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post Feb 24 2014, 05:08 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 15 2014, 01:14 AM)
Hmm, Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer seems to leave a bit of "hazing" behind after application. Being my car is black, it's very obvious when other car shines their headlights on it.

Not sure how obvious it would be under sunlight, will see tomorrow.

It is the inherent characteristic of the product or i am doing something wrong.

Spray, spread and buff.

How wrong can that get hmmm
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experienced some hazing/residue with BSD too.

from my observation:
- surface have to be really clean.

- from the surface that i re-apply meguiar's ULW, the hazing is a lot less/easier to buff off

- surface that have dirt/spots that my washing missed will be a b**** to deal with

- when wiping/buffing off, apply light to no pressure so that you don't squeeze more BSD to the surface and you have to re-buff off again.

- as you apply BSD on the MF/surface, the cloth itself will begin to bead as the product sets in. consider multiple cloths when working with BSD to save time as the product will just bead itself off the cloth after long usage.

comparison with Meguiar's Ultimate quik (spray) wax:
- much more viscous/thicker, easier to apply on straight/vertical panels as it doesn't drips off very fast

- much more glossier, which i think it's due to the more concentrated formula (more viscous)

- the thing beads off the cloth that i am applying it with, so it probably work better than megs tongue.gif

- very picky on surface

- unable to perform wipe on and forget, definitely need to wipe on/wipe off (or buff off, rather)

- the spray bottle is very bad at misting lol
and if you're unable to mist, applying concentrated form on cloth can be a b**** as it beads and rolls off the cloth, potential drip/mess

same goes to panels, if it drips to panels/spots that you just buffed, guess what, buff again lol.

=edit=
after reading your previous posts, you actually used 2 cloths and experienced problems? good guess is dirty surface.

because i only used ONE piece of cloth on my entire car (Proton Inspira, not a small car by any means)
and yes, the last few panels were a nightmare as the cloth is damp/saturated doh.gif


QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 22 2014, 01:09 AM)
OH! I also used the rim wash however no red residue appeared like how it was demonstrated. Am I doing anything wrong?

I just sprayed evenly on dry rims.
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update:
yeah the wheel cleaner i gotten this time (with the rim coating package) does not turn red unsure.gif
i tried my current Sonax Xtreme Wheel cleaner plus full effect, it does turn red a bit (well it's the 2nd time spray so there aren't much brake dust/residue left)

it smells a lot more pleasant than the one i got (yellow'ish in color, then turns red)
however doesn't seem as effective as there is still left over brake dust/residue? definitely need a bit of agitation with tool.

reminds me of meguiar's wheel brightener, very similar effect/strength and smell.

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post Feb 24 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 24 2014, 08:52 AM)
Can you quote the part number. I'd like to do some digging. I was curious when Reza told me the liquid inside was clear instead of the neon/florescent yellow like the one I have. Thanks.
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will do, will update again once i get home

QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 24 2014, 09:24 AM)
by "surface have to be really clean" meaning free from contaminants or just a normal car wash? I applied the BSD immediately the car wash and a proper wipe.

in respect of the application, I employed the mentality that my car paint was made from tofu :haha: I just very lightly spread the BSD and then buff it off softly. I initially though the hazing was due to the improper buffing and the BSD just stayed on.

I had two cloths though, one to spread and another to buff.

:hmmm:
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preferably free from contaminants.

from my regular wash experience, some spots the shampoo didn't clear, it'll be hard to apply BSD.
on the spots that i re-apply wax, very easily. almost effortless, VERY NEAR wipe on and forget experience.

well i did flip the cloth around very regularly and basically the entire surface/both sides were utilized. that and my car's relatively clean as it's a weekend drive laugh.gif

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post Feb 24 2014, 02:45 PM

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Detailed since yesterday midnight till early morning:

- Sonax Xtreme Wheel cleaner plus full effect
- Meguiar's gold class car wash
- clayed the rims with clay cloth + Turtle wax F21 car shampoo as lubricant.
- Touch up on front bonnet with Poorboy's black hole (refer previous post on doodle: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/Xg2st9qWpZi )
- Re-apply Meguiar's ultimate liquid wax on front bonnet/roof/rear trunk hood/bonnet
- Meguiar's headlamp protectant
- Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer
- Sonax Rim coating
- Meguiar's Endurance tire gel
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post Feb 24 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Feb 24 2014, 03:10 PM)
me 2 :3
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post Feb 24 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 24 2014, 05:06 PM)
Which clay cloth are you using? Looking for one.


