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post Feb 28 2017, 09:52 AM

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Remember not to buy BTC at peak if you're looking for short term trading. Expecting it to fall back to 4700+- before shooting up again
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post Feb 28 2017, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2017, 09:44 AM)
If it is going up much much more, I think 100% is peanuts. wink.gif

Damn, I just can't decide whether to get other crytocurrencies or not. I was actually only aiming for one high-risk investment.

Which exchange would be good to buy ethereum? At least, I can use BTC to buy ethereum. Then comes the problem of cold storage which my yet to arrive Trezor wallet doesn't support.  sad.gif

BTC at RM 5324!
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If you're looking to exchange your btc quick for eth, just use shapeshift, quick easy no hassle. If you're looking to buy and trade multiple crypto you could try poloniex exchange.

as for hardware wallets, you might want to try Ledger nano S it supports multiple cryptos.
I personally prefer paper wallets generated offline and have not used any sort of hardware wallet before.
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post Feb 28 2017, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2017, 10:52 AM)
Why the expected drop?  hmm.gif
Thx for the info. I already ordered Trezor. Wait I become millionaire when BTC shoots up then I will buy Ledger.  biggrin.gif

Oh, new thing to me - paper wallets??!!?? Had to google it. Interesting concept.....
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Well, its bitcoin. Many TA indicators suggest that BTC will be from time to time, prone to huge fluctuations in a short period of time. Just about 4 days ago, bitcoin shed over $110 USD in a span of 15 minutes. But recovered quickly. Same thing in the start of 2017, reaching over $1k USD before plummeting to $750+-
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To me personally, paper wallets are secure in terms of cyber security, but you are prone to physical factors like losing your paper, damage by water/fire etc.
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post Feb 28 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2017, 11:48 AM)
I see. Many things to learn. Hope not too late to join the bandwagon especially newer crytocurrencies.

Just learnt paper wallet from you. Still need to do some research to see whether viable for me or not. Maybe print out many copies and hide everywhere.....  biggrin.gif

Which crytocurrencies are you investing in?
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I too, have many things to learn. Well, there's no perfect timing. The perfect time to buy was years ago, the second best time is now. $1000USD/BTC now is like $1 USD/BTC in Apr 2011. Not persuading you to buy, but just an example. No one knows what the price will be in the future.

Most of my holdings are still BTC, but i do have ETH, STEEM, BBR, DASH, XMR, PASC, XRP and some others. Try poloniex.com you'll see a variety of altcoins in the market.

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post Feb 28 2017, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2017, 02:22 PM)
Helps a lot. I'm 2 weeks old in crytocurrencies.  biggrin.gif Bought a bit of bitcoins but got scared after it went up dramatically the past 2 weeks. That's why thinking of whether to get other types of crytocurrencies. Will check out poloniex.

So I guess your crytocurrencies are kept in paper wallet?
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My altcoins are on poloniex exchange, I don't hold them long term sad.gif only long term on btc.

QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 28 2017, 03:36 PM)
You have XMR? Respect!
If you had held them since beginning of last year, your holding would have seen a 2000% profit during the height of its price in Sept 2016!
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I held and sold most of them when alphabay announce their support for monero. Right now i don't have much, but not selling it just yet. DASH and XMR just seems much superior to BTC on paper, expecting them to one day surpass BTC, but definitely not in the near future smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2017, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 28 2017, 08:13 PM)
I see. Hmmm.... searched on hardware wallet and not many hardware supports such variety of crytocurrencies. Maybe in the future they will make one. In the meantime, looks like if I buy some, probably just have to keep on the exchange or online.

Noticed another thing. Would be easy to buy other crytocurrencies without using MYR directly as I think not many exchanges deal in MYR? Just buy bitcoins using MYR and use bitcoins to buy others. I don't see any disadvantages to this, is there?  hmm.gif
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Hardware support for altcoins are scarce. My advice to you is keep your BTC yourself, don't leave it on an exchange or online wallet as it is one of the most dangerous way to hold your BTC long term. The whole idea of BTC is to eliminate third party (i.e bank/financial institution) to hold your money for you. And if anything bad happens to the third party (insolvency/hacked), your BTC will be gone. There's no PIDM to help you reimburse your losses.

QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 1 2017, 12:12 AM)
Interesting......why do you say that DASH and XMR seem superior to BTC, in your opinion?
I'm genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on this.
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DASH has a much faster confirmation time (2-3 mins), and if you pay a higher fee you can use Instant Send for instant confirmation. They have a structured distribution to fund the ecosystem (45%-miners)(45%-masternodes)(10%-infrastructure). That's just an example, for me DASH is still highly undervalued based on their market cap.
http://bitcoinist.com/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-dash/
Despite the facts that are brought up here, I still don't hold much DASH. But there will be a time in the future where I'll exchange most of my BTC to other altcoin like DASH.

