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Enquiries/Recommendations Buying a new laptop? NEED RECOMMENDATIONS? V22, Please FOLLOW the FORMAT TQ~!

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post Jan 3 2014, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jan 2 2014, 09:45 PM)
youtube streaming actually uses flash player, which is a CPU independent program. so a weak CPU is the normally the cause but as for your brother's case, its weird as the ULV CPU is enough to support 1080p streaming with flash players. i dont really suggest you to get Mac, since there are better ones in the market. by the way, is it necessary for you to have full HD screen? because those with full HD screens are kinda out of your budget.

ASUS
T300LA-C4001H, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080 IPS; touch)@RM3399[1.1+0.8kg], 4GB, W8.1, keyboard dock (hybrid)

Dell
XPS13, i5-4200U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080; Touch)@RM3999[1.37kg], 8GB, W8.1, backlit, 55Whr

Acer
Aspire S7-392-74504G12, i7-4500U + Intel HD4400 + 128GB SSD + (1920x1080; touch)@RM3999[1.3kg], 4GB, W8.1

Toshiba
Portégé Z930-2035, i5-3337U+ Intel HD4000 + 128GB SSD@RM3799, 6GB W8, 3 years

EDIT : prices are RRP and negotiable.
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mba 2013 13" is just starting from 3299... at that price point i dont see any laptop is better ones in the market (at least the list above)... i agree with TJ most probably lagging in youtube is due to slow internet in meresia... more than the hardware itself... this is 2013 leh, not 2005, all intel processor (even those new type celerons or B960 etc...), i believe is capable handling 1080p video

QUOTE(MewMeow @ Jan 3 2014, 09:35 AM)
Thanks for your suggestion Koyomi. But my friend's Dell harddisk failed twice before.. so I scare already... Did u have  some similar feedback before?  blush.gif
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QUOTE(Koyomi @ Jan 3 2014, 11:47 AM)
Like what raymond said everything is not perfect but the support is good IMO.

So far I never had any hard disk issues.
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my colleague dell mobo change twice, daugtherboard once, harddisk twice... even adapter and battery changed once (at 2nd years 9 months, not sure how he nag the dell to change for him)...

the only thing that dell is proud is their warranty, the stuff QC is generally low (inspiron/vostro line), just my personally experience...

and keyboard quality is bad either (old insprion and vostro line, not sure now insprion 7000 how). you can feel the gap everytime you type...
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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Jan 3 2014, 02:57 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Here's my requirement

1. Preferred Brand: Any brand except Toshiba, Acer, HP, Compaq (horrible experience with these brands)
2. Budget: Less than RM2000
3. Usage: MS Word and MS Excel, lot of number crunching, surfing and watching downloaded movie/music
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14 inch and above, the bigger the better.
5. Hardware built-up should also have additional RAM slot for future RAM upgrades, Bluetooth and webcam.
6. OS: Prefer Windows 8 and above, 64-bit
7. Above mentioned budget should also include license to use Windows 8 and the latest MS Office.

Thanks!

What are my options??
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Pretty much this one?
15.6"
Dell
Inspiron 15, i3-3217U + AMD HD7670M@RM1499[2.25kg], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), 6-cell, Linux; W8SL@RM1699

*use remaining budget to purchase MS Office icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 3 2014, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Jan 3 2014, 03:34 PM)

my colleague dell mobo change twice, daugtherboard once, harddisk twice... even adapter and battery changed once (at 2nd years 9 months, not sure how he nag the dell to change for him)...

the only thing that dell is proud is their warranty, the stuff QC is generally low (inspiron/vostro line), just my personally experience...

and keyboard quality is bad either (old insprion and vostro line, not sure now insprion 7000 how). you can feel the gap everytime you type...
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wow.. that's crazy!! so many problemssss... doh.gif


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QUOTE(xproc @ Jan 3 2014, 03:34 PM)
mba 2013 13" is just starting from 3299... at that price point i dont see any laptop is better ones in the market (at least the list above)... i agree with TJ most probably lagging in youtube is due to slow internet in meresia... more than the hardware itself... this is 2013 leh, not 2005, all intel processor (even those new type celerons or B960 etc...), i believe is capable handling 1080p video
my colleague dell mobo change twice, daugtherboard once, harddisk twice... even adapter and battery changed once (at 2nd years 9 months, not sure how he nag the dell to change for him)...

