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Waltz_168
post Oct 25 2024, 01:10 AM

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My 3M Crystalline 70 has the 3M logo that cannot be wiped off with Isopropyl alcohol even at 90% concentration. The dealer said the logo will gradually fade within a few months from repeated wiping/cleaning which is a bit sus, because with almost all the video I've seen the logo can be removed immediately.

That said, the rainbow effect when the windows are sprayed with water seem to be present. Did I just got conned and installed a fake 3M tint?

P.S. RM2800 for Civic
Waltz_168
post Oct 25 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Oct 25 2024, 08:47 AM)
i have CR70 on the windscreen. back then, the installer asked me which 3M logo to remove and remain. the logo was removed easily by using a cleaner (probably alcohol). Installed at B1.

did you receive the 3M digital certificate?
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I did received the eWarranty from an @mmm address 3 months after the installation, however there are a few spelling errors (WarrantRy, bristle bushes instead of bristle brushes).

What made the whole thing especially annoying was I specifically instructed the installer that I didn't want any logos on the tint, and the front windscreen logos are right in front of my eye line.

I emailed 3M a week ago and the only reply I got so far was "we will revert as soon as possible"
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post Nov 14 2024, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Nov 14 2024, 04:22 PM)
did 3M Crystalline on my previous car, now new car but budget abit tight, dont think can go for the best, so need to settle for 2nd best. problem is, what is considered "second best"?

raytech/vkool/rhinepro/etc?
seems like sputter is the one to go for to avoid smartTAG issues

HRV - budget ~3k or less (if can include front ppf would be great but dreaming la)
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As far as I'm aware, only 3M Crystalline series have issues with SmartTag. Most tints even with high IR stat are SmartTag compatible.

Ceramic tint like Horus provides a good balance between spec and price, but ceramic tint absorbs instead of reflecting sunlight, interior
will be hotter when the car is stationary.

Consider adding IrisPro and Hamel into your shopping list, reading through a bunch of post here a lot of people vouch for them
Waltz_168
post Nov 15 2024, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Nov 15 2024, 08:37 AM)
Haha, if you can't afford 3M Crystalline, you CANNOT afford VKool. That is for me the most effective but also the most premium priced metallic based tint.

Forget about VKool non Serendipity range aka VK REM, they are not 2nd best but going towards the much lower range. Used to be VKool user for decades but the price now are priced out from my budget liao.

Raytech also priced quite high even for 2nd best range (do note their best RX for FWS are also non smart tag friendly but other than RX, most are smart tag friendly). Unless you go for even lower range. Then not 2nd best liao. Ceramic based.

Other brands, I not familiar enuf to comment.

However I am using Irispro most premium DX 60/30 tints and Diamond 60 range tint for my cars. Mine are all small sedan aka old Civic FD (supposed to be midsize decades ago, now become small sedan size). That also already hit 3K. Their 3rd best (used to be 2nd best before DX range comes out) are bout 2.2K for sedan previously. All are using their proprietary titanium metallic sputter tint with Blue Light protection feature. If you are in Klang Valley and want to check Irispro out, can PM me to have a direct to a very friendly manager contact in Puchong and Klang branches, can go check out or nego if you want. Already installed 3 cars with them, she have to friendly to me..hahaha...
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Hi Cavino,

Since you have 3 cars with IrisPro, I was wondering if you've tested them with RFID sticker placed INSIDE of the car? How well does it work if it does work at all.
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Nov 27 2024, 01:37 PM)
If quality of both tints are on par, do take the TSER difference with a pinch of salt. We are not even sure how each brand calculate their TSER. IMO, I don't even think they use same formula to calculate them.

Does Hamel Platinum truly have much higher TSER than Irispro Elite?

Becoz I saw in their website (no detail specs), their listed TSER range from 63 to 77. Did not mentioned the VLT, but at the same screen uses 50, 15 and 5 VLT pic. So I am assuming that it might mean that TSER 63 refers to 50%VLT and TSER77 refers to 5% VLT. Just a guess work as I might miss seeing the full specs of their platinum series.

If above is correct, then Elite 50VLT has TSER of 67 and 5VLT has TSER of 85. That should be higher than hamel if you just want to compare paper specs.

However as mentioned I would take the TSER as an initial guideline only. It likely won't be an apple to apple comparison. So if reading a near a similar range, just treat them the same (for branded tints, no name brand can listed sky high TSER but likely can't really back it up long term).

I still feel VKool Elite TSER 55 seems to worked more effectively than others that listed 60++ at 70VLT. So my bias of high quality metallic sputters vs nano-ceramic (just my preference due to metallic has better heat reflection differs than that of ceramic absorbation properties.

As for JPJ summon warranty, I think I saw in website that the warranty apply if you follow using JPJ compliant tint....but then if choose JPJ compliant specs.....then what is there to summon? Mmmm. Maybe in reality, they just cover all JPJ summons regardless of tints compliancy? Some brands do that.
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From Hamel's Website

"The only difference is that the Batman series is still JPJ compliant even if you wish not to follow the regular JPJ compliance stated by JPJ. The JPJ compliance is in terms of VLT is 70% for the front windscreen, 50% for the 2 driver's side windows and 0% for rear side windows plus the rear windscreen. So, with the Batman series package you can choose not to follow the JPJ compliance but your car is still JPJ compliance. But with the Hamel Signature package you need to follow the regular JPJ compliance in order for your car to be JPJ compliant."

TLDR: They insure the illegal tint by covering your summons, going above JPJ VLT limit is not JPJ compliant in any sense of the word
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Dec 15 2024, 01:26 PM)
Hi, my old car wanna do tint can I just do the front 3 glass? Reason is because I wanna protect my dashcam and the passenger seat and back glass alrdy have tint long ago. Just feel that the front heat rejection not that good and can do it darker
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You can even tint 1/3 of your windshield, it's really up to you. The films don't come pre-cut or in a package.

It's a good idea to maintain your rear tint so you don't have to risk damaging the demister

 

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