As for XMR, its more catered to those who value anonymity and privacy. BTC is only pseudonymous, not anonymous, which might be one of the main reason the price will soar much higher that it is now.
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 1 2017, 01:46 PM)
Yeah, bought Trezor hardware wallet but had to backorder. No news of delivery yet. Oh, so other crytocurrencies besides bitcoin is termed as "altcoins". Cool.

Unfortunately, all those altcoins that you guys recommend, e.g. Ethereum, Dash, monero has been going up for the past 2-3 months. I'm late as ever!!!  bangwall.gif
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Yea trezor has so many orders to fill. yeap they're refered to as altcoins.

there are still many other coins that will show the same pattern.
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 1 2017, 02:29 PM)
If they can finally resolve Bitcoin's scalability issue, that should help to remove the backlog in the mempool and substantially shorten the confirmation times.
However, at the moment, confirmation time for Bitcoin can actually be quite instant (within 3 minutes) if you pay a higher transaction fee as well. I remember paying well in excess of 140 satoshi/B and got a confirmation in less than 2 minutes, and this was just last month.
At this point, to be honest, I'll take SegWit, I'll take Unlimited, I'll take whatever the hell they offer, as long as they finally make up their damned minds and just go with one, otherwise the whole system is choked and that definitely is not helping.
I don't have any experience with DASH though, so I can't comment on its real world applications and security. Does it also use a similar engine as bitcoin, i.e. elliptic curve cryptography and hash algorithm?
The only altcoin I have is ETH, and that's because I am very positive that the smart contracts concept is really going to be a game-changer in real world application.
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I'm not really into the technical aspects of it, but so does the average traders. I just follow the market trends, make my money and get out when it's not profitable anymore.
Who knows, ETH might snatch the number 1 spot in the future. But as for now BTC is still king.
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post Mar 2 2017, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 1 2017, 04:35 PM)
Yes you're right, BTC will probably still reign supreme for the foreseeable future.
Even more so, if the ETF gets approved next week.
In my view, BTC and ETH complement each other in the real world, as they serve distinctly different needs.
I believe the next few years will continue to be very exciting in terms of blockchain technology adoption, both by the average Joe on the street, and also by large corporations worldwide.
Just several days ago, several large corporations formed the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance, dedicated to developing Ethereum and incorporating it into global business enterprises.
The members include JP Morgan, Microsoft, Intel, Accenture, BP, Credit Suisse, ING, etc. All big names, with big commitments, so I do believe the future is looking bright for Ethereum.

http://www.coindesk.com/big-corporates-uni...ereum-alliance/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-int...chain-alliance/

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and hence the price increase as i'm writing now. Just closed my position at 0.01425 thumbup.gif nice profit but unfortunately i didn't have much sad.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 2 2017, 11:21 AM)
Good advice that everybody should follow. However, I just don't have the time to go into the details. I used to be a safe investor, something like 80% low-risk instruments and 20% low-moderate risk (never did count the percentages actually). Now with crytocurrencies, I'm probably aiming, say, a maximum of up to 10% of the total so I guess I'm still safe smile.gif

As I consider this a high risk high return investment, I'm going all the way, considering the fact that the potential for Bitcoins and altcoins to shoot to the moon. I'm not looking at 10, 20 or even 100% gain, mainly because this man-made craziness can give 4 to 5 digits gains in terms of percentages. Or another way I'm looking at this, If I consider this investment as x ringgit, I'm prepared to lose the 1x so that I can maybe get 10x. Gambling? Only time will tell.

Of course, that's just me. Those reading this please don't follow me or this man-made craziness. I still have my 90% investments that is probably very safe. Everybody should have their own strategy and should heed the advices given by our experienced investors here! smile.gif

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The thing about this is that there are no insurance/protection against theft or hacks, no one will reimburse you if any funds are lost, unlike PIDM. So only put in what you're willing to lose for, because one day you might lose 100% of your funds and no one will be responsible but yourself.
So only put in what you're willing to lose for.
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post Mar 2 2017, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 2 2017, 09:40 PM)
True. Security is a concern especially when there is no cold storage available.

Bitcoin surged past RM5,500......  rclxub.gif

One thing I find very convenient is that if I want to buy altcoins, I just buy bitcoin at whatever price, transfer to poloniex, then buy altcoins. With this method, it doesn't matter what the price of bitcoin is and I don't have to worry about the exchanges not accepting MYR. Of course, there is the premium that have to be paid when buying bitcoins in exchanges.....
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Yes, poloniex is convenient if you're not looking to withdraw your altcoins. You're just holding those altcoin on poloniex's balance sheet, you have the right to the altcoins but ultimately they are holding it on your behalf. Counterparty risk there.

However, if you're looking to buy altcoins and hold it in your own wallet, ShapeShift would be your best bet!

Good luck on trading. Remember, don't get emotionally tied to the volatility, don't buy peak and sell at dip!
buy the dip and sell the peak smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2017, 05:01 PM

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someone create a v2 thread smile.gif

 

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