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post May 9 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Calveez @ May 8 2019, 03:38 PM)
OMG, just got my car tinted last month...and now new ruling.
I used REM tint..for all my sides and Vcool for my front and back. Quite satisfied with the set up. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Even tho my shop got few brand, V-Kool is the top tier for heat resistance!
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post May 9 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(WUUsII @ May 8 2019, 06:05 AM)
Hi . I'm very new with tinted.. n i readmost of the v2 thread from start. Do anyone here Lavish film? They offer good package including body coating though.. any feedback from here about this brand?

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Darkness 70% means only 30% VLT left
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post May 9 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Calveez @ May 8 2019, 03:38 PM)
OMG, just got my car tinted last month...and now new ruling.
I used REM tint..for all my sides and Vcool for my front and back. Quite satisfied with the set up. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Your VKool can use with smart tag, auto gate remote and gps?

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post May 9 2019, 05:10 PM

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Those who are looking for high heat rejection and 100% UV rejection, please go to my recent post HERE

IrisPro Tint comes with Performance warranty up to 10 years.. not just normal warranty for bubble, discoloration, peeling etc... its performance guaranteed
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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 9 2019, 04:42 PM)
Your VKool can use with smart tag, auto gate remote and gps?
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My VKool Elite on FWS all can passthrough no prob.
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post May 9 2019, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(spaceman @ May 9 2019, 06:04 PM)
My VKool Elite on FWS all can passthrough no prob.
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Thank you for your reply.
Look like VKool is the tint to go for.
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post May 9 2019, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Volkswagen2 @ May 8 2019, 09:10 AM)
There has been mixed reception of 0% VLT tint this morning in the news. For me it is not good to have 0% visibility, hence I am in the camp which cites safety concerns with 0% tint for the rear side and rear windscreens. Personally I don't think it will be a big difference between 0% and 20 to 30% VLT tint in terms of heat reduction. Good tints with good heat rejection properties up to 30% if not 20% VLT are good enough.

Case in point, a 0% VLT cheap tint which is basically a black-coloured tint with negligible heat rejection properties will have worse performance than a 30% VLT quality tint. In other words, a road user may just opt for a cheap black-coloured tint without any heat rejection properties and stick it on the windscreen with minimal or zero heat rejection properties.

If the new ruling comes into effect with police and/or JPJ carrying out frequent road blocks to check the car's tint, I suspect many will be penalized for having the front windscreen less than 70% VLT and side windscreens less than 50% VLT.
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I dont think they will carrying road block on the road but even so it will not affected the current car as the previos ruling was 70 50 30 and now 70 50 0

Basically this ruling is to solve those imported car issue especially Estima/Vellfire/ETC come with dark window at the back side and rear.
With this ruling, all those imported car can avoid those hassle procedure during PUSPAKOM inspection.
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post May 10 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ May 7 2019, 01:02 PM)
Aduh .... Fei Zai Loke ....
wtf u are trying to do .... u are putting all road users in danger u know ....
Rear passenger all black i can accept.
But Rear Windscreen also all black? You sane or insane?
Puxxma, only know how to do bukan bukan punya benda, aduh ....

New Tinting rule:
Front Windscreen - 70%
Front Side Mirror - 50%
Rear Side Mirror - 0%
Rear Windscreen - 0%
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This ruling confirmed already? When come into effect?
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post May 10 2019, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 9 2019, 07:31 PM)
Thank you for your reply.
Look like VKool is the tint to go for.
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Think twice. Don't just listen to one user's experience.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88469709 (GPS 50% got problem)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88472579 (GPS no problem)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88626240 (Smart Tag ok; autogate blocked)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88645514 (Smart Tag ok; GPS blocked)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88646308 (autogate slow / blocked. RFID card blocked)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=89735282 (GPS blocked)

All posts under same 2018 thread, still very valid.
In conclusion, V-Kool = Very Good in Heat Rejection. But MIGHT have Smart Tag / GPS / Autogate issue, depend on your luck.


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QUOTE(aspartame @ May 10 2019, 11:36 AM)
This ruling confirmed already? When come into effect?
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Already come into effect.
Google [Tint Malaysia] news and u will get the news.

This post has been edited by KennRicky: May 10 2019, 12:05 PM
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post May 10 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 9 2019, 04:42 PM)
Your VKool can use with smart tag, auto gate remote and gps?
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Smart tag signal reduced, need to be pass very slow. Autogate/Gatepass signal also will reduced significantly. GPS lagi teruk to the point it is unusable unless you put your phone directly under the windscreen and touching the windscreen for almost full signal.