the only thing that dell is proud is their warranty, the stuff QC is generally low (inspiron/vostro line), just my personally experience...

and keyboard quality is bad either (old insprion and vostro line, not sure now insprion 7000 how). you can feel the gap everytime you type...
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QC for budget-line notebooks will definitely be low regardless of the brand man laugh.gif
At least certain brands have decent warranty support to back up laugh.gif

As for the newer lineups of notebooks (I just came back from Digital Mall), almost all of them have super shallow keyboard sinks. Most of them suck, pretty disappointed sweat.gif
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QUOTE(simonhtz @ Jan 3 2014, 02:57 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Here's my requirement

1. Preferred Brand: Any brand except Toshiba, Acer, HP, Compaq (horrible experience with these brands)
2. Budget: Less than RM2000
3. Usage: MS Word and MS Excel, lot of number crunching, surfing and watching downloaded movie/music
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14 inch and above, the bigger the better.
5. Hardware built-up should also have additional RAM slot for future RAM upgrades, Bluetooth and webcam.
6. OS: Prefer Windows 8 and above, 64-bit
7. Above mentioned budget should also include license to use Windows 8 and the latest MS Office.

Thanks!

What are my options??
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I thought of buying Toshiba.. i tot Toshiba is quite good.. do you mind sharing what horrible experience with Toshiba??
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QUOTE(MewMeow @ Jan 3 2014, 03:39 PM)
wow.. that's crazy!! so many problemssss...  doh.gif
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Different people will have different experiences with a particular brand yo laugh.gif
Some good some bad, that's electronics for you haha
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 3 2014, 03:41 PM)
Different people will have different experiences with a particular brand yo laugh.gif
Some good some bad, that's electronics for you haha
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so according to your experience which brand usually have the best build quality and less problem ya??

And what is your opinion on Fujitsu??
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QUOTE(MewMeow @ Jan 3 2014, 03:44 PM)
so according to your experience which brand usually have the best build quality and less problem ya??

And what is your opinion on Fujitsu??
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Its all about the "category" for each brand nod.gif
For example: Budget line notebooks will never be better than Premium line notebooks nod.gif
Apple products are deemed good quality because they only sell Premium notebooks (>RM3k)

Read here for more details, its an old post, but still, and will always be, valid icon_rolleyes.gif
http://tanji.me/mobile-computing/notebook-...do-they-matter/

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 3 2014, 03:50 PM)
Its all about the "category" for each brand nod.gif
For example: Budget line notebooks will never be better than Premium line notebooks  nod.gif 
Apple products are deemed good quality because they only sell Premium notebooks (>RM3k)

Read here for more details, its an old post, but still, and will always be, valid  icon_rolleyes.gif
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then in 'Budgeting' categories, which brand give lesser problem?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MewMeow @ Jan 3 2014, 03:52 PM)
then in 'Budgeting' categories, which brand give lesser problem??  tongue.gif
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there isn't....all brands in the budget category have higher risk of giving problem due to poorer QC...so the difference here is luck and how is the laptop used... smile.gif

no offense, but ur question is liken to "which sex of heavy smokers are at higher risk of lungs cancer?"..answer is: all equal risk...difference is luck and their body's immune system. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 3 2014, 03:40 PM)
QC for budget-line notebooks will definitely be low regardless of the brand man laugh.gif
At least certain brands have decent warranty support to back up laugh.gif

As for the newer lineups of notebooks (I just came back from Digital Mall), almost all of them have super shallow keyboard sinks. Most of them suck, pretty disappointed  sweat.gif
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budget laptop not necessary low QC low quality, look at lenovo... i brought an RM1k lenovo G400s (lowest spec) for my gf cafe... so far so good, definitely worth every cents i paid, just look at the keyboard is already worth back the price (if compare to RM1.5k-2.5k dell-ish keyboard)...

got free laptop backpac also (lenovo brand, retail i think about rm100)
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QUOTE(xproc @ Jan 3 2014, 06:36 PM)
budget laptop not necessary low QC low quality, look at lenovo... i brought an RM1k lenovo G400s (lowest spec) for my gf cafe... so far so good, definitely worth every cents i paid, just look at the keyboard is already worth back the price (if compare to RM1.5k-2.5k dell-ish keyboard)...

