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post Dec 5 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 5 2013, 09:43 AM)
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Just what I needed to know - thanks! I've been hearing various mentions that more product needs to be used, the others say pressure is essential to create thick and clingy suds - guess it'll be at the backburner for now.
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Krytone @ Dec 5 2013, 04:44 PM)
is there anywhere in KL to buy ONR and OCWax in gallons?

Also can the Scratch X 2.0 by meguiars be a polish replacement?

I am currenly living in a condo and can only do correction by hand so trying to find a good polish that is forgiving to CC if applied by hand.

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Look for Meguiars Colour X. A very good AIO product
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 5 2013, 05:10 PM)
Look for Meguiars Colour X. A very good AIO product
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Thanks sir will try to look and try it out.

Regarding the ONR and OCW, any one knows? smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:19 PM

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Also, a question to everyone... Do you wash your cars everytime you drive through rain?

Im kind of OCD regarding my car and been doing that. Dont know if there is an alternative ways of drying the car after driving in the rain.

Thanks!
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Brijesh @ Dec 4 2013, 03:40 PM)
Hi ..

Yes, i think i will need to do clay as this car never polished before. Can you advise me where to buy ? how to buy and what type to buy ? laugh.gif
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Ace hardware, jusco, tesco, any brand will do. you should keep it in a plastic container after using so you can reuse it.
no specific type LOL
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Krytone @ Dec 5 2013, 05:19 PM)
Also, a question to everyone... Do you wash your cars everytime you drive through rain?

Im kind of OCD regarding my car and been doing that. Dont know if there is an alternative ways of drying the car after driving in the rain.

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quick wash and dry will do i guess smile.gif cant take more than 30 minutes
if you can do it right, a bucket of water and a cloth will do to wash
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Krytone @ Dec 5 2013, 05:19 PM)
Also, a question to everyone... Do you wash your cars everytime you drive through rain?

Im kind of OCD regarding my car and been doing that. Dont know if there is an alternative ways of drying the car after driving in the rain.

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with a good protection, average about 40km/h will blow off all the water.....

alternatively, dun drive keep the car at home laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2013, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 4 2013, 04:15 PM)
errr....hrrrmm....doesn't sound like you doing it right.

I google and found these:

http://www.turtlewax.com/shop/products/tur...ishing-compound

http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Wax-T-241A-Po...d/dp/B0009JKGJ2

Is the 1st one the one that you're using? Or the one in a can? Either way, it's the same and judging by the description/instruction, I think you need to check your method/technique.

Polishing/compounding is for removing defects/swirls. If the TW polishing compound is meant for that, then you should be using it with the applicator pad with a little pressure (passion) to remove defects. Working on a small (around 1' x 1') area at a time, work the polish with a little bit of pressure then gently wipe off immediately after finished working it. Unless the instruction on the label says otherwise, that would normally be how to work a polish/compound. If you needed a lot of pressure to remove the polish, it's either you're using too much product or you're not working it correctly. You're not suppose to wait for it to dry.
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I'm using the 2nd polish, only 1 I see on the shelf at Ace hardware and Aeon Big. I usually let it dry and a white haze appears on it before i remove doh.gif maybe thats the problem, I'll try removing it straight away the next time i do, should be next year though, wont want to over-polish my paint biggrin.gif noted and thanks for advice smile.gif greatly appreciated
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QUOTE(xffght5829 @ Dec 5 2013, 05:41 PM)
I'm using the 2nd polish, only 1 I see on the shelf at Ace hardware and Aeon Big. I usually let it dry and a white haze appears on it before i remove doh.gif maybe thats the problem, I'll try removing it straight away the next time i do, should be next year though, wont want to over-polish my paint biggrin.gif noted and thanks for advice smile.gif greatly appreciated
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Look like you use too much of product until it 'cake up' and dried - harden. If too much of product apply, you would remove it while its still wet or use a damp cloth to move it - least pressure the better
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QUOTE(g88 @ Dec 5 2013, 05:49 PM)
Look like you use too much of product until it 'cake up' and dried - harden. If too much of product apply, you would remove it while its still wet or use a damp cloth to move it - least pressure the better
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post Dec 6 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Krytone @ Dec 5 2013, 05:19 PM)
Also, a question to everyone... Do you wash your cars everytime you drive through rain?

Im kind of OCD regarding my car and been doing that. Dont know if there is an alternative ways of drying the car after driving in the rain.

Thanks!
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Here's an OCD way of putting things into perspective: The more you touch the paint, the more the chance of instilling swirls/marrings onto it. If you do need to wash often, I'd suggest you research on washing and drying techniques, tools and products so that you would MINIMIZE instilling damages incidental to your washing/drying.

My suggestion:

Firstly, have a good protection (wax/sealant/coating) on and keep it healthy by whichever way recommended (spray wax/topper/'refresher'/etc.) on the product's label. Do this every week or every time or as many time as necessary during your 'proper' wash program/routine. This would ensure that dirt or any contaminant can be easily clean off without requiring 'aggressive' method (like stronger shampoo mix, more passes with a wash mitt, stubborn stain, etc.). In between you routine washes, what you can do is just douse or spray your car with water and dry it. Safest way of doing this (if you're really OCD) is to get yourself one of those electric leaf blower and blow the water off instead of wiping dry with a cloth. DO NOT...i repeat...DO NOT even attempt to use one of those drying 'blades' or wiper blades to 'wipe' the water off. Another good machine to have for this is a pressure washer whereby you can just 'shoot' most and more of the dirt off as oppose to normal garden spray hose.