I happen to have some leftover in my store. Got it 4 years and took it out to use it. Easier to use and seems to last pretty long. Applied before CNY up till now. The tire sidewalls lost it's shine a little but I'm ok with that. Will probably apply again this weekend after a thorough wash.

I don't soap the wheels directly. Just use a powerjet to hose down the tire sidewall surface and blow dry the wheels afterwards.
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From Osren biggrin.gif
bought more from shine cars singapore to give it a try though LOL

i have a pressure washer too but i still prefer directly agitating the surface if it's too dirty; else i just spray wheel cleaning solutions and let it sit, then pressure wash away biggrin.gif
(my cars generate a lot of brake dust due to shit driving habits sweat.gif )
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post Feb 26 2014, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Feb 26 2014, 06:54 PM)
Guys, scoutfai Quazacolt KrisMas
Regarding my case that I posted before at #1074

Bought the EZY touchup paint already, I would like to ask, after washing & drying up the area,
Can/Should I apply the Turtlewax Scratch & Swirl beforehand or straight apply EZY touchup paint following their steps provided?

Aside from that, just curious
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this picture? http://imgur.com/NkxSTBY

for the lighter ones maybe can try the turtlewax scratch & swirl first. however for obvious chips such as the bottom/last image, don't bother, just ezy touchup first.
for that one, you can consider sanding down the paint scraps that's poushed aside to the right else the finishing won't be good.

- yes should be just clearcoat.
generally, scratches you can't feel with your fingers are considered very light and clear coat only damage. those that you could, will really depend on the situation.
from your image though it was quite clear that it's gone all the way down to the primer/base metal already.

- for ALL sanding/compounding/polishing, it evens out the SURROUNDING surface to the same level. so eventually, you WILL be thinning out your clear coat and eventually once it gets too thin you will need to do a full paint job/respray.

only glazes/fillers will have "coat" (not exactly coat per say) being applied, or rather fillers being applied to FILL the defects/scratches. it's a temporary hiding/masking and once it wears off the scratch/swirl will re-surface again.
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post Feb 27 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 27 2014, 02:21 PM)
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http://twitpic.com/dwq53a

left is art no. 230 200-544 (the one that turns red and smells like piss)
right is "Best. Nr." 230 200 (the one the bundles with the rim coating, fully German labels)
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post Feb 27 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 27 2014, 03:09 PM)
Roger that. Thanks.
Edit: Bro, since you have both, can have picture of the front also ka? Got contrasting info when I read through info from Sonax site.

From msds 230200-544 is Sonax Xtreme Wheel Cleaner "full effect" (exactly as spelled including the quotation marks);
230300 is Sonax Xtreme Wheel Cleaner PLUS

But, curious that both are described in the msds as "colourless or light red" in colour....my 5L one is yellowish neon/florescent colour. Shucks....how many wheel cleaner do Sonax has....
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ok bro tonight again lol (hopefully i don't forget like previously lol)

iinm the english one is xtreme wheel cleaner plus full effect (lol long name)
while the german one is *PROBABLY* same, cept "wheel cleaner" and "full effect" are in german
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post Feb 27 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 27 2014, 03:35 PM)
Left is the counterfeit product?
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no. but i'd totally use the counterfeit if it's gonna work better (the turning red part wub.gif wub.gif )
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post Feb 27 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(mirage81 @ Feb 27 2014, 03:54 PM)
Pain la weiiii....  cry.gif
so many nice toys wanna grab..  sweat.gif
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you die liao lol
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post Feb 27 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Feb 27 2014, 06:53 PM)
I have plans to ditch my G220v2(s) in lieu of getting a RUPES LHR 75E.
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totally beating me to it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Feb 27 2014, 07:25 PM)
Well, I'm not the first to own in it Malaysia, that's for sure.
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i'm not sure if any of us here (posting on LYN) own it, since it's rather expensive for a very small toy lol...
(hand application pads costing a fraction of the price lol)
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post Mar 1 2014, 12:07 PM

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Before TT i had my car rinsed, so took the opportunity to record some videos.

