Very odd I can view the youtube myself after i posted it. Nvm I have edited the post.
The Shinemate will be your cheapest yet working solution in Malaysia. If you can go to Thailand, Shinemate polisher is sold at RM400+ only. But due to regional agreement, Shinemate Thailand cannot ship to Malaysia, otherwise I would have buy it long time ago. A forumer here use Shinemate and his feedback so far is positive. Shinemate is also carried by Clean Your Car from UK, and when I ask them why they carried this not so famous model which is from either Taiwan or China (I forgotten), they said they tried it, and feel with the price tag and what it can do, it is a pretty decent machine.

Ultramate DA is okay that is right for a traditional DA machine. The bag is not worth a concern in my opinion, it is just cheap canvas bag only. You can easily get much better quality from normal hardware shop. The last time I call to Shinemate branch in Sabah (or Sarawak? cant remember, only one HQ in Malaysia), they say got include bag. It is a package like Ultramate.

Edit:
Some time ago this machine quite popular too in Malaysia detailing community:
Bosch ROB
It is designed as a wood sander but can be utilized as paint polisher. I think this one is even cheaper than Shinemate.

There is also some machine that has dual mode option. I.e. forced and un-forced in one machine. But they are heavy.
Bosch dual mode

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Jul 31 2014, 09:05 AM

Your foam gun is this kind one (pin type)


or this kind (dial type)

LazyJin Forgotten to ask you so long. Last time your purchase of Meguiar's stuff from USA eventually got tax or not? The last update from you was it was detained at custom at KLIA.

Sorry to hear that. Then are you complaining to the forwarder from Lowyat.net or to the web store?

g88
Still looking forward for your reply.

KrisMas Quazacolt

I had tried search from shoes sponge before but what I bought usually comes with the shoes cream/oil inside the sponge already (didn't realize that when buy it), so end up cannot use for tyre, reserve for shoes (its original design purpose, not too bad luck at least still can polish leather shoes).
Is the Kiwi sponge just pure sponge without any shoes cream/oil/gel in it already?

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 5 2014, 08:14 AM

As stated by KrisMas, Duragloss Malaysia carries one.
GoodWellCarGoods also carry a kind from Gilmour foam gun (RM500+) and a made in China which they claim on par with Gilmour (RM200-).
Not sure the price is worthy or not though.
But I am more curious to know pin type or dial type is better.
One can see pin type usually brass, dial type usually plastic.

Yes, I do have a feeling this shop has a bit high profit margin.
But they do carry a lot of stuff that you only get to see in foreign website.

Not sifu but have good infor to share.
Click
I actually wish to buy a set from him but I then realize I am limited by my house tight space, so it will be even more inconvenient.
I resort to using ultra bright lumen flashlight.

For more self learning on detailing light, can watch

You have to start watching at 11:50. Part 2 never found it in youtube though.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 6 2014, 12:46 PM

KrisMas
Hey just PM you please check mail box.

I had asked the same question regarding the need to IPA strip down the paint before LSP or not in Meguiar's forum.
Have a look yourself from the reply given by Mr. Michael Stoops at the last 3rd reply.

I had also spent considerable effort into clarifying this practice (Chemically striping the paint clean before LSP application is necessary or not), and the following resources have been my favorite reading:

Miscible & Immiscible

Does filler/glaze affect bonding of Meguiar's NXT

Using Mineral Spirt

Mineral Spirt & IPA after a RB buffing
In this you will notice the author claims the IPA leave streaks but mineral spirit does not.

You will have to come out with your own conclusion.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 15 2014, 10:24 AM

I guess you will have a super hard time to buff off if you let it bake under the sun before buff off.

Great job!
My personal experience with UP using hand application is an unpleasant one because I feel it tends to dried up so fast and impossible to move the foam applicator pad smoothly on the paint, I am not even finish working on it!. End up have to top up some more UP to make the "dried" UP "wet" again so I can quickly remove the extra by MF towel. Try it several time at different time of the day, end up same experience, does not feel like temperature causing the issue but the nature of the product itself.
End up now I only use it with a machine.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 16 2014, 02:36 PM

The very 1st time I use, I applied pressure. At the moment of starting it is still easily moveable but very soon it will dry. Then it becomes so hard to move the pad by hand. Then I tried without hard pressure, just like applying wax (my purpose is actually to apply a layer of polishing oil). But it ends up the same, just a bit later.
So I eventually learn that, this product, at least in the environment I am using it, cannot expect to work it out until it is disappears from naked eyes. Touch on paint, then quickly spread with foam pad, then immediately wipe with MF towel (again my purpose is not to remove light swirl). To increase the chances of not getting it dries, use more product.
Thus I also come to the conclusion that this product not favorable by me. It dries way too fast and becomes so hard for a convenient hand application. I think after I finish up this bottle I am not going to buy it again if I was aiming for hand application. Machine application still acceptable but there are alternative that is both excellent in hand and machine application.

You want to remove light swirl, try SwirlX. Excellent hand application experience, and you can actually see the result.

However do not do too much hand job on polishing/compounding, later one arm muscle is stronger than the other

I used PG clay no.3 before. Do not feel any significant more abrasive, at least not to the point of create fine swirl on the paint. But it does feel it removes contamination faster.

Same dilemma like you.
Was hoping those who own Flex converting to Rupes will sell off their used Flex.
But heck Malaysia does not have much Flex owner neither.
I think both machine price almost the same at here. Currently Rupes more popular.
You mentioned "all around", but neither machine can use 3" pad, not sure is that within your "all around" expectation?

I thought you were a Flex owner all the while, selling off your rotary to get a Rupes to combo with your Flex?


This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 17 2014, 01:37 PM

wrong click.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 17 2014, 01:35 PM

LC has produced an alternative backing plate system to be used for Flex.
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With this system user can goes from 6.5" pad to 4" pad. So in term of pad selection Flex wins Rupes for having able to use 4". (Rupes you need two different backing plates to use 6" and 5" pads, if I remember the diameter correctly).

So far all the user in AG never complain about durability of Flex. It is like last for life time unless you drop it. Rupes since is quite new so it will take some years for it to prove itself in term of durability. You can check out the GoodWell Car Goods, they carry now a made in China Rupes copy cost about RM900 (21mm throw). They claims to perform on par with genuine Rupes.

Next two weeks I will have chance to try on both Rupes again. Can get a better feeling on the machine again.

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Aug 18 2014, 07:59 AM

Owning one and using it.
Powerwise is enough (not as powerful as Flex of course) for normal job like removing swirl, apply wax.
Can use 3" pad which is the aspect I like the most because often time i just fix those isolated area, I do not need 5" or 6" pad.
Vibrate a bit though, do not expect as smooth as Rupes, no where near. Almost on par with Flex in term of vibration level.

In term of how effective compare with Flex, never use Flex before on real job so can't comment. But so far Ultramate sufficient for my private need (I do not detail for business). It does not bog down easily (but it can).

UC definitely has more cutting power than SwirlX. After UC comes Scratch X 2.0 only comes Swirl X.

Left most aggressive, right least aggressive, for SMAT product from Meguiars.


Here another comprehensive chart but only as a reference.
Chart

Both requires good skill too.
Plain brute force using hand might cause fingermarks scratch.







And the reason: