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Bubble Ring
post May 19 2014, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(psyntium @ May 18 2014, 01:42 PM)
hi guys,

need ur help.. i just bought this door bell @ houz depot.. but confused with the wiring.. i have Red + Black + 2x White wire from the wall.. I know that the white wires are for the switch, and red and black wires for the power.. but how should I wire it to the door bell.. no proper instruction is attached with the door bell package..  sad.gif

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Thanks!!
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No need to worry about the L vs. N connection.
No specific orientation, just ensure the AC 240V connected to the input of the step down transformer.
Refer to this post for further details. biggrin.gif

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Bubble Ring
post May 19 2014, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(N73 @ May 19 2014, 12:35 AM)
just found out I bought the wrong door bell Schneider Model 99AC220 with 2 wirings after read thru this forum. Haiz waste of money oredy. Does anyone know where can I get the Schneider door bell with 4 wirings? Please share here.
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If you compare the doorbell owned by psyntium vs. sw.boutique, the two are entirely different design.
However, the doorbell with two wires design still backward compatible with existing wiring (4 wires type).
It's just a matter of connections. For further assist, post the picture of the doorbell. wink.gif
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post May 19 2014, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(psyntium @ May 19 2014, 12:57 PM)
oh tqtq.. thanks for the guidance!.. managed to get it work now.. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(N73 @ Jun 2 2014, 12:59 AM)
I managed to take the photo of the door bell internal as per attached.
Please help to confirm whether I can use it for double storey house in return. If not any way to make the modification?
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Here you go... biggrin.gif
Conversion from 4-wires type to 2-wires type doorbell.
No major modification needed. Just add one terminal block connector. thumbup.gif

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Please take note of this type of doorbell design weakness!
If your doorbell switch located at outdoor and exposed to rain water, make sure you use the outdoor rated switch.
Non-outdoor rated switch will give you headache due to short circuit caused by water. rclxub.gif
Short circuit will lead to nuisance MCB tripping. vmad.gif
Bubble Ring
post Jun 2 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 2 2014, 10:21 PM)
Please don't do this kind of wiring, can kill the person pressing it when wet.
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Yup, warning already given about the potential short circuit hazard!
That's the reason why there's a another variant design with step-down transformer. nod.gif
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post Jun 2 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 2 2014, 11:20 PM)
I have a feeling this may not be an outdoor design door bell, or not made for Malaysia market.
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Pros and cons... unsure.gif

Transformerless: Simple, reliable and low-cost. Suitable for indoor application like apartment.
Step-down transformer: Safer due to transformer isolation. However, the system always on standby mode and consume electricity.


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post Jun 7 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(N73 @ Jun 3 2014, 10:56 PM)
Yup, this door bell I actually bought from Thailand. I buy this door bell mainly of the brand name and sound i like BUT very unfortunately you guy mentioned this is not suitable for outdoor. If u go to Schneider Malaysia website you may found they sell the weatherproof door bell switch BUT just cannot find this door bell sell in their Malaysia website.
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I found this outdoor enclosure box for doorbell switch at lelong.com.my. biggrin.gif
If you really like it, just go ahead install your doorbell. Ensure proper weather sealing for the switch.

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post Jul 7 2014, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(N73 @ Jul 7 2014, 04:02 PM)
Anyone knows how to modify the two wired door bell to four wired door please share. I was thinking to add step down transformer BUT don't know how to connect the wiring diagram. Appreciate ant sifu can help here.
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You can't add step-down transformer to a doorbell system that required AC 240V as input power source.
Just buy the weatherproof switch to solve your problem. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(N73 @ Jul 7 2014, 11:59 PM)
How about a step down transformer plus a relay? Will it work?
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Since you like and desperate for that doorbell.
Here you go... brows.gif

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Referring to above schematic:
● The doorbell switching done by AC relay.
● Relay energized by step-down transformer power supply.
● Outdoor switch running on low AC voltage.
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post Jul 13 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(N73 @ Jul 13 2014, 01:20 AM)
Thanks for your schematic diagram.
As far as I know the 230v AC to 12v AC step down transformer is small enough to keep in the door bell box. BUT how about the AC relay? does it small enough to keep inside the door bell as well. I heard the AC relay need power supply, is it true?
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Relay need power supply to energize the magnetic coil.
I think the transformer and relay can be fit into the casing. biggrin.gif

Could you remove the small black plastic cover and provide me the picture of the circuit?
If you refer to first post (two-wires type) by TS, you can see the circuit of the unit.
I have another idea to modify the circuit to let the switch run on low voltage. brows.gif

 

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