Slight demo on Sonax Brilliant shine detailer and Sonax rim coating nanopro:


After 20+ minutes drying done:


And just this morning after fetching my sister to LCCT (she going Taiwan lol)

https://plus.google.com/1006415787296325446...sts/VA2KT54voCB

aih lol.
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post Mar 1 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 28 2014, 08:02 AM)
But PW not cheap leh. So many type in the market, different pressure and power rating. What type would be a good one for car enthusiast?
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it's like 200-300. if you're going to deal with car detailing, i find it a bit... "wrong" to not have one.
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QUOTE(acefreakz @ Mar 1 2014, 12:36 PM)
lol awesome beads xD the sonax rim coating awesome too biggrin.gif thanks for the vid bro biggrin.gif btw wat brand u using for the PW? how much?
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http://twitpic.com/cz027z biggrin.gif

there's more sheeting than beading (whatever beading there is, also very un-uniform anyways lol).
if you want beads, megs UQW would perform WAY better tongue.gif
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post Mar 2 2014, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Mar 1 2014, 11:18 PM)
I have exactly the same products in my shelf !! But mine is paste wax.
Been using the Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax for some weeks already, just the wax alone does not really bead or sheet amazingly.
Sonax BSD and rim coating nanopro still on my shelf not open yet, got to wait I finish up my Meguiar's UQW first.
Personally I like sheeting more so I am expecting satisfying result from BSD. Look forward to try it.

I am looking forward to get the same effect on my ride like yours after using BSD  thumbup.gif

Oh man very sorry to see your rock chips. W XXXX H  registration plate some more indicates very new car less than a year.
Why can't rock just stay on the ground.

So what you going to do with these rock chip damages?
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i think the wax is more towards focused on protection.

i noticed if you use the touching test method, the BSD will have squeaks and doesn't have that smooth feeling that the ULW (or UPW) gives.
granted, the UQW topping off the ULW does provide really awesome beads while ULW alone doesn't really does that much.

that and i've noticed the wax can really absorb/protect dirt/dust before it reaches the clear coat or even messing up the glaze underneath.
(refer to the doodle google plus post i've made, where my friends doodled' on the car when it was very dusty)
or even the random cat paws pushing dust/dirt around as it trampled all over my car.

i think it's been debated/discussed many a times that, beading/sheeting isn't the be all end all when it comes to protection. and the thicker/waxier/smoother feel of the ULW will attest to that despite having inferior beading/sheeting qualities.

personally i don't think i'd wait for my UQW to finish, i still love the east of application and the water beading of it wink.gif

and it's ok, i've come to terms that speeding and detailing aren't the best of friends and i have to embrace it's shortcomings if i were to continue dealing with both.
that's what you get for going over 200kph a lot wink.gif

and nah, not going to do anything.
maybe after a few months i'll do another full detailing project again to compound/polish everything.
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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Mar 2 2014, 10:15 AM)
You actually want to type Sonax BSD but mistakenly type Meguiar's UQW?
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nope, UQW will bead better and is much easier to apply than sonax BSD.

it's hard to bead/bead uniformly when water is just sheeting off smile.gif
and UQW feels smoother on the surface while BSD will squeak sweat.gif
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post Mar 3 2014, 01:03 AM

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Krismas
http://twitpic.com/dx45m6
left is the one that turns red and smells like piss lol

hmm there's no "plus" word wo... wonder where i've seen it lol
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post Mar 3 2014, 01:54 PM

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https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/ciQPg7F3XNY Sonax Interior cleaner to cleanup my Proton Inspira's interior biggrin.gif

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/PsYqDy76bak Had a LOT of fun with Sonax soft top/fabric water proof impregnation biggrin.gif Videos soon tongue.gif

tried out the trim restorer thingies too from sonax (lol all bought from their sales)
the matt effect apple scent smells damn good, and doesn't feel slippery/oily and what not.

had it applied everywhere on my car, gear knobs steering etc.
while the glossy effect i only applied on the panel behind the rear seat head rest, and the front dashboard biggrin.gif

will snap some pictures for the trim detailing soon hehe.
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Mar 3 2014, 02:13 PM)
i am a victim of such "property damage" almost every week without fail.

it's not the cloth that caused this, it's the bird droppings. next time if you have something like that, first wet a lump of tissue and then just leave it over the droppings. let it gets soft before you wipe off gently, try to prevent any hard pressure on the paint. the bird droppings sometimes have hard particles in them in which if you just wipe them off (applying pressure) will cause scratches like these.

black paints are prone to things like this.
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and since i have a black new car, i keep a small bottle of UQD (with kleenex tissue papers lol) in the car (sifu Krismas advised me too late on more proper QD's sweat.gif ) for bird dropping, bugs/tars before they harden/etch/damage the clear coat wink.gif

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