got free laptop backpac also (lenovo brand, retail i think about rm100)
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You consider brand too much haha sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xproc @ Jan 3 2014, 03:34 PM)
and keyboard quality is bad either (not sure now insprion 7000 how).
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still bad, too. i had demoed all Inspion 7000 units and every of them have shallow sinks. to add, Inspiron 17 7000 keyboard has the most flex when pressure applied, resulting in a build quality drop (instead of the chassis).
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1. Preferred Brand - Lenovo, Sony, or any other brand (most importantly can play games smoothly + won't overheat)
2. Budget - RM 2,200 ~ RM 2,500
3. Usage - Gaming, surfing website, watch movie
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 15"
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post Jan 4 2014, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jan 3 2014, 11:44 PM)
1. Preferred Brand - Lenovo, Sony, or any other brand (most importantly can play games smoothly + won't overheat)
2. Budget - RM 2,200 ~ RM 2,500
3. Usage - Gaming, surfing website, watch movie
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 15"
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welcome /k/tard. thumbup.gif
anyway, your budget allows you to get a mid-range GPU, so not possible for you to play on high settings. icon_rolleyes.gif as long you maintain your laptop, there wont be overheat issue. your choices :

Dell
Inspiron 15R, i7-4500U + AMD HD8850M (GDDR5) @RM2499[2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Linux, 65WHr; W8SL@RM2699

Lenovo
Z510, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2399[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 yrs, color: white
Z510, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GT740M@RM2799[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 yrs

prices are RRP and negotiable.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jan 4 2014, 12:17 AM)
welcome /k/tard. thumbup.gif
anyway, your budget allows you to get a mid-range GPU, so not possible for you to play on high settings.  icon_rolleyes.gif  as long you maintain your laptop, there wont be overheat issue. your choices :

Dell
Inspiron 15R, i7-4500U + AMD HD8850M (GDDR5) @RM2499[2.32kg], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm), Linux, 65WHr; W8SL@RM2699

Lenovo
Z510, i5-4200M + Nvidia GT740M@RM2399[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 yrs, color: white
Z510, i7-4702MQ + Nvidia GT740M@RM2799[2.2kg], 4GB, 1TB, backlit, W8; 2 yrs

prices are RRP and negotiable.
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how u noe im /k/tard LOL!
Btw, is lenovo reliable and durable?? some said not durable etc..

and how much is the z510 i7?

how about MSI GP60 2OD-259MY 15.6" Gaming Laptop/ Notebook
[RM2,479]
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/msi...p-notebook.html


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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jan 4 2014, 12:24 AM)
how u noe im /k/tard LOL!
Btw, is lenovo reliable and durable?? some said not durable etc..

and how much is the z510 i7?

how about  MSI GP60 2OD-259MY 15.6" Gaming Laptop/ Notebook
[RM2,479]
http://www.techhypermart.com/notebooks/msi...p-notebook.html
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because your name is famous in /k/. laugh.gif
for Lenovo's reliability, it depends on luck normally. some are happy with the quality, some dont.

for Z510 with i7, i tried after negotiation, i can get RM2600 lowest.

for the MSI GP60 you mentioned, the advantage there is matte full HD screen but MSI is known for inaccurate colours (even worse than Lenovo). besides, it comes with i5-4200M, which is a dual core. so i'd suggest you to go out and compare the 2 models by your own. i believe your experience is different than mine. icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. Preferred Brand = MSI or Lenovo
2. Budget = Below 3.5k market price.
3. Usage = gaming and designs
4. Preferred laptop/screen size = 15" and above

please sifus. really need some recommandation!
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QUOTE(khajoe58 @ Jan 4 2014, 12:56 AM)
1. Preferred Brand = MSI or Lenovo
2. Budget = Below 3.5k market price.
3. Usage = gaming and designs
4. Preferred laptop/screen size = 15" and above

please sifus. really need some recommandation!
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Lenovo
Y510p, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT755M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080)@RM3399[2.7kg], 8GB, 1TB, W8.1, red backlit, swappable ODD, 120w psu, 2 yrs

MSI
GE60-2OC, i7-4700MQ + Nvidia GT750M(GDDR5) + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM3599,8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W8, steel series KB

i would say, go for Y510P. better thermal profile and better screen colour than the MSI. price is RSP and negotiable.
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1. Preferred Brand = not sure which one is good (no use laptop just helping friend to ask)
2. Budget = Below RM3000
3. Usage = gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size = 15" and above

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