If you need GPS navigation, stay away from VKool. It may be the best, but it is fundamentally flawed for GPS or radio signal usage. It may also affects RFID in the future.

I am using VKool Elite and I quite regret my decision in listening to the salesman, three times, three different cars, at three different times. No improvement at all to GPS, autogate and smart tag.

If you go for Huper Optik or 3M Crystalline, you can cut a hole for the Smart Tag (Smart Tag is using infra-red signal, not radio wave), or stick your smart tag at the black dotted area behind your rear view mirror. Usually they won't tint there. The black dotted area also camouflage the smart tag so it is not that visible when looking from outside the car.

This post has been edited by RicoT: May 10 2019, 12:22 PM
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post May 10 2019, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ May 10 2019, 12:03 PM)
Think twice. Don't just listen to one user's experience.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88469709 (GPS 50% got problem)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88472579 (GPS no problem)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88626240 (Smart Tag ok; autogate blocked)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88645514 (Smart Tag ok; GPS blocked)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88646308 (autogate slow / blocked. RFID card blocked)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=89735282 (GPS blocked)

All posts under same 2018 thread, still very valid.
In conclusion, V-Kool = Very Good in Heat Rejection. But MIGHT have Smart Tag / GPS / Autogate issue, depend on your luck.
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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 10 2019, 12:11 PM)
Smart tag signal reduced, need to be pass very slow. Autogate/Gatepass signal also will reduced significantly. GPS lagi teruk to the point it is unusable unless you put your phone directly under the windscreen and touching the windscreen for almost full signal.

If you need GPS navigation, stay away from VKool. It may be the best, but it is fundamentally flawed for GPS or radio signal usage. It may also affects RFID in the future.

I am using VKool Elite and I quite regret my decision in listening to the salesman, three times, three different cars, at three different times. No improvement at all to GPS, autogate and smart tag.

If you go for Huper Optik or 3M Crystalline, you can cut a hole for the Smart Tag (Smart Tag is using infra-red signal, not radio wave), or stick your smart tag at the black dotted area behind your rear view mirror. Usually they won't tint there. The black dotted area also camouflage the smart tag so it is not that visible when looking from outside the car.
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Thank you for your replies.
I thought VKool has improved on their tint films.
Last time I have VKool installed on my Unser. I have issues with Smart Tag and GPS.
On my newer cars, I went with Huper Optik. No issue with Smart Tag and GPS but heat rejection is not as good as VKool.
On my new car, I thought of going back to VKool.
Now with your replies, I might have to test out their film first (need them to give me a piece of their film to wrap my Smart Tag to test).

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post May 10 2019, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 10 2019, 12:37 PM)
Thank you for your replies.
I thought VKool has improved on their tint films.
Last time I have VKool installed on my Unser. I have issues with Smart Tag and GPS.
On my newer cars, I went with Huper Optik. No issue with Smart Tag and GPS but heat rejection is not as good as VKool.
On my new car, I thought of going back to VKool.
Now with your replies, I might have to test out their film first (need them to give me a piece of their film to wrap my Smart Tag to test).
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My advice, stay away from VKool if you need to use your GPS to navigate around. SmartTag is okay but need to drive very slow to pass through, but gatepass can't use and autogate remote reduced. Alternatively on the expensive side of tint, perhaps 3M Crystalline. Or mid range, Llumar, Hamel, etc.

Salesman will sure say improve la, GPS no problem la, gatepass no problem la, just to secure sales (usual salesman talk la, which salesman will say their product is bad? Don't get misled.). After pasang, no improvement. Don't believe the VKool salesman.

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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 10 2019, 12:53 PM)
My advice, stay away from VKool if you need to use your GPS to navigate around. SmartTag is okay but need to drive very slow to pass through, but gatepass can't use and autogate remote reduced. Alternatively on the expensive side of tint, perhaps 3M Crystalline. Or mid range, Llumar, Hamel, etc.

Salesman will sure say improve la, GPS no problem la, gatepass no problem la, just to secure sales (usual salesman talk la, which salesman will say their product is bad? Don't get misled.). After pasang, no improvement. Don't believe the VKool salesman.
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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 10 2019, 12:53 PM)
My advice, stay away from VKool if you need to use your GPS to navigate around. SmartTag is okay but need to drive very slow to pass through, but gatepass can't use and autogate remote reduced. Alternatively on the expensive side of tint, perhaps 3M Crystalline. Or mid range, Llumar, Hamel, etc.

