level, then I will type using MX brown keyboard because lighter a little. sad.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(hooh888 @ Dec 10 2013, 03:39 PM)
ah i see, guess i will try blue.
i see, thanks for the info.
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You should try all the 4 mainstream cherry switches and topre switches and make you decision which to buy.

Personally, what MX blue good for typist because, when pressed down it sounds "clicky" when the key registered.
My fingers muscles responds to the sounds and I know whether the key is been pressed or not.
p/s: My typing style is touch typing, so never see the keyboard, sometime really no see screen too.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mmxo7d4qbb707gs/2...%2011.51.35.jpg
This is my current MX blue keyboard.

For MX brown, i personally think is a very great switch, very very nice to type on. Never feel tired or reach fatigue if type on MX Brown.
Only 1 flaw, I'm not 100% sure whether I really type correctly, my fingers muscle not able to respond accurately due to non-clicky sounds on MX Brown.
Just my 2cents.

Recommendation: brown or blue or mx clear, if you are programmer/software developer/web/writer
If Engineer, cincai choose 1 (doesn't matter)

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post Dec 10 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 10 2013, 04:05 PM)
mx brown is NON clicky, but has tactile feedback.

It makes a clack sound when you bottom out (which i tend to do, because i'm that sort of a typer). But if you press lightly without bottoming out, the sound can come under control somewhat.

the only feedback to know you actuated a key, is either if you bottom out, or you feel the key push back (with a bump feedback) when you push down. So it's very hard to miss typing a key when pressing on it.

tactile is very beneficial especially for the soft typists that hardly bottom out.
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Somehow, my muscles listen to clicky sounds biggrin.gif
Both of my keyboard is tactile (brown, blue), with addition blue is clicky.
I personally like brown because of its lighter switches.
If blue is lighter then is better. smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(hooh888 @ Dec 10 2013, 04:06 PM)
gotcha, intended to try every switch i can find to begin with anyways. and i also do touch typing, eyes stuck on the screen when you have limited time but tons of code to type.
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in the future, try to use text expander app or program to boost your productivity.
Remap your keyboard layout to your needs too will helps. i.e. qwerty/colemak/dvorak variants or other variants type of layout
example, I remapped my backspace to caplock, escape to backquote and many many more.
Looking for people with great keyboard layout can share with me, the optimum and best productivity layout. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(hooh888 @ Dec 10 2013, 04:26 PM)
oh so that's why when i played o2jam long time ago i managed only 6 keys at a time, and back then i thought ALL keyboards were like that haha. thanks for the info.  biggrin.gif
never heard of that, thus never thought of it, will try doing that too, thanks.  biggrin.gif
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Text Expander example software. In fact, there are some program already adapt to this features.
Make your coding easier. Hope it will helps for your future too. biggrin.gif
What language you normally code on?
objective-c? html? php? python?
edit: Text editor like sublime text have built-in text expander.

With the help of mechanical keyboard, I personally experienced that the productivity is boost as much as twice.
To me, mechanical keyboard is a must for people always type rclxms.gif

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post Dec 10 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 10 2013, 04:45 PM)
i will say don't be too serious with the rated 50M durability things. It can be just some marketing claim. B4 this, blue switch is actually rated at 20M, but as time progress or not sure what reason, they simply decide to call it 50M just like other switches did.

The main reason we gone mechanical are not necessary the durability (if you are unlucky, even just from store keyboard can have some faulty/failed switches). It is for the consistency in the typing feel in long term. Rubber dome tend to degrade within a few months of usage, while mechanical switches can easily last for few years (again, like I stated, some of the switches might die prematurely).

When a switch die, we have the option to DIY and repair it instead of send it to RMA or dump the whole board.
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Great info. What you said is probably true.
Tactile is sure lower in the life cycle 20m whereas non-tactile is 50m.
From what I know, the switches will finally fail due to fatigue failure.
Few methods can fasten the process, that is, you always type (stress on it), seldom let the switches rest. So, it will failed prematurely.
If seldom type, will able to reach life cycle of 20m and above.

p/s: experience from my own fyp, "Finite Element Analysis and Fatigue Failure of steel"

edit: the beauty of mechanical keyboard is, we're able to change the switches individually if broken rclxms.gif

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post Dec 10 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 10 2013, 05:14 PM)
And also fine tune them to our likings.
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What things on the keyboard can we fine tune? for better typing experience
- lube spring, stabilizers
- keycaps
- casing
My knowledge is limited. Anything miss out?
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post Dec 10 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Powet @ Dec 10 2013, 05:22 PM)
I'm pretty rich in MKB knowledge today  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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hooh888 I used to have same keyboard with you, AK300  biggrin.gif  joined this thread on oct2013 until Black Friday sales only grab my first MKB blue switches, I'm dota2&csgo player, and also a typing kaki, pretty comfort with blue switches (except noisy part  doh.gif ) GL on getting your MKB biggrin.gif
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If really too noisy, then put o-rings a.k.a silencer on keycaps biggrin.gif
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I think the MX Blue "clicky" sounds nice to listen laugh.gif
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post Dec 11 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(yuka @ Dec 10 2013, 11:51 PM)
Anyone here can fix my friend's Razer Blackwidow Ultimate?
Problem is the key trigger randomly (all range F5, shift, numbers, characters, etc), all driver detect and the LED's working fine.
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Can you try it on other computer and do not install synapse driver on it? Wondering the result is..
Normally is from driver itself. Honestly said, razer driver software really bad quality mad.gif vmad.gif .
If still occur, you download software like autokey and disabled those keys that triggering.
If the triggering keys jump randomly to other keys, then let us know.

Please see this thread. Same as yours I think.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/123495...-keys-by-itself

p/s: Razer Mamba user here biggrin.gif Used many of the Razer products before..
Personally, I think Razer really rubbish if I stand on neutral sides.

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post Dec 11 2013, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 11 2013, 12:32 AM)
Keycool murah ker?

Is it feasible to get a keycool and play2 with it? (mod diff switches on every row, play2 with soldering and what not)
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ur idea is great..
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Just like this.. different weight on different fingers.
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post Dec 11 2013, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 11 2013, 12:45 AM)
I was thinking putting the blacks in the middle then brown then red for the pinky...top F-rows and Modifier sides all put blues...
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Ur middle just put red. Since black and red feel similar except the heavier spring of black.
brown got tactile feel.. rclxms.gif
Recently see this idea very nice.
Or use green and blue. laugh.gif

You change ur Filco middle to tacto-blacks (MX brown with black spring). brows.gif

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post Dec 11 2013, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(antonio @ Dec 11 2013, 01:05 AM)
Middle put heavier because stronger finger area...the pinky needs lesser force to ease while pressing...maybe just black middle n red outside...the numbers n numpad use brown while F-row n modifiers use blue click click.... brows.gif
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Then modifier use Clear, spacebar use Green and White on escape.
Seems like ducky78, all switches also got.

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post Dec 11 2013, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 11 2013, 01:17 AM)
If want play with that much, better get PCB mounted board, easier to change the stem.
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Is there any pcb mounted keyboard that are TKL or 60%? Any recommended?

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