Going even deeper, afterwards you can use those 'waterless' or 'rinseless' wash, spray them on and wipe. Ecowash, Optimum No Rinse, Megs Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere, etc. are example of products that are available here that you can use for this purpose. Actually, if your car is not-so-dirty, the 'waterless' or 'rinseless' washes would be a better choice in cleaning up as oppose to using plain water.

Again, the more you touch the more the risk, there are products and tools available to minimize this but nothing can beat good technique & knowledge.

After saying all that, personally, if my car is dirty or been exposed to dirty rainy days, I would either do a proper wash if I have the time or just let it be and wash it properly during my weekend routine wash tongue.gif . Knowing that, if anything, most of the damages caused by this kind of weather are easily corrected with the tools and products that I have..... sweat.gif
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post Dec 6 2013, 09:59 AM

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Hi Guys,

Just found this thread...

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post Dec 6 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 6 2013, 09:10 AM)
Here's an OCD way of putting things into perspective: The more you touch the paint, the more the chance of instilling swirls/marrings onto it. If you do need to wash often, I'd suggest you research on washing and drying techniques, tools and products so that you would MINIMIZE instilling damages incidental to your washing/drying.

My suggestion:

Firstly, have a good protection (wax/sealant/coating) on and keep it healthy by whichever way recommended (spray wax/topper/'refresher'/etc.) on the product's label. Do this every week or every time or as many time as necessary during your 'proper' wash program/routine. This would ensure that dirt or any contaminant can be easily clean off without requiring 'aggressive' method (like stronger shampoo mix, more passes with a wash mitt, stubborn stain, etc.). In between you routine washes, what you can do is just douse or spray your car with water and dry it. Safest way of doing this (if you're really OCD) is to get yourself one of those electric leaf blower and blow the water off instead of wiping dry with a cloth. DO NOT...i repeat...DO NOT even attempt to use one of those drying 'blades' or wiper blades to 'wipe' the water off. Another good machine to have for this is a pressure washer whereby you can just 'shoot' most and more of the dirt off as oppose to normal garden spray hose.

Going even deeper, afterwards you can use those 'waterless' or 'rinseless' wash, spray them on and wipe. Ecowash, Optimum No Rinse, Megs Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere, etc. are example of products that are available here that you can use for this purpose. Actually, if your car is not-so-dirty, the 'waterless' or 'rinseless' washes would be a better choice in cleaning up as oppose to using plain water.

Again, the more you touch the more the risk, there are products and tools available to minimize this but nothing can beat good technique & knowledge.

After saying all that, personally, if my car is dirty or been exposed to dirty rainy days, I would either do a proper wash if I have the time or just let it be and wash it properly during my weekend routine wash tongue.gif . Knowing that, if anything, most of the damages caused by this kind of weather are easily corrected with the tools and products that I have..... sweat.gif
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Just wondering, where to get the electric leaf blower ar? TQ
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post Dec 6 2013, 10:15 AM

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Thanks KrisMas.

Actually i dont have the luxury of getting any machine operated tools and endless water supply as i live in a condo and do my detailing in my parking building.

So with that, i do have the necessary tools that i need for this kind of situation. For now i use TW rinseless for washing together with a wash mitt, one bucket with 2 gallons of water and a grit guard. PG no.1 clay and I have an AIO which is a TW cleaner wax but mostly i use a meguiars wax.

Finding a good polish and sealant but that is planned for next year already.

But if it rained in between washes, i do a quick rinsless wash and thats it. Im mostly afraid of the watermarks appearing in my CC so i try to get them off asap.

But what you said is true, that the more you touch the paint, the more prone it would be for defects so i was asking if there is an alternative but seems i just need to really get better in washing my car.

Thanks again for the guidance.
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QUOTE(Chicharito Choo @ Dec 6 2013, 10:00 AM)
Just wondering, where to get the electric leaf blower ar? TQ
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Bosch has one: Bosch Electric Blower

But I see plenty of brands have them too, brands like Skil, B&D, Makita, DeWalt, etc., also (as usual) the cheapo brands. I see them in plenty of normal hardware shops and also ACE Hardware. I think they're quite common item.
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post Dec 6 2013, 03:52 PM

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Quick question for the sifus:
Which is better?

Menzerna SF4000
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Sonax Perfect Finish 4/6
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post Dec 6 2013, 04:06 PM

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I have both and both are good quality, top notch polishes. Only you personally can define which one is 'better' because both has their own individual strength and weakness? So, what are the comparisons that you're looking for?

....ps....though I have to say that my Menzerna is the 'old' 106fa and not the newly labeled SF4000....

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Sugizo
post Dec 6 2013, 04:17 PM

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Just looking for a good finish polisher to do swirl marks paint correction on my dark grey car
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QUOTE(Sugizo @ Dec 6 2013, 04:17 PM)
Just looking for a good finish polisher to do swirl marks paint correction on my dark grey car
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With the Bigfoot? Then the PF 4/6 would be better suited for the task. My 106fa is not that 'Bigfoot' friendly - works better on a rotary.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 6 2013, 04:28 PM)
With the Bigfoot? Then the PF 4/6 would be better suited for the task. My 106fa is not that 'Bigfoot' friendly - works better on a rotary.
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Yeah for the bigfoot.
How do you determine if it is bigfoot friendly?

Menzerna is RM130 for 1 quart
Sonax is RM200 for 32oz

huge difference in price ....

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