Salesman will sure say improve la, GPS no problem la, gatepass no problem la, just to secure sales (usual salesman talk la, which salesman will say their product is bad? Don't get misled.). After pasang, no improvement. Don't believe the VKool salesman.
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I guess if we go with films that have high rejection this and that, Smart Tag, GPS and gate remote cannot use.
If want to use Smart Tag, GPS and gate remote, then have to look for moderate rejection this and that.
Can't have both.
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how much does it cost to retint whole cx-5 (2018) with reasonably good IRR & TSER rating ya? budget about 1k can get with security film for side windows?

am thinking of going maybe 20% or 30% for side and rear.. 0% is quite ridiculous.. my as well put a cover over the side and rear windows already..
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QUOTE(raist86 @ May 10 2019, 03:17 PM)
how much does it cost to retint whole cx-5 (2018) with reasonably good IRR & TSER rating ya? budget about 1k can get with security film for side windows?

am thinking of going maybe 20% or 30% for side and rear.. 0% is quite ridiculous.. my as well put a cover over the side and rear windows already..
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With the price Rm1k, you won't get decent quality tinted.
CX-5 need Rm2k for a decent tinted
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post May 10 2019, 03:36 PM

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Guys any 3m tint I can get with budget 1.5k or I can top up abit more if needed. Look like you guys recommend crystalline series.
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post May 10 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 10 2019, 01:53 PM)
My advice, stay away from VKool if you need to use your GPS to navigate around. SmartTag is okay but need to drive very slow to pass through, but gatepass can't use and autogate remote reduced. Alternatively on the expensive side of tint, perhaps 3M Crystalline. Or mid range, Llumar, Hamel, etc.

Salesman will sure say improve la, GPS no problem la, gatepass no problem la, just to secure sales (usual salesman talk la, which salesman will say their product is bad? Don't get misled.). After pasang, no improvement. Don't believe the VKool salesman.
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I'm using Smart Tag (latest model) and GPS Navigation (IPhone - Waze) no problem at all.

As for the RFID, we have customer put it outside bottom windscreen (the black area) and work perfectly
As for built in car navigation system, it might have problem to detect because it can send out the signal but cant receive due to heavy metal in VKOOL.
As for Smart Tag, try to change your battery/position/slow down when go through the toll.
As for auto gate/access card you can refer here

https://www.magnet.com.my/barrier-gate/rfid...g-reader-system
If you access card can't use, just convert it to UHF just like RFID

My Honda City with Complete V-Kool 40
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post May 10 2019, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 10 2019, 12:37 PM)
Thank you for your replies.
I thought VKool has improved on their tint films.
Last time I have VKool installed on my Unser. I have issues with Smart Tag and GPS.
On my newer cars, I went with Huper Optik. No issue with Smart Tag and GPS but heat rejection is not as good as VKool.
On my new car, I thought of going back to VKool.
Now with your replies, I might have to test out their film first (need them to give me a piece of their film to wrap my Smart Tag to test).
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Eh ~ sure that wrap Smart Tag method work or not oh?
Sound a bit not so scientific, lol.

Why not try other brands?
But each big brands have their own issues la.

3M = Crystaline 70 not Smart Tag compliant
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88471414
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88497374
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=90390216

Huper Optik = Heat Resistance not good
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88593460
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88469709
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88471364

Llumar = Heat Resistance not good (but only few users are saying no good, really few, if compared to other brands)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88593460
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=91443732
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=90872770

Else say Llumar heat resistance satisfied. Heat rejection is really personal i think. Where u park, when u drive, etc.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=90844945
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=90873428

So for me, if i wanna go for big brands, I might try Llumar la. Since lesser complaint.
But in real life, my budget allow me to go for Raytech mid lower spec only doh.gif
Even review toward Raytech is fifty fifty only, some very satisfied, some not really toward the heat resistant ~

Other Brands
Didn't survey further on other brands like Haverkamp, Glastec, Irispro because too far from my home.
But overall review for these brand seems not bad. You may further research la ~

For me, VKool doesn't justify the price la. Charge most expensive price in the market, but need to depend luck or with so much limitation to have GPS / Smart Tag / Auto Gate working.
Need to slow down, need to change to UHF, in-built GPS cannot use, etc.

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